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Topic: PlayStation 3 Potentially Cracked After 4 Long Years
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 31766
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Actually I just realised that buying a PS3 would violate my commitment to never buy a Sony product again. So maybe I won't be able to get one anyway!@#

I haven't used PS3 media server so I am not sure how it differs. I do know though that people that have tried most other media things always seem to end up coming back to XBMC swearing it's the best
Dan
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Posts: 10458
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I have to admit Trog, I haven't used XBMC so I'm not across everything it does. What can it do over and above PS3 media server?
If only someone like groganus had answered that on the first page of replies!
E.T.
Posts: 2996
Location: Queensland

Hmm, ok. Well, for what I need, PS3 media server does everything. It streams my photos and every kind of movie file I have to the TV via the PS3 without a hitch. mkv files play no problem with full surround sound as well. I might be wrong, but xbmc seems to just be a pretty interface for doing the same things.

Edit: me wonders if I can get a 3rd "if only" post from Dan.

Looking at Grogs post, XBMC apparently is more of an open source media library rather than just a media server. That being the case, sure, I'd run it as well :)
weedy
Posts: 359
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

That Oz Mod Chips bloke is pretty nice he modded my wii for me. If i was gonna get one of these things it'd be through him.

I'd get one of these but id be worried about Sony banning me from PSN? Sure single player games are awesome but online is where its at.
tequila
Posts: 8173
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've got my 60GB PS3 being reballed at the moment ;(
I booted it up recently to be met with a YLOD
Sc00bs
Posts: 4873
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gaylord

hopefully mine doesnt do that anytime soon
gamer
Posts: 1083
Location:
Can i post the raw image of the usb stick? (you'll need a *nix machine with dd to write it to a usb stick) or will i get banzored/post limited to something even more retarded?
natslovR
Posts: 6844
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Is that all it is a normal USB stick. I just did a quick search and everything I can find still suggests there's more to it than just a specially formatted USB key.
groganus
Posts: 1606
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hmm, ok. Well, for what I need, PS3 media server does everything. It streams my photos and every kind of movie file I have to the TV via the PS3 without a hitch. mkv files play no problem with full surround sound as well. I might be wrong, but xbmc seems to just be a pretty interface for doing the same things.


You are pretty spot on, however what xbmc does over what ps3 media server is add extra functionality, eg, allow you to change subs on the file. Ps3 media server requires you to make changes at your pc. I assure you, XBMC is a fantastic piece of software that makes media playback so much easier and enjoyable.

PS3 media server purely streams media, the software "PS3 Media server" adds some functionality, mkv playback, subtitle support, and a few other codecs, but its all pc based functionality. XBMC is a media player on the ps3 that will read network storage and play media from there. (it can also play media locally). It allows you to access that functionality directly from the software on the ps3, and in most cases lets your make changes during playback. Imagine VLC on your pc with a pretty interface and media libary

I'd get one of these but id be worried about Sony banning me from PSN? Sure single player games are awesome but online is where its at.


Thats a very valid concern, this hack is probably detectable, however in my instance i would like one purely for homebrew and offline functionality, id be buying a 2nd ps3 just for this hack which is something id like to endorese to everyone, but i know is not cost effective to most. Wait it out, see how the hack development works out, this may just be a short lived hack.

Can i post the raw image of the usb stick? (you'll need a *nix machine with dd to write it to a usb stick) or will i get banzored/post limited to something even more retarded?


Probably not a good idea to post it, it has code owned by sony and breaches all kinds of copy write laws.
m3nt4l
Posts: 158
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Will be interesting to see how this pans out. I don't think I will use it on my ps3, that is in the lounge room and only I touch the disc's.
I have the Wii in the kids entertainment room which I soft modded so the kids can play the games without touching any disc's.
natslovR
Posts: 6853
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

We regret to inform you that today Sony Australia imposed an injunction against any company / person’s selling the PS Jailbreak devices, so it is with great regret that we have to inform you that we will not be buying or selling any PS Jailbreak devices. We have just issued a full refund to your card for the pre-order made.

We wish to apologize immensely for any inconvenience this may have caused, and hope that you can understand our position on this matter. Please note the refund we have issued can take approx 5-working days to show on your card.

Best Regards,


The injunction is in place until Tuesday 31-August at which time Sony has to convince the courts that the injunction should stick or the floodgates open on Wednesday 1st September.

PSX-Scene have a screenshot of the court document, which you can visit yourself here.

It seems that the Australian stores that were about to distribute these devices have to hand over any in their control to Sony's solicitors and that some of these will be examined by Sony including destructive testing, but that Sony will pay retail for them.

I thought it was also interesting that the order is in effect just by dropping it off at the address of the store and pasting a copy in to their website's contact form.
natslovR
Posts: 6860
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

The judge was busy with something else so the case has been delayed until this Friday 3rd September - the injunction remains in place until that time.
tequila
Posts: 8304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

just realised its the same company that is fixing my ps3
im none too worried though because its' completely balls right now so I have nothing to lose
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 31870
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

This reminds me of the time I said everything Sony ever did was evil
Midda
Posts: 5513
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This reminds me of the time I said everything Sony ever did was evil

I'm certainly not one to praise or defend Sony, but you can't really expect them to do nothing when a simple USB device is allowing people to rip/download PS3 games and play them on their console.
ravn0s
Posts: 10964
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive yet to see one ps3 game available to download
Dan
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Posts: 10490
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

In somewhat related news, that Adelaide guy lost the lawsuit against Sony for removing OtherOS http://www.news.com.au/technology/aussie-gamer-loses-court-fight-over-ps3-upgrade/story-e6frfro0-1225912943999
Bah
Posts: 3973
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

ive yet to see one ps3 game available to download
I have, and i am not even looking.
JakeG
Posts: 788
Location: Thailand
The only place on Samui you can get an xbox is from a proper shop in a shopping centre and they are cracked already with 5 games. Crazy!
groganus
Posts: 1625
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Im at work and thus can't be stuff finding another source... anyway news.com.au have an article about another ps3 hack (that works much the same) however it does not come with the functionality of ripping games, instead it is designed purely from a homebrew perspective.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/psgroove-makers-claims-their-device-can-hack-a-ps3-for-free-and-doesnt-promote-piracy/story-e6frfro0-1225913145033?area=technology

either way homebrew could be written for the device that would allow pirating games.
However due to the fact its advertised as being homebrew specific may allow for it to not get f***ed over in the courts. (probably still will though)

Also ive seen ps3 games for download on sites since the ps3's release. im yet to see an increase since the announcement of these hacks/exploits.
natslovR
Posts: 6863
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

They've named it PsGroove and you need a programmable USB device like the AT90USBKEY.

These previously sold in Australia for about AU$40, but everyone is out of stock and the one company that seems to be getting stock tomorrow now lists them at $110 + postage

There are similar supply problems across online retailers world wide

The restrictions in the homebrew mod that stopped the copying software from running can be removed with a patch that's available online.
groganus
Posts: 1626
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Teensy-2-0-USB-Dev-Board-AT90USBKey-PSGroove-Ps3-/110580949645?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf23628d

*cough*
Bah
Posts: 3974
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

may allow for it to not get f***ed over in the courts
Not much they can do in this case though, it'd be like trying to ban blank cd's.
thermite
Posts: 6324
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Someone tried to post this in another thread, I think, and I'm not sure I see it in this one?

http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/09/02/1530210/Open-Source-PS3-Jailbreak-Released

The PS3 jailbreak is available open source and you can DIY it.


Midda
Posts: 5525
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's about 4 posts about yours.
ravn0s
Posts: 10985
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so anyone gonna try it and let us know how it goes?
Midda
Posts: 5528
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I would if I had a Teensy++ USB stick lying around, which I don't. Can't even buy them now, they're all sold out.
Dan
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Posts: 10502
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

There's currently projects in the works to get the hack working from homebrew capable PSPs and jailbroken iPhones. Will be interesting to see what shakes out of those.

Main point of note is still that if you want homebrew on your PS3, don't be updating beyond the current firmware. Surely can't be too much longer before Sony rollout an update that plugs the hole.
natslovR
Posts: 6865
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

The hack seems to work by funking with the USB software in the PS3, so it seems (to this laymen) that it will be able to be messed with by other devices like android/ios/windows/linux and that it will also be able to be easily fixed by Sony.

My PS3 is currently blocked from the internet in anticipation of a forced patch (which Sony allowed themselves to do in recent changes to the T&C with a PS3 update)

Looks like Sony won the court case today. The court named the Chinese company that supplied the device, named their bank account, and have demanded that all stock be turned over to Sony's lawyers.

Thanks to my long standing and well known interest in programmable usb boards I think it's time to finally fork out for a AT90USBKey and start programming my own USB devices. I wish i'd bought one two years ago when I first got interested, not now that they are priced double.
Midda
Posts: 5531
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
One guy is already working on an Android port of PSGroove. Yay!

http://netzke.blogspot.com/
groganus
Posts: 1632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My PS3 is currently blocked from the internet in anticipation of a forced patch (which Sony allowed themselves to do in recent changes to the T&C with a PS3 update)


Can you explain further, ive been unable to sign into psn for a few days, yet when i run network setup on it all the tests come back fine.

Havent dont any research into the error yet, but when you said that i was wondering if im experiencing the same thing.
Bah
Posts: 3980
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Can you explain further,
He unplugged the ethernet cable.
natslovR
Posts: 6866
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Not quite as I still need my ps3 to talk to my media servers, instead I used the router/firewall function on my modem to block all traffic to/from my ps3's ip address so it can't see the Internet.
Dan
Special Text
Posts: 10505
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Might be easier to just specify manual network settings and just set the default gateway to a local IP that doens't exist?
natslovR
Posts: 6871
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Now you can install an application called PSFreedom on your Nokia N900 and use it to "JailBreak" your PS3.

It can't be too far away that other phones offer this facility too.. I'd read yesterday of Android development, but Kararto has delivered the N900 version sooner.
ravn0s
Posts: 10996
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well ive removed the ethernet cable just in case they do a forced update.
natslovR
Posts: 6886
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

The iPhone port of PSFreedom has been released. You only works on older iPhones and they must be running OpeniBoot.
Raven
Posts: 4648
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Allows you to play "backed up" games. Yeah, sure, no rolling eyes here.

Just say what you mean - it allows you to play pirated games.
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