285

yay for med school.

I'm 1400 ish. Ridiculously low considering my responsibilities. Totally over my job at the moment, but hopefully things will pick up. The advantage of my job is that I can make a lot of money when business is good. Business isn't good atm.

1667

I work too many hours :(

42

I'm surprised you've had so many replies because it f***s me a) what you're really asking to calculate and b) what the resulting number actually means.

Maybe I'll go read it again :/

personally, i'm waiting for the bmw or audi driving/paying full price for doctors moderators to weigh in

1395

~1280. The 65 hour weeks kill my 37.5hr based salary.

1667

I work too many hours :(

Me too. I work at night because I do a lot of work with Europe. Then stupidly I start work at 9am in the morning. I don't have to, but I do anyway.

I could work from home probably 80% of the time but I choose not to. Flossy has never understood it, but I like to separate work from home.

but I like to separate work from home.

Same, I don't wanna see one thing to do with work in my house. (nothing to do with not liking me job because I do)

Edit: Is flossy your cat or something?

2222.22 freeky

1832-ish.

So basically this is just a thread to either boast or whinge about your job? Seems like all it's doing is making people realise they work too much.

Is flossy your cat or something?

Yeah, my pussy. Very communicative.

475

That's in American, though American $ ain't what they used to be. Also don't anyone tell you getting a PhD increases your earning power.

cannot divide by zero

So basically this is just a thread to either boast or whinge about your job?

I would never have assumed it was anything different, then again, apparently I have a rather pessimistic outlook on everything in life. :P

So basically this is just a thread to either boast or whinge about your job?

I would never have assumed it was anything different, then again, apparently I have a rather pessimistic outlook on everything in life. :P

On the upside, hopefully this means you will stop whinging to me about how little you get paid.

sparrow or nerdberger, post figures or gtfo

I did, and even made several revisions. :P

So basically this is just a thread to either boast or whinge about your job?

I would never have assumed it was anything different, then again, apparently I have a rather pessimistic outlook on everything in life. :P

On the upside, hopefully this means you will stop whinging to me about how little you get paid.

I don't think I've ever whinged to you about my pay?.. Plus it works out the same after tax/hours worked as this little handy metric works out so maybe I should start :p. However I think I'm proving right now that my actual work done at work is decreasing rapidly this year.

you know your name

sparrow or nerdberger, post figures or gtfo

hardware, read before you post of gtfo.

~1850

I have a company 4wd, but I pay a lease on it... Everything (Fuel/Tolls/Rego/Maint) is paid and I get full personal use. It's $60 a week to lease... salary sacraficed... so I just ignored it.

last edited by Scooter at 15:22:04 18/Mar/10

I'm surprised you've had so many replies because it f***s me a) what you're really asking to calculate and b) what the resulting number actually means.

+1

mish/joanna, it aint that hard

if its too hard for you, just find out what your last group certificate said then divide the gross amount by how many hours you spend not at home per week because of work

So it's basically gross income minus hours away from home = figure

I thought that meant; (Fortnightly pay / 2) - 'Hours away from home for work per week' = Figure

~885

goddamn i need to graduate and get me a real job :(

ah s***, sorry scooter, gross Annual income DIVIDE hours away from home per week

d'oh

last edited by hardware at 15:17:40 18/Mar/10

1355
was expecting worse...

I think i'm completely missing something...?

What does the final figure actually mean?

I think i'm completely missing something...?

What does the final figure actually mean?

Some kind of measure of how much you are paid for your time.

Nothing, it's just a way to say that my Penis is bigger/smaller than yours.
It's a guy thing.

1333.3333333333333333333333333333

it is essentially a very rough index of how hard you work to earn your dollars relative to others.

the number itself has no absolute relevance, it is only meaningful when compared to others.

what taggs said
except substitute hard for smart in most cases

last edited by hardware at 15:24:07 18/Mar/10

Fairly sure smart is only part of the equation.

Edit: What I should have said is, you don't have to be smart to have a high salary, but it helps to be smart if you want to get there.

hard vs. smart depends on where you're coming from I think. If you have a smaller number, you're going to say you work harder for your money. If you have a larger number, you're going to say you work smarter for your money.

What if you live off the government and dont work any hours at all.

You work neither hard nor smart and you would have a fairly high number!

hard/smart: two sides of the same coin, just looking at it from different perspectives.

What if you live off the government and dont work any hours at all.

You work neither hard nor smart and you would have a fairly high number!

As somebody pointed out, you cannot divide by zero. :P

Do not include investment income in any way.

Well this screws me so I'll have to say;

0

My sister on the other hand;


17142

17142 can mean;

She earns a crap load for not much = winner winner chicken dinner
or
She gets the dole and needs to report in once a week to cash the cheque

652. FML

About 1650

178 a fortnight from centrelink earns me at 4628 so divide that by 28 hours i'm at uni in the week?


165.29

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491298336733624406566430860213949463952247371907021798609437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051320005681271452635608277857713427577896091736371787214684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235420199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099605187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469083026425223082533446850352619311881710100031378387528865875332083814206171776691473035982534904287554687311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989

i cant help but think yours would have been higher orbs if you didnt live in the stix

Your ratio is exactly the same as pi, amazing!

What are the chances of that?

3675 but I haven't included bonuses.

If I include a bonus based on the average from the past two years it would be 3925.

Edit: When I owned my own consultancy from 1994 to 2007 the most I earned in one year would have equated to over 7000. But I spent all that and lost even more since then. Oh well!


last edited by Some Fat Bastard at 20:16:02 18/Mar/10

about 2350 self employed. up from about 1300 working for a boss
hope i can maintain this level

well i get paid in pi and sometimes in e's

(2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757247093699959574966
967627724076630353547594571382178525166427427466391932003059
921817413596629043572900334295260595630738132328627943490763
233829880753195251019011573834187930702154089149934884167509
244761460668082264800168477411853742345442437107539077744992
069551702761838606261331384583000752044933826560297606737113
200709328709127443747047230696977209310141692836819025515108
657463772111252389784425056953696770785449969967946864454905
987931636889230098793127736178215424999229576351482208269895
193668033182528869398496465105820939239829488793320362509443
117301238197068416140397019837679320683282376464804295311802
328782509819455815301756717361332069811250996181881593041690
351598888519345807273866738589422879228499892086805825749279
610484198444363463244968487560233624827041978623209002160990
235304369941849146314093431738143640546253152096183690888707
016768396424378140592714563549061303107208510383750510115747
704171898610687396965521267154688957035035402123407849819334
321068170121005627880235193033224745015853904730419957777093
503660416997329725088687696640355570716226844716256079882651
787134195124665201030592123667719432527867539855894489697096
409754591856956380236370162112047742722836489613422516445078
182442352948636372141740238893441247963574370263755294448337
998016125492278509257782562092622648326277933386566481627725
164019105900491644998289315056604725802778631864155195653244
258698294695930801915298721172556347546396447910145904090586
298496791287406870504895858671747985466775757320568128845920
541334053922000113786300945560688166740016984205580403363795
376452030402432256613527836951177883863874439662532249850654
995886234281899707733276171783928034946501434558897071942586)

A lowly 1000 :(

1,153 for my day to day job
approx 6,000 when i'm doing my own shows with my company, unfortunately i don't do that much with my own company :(

I think I've worked it out - 1381.304388

0

I quit my job yesterday :D

i came to read teq ballin,

Left disappointed

Havent earnt a wage for a year, but have fat lewts in the bank....


When I get home later tonight I'll post my euro numbers, if you're lucky

4285

I live regional, so dont get the big $$ like you city folk..

1900ish

well i get paid in pi and sometimes in e's

And only work one hour a week. Tough gig. Hard to make ends meet on that income?

well i get paid in pi and sometimes in e's

i would like to get paid in e's

1186

17142 can mean;

She earns a crap load for not much = winner winner chicken dinner
or
She gets the dole and needs to report in once a week to cash the cheque

She works for AMEX, lets just state she has three people who are higher in the company than she is.

your sister's name is louise?

If she has only 3 people higher then her, then wouldn't she generally be expected to be on-call, 24/7 ?

Did you factor 24/7 365/year into your equasion?

Is she single?

If she has only 3 people higher then her, then wouldn't she generally be expected to be on-call, 24/7 ?

Did you factor 24/7 365/year into your equasion?

This is exactly why I couldn't give a figure, and why wage power gets messy for people in senior roles and small business.

Technically I'm 24/7/365...

and thats why i asked average hours worked
if you get paid $100k a year but spend every waking hour working, well you'll have a relatively low score

at home and watching tv regardless of on-call or not = not working
at work at surfin qgl = working
in the shower but devising work plans = not working and your own fault for not being able to separate real life with work
unless you're one of those weirdos that lives to work not works to live

last edited by hardware at 13:13:03 19/Mar/10

and thats why i asked average hours worked

Its not as simple as that, I can't answer that question - at random I'll not go to to toffice and 'work from home' taking vital tasks but otherwise watching TV / chasing the kids. Sometimes I'm at work all weekend. Sometimes I do 8-6, sometimes its 11-4.

Sometimes I'm having a bad 'M.S. week' and don't show up at all for several days, and only take vital problems from home.

I have no idea what quantity of work that is.

I don't even know what my real remuneration is because I'm not paid by the hour, and the trust is dispensed to myself, my wife and the kids. Its messy and wild but it pays the bills, and nobody in the family has a boss.

at work at surfin qgl = working
in the shower but devising work plans = not working and your own fault for not being able to separate real life with work

That's ridiculous and arbitrary. Bludging on the boss' time counts, but the boss taking your time outside work doesn't? Get the f*** out.

1500 Here.

2000. I thought I had a pretty sweet deal working from home 30 hours a week full time but people are beating me!

1111.11 working for the man. (regular income)
3517 when contracting :). (odd jobs)

in the shower but devising work plans = not working and your own fault for not being able to separate real life with work

I'm a programmer and tend not to do well without inspiration and well-thought out approaches. Ideas usually hit me at times such as while walking or in the shower, which is the only way I can do my job a lot of the time. Tis not that I want to be thinking about work while trying to sleep, but it's often the only way I can get things done... I wouldn't expect that to be uncommon among programmers, it's just the way I feel creativity works - unless of course you're just one of those bastards who codes everything by continuously growing inefficient chunks of code until the person who has to come work on it next has to just start again.

Also, I'm shank you in the f*** for breaking the h-scroll orbs.

ok i can see what you're saying hoggy
that is very mish mash

ok i can see what you're saying hoggy
that is very mish mash

Hahah it's all over the place like a mad woman's s***!

But I reckon I'm ahead. Getting sick was the catalyst that changed a lot of things for me, it provided the motivation to do things, take risks and set up life the way I wanted it.

My net happiness NOW compared to before I got M.S. is 100% up, there is no doubt about it. I have a lot more face time with the kids, my wife doesn't have to work at all, and if I look at the clock at 7am and decide that today is a 10am start I just f***ing do it.

In a few year's time I'm gonna write a book about how my disease disaster was the best thing that ever happened to me :)

i'm rly glad to hear hoggy
the work/life balance is supreme and a lot of people don't ever put their minds to trying to better it, they accept that their life is just locking out life for work.

Tis my goal Hogfather, have a few semi-directionless ideas I'm pursuing at the moment. :)

2690... alot of travelling.. 1.5 hours each way

the work/life balance is supreme and a lot of people don't ever put their minds to trying to better it, they accept that their life is just locking out life for work.

f*** yer

one of the best things about my job is that its rarely interfers with my personal life, which is what im about.

i love working, but i love coming home even more, seeing my family, playing my sport, getting wasted with my mates

im on call 24/7 365, but that is taken care of appropriately for what they pay me

that's the way spook
i know i could earn more money than i do
but i'd have to work my friggin arse off and root up my real life
bugger that for a joke

my ideal goal is to one day work gentleman's hours
10-2 with an hour or two for lunch

not including investments :(

without invest its 1600 but if i get a motorbike here it will be 1777.7

with investments its pushing 10k

~885 goddamn i need to graduate and get me a real job :(

i still remember you arguing so hard against my recession/depression prediction (i was saying it a good 2 years or more before it became mainstream news)- I would suggest if you want to make money don’t work in commerce or finance.. or just get used to not making any money in commerce or finance.. lolz

Also, I'm shank you in the f*** for breaking the h-scroll orbs.

hehehe, I thought I might screw someone over with that :D

Superform, were I to have a mobile that supports it - where would your avatar take me?

just my site :)

your sister's name is louise?

No names no pack drills

If she has only 3 people higher then her, then wouldn't she generally be expected to be on-call, 24/7 ?

Did you factor 24/7 365/year into your equasion?

I only included the 70 office hours per week. Whilst people at that level may well be available they have staff they delegate to. There is a big difference between small business and large multinational corporations.

Is she single?

No

Approximately 2305.

This comparison you concocted is totally void given you asked people to conform to "averages" such as annual leave.
When persons receive more than your standard 4 weeks with leave loading you're asking them to ignore a few thousand dollars in your comparison, same with salary sacrificing if they are career specific, as well as super contribution benefits.

All of these can add up to tens of thousands of dollars in the hand differences!

finance ftw (i hope)

i still remember you arguing so hard against my recession/depression prediction (i was saying it a good 2 years or more before it became mainstream news)- I would suggest if you want to make money don’t work in commerce or finance.. or just get used to not making any money in commerce or finance.. lolz

oh you mean the thread where i asked you to post your true return on equities over the years? and you don't... probably because you don't calculate that number because it would be too ego-deflationary? go google something called confirmation bias, then have a good hard think about what it means.

you can post on qgl as much as you want about how you're the greatest investor the world's ever seen since warren buffet, that's your prerogative. trying so hard to convince random strangers of that seems pretty pathetic to me but whatever floats your boat dude :)

and yeah, finance is known for paying really, really poorly, right? keep em coming, bro.

anything under 100k/year is for peasants

how else can you afford your 3k/day lawyer?

lulz

anything under 100k/year is for peasants

how else can you afford your 3k/day lawyer?

on or off the books?

deflect more...

i mean in the thread where i called the meltdown and you said na that wont happen

my point is if you couldnt see there was a global financial crisis coming then maybe finance isnt your thing

flipping burgers might be more your thing

Oh right, the thread where you predicted the GFC? i didn't realise that actually happened... would you mind linking that? here's a start: http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/search.php?keywords=&author=superform®ion=both&posted=0&direction=newer&sort=score&pagesize=100

if a copy/paste of that doesn't work just load up the forums from the AG interface, jump into the search function, tap your name into the 'search for author' field and have at thee.

let's assume for the sake of your pedantic argument that the onset of the GFC was 14/15 Sep 08 when Lehman Bros announced bankruptcy - a commonly accepted starting point of the GFC.

so back to what i linked above? that's every thread you've ever posted on qgl, if you could link the relevant thread then that would be just super. because i've just skimmed through your posts prior to Sep 08 and can't find what in the f*** you're talking about. happy to stand corrected though.

so if you could just link this thread where you supposedly argued with me that there would be a GFC and i argued that there wouldn't be, that would just make my day.

my point is if you couldnt see there was a global financial crisis coming then maybe finance isnt your thing

flipping burgers might be more your thing

oh right, because the one thing about the GFC that sticks out in everyone's minds is just how predictable it was, right? if you're seriously suggesting that anyone who couldn't predict the GFC (as you claim you did) won't make any money in finance, ever, then you're even stupider than your posts belie - if that were the case 75%+ of wall street, london and the rest of financial markets across the globe would be unemployed. this is another case of you spouting absolute bulls*** - and if your trends in threads past are anything to go by you probably won't even reply to this post.

hahaha its replies like this that make me lol

you belittle me for making a predictions.. make none of your own and then come back with more belittling statements to cover up the fact that you dont know what your talking about

i cant find the thread so meh

oh right, because the one thing about the GFC that sticks out in everyone's minds is just how predictable it was, right? if you're seriously suggesting that anyone who couldn't predict the GFC (as you claim you did) won't make any money in finance, ever, then you're even stupider than your posts belie - if that were the case 75%+ of wall street, london and the rest of financial markets across the globe would be unemployed. this is another case of you spouting absolute bulls*** - and if your trends in threads past are anything to go by you probably won't even reply to this post.

Actually, the GFC was quite predictable it's just that individually we can't do anything about it. Sub-prime loans were the alarm bell for me, got out of hedge funds and protected my portfolio in solid blue chips. Been watching China/India for years and seeing who supplies them = profit. Of course it's not big money but it keeps me in PCs and smokes.

2981 but i also get 12 weeks paid leave. Teaching in a rural location has its benefits.

you belittle me for making a predictions.. make none of your own and then come back with more belittling statements to cover up the fact that you dont know what your talking about

i cant find the thread so meh

haha, k dude. i'll have to take your word on it then ;)

So it's basically gross annual income divide your hours away from home = figure

Based on the above statement, most weeks working from home = 16000

Average week this year containing chaos requiring me to go on-site = approx 5333.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Based on true work hours = 1333.33333333333333333333333333333

These figures dramatically change when the weather improves and I take some time off to go fishing.

I get wage power envy reading this thread

Suggesting finance might not be taggs' thing suggests you've never read a taggs post before because they seem pretty on the money to me.

BAM! Pun! "On the money", get it!?

nahh, pinky, the secret to finance is obviously making 50/50 predictions without giving any reasoning or justifcation whatsoever, let alone anything based on actual economic theory.

My wage can beat your dads wage no problems...

I have a giant cock!

i think this thread and the car thread are huge lolz

I have a giant cock!

No way man! My cock is much bigger!