guy lives on a farm where he grows his own food and stuff. what do you expect?

oh and stop hitting on chub he is already taken.

185cm (6ft1 ish) and ~70kg (move between 68-70kg normally) and i'm generally admonished by most people for being 'too skinny'. heaviest i've been is 79kg after i had a back injury, didn't do any exercise for yonks and drank like it was my job. as soon as i started back into sport the weight fell back off. i've started eating better in the last few years, but still don't have the healthiest diet.

chub, i'm surprised a strong wind doesn't simply blow you over at that weight, i can't imagine being 10kg lighter at my height, let alone an inch taller.

according to that website posted earlier (5x5 or whatever) I should be 85kg to not look skinny...think that might be a bridge too far, but wouldn't mind being around 80kg with greater strength.

i've just busted my ankle up again, so i will have to modify these plans somewhat, but i had planned on getting into the gym/working to put on a bit of muscle - i've tried before and it's been fruitless but i was going to be more committed and change up my diet at the same time as increasing the weights workload. guess i'll wait to see what the recovery time on the ankle is first.

Consistency, plz.

6'2" and 128lbs!

Happy?

Skydiving has f***ed up my metric, wingloadings on canopies is done in pounds, speed is measured in mph and height is feet.

It's weird as when a european person visits, they use metric for skydiving... "ok we'll exit at 3200 meters, breakoff at 1200m" and even Australians are like "wtf :S what height is that".last edited by CHUB at 13:19:53 18/Mar/10

How are you that height and weight? I about the same, but only 5"10, and most people say I'm too skinny (I'm not).

2 miles adn 3/4 of a mile. What do I win?

I get 'too skinny' all the time. It s***s my missus, but I don't even care and/or notice. On occassion I answer back (to close friends), "Am I too skinny or are you just a fat f***? That's the question."

2 miles adn 3/4 of a mile. What do I win?

I have no idea what you're trying to say

I get 'too skinny' all the time. It s***s my missus, but I don't even care and/or notice. On occassion I answer back (to close friends), "Am I too skinny or are you just a fat f***? That's the question."

I don't care that people call me too skinny (haven't for ages anyway) - I was merely pointing out that 6"2 and 58kg seems insanely...odd.

It's funny though that often the people calling you skinny (I've copped some in the last few weeks actually, despite not being text book "skinny") are usually unfit, big or the have noticed the change in your weight (if you've lost a lot of weight) and can't come to terms with the fact that you're slim and feeling better about yourself than they are.

It's kind of annoying cause I'm actually not skinny. I'm slim and there's areas of fat which I can't wait to ditch. As well, I have muscle (I do push ups, crunches, leg presses etc) but under looser clothes you never see that.

Smeh

Yeah I think the more skinny people eat the more they s*** and not much gets stored as fat. (I say this from experience) Since I turned 35 though I noticed I can get fat if I eat big :)

+1 on the "skinny people don't eat as much as they think" isn't always true.
Times when I've made big efforts to gain weight, including supplements, 6meals + snacks in between etc and yeah, I just found myself taking 3 s***s a day every day. I also fidget like a motherf***er.

I used to be like that when i was your age, now im 30 and believe me it does all go somewhere... your metabolism slows down and it all goes into a gigantic beer gut ;)

chub eat some taro, get it from the markets. will make u big and strong

There's a documentary by the BBC called Why Are Thin People Not Fat. It is pretty cool. I think they double the calorie intake, but aren't allowed to do any physical activity for 4 weeks or something.

Thanks for that, watching now.

I can't believe I'm going to say this but yeah, what Billy Hardball said.

Also...

From memory, however, the brain uses ~80% of the glucose you ingest.

I was told 75% of energy intake is used by the brain, so what you said sounds about right.

I'm almost EXACTLY following the experience of my father, which is interesting, because he was a rake but at 50yo he chubbed out a bit (90+ kg) without changing his lifestyle. Now he has to diet and watch his weight a bit, which he's good at.

A bit like me in the sense I was always about 75kg until I hit about 46 years old a few years back. Now I sit around the 83 to 85kg mark but as you can see from recent photos I'm still not fat, I'm not fit though. I've never been skinny but I've never been fat either.

your metabolism slows down and it all goes into a gigantic beer gut ;)

your metabolism slows down and it all goes into a gigantic beer gut ;)

true that. starting to happen at 33 years old. hard to lose the stomach fat.
look like e.t when driving/sitting slouched.

How are you that height and weight? I about the same, but only 5"10, and most people say I'm too skinny (I'm not).

I don't look very skinny IMO, my torso looks normal for my size but my limbs (especially arms) are skinny as f***... little girl wrists (can touch my thumb+finger around them without touching the wrist at all :S I dunno, can you do that?).

I sometimes look at my mates and think we're very similar size and I'm shocked to find out they're 70-75kg.

nope but i can get it around there just barely

my mum was worried i was doing drugs when I was 110kg, telling me I was far too skinny and it wasn't healthy - I was about 19 though and probably doing lots of drugs

Brain energy usage

In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by the body

Also states the usage is rather consistent.
Please note PNAS world's 2nd most revered journals in Science.

Also here

Suggesting 40% of weight-gain factors are genetic.

There are also thoughts that sleep deprivation may be part of the problem here

Also Hogfather, you may have misinterpreted what I said or I explained it wrong - once you gain the weight, it's very easy to stay UP at that weight, much harder to go DOWN in weight (fat numbers remain the same) linky

Also Hogfather, you may have misinterpreted what I said or I explained it wrong - once you gain the weight, it's very easy to stay UP at that weight, much harder to go DOWN in weight (fat numbers remain the same) linky

You said that the number of cells changes as you gain or lose weight. Research demonstrates otherwise.

I made no statement about how hard or easy it is to stay at any weight.

I was told 75% of energy intake is used by the brain, so what you said sounds about right.

I didn't say ~75% of energy intake is used by the brain, I said ~75% of glucose intake is used by the brain.

In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by the body

Is that really how it works?? Oxygen requirement is equivalent to calorie requirement? Or is that just another one of those neuroscience generalisations... A quick scan of the citations doesn't reveal any reference to how many calories the brain is burning, so, in my humble opinion, the jury is still out.

^ Fair enough. Glucose then.

Please note PNAS world's 2nd most revered journals in Science.

Ah, no. It's very good and I just submitted a manuscript to it so I really hope it gets in, but it's not even close to #2. The link you have gave number of citations which is not a good measure because it doesn't take into account the number of articles published. The reason JBC is top for citations is because it publishes a huge number of articles. So when you look at citations/article or impact factor JBC (5.52*) comes in much lower than New Engl J Med (50+), Nature (31+) ,Cell (31+), Science (28+), Other Nature journals (15-30), over 100 other journals (many of them specific to a field, and then PNAS (9.38).

* This ranks the most cited journal at #323 for impact factor, which is the generally accepted measure of standing.

The brain burns something like 20-30W of energy on average which is as mentioned, about 20-25%. At rest, people burn roughly 80-100W of energy to maintain temperature. Without doing anything all day, you'll use roughly 5,500 - 7,000kJ of energy just maintaining bodily functions depending on size and everything else.

So when you do a 300 Calorie jog, you're not adding a great deal to your daily usage but it makes a difference in the long run. Most people probably burn between 8,500 and 10,000kJ on a normal day without having done any gym or cardio sessions.

Swimmers like Michael Phelps apparently eat close to 6000 Cal a day, which is about three times what most people need. He must be doing a f@ckload of training.

Is that really how it works?? Oxygen requirement is equivalent to calorie requirement? Or is that just another one of those neuroscience generalisations... A quick scan of the citations doesn't reveal any reference to how many calories the brain is burning, so, in my humble opinion, the jury is still out.

All I know about that is oxygen is required for aerobic respiration (obviously) which is our dominant method of turning anything into energy we can use, and the brain can only take and use very specific substrates (i.e. mostly only simple sugars while other tissues can use fat and protein too - although all of this is very hazy in my memory so I'd be happy to be proven wrong). If that's true then using 75-80% of glucose and 20% of total energy/oxygen use could be the same thing.

CHUB has worms (or is lying about food intake)

edit: otherwise you are the very rare exception to the rule (i.e. medical anomaly), eat enough and you *will* put on weight

Yeah I think the more skinny people eat the more they s*** and not much gets stored as fat. (I say this from experience) Since I turned 35 though I noticed I can get fat if I eat big :)

lol i eat heaps but i cant go to the toilet probably go twice a week, but i do eat really healthy. I find i can only go to the toilet alot more if drink protein shakes..


http://www.fitday.com/

Go to this site its free and you put in what you eat on that day and it calculates your calaries and protien fats and carbs etc. you also add in your exercise activity and will tell you if you are eating enough or not enough

you s*** twice a week!?
christ they must be epic

you s*** twice a week!?
christ they must be epic

Either that or you live on C-rats

well, since we're on the subject
I crap maybe twice a day, sometimes 3 times

the morning one is clockwork, as soon as I wake up I make a B-line for the loo, the afternoon one is always within a few hours after lunch

This thread is getting progressively more disguting.

the secret to taking a really good dump is to squat.
If ur not squatting ur doing it wrong.

Holy s***, FaceMan!

No pun intended.

Once a Day for me. 4:10, like clockwork.

Thanks for sharing.

I miss smoking instead of eating. I was nice and skinny

you're getting back there though matey!

Swimmers like Michael Phelps apparently eat close to 6000 Cal a day, which is about three times what most people need. He must be doing a f@ckload of training.

or just bonging on......


weight loss is diferent for everyone. there is no such thing as one way to lose weight for all......if your overweight, maybe you need to know your body better.
and stop eating all the cakes.

the secret to taking a really good dump is to squat.
If ur not squatting ur doing it wrong.

Yeah, this is actually true. Japan has a lot of toilets around the place that are look kind of like a urinal in the ground. You squat over them and do your business. I was hoping to avoid using them, until we were at the Harajuku markets, I really needed to take a s***, and the only toilet available was one of these squat-s***ters. I did it, and I was amazed. It was amazing how fast I was able to get in there, drop a few, then get out. Not that it's particularly difficult to take a s*** normally, but squatting is definitely a more efficient way to do it.

there is no such thing as one way to lose weight for all......

im pretty sure my mate tony disagrees with this

Yeah, this is actually true. Japan has a lot of toilets around the place that are look kind of like a urinal in the ground. You squat over them and do your business. I was hoping to avoid using them, until we were at the Harajuku markets, I really needed to take a s***, and the only toilet available was one of these squat-s***ters. I did it, and I was amazed. It was amazing how fast I was able to get in there, drop a few, then get out. Not that it's particularly difficult to take a s*** normally, but squatting is definitely a more efficient way to do it.

The health benefits of squatting toilets are pretty much indisputable, humans are meant to squat when they chuck a s***.

I don't really see a change happening in western society though.

weight loss is diferent for everyone. there is no such thing as one way to lose weight for all.....

I heard there was a revolutionary new method, scientifically proven, reported in several highly recognised medical journals...

...stop putting food in your mouth.

I'm pretty sure there are people who can live on sunlight and oxygen Pinky. I read about it on the internet once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
Breatharianism

Scientific theories about nutrition and common sense both indicate that a person who follows this practice even in the short term would die of starvation or dehydration. Nutritionists say that carbohydrates, fats, and proteins are the body's only sources of energy.[34][35][36] Even when the body is fasting, it burns carbohydrates, fats, and proteins for energy, and they come from the body's own reserves. A breatharian would first burn glycogen (a carbohydrate) and then body fat and muscle (a source of protein).[37]

Breatharians have seldom submitted themselves to medical testing, and currently there is no evidence to support their claims. In a handful of documented cases, individuals attempting breatharian fasting have died

soooooooooo, yeah nah?
sounds like it only works if you believe in magic.
and im guessing a breatharian wouldnt live a highly active lifestyle.
they should call themselves anorexists perhaps.

lol i eat heaps but i cant go to the toilet probably go twice a week

Yeah, same here! Probably a bit more often than twice a week, but definitely not once a day or multiple times a day, probably only once every couple of days. Maybe it has something to do with me having super efficient fat guy bacteria in my gut that absorbs absolutely everything out of the food I eat so theres not much waste? f*** my fat guy bacteria, they need some kind of bacteria transplant operation so I can get some of that skinny guy bacteria in me.

I go once a day. Granted I eat a decent amount of fibre. You're not really meant to wait three days to go.

i go every day coz im not a freak

if you dont go everyday, go to your doctor and tell him "im a freak with bowel problems"

I miss smoking instead of eating. I was nice and skinny

i have seen kat.zip

so unless you were smoking at age 9 you were never skinny

3 days.......f***
you must feel like so blocked and bloated.
i go 4/5 hours after i eat..........
wakes me early sometimes.....
oh yeah, i sleep f*** all, thats probably got heaps to do with the skinnies.
get up, do a s***, then do s*** ftw !!!!!!!

You guys are going to have bowel cancer :S no joke.

I go twice a day, like clockwork... then again I eat 7-8 pieces of fruit daily.

You guys are going to have bowel cancer :S no joke.

Eat All Bran for a week and no joke, they'll have lost their cancer quick smart. Gets the system churning.

if you aren't going once a day you don't have enough fibre in your diet. eat more grains (unprocessed best), fruits and leafy veges.

Drink more water too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
Breatharianism

I'm not surprised these kind of cults are rare. Trying to spread your beliefs and convert others while avoiding death is probably tough.

Drink more water too.

+1

I drink about 3 litres of water a day, for breakfast either eat something like all bran, or some toast made out of that Lawsons wholegrain bread. For lunch, usually something like a ham sandwhich, once again with the wholegrain bread, with lots of lettuce. And for dinner usually a steak or a piece of grilled chicken or an omlette with a side of salad. So its not like I eat unhealthy, or am lacking fibre, and its not like I get bloated or drop a 5kg s***, its all relatively normal when the time comes, its just the time only comes every second day or so.

Where's the fruit Khel?

You must get sick all the time without fruit.

Well yeah, I usually have an apple or some dried apricots or something mid morning and mid afternoon, but I don't really consider that a meal. But yeah, I guess I don't eat heaps and heaps of fruit.

You must get sick all the time without fruit.

Why is that?

i wnna be more like chub and less like me

Yeah, for me it's at least once a day, sometimes as frequently as three. I never used to s*** that frequently, but since I've started a regular habit of going to the gym 4 days a week, I seem to be doing a lot more toilet trips. It's fine though, I generally get it all done at work, where I'm paid to be doing it.

pro poopers itt

Haven't pooped since thursday, will keep you guys posted.

I wake up in the morning, drink a coffee (with lots of milk) then go within 30mins


I'm lactose intolerant though :/


my wife's on my back about eating cereal each morning, though she is LI too.. and just can't get with the logic. We're over 30 now - no more free rides from our bodies eh. What we're putting in is sweating/breathing/pooping out.


I quit smoking for a few weeks earlier this year - I understand why women use so many products that are scented now.

I exercise around 4 to 5 hours a week . I can't imagine going back to doing nothing. I may not be skinny or super fit but I am getting there. Muscles are forming and I feel overall better. skinny doesn't mean healthy and muscles don't always mean strength

koopz get lactose free milk dude. I'm lactose intolerant as well and that milk is awesome. It's called Zymil btw. Only comes in 1 litres carton no 2 litres etc.

It ridiculously sweet. However if it is your only option it's a good one. The sugar has already been broken down for you.

got a mate who's put on like 10kg or more from eating high calorie meals every day. Gone from nothing to become pretty shredded for his size..

Just eat like phelps or that fat bitch in the usa.. 12,000calories plus a day.. That'll put some meat on ya.

Yea Zymil's awesome, it's the only milk that doesn't make me sick. Even soy milk makes me feel like s***

It ridiculously sweet. However if it is your only option it's a good one. The sugar has already been broken down for you.

Personally I don't find it ridiculously sweet, certainly sweeter than normal milk. And I think you mean lactose's been broken down not sugar :)

You must get sick all the time without fruit.

Why is that?

Hmm, it's a good point. They don't tell you to eat the food pyramid for no reason.

I dunno all the reasons, but one good reason is that there are a group of amino acids that your body can't make - non-essential amino acids. Don't ask me why they are called 'non-essential', I didn't name them. Since you can't make them, you have to consume them. Some fruit like strawberries contain high levels of these.

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein (among other things). So yeah, on a scale of 1 to 'damn important' they are at the damn important end.