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Topic: Ashes 2017/18
fpot
Posts: 26097
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Bulls*** over hyped lead up is over and the cricket has begun.

Proper test cricket yesterday. Lyon looking dangerous and now picking up wickets. Australia to win 3-1.
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paveway
Posts: 21417
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Shaun Marsh's first impact on thw game was a dropped sitter, classic Marsh brothers
fpot
Posts: 26100
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

If Smith gets out cheaply we're f***ed.
Spook
Posts: 40881
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Omg so excited obviously not about our keeper selection.
fpot
Posts: 26101
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Meanwhile Maxwell is 150+* in the Sheffield Shield.
Spook
Posts: 40882
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I thought he had done enough to get selected. I totes would have gone maxwell before f***8ng marsh :(
fpot
Posts: 26102
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

He's also a second spin bowling option. Hopefully they're about to give him out so he can be f***ed off for the second test.
Spook
Posts: 40884
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

He is ready i reckon to go through a smith like rebirth.
paveway
Posts: 21419
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Can't be worse than marsh...
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39346
Location: Other International

This is the worst Ashes ever! I'm in bed before it starts and get up after it's over.
Spook
Posts: 40885
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i cant believe im not going this year. (even if i fail majorly most times when i go)
paveway
Posts: 21420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah you are better off watching it on tv, you will at least make the lunch break
Spook
Posts: 40886
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
not the same atmosphere when i storm off early
Spook
Posts: 40890
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
smith again left to pick up the pieces after aussie top order collapses for f*** all.

maxwell scores 278.

SACK MARSH. (or maybe khawaja)
fpot
Posts: 26104
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I hope Paine succeeds but I see Hanscombe becoming keeper and Maxwell coming into the side at 6.
paveway
Posts: 21423
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Reckon handscombe can really become the full time keeper?

When he kept last time he very much looked like a part time keeper. He did an alright job but he was super relaxed about it.
fpot
Posts: 26105
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I guess it's speculation on my part whether he could be developed into a keeper of test quality, but Australia could really use 7 specialist batsman. We're really missing runs being made at number 7. I can't remember the last time anyone made a decent score in that position.

But hey, Paine was dismissed by a cracker good enough to get any batsmen in the history of the game today so I'm not writing him off yet. If he succeeds we could get a good four years out of him.
paveway
Posts: 21424
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Pretty sure i can't remembwr any batsman apart from steve smith making any good runs for a while.

It is getting f***ing embarassing how often steve smith has to single handedly save a test match with his bat.
fpot
Posts: 26107
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

... and the tail. Cummins is a very welcome addition. From what I saw on TV and heard on the radio he handled himself brilliantly today. Starc is a bit more of a flat track bully but he makes plenty of handy runs as well.

Don't forget about Warner. He's been amongst it lately.
Spook
Posts: 40891
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Cummins was EXCELLENT with the bat. hung around, looked great, scored runs.

perfect innings.

id put nevill in as keeper.
paveway
Posts: 21425
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
We got this
Spook
Posts: 40892
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** off, you had the biggest salty tears yesterday that we had lost already.

starc smashing root in the head was awesome.

pitch is livening up which will suit our quicks.

we'll show the poms how to properly bowl short.
paveway
Posts: 21426
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Nah it was never in doubt bro
fpot
Posts: 26109
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Wickets please.
paveway
Posts: 21427
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The greatest delivers
fpot
Posts: 26110
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Australias' greatest ever finger-spinner gets another and it was an even better one.

edit: Lyon's gonna clean up today. Do England even have a specialist spinner on tour?
paveway
Posts: 21428
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Greatest ever spinner.
fpot
Posts: 26111
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Don't go there.
fpot
Posts: 26113
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Needed that one!
Spook
Posts: 40893
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fortress will live on
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 21504
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Never in doubt
trillion
Posts: 4335
Location: Ballarat, Victoria
How good was Warner though
paveway
Posts: 21429
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Had this from day 1
fpot
Posts: 26114
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Suffer in ya jocks England.
Spook
Posts: 40894
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pave= schokcer
paveway
Posts: 21430
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Great win, always had it in the bag.
Fade2Black
Posts: 5338
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For those talking about Paine as a batsmen. He has only ONE first class hundred to his name. Nevill has 9 and I think by all accounts is a better keeper. Nevill is almost a year younger and averages 39 at first class level compared to 29 for Paine. Apparently the thing keeping him out of the team is he's quiet behind the stumps....

Personally think Khawaja doesn't belong. His weakness to spin is so evident that if I was a captain I'd bring my spinner on immediately when he comes out. Its almost Cullinan like!

Happy with how Marsh performed in the end. He should have scored more but thankfully he got to 50 when we really needed it. Not sure Maxwell would have had the temperament to bat the way we needed to on days 1 and 2 when it was a really slow patient grind.
Spook
Posts: 40897
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, im team nevill as well, im not sure why he was overlooked?

happy for marsh or khawaja to be dropped to get maxwell in as a true all rounder batting nunmber 6.

if khawaja goes, marsh goes to number 3, and if he fails there, boot him and never select him again. (tough love)
paveway
Posts: 21431
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I am pretty sure i remember thinking surely this must be the last time a marsh gets selected last time they failed, like for real this was the 20th time and failed.

But here we are.
Spook
Posts: 40898
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
off to adelaide next for the day/nite test with pink ball.

if poms cant win in adelaide, they cant win anywhere.
paveway
Posts: 21433
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Joe Root must have been smoking some high grade weed before he came out and chose to bowl first.
fpot
Posts: 26117
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Yeah seriously the wicket is flat as, what was he thinking?
Spook
Posts: 40903
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
trying to be a little too bit out of the box
fpot
Posts: 26118
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Kind of reminds me of the time another captain decided to bowl first on a flat wicket in the second test.
Sir Redhat
Posts: 2169
Location: Sydney, New South Wales


http://www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/csiro-launch-study-england-chose-bowl-first/

What is the go with the day night tests? Is this a ruse for channel 9 to make more money through ads, like the NRL state of origin and grand finals being moved later?

I guess it helps people can come to the oval to catch a few hours after work.
paveway
Posts: 21434
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Day night tests are awesome

Being able to come home from work and watch test cricket is awesome
paveway
Posts: 21435
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The greatest australian spinner of all time nathan lyon should open the bowling imo
fpot
Posts: 26120
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Are you trying to upset me?
Spook
Posts: 40904
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pave thought we were going to lose the first test.
paveway
Posts: 21436
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Did not

No fpot, just sayin' how it is
fpot
Posts: 26121
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

You think Lyon is a better bowler than Warne?
Spook
Posts: 40905
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
next pave will be saying fleetwood mac is a better band than the beatles.

hes lost his mind!!!!
paveway
Posts: 21437
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Mick Fleetwood is a bit of a genius
fpot
Posts: 26122
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Bye Root.

Bye England.
funky
Posts: 1916
Location: Canada
may or may not have yelled yes! into the phone of a virtual meeting i was on when I saw the cricinfo update that root was gone, haha
fpot
Posts: 26123
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

It would make me extra delighted to see Cook depart.
fpot
Posts: 26124
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I reckon Smith could be a bit more aggressive with his Lyon field.
Sir Redhat
Posts: 2170
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQLzJX0UMAATcWe.jpg
Spook
Posts: 40906
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
aussies should have enforced follow on.
paveway
Posts: 21438
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

nah it could have gone way worse if they had enforced it
Spook
Posts: 40907
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how, by finishing this test even sooner?
paveway
Posts: 21439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

so he could win, never in doubt.
fpot
Posts: 26125
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Mitch Marsh has been called into the squad because what Australia really needs right now is a bowling all-rounder who can barely bowl and also can't bat.
paveway
Posts: 21440
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Still a better choice than watson
Spook
Posts: 40908
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ffs, get maxwell in there!!!!!
funky
Posts: 1917
Location: Canada
cummins has practically been a bowling allrounder so far in this series
fpot
Posts: 26138
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

What the f***

Joban said he could get players to follow “scripts” — such how many runs would be scored in a session, or an innings, when a wicket will fall and what a team would do if it won the toss.


tee hee

Seems rather scandalous. Will be pretty f***ed up if true. If there's a weak point on the Australian team it is David Warner.
fpot
Posts: 26142
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

That toss was rigged.
fpot
Posts: 26143
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

That dropped catch was brutal :(
Spook
Posts: 40919
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
marsh(s) are f***ing useless.

how was maxwell not selected?!
funky
Posts: 1918
Location: Canada
mitchell marsh better sack up and do something in this test, that was a sitter.
fpot
Posts: 26145
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

MMarsh is f***ing cack.
funky
Posts: 1919
Location: Canada
lucky we drafted him in to bowl 9 overs at 4.77 an over....
fpot
Posts: 26147
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Australia on top I reckon.
Spook
Posts: 40920
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thanks to Smith again.
fpot
Posts: 26149
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

MMarsh doing alright!
Spook
Posts: 40921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Smith is the man.

so many runs, australia would be nowhere without him.
fpot
Posts: 26150
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Put Smith down for a 300.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 21505
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

killing it
fpot
Posts: 26151
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

It's always been like that. Clarke, Ponting, Waugh and Border before him have been the rocks. Be interesting to see some specifics regarding runs scored amongst those players.
Spook
Posts: 40922
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
isnt that called their average?
fpot
Posts: 26152
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I meant percentage compared to the others.
fpot
Posts: 26154
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Really gotta say, those Marshes have us all looking pretty silly right now.
fpot
Posts: 26155
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Just to keep the drunk cricket posting going!

Lots of talk of match fixing of late. I try to abstain from declaring certain moments suspect because I'm well aware that some truly wondrous and seemingly unbelievable s*** can occur out there. However...



Mark Waugh may just be the greatest slip fielder of all time. This happened in his last test series. That third dropped catch... even I'd catch that one probably 9/10 times.
Spook
Posts: 40923
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mite have just been old.

ive heard that happens to some people.
infi
Posts: 23896
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

$3.25 for a draw. I couldn't refuse.
Spook
Posts: 40924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
only rain today will save the poms.
Spook
Posts: 40925
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ok, maybe the waca groundsman could also save the poms.
infi
Posts: 23897
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

1pm start at Perth. 70 overs left. Meanwhile, number of overs required by Australia to take England's last six wickets so far this series:

14.2
31.4
39.0
22.0
8.2

from ABC feed
fpot
Posts: 26156
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Broad is seriously their worst batsmen atm. He used to be so good!

Loving the 3-0 win. No for two stress free games!
infi
Posts: 23900
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The pommies were terrible! Almost as bad as the pitch.
paveway
Posts: 21442
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Broad is seriously their worst batsmen atm. He used to be so good!


Mentally broken against fast short bowling
funky
Posts: 1921
Location: Canada
yeah he got drilled in the face a few years back and his batting has gone to s*** since
fpot
Posts: 26161
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Probably one of the worst test matches I've ever seen, that.
Spook
Posts: 40941
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i blame the pitch and the weather.

maybe we should ban melbourne from a test match next time?
infi
Posts: 23921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Easy money for a draw. England should have declared earlier.
hardware
Posts: 11744
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe we should ban melbourne from a test match next time?
Agreed.
paveway
Posts: 21447
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yeah these drop in pitches don't help
fpot
Posts: 26162
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Mitch Marsh to play County Cricket, not IPL

Willing to give him major props for this. I reckon all our batsmen should be forced to do it. One of the common traits of the great batsmen during the the 1995-2007 period is that many of them played s***loads of county cricket and competitive four day cricket in general. I really hope this pays dividends from him and that we have a world-class all rounder in the team.
hardware
Posts: 11746
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Looks like spook was right
Melbourne put on notice after terrible pitch
paveway
Posts: 21452
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I can't disagree with that really, i am sure that wasn't their intention with the pitch but somewhere along the line the mcg curator has f***ed up
Fade2Black
Posts: 5340
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That new system was an interesting read. Will the ICC have the balls to sanction Indian pitches though??

Also fpot imo Taylor was better than Waugh in the slips.
hardware
Posts: 11747
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Will the ICC have the balls to sanction Indian pitches though??
Of course not. Can you really expect they'll apply the same standards to them as they do to say, Old Trafford?
paveway
Posts: 21453
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Haha no of course not, india will serve up their doctored s***ty pitches and be rated AAA+
Fade2Black
Posts: 5341
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Last Aussie tour of India a pitch was rated poor.
fpot
Posts: 26166
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

England one wicket away from winning the test match here. I kind of hope they get it! :D

Australia to win 3-1.
fpot
Posts: 26168
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I'd love to see a concentrated effort to restore aussie pitches to their original character. Brisbane hard and bouncy, WACA fast bowlers paradise (maybe the new ground will do this), Adelaide and Sydney spinners wickets. f*** I don't even remember what the MCG wicket was... probably one of the more neutral wickets.
paveway
Posts: 21455
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The problem is drop in pitches, i have been listening to them talk about them on the cricket. I didn't realise each pitch in the square sits in its own idividual metal tray. It gets a bit nerdy engineering almost but one issue Heals mentioned when they roll the pitch because of the tray the dirt can't displace sideways which i could see being a problem when trying to make a hard bouncey pitch for example, they can't get the compaction in the soil because it can't displace as much as a pitch made in place.

Though apparently the latest version of the drop in pitches has holes in the bottom of the trays so the roots can penetrate beyond the tray, melbourne was not using that version of the drop in tray for the game just gone. Though not sure that will make much difference to my first point.
fpot
Posts: 26173
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

A great series win by Australia and some interesting statistics to come out of the series as well. First time in test cricket history that only the four specialist bowlers have taken all the wickets is my personal fav -

https://i.imgur.com/6Zy0jyi.png
paveway
Posts: 21460
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The GOATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Spook
Posts: 40953
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
awesome bowling effort by australia. absolutely top notch.

"English test cricket team came all the way to Australia four nothing"
fpot
Posts: 26175
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Australia have reanimated the corpse of Cameron White instead of picking Glenn Maxwell.

Although going by my selection comments this season he'll end up top scorer and wicket taker so power to him I guess!
Spook
Posts: 40956
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
feel for maxwell :(
paveway
Posts: 21468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
And cameron white has been kicking ass in the big bash
fpot
Posts: 26179
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Australia looking like total minnows in the ODIs. Good thing Cameron White is here to save us all.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39426
Location: Other International

Yeh these games are pretty embarrassing. I really wanted to make it to the Gabba tonight but couldn't get there - kind of glad I didn't bother now.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39427
Location: Other International

Also literally everything Mark Taylor says makes me want to mute the entire thing and put Grandstand on
fpot
Posts: 26180
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Yeah what an absolute fizzer. Don't mind losing but apart from a couple of Starc wickets and a good ton by Finch not much to crow about.

I reckon more of the test players need to play. Where's Lyon for f***s sake?
Spook
Posts: 40967
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
need maxwell in the side
infi
Posts: 23938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I went to the game but went to the pub after Australia finished batting.
fpot
Posts: 26181
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Smart move.
paveway
Posts: 21475
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yeah unless they are hitting 300+ in the first innings now it isn't even worth watching.

Remember when 260 was competitive lol
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39428
Location: Other International

Is the ODI format finished? The first game there was barely anyone in the crowd.
paveway
Posts: 21476
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It stuggles maybe? i must admit the last few years now i have been left underwhelmed when the first odi starts, because by that point i have been watched most of the BBL season which really plays on the instant gratification bit of your brain.

But i get into it after a few overs and i do enjoy the time they have to strategize a bit more than t20 games. T20 has made is more exciting because they treat it like a longer t20 game. The expectation is to score a run ball or you are not making a par score.
infi
Posts: 23939
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

there is a lot more strategy in ODI which I appreciate. It feels like a min Test match because there is more emphasis on not getting bowled out for the first 30 overs.
fpot
Posts: 26237
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I reckon the summer should be at least three tests x2 or in ashes years one or two tests + fives ashes with the minimal amount of limited overs cricket. Really boring this year and made worse by Australia getting trounced in the ODIs. That GABBA match was abysmal. Congrats on Steve Smith on his two medals. Looks like he's discovered a second kind of baggy green.

https://imgur.com/LiaEwhI.jpg
paveway
Posts: 21487
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

haha i agree with you the more test match cricket the better

but the vast majority aren't that into it, there would be a burn out pretty quickly
Spook
Posts: 40984
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cant play too much test cricket. would kill our crickters.
paveway
Posts: 21488
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

That is also a good point, i told spook at the start of the first test that our fast bowling group wouldn't play all 5 tests and sure enough stark went down after 3 tests
fpot
Posts: 26267
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

There's more cricket and it's test cricket and Warner has 50 and Smith is batting.

edit: Warner out literally as I typed.
Spook
Posts: 41006
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
get this, saffers havent won a series at home against australia since the 1970s!!!!

i find that bizarre.

i guess our pitches are similar, but still.

yup, good start last nite, needed warner or smith to go on with it though.

need the tail to have a bit of a wag tonite, would want 400 minimum.

one of the players summed it up, two incredible bowling attacks, whoever bats the best is going to win this series.

little bit miffed its on at nite, i guess i can just watch a replay during the day while im lying around dreaming of throwing and bowling again.
Spook
Posts: 41009
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wow, aussies completely on top already after smashing the saffers with the ball!!!!

great cameo by Starc with the bat when the aussies were really tied down, came in and just blasted away and freed up the scoring allowing us to put on another 75 odd runs.
fpot
Posts: 26273
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Remember they were banned from international sport for a long period of time.

Australia DOMINATING. Hopefully we can back it up with the bat tonight.
paveway
Posts: 21503
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I feel like buying some sunflower seed oil
Spook
Posts: 41010
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
oh dear, warner :(
fpot
Posts: 26279
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Yeah that was pretty f***ing ugly.
Spook
Posts: 41011
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
bit too pumped from his runout :( (which was very good)
fpot
Posts: 26303
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

A real f***ing shame Rabada has been banned. A petulant little c*** for sure, but one looking like he may be the best bowler of his generation. If Steyn doesn't return RSA are in big trouble.
Spook
Posts: 41015
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yup absolutely. Cant be the brightest spark either tho.

Fast bowlers get a fair bit of leeway with what they can get away with and he still couldnt manage to not over step the line.
fpot
Posts: 26317
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

https://i.imgur.com/IPojvy3.png

Yes it's real...
funky
Posts: 1927
Location: Canada
overton tee'd off a bit to get them to 58 all out. He scored 33* from No. 9
Spook
Posts: 41035
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
saffers are batting!

aussies have an early wicket.
Spook
Posts: 41038
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the aussies have knowingly made a plan to cheat to win.

i cant even.

:(
fpot
Posts: 26329
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Yeah what the f***
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39521
Location: Other International

WHAT IS HAPPENING

this is incredible. What were they thinking?

Is it possible Smith was not involved and is just trying to share the blame to take all the spotlight off Bancroft?
Spook
Posts: 41039
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nope.

i think its more likely that bancroft has beeb thrown under the bus.
paveway
Posts: 21519
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I am struggling to find the words to express how stupid this is
Spook
Posts: 41041
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Got a mate who at the cricket yesterday. Warner was full copping it from the crowd.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 39523
Location: Other International

I am struggling to find the words to express how stupid this is
I am embarrassed
fpot
Posts: 26333
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Smith cannot be captain anymore and neither can anyone involved in the planning of this. Makes it pretty slim pickings. Tim Paine is captaining the rest of this match.

I woke up early for work and like always instinctively checked the overnight cricket score. Haven't woken up to something so devastating since that night with infi's mum. The fact Australia will probably lose the match they cheated in by 300+ runs adds to the embarrassment. The effects of this will last decades.
reload!
Posts: 7743
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
shouldn't ever captain again and should be banned from playing for a period of time.

Australia has always been able to take the moral highground on this sorta s*** and that is now goooooooooooooooone. utterly f***ed.

and that's before even addressing how f***ing retarded the action was. at least use something vaguely hard to see not a BRIGHT f***ING YELLOW bit of tape. saffa cameramen are the best in the world (at spotting hawties in the crowd). how in the name of f*** did they imagine they wouldn't be spotted?!

I wouldn't be upset if those involved never played for Australia again.
Spook
Posts: 41043
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahaha, i do love how the saffers love showing birds inbetween overs.
Creepy
Posts: 2482
Location: USA

Australia lost all 10 wickets for less than England did in their effort against NZ.
Spook
Posts: 41044
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
geezus, put a broom through the team.

Creepy
Posts: 2483
Location: USA

It won't happen, but I'd love to have a Shield all-stars team flown over to take up 5-6 spots on the side. It's time to rebuild and focus on youth.

Hell, send that team that played in NZ a month ago - they were fun to watch!
paveway
Posts: 21520
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

there is more than enough youth in the team now, maybe that is the problem

smith was captain at 24
Spook
Posts: 41045
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so, we all seen the footage of bancroft loading his pocket with sugar during the ashes?

looks like they've done this before (which is why i guess they thought they could get away with it)

that makes it even worse.
paveway
Posts: 21521
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

he was just saving it for a 'pick me up' later

but f*** me he couldn't have looked any more sus, the look on his face as he did it and just after screams 'i am doing dodgey s***'

but sugar wouldn't do s*** in terms of trying to scuff the ball up, if you stuck sugar to a piece of tape and then tried to rub a cricket ball it would turn to dust. it was probably more likely to be used like the poms did with those breath mints the sugar in those lollies they had that they were using when they would shine the ball.
Creepy
Posts: 2484
Location: USA

That was actually Faf du Plessis that did that, against Australia!
Sir Redhat
Posts: 2203
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

he was just saving it for a 'pick me up' later

but f*** me he couldn't have looked any more sus, the look on his face as he did it and just after screams 'i am doing dodgey s***'

but sugar wouldn't do s*** in terms of trying to scuff the ball up, if you stuck sugar to a piece of tape and then tried to rub a cricket ball it would turn to dust. it was probably more likely to be used like the poms did with those breath mints the sugar in those lollies they had that they were using when they would shine the ball.


If you could get some of the sugar to stick to the ball or if it crystallised after drying out it would be enough to make the ball turn??

Dymocks on fire.
https://www.facebook.com/DymocksBrisbane/photos/a.660001997345780.1073741831.112812042064781/1868760063136628/?type=3&theater
paveway
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I believe it was about getting it to shine the ball for swing
Sir Redhat
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Moisture could fill in the divots for like 1-2 balls?
trog
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So news this morning is the three "conspirators" have been sent home but Lehmann hasn't.

I personally would like to think Lehmann was totally unaware of these issues so doesn't bother me that he's still around. But I do wonder if it would have helped if he voluntarily stepped aside while the investigation was happening (or if it would have just created the irrevocable impression he was involved).
Spook
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its an incredibly bad look for him as coach which ever way it played out.

this culture was fostered under his watch.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Apparently David Warner has 'gone rogue' and isn't talking to or being accepted by any of the other players. He may never play for Australia again.
paveway
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Unlikley lehman didn't know given what i saw, but i dunno with all this warner talk now
Spook
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chat is that he was letting the players know they were busted via tv when he called down to 12th man.

he may well have not known, but still, happened while he was coach.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Apparently Smith, Warner and Bancroft have been given 12 months each.

edit: Bancroft given nine.
trog
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it's a start.
fpot
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12 months is plenty, I'm satisfied. Hopefully Australian cricket can recover, and if there's time, Smith,Warner and especially Bancroft can salvage their careers.
Spook
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most telling:
warner will never hold a leadership position in the australian team again.

Sir Redhat
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales

This interview with smith is brutal.
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the press conference?

it was :(

no one wants to see a grown man cry :(((((((
Sir Redhat
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Yeah it was s***. I am all about the f*** warner bandwagon now.

Why the f*** are south african cricket commentators even allowed on our media? If anyone is going to have a bitch it should be the kiwis, they are the last ones with the moral high ground here.
Python
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Python
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looking at all the other punishments for ball tampering that other cricketers overseas have received and it's so minor, miss one match, half a match payment etc lol, these guys get taken to the stake in comparison.
paveway
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yep ICC gave warner and smith 1 match and bancroft got a warning

But cricket australia stepped in with the hysteria
reload!
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Because the ICC are a pack of corrupt c***s with no interest in the integrity of the game.

Australia actually wants to maintain it's image as giving a f*** about fair play and send a message that this shouldn't be tolerated.

You would have to think that the punishments handed down here would act as a reasonably significant deterrent to any Australian players considering it in the future.

We should continue to strive in setting a strong example and not simply saying, "well f*** it, other dogs*** countries do it so why shouldn't we?"
trog
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+1 reload

also, we should think that for lots of things that aren't cricket
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Yep, it will be decades before someone f***s up again like this.

Anyone else notice the sound of crickets (lol geddit) re: Warner. If he came up with the plan and did it without Smith's knowledge then Smith is a f***ing hero. Sure, it may be reasonable to say as captain he should have detected it but you trust your teammates and you especially trust your VC. He's taken more than his fair share of the heat in any case.

Hopefully he can be captain again in two years. That press conference was raw as f***. Haven't felt that emotional since I saw Up! for the first time.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Ballsy move from Bancroft and Smith to waive their right to appeal and accept their original punishments. Again, waiting on Warner.
trog
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In other cricket news: Channel 7 paid a cool $1b for the rights to be Channel 9 for the first time in over 40 years. Pretty ballsy move considering the current climate around cricket in Australia.
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Channel 7 AND foxtel
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

As a foxtel watcher, im stoked with this.
paveway
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Foxtel paid the lion share, the only reason channel 7 are involved is because the law forces foxtel to have to let some of it be on free to air tv

As a foxtel customer my smug levels have leveled up
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I am now also a Foxtel customer.
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that is their end game bro.

if you are serious about watching sport in australia, i cant see how you can't be a foxtel customer.

trog
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Location: Other International

well, that's what I'm going to test for the next year or so. I'm not prepared to pay monthly rent to Foxtel for sport; I'd rather go to a pub!
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
for normal people with jobs and families, thats undoable.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

well, that's what I'm going to test for the next year or so. I'm not prepared to pay monthly rent to Foxtel for sport; I'd rather go to a pub!
Neither was I until the cricket thing happened. Then I got it and there's sport sport sport everywhere and it's HD and streams nicely. F1, euro soccer leagues, NFL... it's all there!!!!
Spook
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
plus foxtel go is f***ing awesome.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Ireland just finished their first ever test match against Pakistan, losing by five wickets.

Would have been nice for them to win but a low losing margin against an established test side is a good start.
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