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Topic: It's State of Origin time... again
fpot
Posts: 25864
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

First the probable lineups -

NSW

1. James Tedesco, 2. Blake Ferguson, 3. Josh Dugan, 4. Jarryd Hayne, 5. Brett Morris, 6. James Maloney, 7. Mitchell Pearce, 8. Aaron Woods, 9. Nathan Peats, 10. Andrew Fifita, 11. Josh Jackson, 12. Boyd Cordner (c), 13. Tyson Frizell

Interchange: 14. David Klemmer, 15. Wade Graham, 16. Jake Trbojevic, 17. Jack Bird

QLD

1. Darius Boyd, 2. Corey Oates, 3. Will Chambers, 4. Justin O’Neill, 5. Dane Gagai, 6. Anthony Milford, 7. Cooper Cronk, 8. Dylan Napa, 9. Cameron Smith (C), 10. Nate Myles, 11. Josh Papalii, 12. Matt Gillett, 13. Josh McGuire.

Interchange: 14. Michael Morgan, 15. Sam Thaiday, 16. Aidan Guerra, 17. Jacob Lillyman.

Now I think for the first time since 2007 NSW have a stronger team on paper. If Scott, Thurston and Inglis were fit that would of course be a different story.

Big question marks for NSW are the rookie hooker Peats and of course Pearce. Maybe Pearce will finally have the blinder we've all been waiting for over a decade for but he'll probably suck like he usually does.

QLD will of course be missing their stars but they're still strong with legends Smith and Cronk still in the team. I agree with the non-selection of Slater. He was a sentimental pick, Boyd is the best man for the job. I doubted him last year but he played well and deserves to keep his spot. Inglis and Thurston are both such massive losses and QLD will lose so much in the attack department as a result.

Blues to win 3-0.
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FaceMan
Posts: 12776
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Peats will do fine.
Its Hayne that is the disaster in that side.
Dugan should be Fullback
cant believe they left out Jimmy the Jet

I would prefer QLD start with Morgan and bring Milford off the bench.
Oates is a chaotic player, NSW will send him Bombs
Fast track, this could be high scoring game if Hayne and Milf get going

QLD by 7
Psycho
Posts: 6279
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Blues to win 3-0


Oh dear are you not a Queenslander?...and here I was getting to like you so much.

Queensland will rape them in wheel chairs!!

:) I must admit I haven't followed League for years..I couldn't name any of them. But NFL and the mighty Packers...now were talking!!

last edited by Psycho at 03:53:31 29/May/17
paveway
Posts: 21262
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

milford needs to start as morgan brings more to the utility roll than milford

going to be a tough ask with so many players out

though milfford's speed is something we haven't had in the halves for a long time, should be interesting to see if that has any impact
notgreazy
Posts: 720
Location: Other International

I'm a bit of a stats whore, so looking at win/loss is interesting:

State of Origin series
Year Winner Wins Losses Drawn Shield Holder
1982 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
1983 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
1984 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
1985 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1986 New South Wales 3 0 0 New South Wales
1987 Queensland 2 1[23] 0 Queensland
1988 Queensland 3 0 0 Queensland
1989 Queensland 3 0 0 Queensland
1990 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1991 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
1992 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1993 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1994 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1995 Queensland 3 0 0 Queensland
1996 New South Wales 3 0 0 New South Wales
1997 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
1998 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
1999 Draw 1 1 1 Queensland
2000 New South Wales 3 0 0 New South Wales
2001 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2002 Draw 1 1 1 Queensland
2003 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
2004 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
2005 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
2006 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2007 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2008 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2009 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2010 Queensland 3 0 0 Queensland
2011 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2012 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2013 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2014 New South Wales 2 1 0 New South Wales
2015 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2016 Queensland 2 1 0 Queensland
2017 Yet to be played


Wowzer, QLD is dominating. I'm guessing the 2,1 score that keeps repeating has something to do with where the games are played (QLD vs NSW).

How's is it decided where the games will be held?
taggs
Posts: 6484
Location:

As much as I love being a QLDer in Syd during origin time surely NSW has to get up this year.
FaceMan
Posts: 12777
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Surely this is the last time for Pearce ?
Hes been playing well but has failed many times before.
No Farah will prolly help NSW attack.

I have this vision of Hayne packing the s***s with Pearce and having a sook on the field, if that happens QLD will smash'em.

Milford is the future and needs some games under his belt before Thurston and Cronk retire. I pity the NSW player who takes the first run at Dylan Napa.

Anyone going ? I heard Suncorp Stadium has two new big screens.
Sir Redhat
Posts: 2064
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

As much as I love being a QLDer in Syd during origin time surely NSW has to get up this year.


It is nice.

Who is going to be the new villain now Gallen is gone?
FaceMan
Posts: 12780
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/ggb777/NSW SUCKS CoRBY_zpsrzgypnpl.jpg
ctd
Posts: 10979
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is the best chance NSW have had in years.
fpot
Posts: 25870
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Blues will win by about 20 tonight.
fpot
Posts: 25871
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

What a half!
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 18390
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Fpot with the call
Fade2Black
Posts: 5326
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
First half was the highest standard of footy i can remember
fpot
Posts: 25872
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Holy s*** that was good. QLD's biggest ever loss in Queensland. Either the Blues will win Game 2 and I am going to watch the whitewash, or it's going to be my second decider.

edit: also holy s*** Tedesco. Best game I've seen from a Blues player since Johns Game 2 2005.
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 7648
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sack Walters
FaceMan
Posts: 12781
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
QLD didnt come out for the 2nd half.
Did Tedesco get MOTM ?

QLD seemed to be missing that charisma or air of confidence.
Thought Milf did ok, QLD forwards need some more beef.

Fifita was outstanding again.
Thats the best I can rem seeing NSW play
GG

deadlyf
Posts: 4012
Location: Queensland

Milf and Gagai were the only dangers for NSW, they need to dump Oneil for Holmes and bring Slater back because Boyd doesn't give them any attack through the middle like Slater does.

The old tired forwards also need to go, it'd be nice if Qld had the depth of selection that NSW does, the props available for NSW in comparison to Qld is insane.

Fifita is a beast and Tedesco was amazing, Mitchel Pierce was even having a great game until he went off concussed. NSW are a real threat of dominating for a few years at least.

The reign of the Immortals may very well be over.
paveway
Posts: 21267
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

disagree on slater, their attack through the middle from their fullback is the least of their problems and he wouldn't have made a difference last night

as cooper said after the game, having thurston isn't going to be a quick fix either

i think milford silenced his critics, he looked dangerous with the ball even though he was getting s*** ball and no room and he made some good one one one tackles

next game will be pretty interesting, if they can tighten that defense through the middle it will be a good game
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 18391
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
QLD was sorely missing Thurston. Going on last years games QLD plays revolved a lot around having him kicking Like A Boss. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of QLD's best practiced plays involved Thurston kicking, or the threat of him kicking.
As it seemed QLD really lacked in options for plays. There were several moments in the first half where the ball was passed successfully to a seemingly confused player who was undecided on what to do and partially juts stood there and the rest of the team didn't react too much either, as in people not anticipating and getting into positions.

Is he confirmed to be out for Game 2 as well?
Herron
Posts: 366
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The attack will always look flat when the forwards are getting rolled. A lot of the large modern forwards can't bend their back so the massive players like Fifita can walk through them. Gillett was cancelled out as all his effort was running sideways trying to cover the larger forwards missed tackles. Matt Scott is the player they're missing the most - they don't have a forward leader. There's no Webcke, Civoniceva, Price, Scott type player. They have to get in Wallace to at least show them how to tackle. Napa went or right but I think got injured??

NSW best pick was leaving Gallen and Farrah out of the side. Cordner is a great team player and by keeping the baggage of those other 2 away from such a young side they are free to play footy.
paveway
Posts: 21269
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The attack will always look flat when the forwards are getting rolled.


yep thurston being there would not have changed the outcome.
infi
Posts: 23706
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

i was at the game and felt like walking out at half time.
Spook
Posts: 40615
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
watched this in a sydney pub, wow, horrific.
FaceMan
Posts: 12787
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBTV73bU0AE5YWK.jpg
Nmag
Posts: 774
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

I watched it, I don't take that much interest in Rugby League, but I understand it's very important to QLD.
FaceMan
Posts: 12798
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thaiday is GOOOOOONE
* Oates has been sensationally axed from the left wing despite his strong showing in the series opener;

* Thaiday, who turns 33 on Monday, has been dumped — effectively ending his glittering 29-game Origin career; * Cowboys workhorse Gavin Cooper has been recalled at age 31;

* North Queensland’s Justin O’Neill has lost his centre spot after failing to muzzle Jarryd Hayne in Origin I;

* Veteran props Nate Myles and Jacob Lillyman have been dropped, although the latter may get a reprieve with debutant Jarrod Wallace facing suspension for a shoulder charge; and

* Cronulla’s Test flyer Valentine Holmes is tipped to make his debut on the right wing to add some attacking spark.


Hess is in the team too
HESS WE CAN

Paywalled
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/state-of-origin/maroons-coach-kevin-walters-faces-selection-nightmare-for-origin-ii/news-story/3c9bcab729087db10fdaffd68c7be0aa


E.T.
Posts: 5109
Location: Queensland

QLD Game 2 team is out:

XXXX Queensland Maroons

Billy Slater - Melbourne Storm
Darius Boyd - Brisbane Broncos
Will Chambers - Melbourne Storm
Dane Gagai - Newcastle Knights
Valentine Holmes - Cronulla Sharks
Johnathan Thurston - North Qld Cowboys
Cooper Cronk - Melbourne Storm
Jarrod Wallace - Gold Coast Titans
Cameron Smith - Melbourne Storm
Josh Papalii - Canberra Raiders
Gavin Cooper - North Qld Cowboys
Matt Gillett - Brisbane Broncos
Josh McGuire - Brisbane Broncos
Michael Morgan - North Qld Cowboys
Dylan Napa - Sydney Roosters
Coen Hess - North Qld Cowboys
Tim Glasby - Melbourne Storm

I like the look of this side. Bring it on ! :)
Fade2Black
Posts: 5328
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah that team looks far scarier than the game 1 team.
FaceMan
Posts: 12805
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Bit concerned about Boyd marking the Hayne Plane

QLD have a huge forward pack
This game might be all over in the first 10 mins
Some guys will not walk off the field.

I dont see NSW playing that good again.
We picked out of form forwards and got steam rolled.
NSW beat a QLD side minus at least 5 of their stars, they werent that good.

Losing this game will not be Tolerated.


paveway
Posts: 21277
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Bit concerned about Boyd marking the Hayne Plane


why? boyd is a great defender
fpot
Posts: 25897
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Getting a nervous feeling 😣
Spook
Posts: 40636
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just here to complain about the ridiculous starting time again.

can the NRL get anything right?

fpot
Posts: 25898
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Blues Dynasty.
Fade2Black
Posts: 5329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wade Graham is really bad
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 21494
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

wtf how many s*** calls
Fade2Black
Posts: 5330
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hayne and Graham just killing nsw
paveway
Posts: 21282
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

That kick for goal
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 21495
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

yeah JT is the man

I said at half time you guys weren't out of it.

Fifita did nothing

McGuire was immense for you guys!!

JT to take MoM up in Brisbane
fpot
Posts: 25899
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Nooooooooooooooooooo

Well I'm going to Game 3 so I guess it will be tense now but I don't want tense!
Reverend
Posts: 2129
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Blues Dynasty.


NOT!!!!! great game special thanks to the greatest showboat to ever live Jarrod Hayne.
deadlyf
Posts: 4014
Location: Queensland

Wallace and Napa were fantastic but I really think Qld got away with one there.

They just seem slower across the field and most of the hit ups were done by the smaller backs with the front rowers going missing for entire sets. How many times did they keep going wide only to get thrown out?

I thought the officiating was s*** in the first half for Qld and s*** in the second half for NSW, so about even guess.
paveway
Posts: 21283
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yep the qld forwards need a re-think, papali is just too slow for starters

They were trying to go around them because they had no ascendancy in the middle. Going side ways only works when you have guys going forward in the middle.

reload!
Posts: 7706
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
in what f***ing universe is this considered insufficient evidence of being out?
http://i.imgur.com/17WiqpA.jpg
FaceMan
Posts: 12815
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I dont see any part of his Boot touching the line... in way that could be enough evidence to overrule the original call. Dude cant you see the green ?

also...
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/ggb777/ORIGIN_zps0ycqvopy.jpg



... and 2017

MoTM for QLD was Hayne, he really lifted QLD when they had to go up a gear.
What a gutsy win, Gaigai was outstanding again.
NSW up 1 - 0 in a Series and by 10 points at half time at Home, has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, What a Choke.

What happened to NSW ?
paveway
Posts: 21284
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

his heal was over the line but it was in the air

i don't see qld winning game 3 unless their forwards do something different or they pick some different forwards or something, nsw won't let them off the hook like that in game 3 with the series on the line.
Nmag
Posts: 803
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

http://i.imgur.com/Sbq8fWn.jpg

It doesn't even matter. What ever lead NSW had at half time was doomed.

PS: I think it was rude they kept calling that Qld player "Gay Guy".
infi
Posts: 23720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Nmag made a funneh. That game was thrilling.
reload!
Posts: 7708
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
don't you plant the heel of of your forward foot first when running? there's no way it could have been in the air for the entire stride.


I agree that Hayne still would've found a way to lose it for NSW though.
deadlyf
Posts: 4015
Location: Queensland

The Hayne bashing is a little ironic since he has single-handedly won them games before.

I just hope they don't replace him with Trobabsbdccxzvic, he is in my fantasy team and plays the bye.
Hogfather
Posts: 16755
Location: Cairns, Queensland

Just f***en give the refs maroon jerseys next time.
paveway
Posts: 21285
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://i.imgur.com/qrh9Gg0.jpg

classic sportsbet FB page
deadlyf
Posts: 4016
Location: Queensland

So last game for Thurston, probably Cronk and maybe even Smith for game 3. I think that will give the edge to Qld for the decider but holy s*** are we f***ed for the next few years.
deadlyf
Posts: 4017
Location: Queensland


http://www.nrl.com/thurston-ruled-out-for-season/tabid/10874/newsid/109245/default.aspx

Well that f***ing sucks.
fpot
Posts: 25903
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Milford's out too. Yay Blues will win Game 3 and I'll be there to see it.
Sir Redhat
Posts: 2085
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Who is kicker if thurston isn't? This is a disaster.
fpot
Posts: 25904
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Cameron Smith is an accomplished kicker (despite his bad miss in Game 1). He kicks for the Storm.

edit: Boyd is out too.
Herron
Posts: 367
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

don't you plant the heel of of your forward foot first when running? there's no way it could have been in the air for the entire stride.


Your heel shouldn't touch the ground even when just jogging; sprinting - definitely not.
taggs
Posts: 6491
Location:

learn how 2 sprint reload lel

Edit: still think its nsw's year :( their forwards are too good
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