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Topic: QGL BMX/4WD/LPG people
maxe
Posts: 13124
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm thinking of buying a bike just to zip around the neighbourhood now and then, maybe go down to the shops and get some garlic bread or whatever

I wouldnt mind being able to do some monos and s*** as well, so I was thinking about a BMX.

Was wondering:

1. Can you get a BMX that has gears
2. Can you get a BMX with one of those giant comfy seats
3. Can you get a BMX that will be comfy for some guy whos 6'7
4. Where can I buy this magical bike for cheaps

As a reward for your attention, heres a photo of myself:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x56/maxe1/boxsocial/IMG_3893.jpg
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protit
Posts: 9351
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
don't lie you want a bmx to be like nicole kidman.
mission
Posts: 3911
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
1. Can you get a BMX that has gears - that's a mountain bike
2. Can you get a BMX with one of those giant comfy seats - you mean with the sissy bar at the back? I'm sure you could fit one.
3. Can you get a BMX that will be comfy for some guy whos 6'7 - Maybe
4. Where can I buy this magical bike for cheaps - Bike shop

I reckon a mountain bike would be the ticket, especially if you want gears.

You can go way faster than a BMX.
heavy_rocker
Posts: 29
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thankyou to the random (pave?) in background, because every photo needs guns. Maxe does not cut it
maxe
Posts: 13125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
guns are for retards, i use the crushing force of my intellect to solve problems


I dont want a bike so I can get places fast, I want one so I can get places without walking, and so I can do monos
reso
I can't read
Posts: 4488
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's pretty easy popping monos on a mountain bike in first gear or whatever.
shad
Posts: 2347
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Mountain bikes just don't give the gansta street cred that riding low in a BMX will give.
Raven
Posts: 2931
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
1. Can you get a BMX that has gears
2. Can you get a BMX with one of those giant comfy seats
3. Can you get a BMX that will be comfy for some guy whos 6'7
4. Where can I buy this magical bike for cheaps


Answers:
1. If it had gears it wouldn't be a BMX, but freeride bikes are the closest you'll come. STP-geometry bikes are basically a BMX-ish sized frame, but designed for 26" wheels and will usually have vertical dropouts and everything else required for running them in a 1x9 configuration.

2. You can put whatever saddle you want on a bike. But remember, saddle comfort is not about padding, it's about shape. A saddle which fits you properly, even if made of carbon fibre, will be way more comforable than any saddle with tons of padding which doesn't fit you properly. Haven't you noticed that Formula 1 seats are made of carbon fibre and moulded to a drivers body?

3. Haha, oh dear, a 6'7 guy on a 20" bike? uhm... I can't say, but you might want to look at an STP/Freeride bike.

4. ...

Edit: Start off by looking at something like a Kona Shred ( http://www.konaworld.com/09_shred_en.cfm ) or Giant STP 2 ( http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/mountain/2175/31851/ )
However, I wouldn't recommend either of these due to their componentry - I'd be recommending something with Saint gear on it.

last edited by Raven at 14:54:43 16/Aug/08
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3456
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hi there maxe

I'm a bmx rider, and i solely believe BMX should only mean a 20" ungeared bike.

What you're describing is like asking for a motorbike with four wheels and a roof, ie a car. Your best bet is a nice GT mountain bike, they're pretty fun.

The closest thing you'll get in the BMX category is a BMX 'cruiser' (as shown below) and the main difference is a slightly larger frame to accommodate bigger wheels and tall people who still want to fit on a BMX
http://www.leelikesbikes.com/wp-content/010508gtcruiser.jpg
Raven
Posts: 2933
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
FWIW, I'm considering taking up BMX (24"), but between XCE, XCC nationals and Road Crits, it's hard to fit in yet another discipline. But 24" BMX are race bikes, not stunt bikes, and there's a big difference. What you seem to be wanting isn't a race bike. Seriously, have a look at a freeride or trials bike.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3457
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is the same as what i ride, except mine's red with a few parts changed (pedals, sprocket, cranks, seat etc)
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/dscn4830_lg.jpg
Raven
Posts: 2936
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
f#%&*$, "sprocket". It's called a freewheel ffs.

'sif flat pedals.
DeePer
Posts: 3180
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Get a Giant STP

(street-trail-park mountain bike)

It's a mountain bike with a frame that is a bit BMXish

You can google for pics cause I'm lazy, there's a few different models
Fireblood
Posts: 8481
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Check out ebay, a mate has a shop on ebay and sells heaps of BMX stuff, i can ask him if he does bikes etc if you want? Ill be catching up with him tonight.
Jim
Posts: 8339
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sprocket is perfectly appropriate, being that it has teeth and engages a chain
shad
Posts: 2348
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I didn't know that Jim, I always called it a freewheel but now I will call it a sprocket.
Raven
Posts: 2938
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Speaking of STPs - Lincoln Verass (2006-2007 Victorian Elite Mens downhill State champion) occasionally turns up to Westgate on one throughout the summer months, the guy is absolutely magic to watch piloting it through the singletrack. He has to ride C grade (though we forced him up into B because he was just smashing C grade) because at 1x9 (32/11-32) he can't get top speed on the straights, but I swear the guy is way quicker on that thing than any of the A graders through the singletrack.

As for the terminology - It's a cog if it's part of a cassette or standalone with teeth where the freehub spins. It's a freewheel if it contains the mechanism allowing it to freely backpedal, but engage when pedaled normally.
koopz
Posts: 7175
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
1. Can you get a BMX that has gears


they're called 'childs mountain bikes... reinforce the frame and add better seat/tires/bars/etc

2. Can you get a BMX with one of those giant comfy seats


see Q 1

3. Can you get a BMX that will be comfy for some guy whos 6'7


no - you're looking at a mountain bike

4. Where can I buy this magical bike for cheaps


buy all the parts needed 2nd hand and build it yourself
defcon
Posts: 1162
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i think as people have stated you'd probably be looking at an stp, bmx's for big guys, its uncomfortable. I got a avanti derelikt for my ht, people say those frames crack but i dont ride it enough to care :D, i'd also recommend a norco manik my bro has one and they're a nice ride. ps I just finished building up my new dh rig yesterday, went for a ride today <3<3 so hot.
defcon
Posts: 1163
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
also checkout www.farkin.net heaps of cheap 2nd hand gear there.
koopz
Posts: 7180
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
seriously Maxe - get some inline skates dude...


more groove for your buck...
rubba-chikin
Posts: 6066
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f#%&*$, "sprocket". It's called a freewheel ffs.


erm... what do you call the large front one then?

freewheel is the one on the back that spins freely when you are coasting... hence the name

If you want an oversize BMX look at some 24" racer style bikes, larger frame and larger wheels for those lanky c***s.
Raven
Posts: 2939
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
erm... what do you call the large front one then?

Chainring.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3459
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sprocket and chainring/chainwheel are the normally used terms. bmx riders usually refer to them as sprockets. i've got a 25 toother on mine, nice and small.
SquarkyD
Posts: 5989
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sounds to me more like you want a chopper :p
heavy_rocker
Posts: 30
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
noo.. get out of the chopper
maxe
Posts: 13126
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well this thread has been hella useful

thanks QGL

broest bunch of bros that ever broed
rubba-chikin
Posts: 6067
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I always called the front one either a sprocket or disc.

Most were chunky solid 44 tooth back in my BMXing days, so they weren't rings... apart from the lightweight weaker race ones that bent super easy if you cased on some coping.

I still have my last BMX which has a mini 25 toother :)

d[o_0]b
Posts: 2337
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
seriously Maxe - get some inline skates dude...


more groove for your buck...


the hardest thing about this suggestion would be telling your parents you're gay.
Agent 99
Posts: 1646
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^ lol
protit
Posts: 9366
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you know what comes before bmx??

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2259599635_f6e4e7e726_o.jpg

aw yeah

last edited by protit at 15:56:51 18/Aug/08
Jim
Posts: 8344
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
shame we don't get the twin turbo V8 here :(
Jim
Posts: 8350
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/x6/x6/2007/allfacts/engine/datasheet.html eu choices, we only get the 35i and 35d here

I love the twin turbo diesel but it'd still be nice to have the choice to buy a premium unleaded guzzler

or the choice not to
paveway
Posts: 8135
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
those aren't my guns, mine are bigger
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3466
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
580nm from 1750rpm
yes please
Jim
Posts: 8351
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
same engine as mine in slightly more aggressive tune
you know you love diesel mr hardware

X6 tune on the left, mine on the right:
http://www.bmw.com.au/scripts/main.asp?PageID=11768&PID=16
protit
Posts: 9373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i am taking one for a test drive thurs. will give a review.
stinky
Posts: 2713
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wow, I bet you could drive the kids to soccer real fast in that thing.
Jim
Posts: 8352
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I got it up mitsi hill easier than your suby stinky*


*may or may not be a complete lie
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
not at $1.80/ltr i don't
also
http://www.nolancompany.com/Main/Pictures/Photos-for-web-091603/Lg-PD-1-derail-flag.jpg

last edited by Mr Hardware at 13:55:35 19/Aug/08
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14446
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
why is it called mitsu hill anyway?

cause i've never seen a mitsubishi get up it, plus i think i'd be packing bricks to try it in mine.
Jim
Posts: 8353
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah you do love it go awwwn
how could you not

dunno where you see diesel for $1.80 but they're doing it wrong


$1.58 for bp diesel near my house, and 70 litres gets me over 900k's even while enjoying regular right boot and the beautiful burbly roar of german engineering - not to mention with vastly more torque and power than lpg, less carbon and particle emissions per km than your car and without voiding my warranty

win!
Jim
Posts: 8354
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought you went up there the other weekend nf
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14447
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
only did the top bit where it meets the tower of terror run, and i came in from the other way.

i couldn't climb a hill like with the fuel pump the way it was.
Jim
Posts: 8355
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ah ok
bring on the efi
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3469
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah but that's $12/100klms
where i'm doing $8/100klms
Red
Posts: 175
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
and having 8/100ths the fun.

There's a BMX park thing down the road from my place, the other day they were setting off fireworks. Scallywags!
Jim
Posts: 8356
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
even if your heavily over-estimated mileage figures on lpg compared to my under-estimated figures were true:

I guess I could drop down to a 2.0 turbo diesel and still surpass your power and torque and spend less than lpg

or drop down to a turbo diesel / electric hybrid and come close to or possibly even still match your power and torque and spend an unrivaled lower amount

or even ride a bike and spend nothing


if the $$ were even the point, or even the only point
Scooter
Posts: 1425
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
One day at Ormeau I travelled slightly under 30km and used just under 1/2 a tank of Unleaded Fuel (70lt tank).

Do I get good fuel economy?

I thought it was called Mitsu Hill because it keeps breaking Mitsu's...
And most people know it as "The Chicken Track" but we have a few people calling it Mitsu Hill now :p
My mate from work in a Zook just snapped a CV there too (Same place as the Challanger), so thats 4 that I know of that have snapped there, Maybe a name change to CV Smasher?
Jim
Posts: 8357
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
stinky snapped an axle or cv there at least once that I can remember too
Raven
Posts: 2947
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
http://zero.racetime.com.au/files/threaddirection.jpg

http://zero.racetime.com.au/files/trainwreck-19thomas-600.jpg
Jim
Posts: 8358
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lucky he had a box of spares in the back and changed it out right there halfway up the hill
paveway
Posts: 8140
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
who cares if it's derailed, it's a maxe thread i'm surprised he's even read it again since the OP

and lpg bashing is more fun
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14448
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
I thought it was called Mitsu Hill because it keeps breaking Mitsu's...
And most people know it as "The Chicken Track" but we have a few people calling it Mitsu Hill now :p


yeah every time i see it, it gets worse too.

i'll have to attempt it some time though, the paj might need a hose out afterwards though.

stinky
Posts: 2716
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
stinky snapped an axle or cv there at least once that I can remember too


yeah, and punctured two tyres within about 15 minutes.
Jim
Posts: 8360
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
X6 tune on the left, mine on the right:
http://www.bmw.com.au/scripts/main.asp?PageID=11768&PID=16


oops didn't notice that link didn't even go to the right place
fixed
Le Infidel
Posts: 2217
Location: Netherlands
while not my ride yet I think it will be something similair to this tasty 19th century vehicle of transportation

http://amesterdam.info/tourism\BikesInAmsterdam_large.jpg
Jim
Posts: 8362
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeh but how many chickens died to make that bike
Scooter
Posts: 1426
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Amsterdam is crazy with it's bikes. They have like this Bikepark (think carpark) with a few Thousand bikes there.

Pretty boring not that I think about it, but it seemed hell interisting at the time, other influences may have been at play though.
orbitor
Posts: 7681
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That X6 is incredibly ugly. Chris Bangle has NFI.
Jim
Posts: 8364
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought it looked funny at first but it grew on me after a few weeks
I woulda waited for them to come out if I didn't need the extra space in the rear seats and luggage area. They drive a little sportier than X5's due to wider track, although adaptive drive makes a world of difference for X5's. None of the X6 demos locally have adaptive drive so they actually feel wallowy by comparison.
infi
Posts: 9379
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you think x6 is ugly you are probably a tit-hater too.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14453
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
its very stylish but i don't rate it at all.

looks like an M3 or something with the wrong aspect ratio. they should have given it its own look rather than copy/paste/scale an existing one imo.

its a perversion of an existing look thats probablby a bit hit and miss anyway. its like a pregnant jessica alba. look is still there, but s***s all out of proportion.

last edited by nF at 13:31:56 20/Aug/08
orbitor
Posts: 7683
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah its proportions are all wonky. It looks like a novelty-sized roller skate.

BMW's stopped looking good after the E46 series. Now Audis and Mercs have far better looking metal, when it used to be the other way round.

The engineering in the current BMW's is still outstanding though, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to turn down an M3 or M5 if someone was handing them out :P Though I would trade the M3 on an RS4 or the M5 on an R8 ;)
Spook
Posts: 22373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive seen some FULLY HEKTIC looking audis getting around brisbane lately

Jim
Posts: 8373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
BMW's stopped looking good after the E46 series.
ugh :(
totally disagree
stinky
Posts: 2718
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive seen some FULLY HEKTIC looking audis getting around brisbane lately


That's because all the cocks are buying Audi's these days.
Le Infidel
Posts: 2219
Location: Netherlands
any e92 2 door looks awesome to me
orbitor
Posts: 7684
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
case in point.


hot:

http://images.europeancarweb.com/images/0703_ec_01_z audi_rs4_mtm front_view.jpg

not:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2008/2263521529_b567b317f4_b.jpg
Jim
Posts: 8374
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
put a nice shiny reflective marketing pic of a sedan against a bland white user pic of a coupe, and still fail to make a case
maxe
Posts: 13133
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
too much pump fakin and half steppin in this thread

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8884/img8445fd5.jpg
By maxe1

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2047/img8467ym0.jpg
By maxe1
maxe
Posts: 13134
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f***ing hell imageshack is s***
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14455
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/spinders/sid_ice_age.jpg
Jim
Posts: 8376
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
juicy
infi
Posts: 9386
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
actually that audi in "taken" is quite tight.
Jim
Posts: 8377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the S8?
was an A3 in there as well, audi have been pimpin in movies a lot
Jim
Posts: 8391
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so how'd you go infi
paveway
Posts: 8168
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
there is an orange audi R8 getting around west end, pretty f***ing sweet
Spook
Posts: 22389
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, ive seen it, its f***ing tits:

theres a stack of nice cars getting around west end these days
infi
Posts: 9396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
HOLY s*** THE X6 IS MADNESS.

A quick overview
- yes it is as high as an X5
- the rear view window is apain in the ass but is offset by very large win mirrors
- it is appointed basically the same as a 5 series in terms of fit out.
- sexy HUD into the front windscreen showing speed, and other indicators.
- no parking handbrake, just a tiny little switch which gives awesome amounts of room in centre console.
- i drove the 335 twin turbo petrol 3L auto and it absolutely hammered.
- a little underpowered it felt in the low gears but once into third it really pulls.
- it is a Sports Activity Vehicle with all wheel drive so its not a sport car as such but a multipurpose.
- The rear seat roof area is a _little_ low but you would get used to it.
- The boot is massive.
- In terms of looks it just dominates anything else on the road.

The one stand out thing was the X6's handling. This thing sticks to the road like glue and no lurching feeling when you're going around corners like other big 4WD vehicles.

at $149k fully tricked out I will be waiting a while to get one but it is a dream to drive.

last edited by infi at 15:03:48 22/Aug/08
Jim
Posts: 8392
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
another way of putting it (imo) is to say they are simply a coupe version of the X5

the differences between them are:

- coupe vs wagon (duh)
- lower front grill, rear exhaust and other minor skirt differences
- a little less room in the back seat and lots less in the luggage area due to the coupe shape
- slightly wider wheel track
- slightly lower centre of gravity
- twin turbo 3.0 petrol is an option and in aus, twin turbo v8 isn't (boo)
- updated xdrive system

the rest is practically identical, including the options list

you should go back for a crack at the twin turbo diesel, it pulls harder in the low gears, and it's only slower from 0-100 by .2 of a second (on paper) and I simply couldn't tell that it was slower at all driving them both back to back - all I could tell was that it was quicker down low.
orbitor
Posts: 7687
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah i reckon in that 2 tonne lump of metal the diesel would be better.
paveway
Posts: 8169
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
theres a stack of nice cars getting around west end these days


yeah i dunno why, it's still a f***ing s*** hole

also infi, they have probably made it so the wastegate for the turbos only closes in 3rd gear and above. new mazda 3 mps is the same dunno why, probably to stop racing and stop people from smashing gears.
Jim
Posts: 8394
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they're sequential turbos as well, little one for lower rpm
this is in both the petrol and diesel

I think it's mainly the weight vs displacement which is why the diesel seems to shine lower down

I guess the other thing too is that these vehicles have a 'learning' transmission so if you leave it in normal 'D' mode on your test drive and don't spend several minutes driving it aggressively before you start forming your opinion, you'll often get a false impression of what it's actually like to drive one all the time cos the shifting pattern adapts to your level of right boot. So if it's been for a few test drives where it was driven rather gently before you come along, it's shifting pattern will still be optimised for gentle driving and you'll think it's a slug. You've gotta tell it you want a bit of fun so it adjusts. Either that or flick the shifter over into DS mode, which infi might not have done.
paveway
Posts: 8170
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i tell your mother what i want jim
Jim
Posts: 8396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
she's used to being ridden like you stole it
shad
Posts: 2356
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
new mazda 3 mps is the same dunno why, probably to stop racing and stop people from smashing gears.


Probably cause its FWD and would torque steer like a mofo.
Jim
Posts: 8398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
or like a mini
maxe
Posts: 13142
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah i dunno why, it's still a f***ing s*** hole


GENTRIFICATION
Jim
Posts: 8408
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
misinformation alert
the petrol 6cyl and 8cyl aren't sequential turbos, they're split between cylinders. only the diesel 6 is sequential

IM SORRY OK
stinky
Posts: 2730
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you stupid f***, I just bought one on your advise of it being sequencial.
Jim
Posts: 8410
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think I should take it off your hands - it's the right thing to do
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14482
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
sequinsal turbos are gay for poofs anyway.
Jim
Posts: 8411
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but really manly for blokes
BigZub
Posts: 4799
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
jim what happened to your patrol? and how much did you pay for your new toy? we all know how much you earn, so just tell us anyways you nerd.


love you.
Jim
Posts: 8414
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nothing happened to it :) other than getting more dents and aftermarket drivetrain components ;) I wouldn't part with the pootrol for anything

new toy was about 155k all told
~17k of that was luxury car tax which is pretty awesome
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