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Topic: what do you do about mobile phone security?
Taipan
Posts: 3764
Location: USA
Just curious as to what people here do about their phones security? I most interested in anti virus and malware protection aswell as anti theft and recovery ideas. Do any of you have tracking software incase your phones are misplaced or stolen, if so what do you use and have you actually had to use it to recover your phone?

Thanks in advance
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Murderer
Posts: 1872
Location: Tasmania

I use no anti virus and no tracking stuff.

Im not stupid enough to put a $600 item down and walk off without knowing where it is etc. I.e. leave on a bar, on a bus etc.

I never have and I have an Iphone 4s.

See heaps of people with nortons and all that kind of s*** on their phone, unless your doin dodgy stuff with it I wouldn't bother?
teq
Posts: 12943
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

because the company that made my phone are so good at knowing what I want, before I even know it, they have kindly included an app where I can login to https://www.icloud.com/ and type in my iTunes user/pass that is linked to my iPhone

instantly tells me where my phone is to the best of it's own A/GPS abilities
it is seriously awesome and it saves my mrs pretty regularly

for 'instant' security, ie someone picks it up off a table to go through it, I always have my screen locked and I have a password to unlock it
sure someone could take it away to a PC and find some way to unlock it, but by then I could have remotely wiped it using iCloud
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 3878
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
personlly i use F-Secure for my Anti-spyware/malware/AV needs, its better than anything on the Android market..

While google have pretty quick at removing malware from the android market you just never know.

because the company that made my phone are so good at knowing what I want, before I even know it, they have kindly included an app where I can login to https://www.icloud.com/ and type in my iTunes user/pass that is linked to my iPhone

instantly tells me where my phone is to the best of it's own A/GPS abilities
it is seriously awesome and it saves my mrs pretty regularly

for 'instant' security, ie someone picks it up off a table to go through it, I always have my screen locked and I have a password to unlock it
sure someone could take it away to a PC and find some way to unlock it, but by then I could have remotely wiped it using iCloud


guess this company never anticipated that people would also want remote wipe to deactivate iMessage in case where phone is stolen..

last edited by TufNuT at 16:29:59 19/May/12
Whoop
Posts: 19917
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Phone never leaves my sight so the only security is the sim lock that every phone has, no AV stuff on it although I probably should but meh, my contacts are backed up so if anything goes wrong I can just reflash it and restore from backups. I don't use my phone for internet banking or anything sensitive.
HerbalLizard
Posts: 5538
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just use one the mobile device management apps and if you are worried some form of mobile av

last edited by HerbalLizard at 16:50:34 19/May/12
copuis
Posts: 2761
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

blackberry for the win, hands down

that or a nokia 3310
Outlaw
Posts: 2057
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I use an old nokia
reload!
Posts: 6711
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
until I stop drinking, ie never, I will continue to purchase $89 nokias.
my last one flew out the window of a 3rd story apartment onto the street and was fine, didn't even turn off. every second iphone I see has a cracked screen or back from knocking it off the table.
pARODY
Posts: 1097
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use Preyproject for phone and laptop tracking and retrieval. I also have Lookout installed on my SGS2 and HTC Wildfire.
Murderer
Posts: 1874
Location: Tasmania

You can wipe any phone with a passcode / pin / pattern.

Its just a combination of buttons, including iphone.... If you do lose your phone, all you do is ring up and get it imei blocked. Then the handset cannot be used in the country on any network.

The amta website has an imei check, which tells you what date/network a phone was blocked. Although I have heard of a few people who know how to unblock an imei blocked phone (iphones only?)

As for iphone, all you do is wipe it, then put the location services off etc and then afaik the phone cannot be tracked.
iTOM
Posts: 1267
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
also +1 for preyproject on phone + laptop. log me in is installed as well but that's mainly for my laptop.

i would never use a password on my lockscreen. it's always on me, unless i lose it. if i was to lose it and it was locked, the finder owuld just wipe it and i'd be s*** out of luck. without the password, they use it and i gather a bunch of info about them and the location of the phone. obviously change passwords etc as soon as possible

ediT: i also use cerberus for tracking. maybe slightly better than preyproject but it's good to have them both. cerberus can take screenies/camera photos and has a lot more commands. sends updates/attachments to your email address

last edited by iTOM at 18:10:06 19/May/12
Spook
Posts: 33744
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
because the company that made my phone are so good at knowing what I want, before I even know it, they have kindly included an app where I can login to https://www.icloud.com/ and type in my iTunes user/pass that is linked to my iPhone

instantly tells me where my phone is to the best of it's own A/GPS abilities
it is seriously awesome and it saves my mrs pretty regularly

for 'instant' security, ie someone picks it up off a table to go through it, I always have my screen locked and I have a password to unlock it
sure someone could take it away to a PC and find some way to unlock it, but by then I could have remotely wiped it using iCloud


lulz, if i found an iphone and i wanted to steal it (which i woudlnt, because apple products are so s***) id just take the battery out of it, format it away from home and sell it on ebay for overseas

but yer, sure you go ahead and think your super phone is protected
Midda
Posts: 7866
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
id just take the battery out of it

Except Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decided that a removable battery would be a bad idea.
copuis
Posts: 2768
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

because the company that made my phone are so good at knowing what I want, before I even know it, they have kindly included an app where I can login to https://www.icloud.com/ and type in my iTunes user/pass that is linked to my iPhone

instantly tells me where my phone is to the best of it's own A/GPS abilities
it is seriously awesome and it saves my mrs pretty regularly

for 'instant' security, ie someone picks it up off a table to go through it, I always have my screen locked and I have a password to unlock it
sure someone could take it away to a PC and find some way to unlock it, but by then I could have remotely wiped it using iCloud



I didn't read this before, but you are f***ing pulling my leg right?, this is the same company that left massive holes, like siri being about to be used, even when the screen is locked, can you still plug it into itunes (not your own) and back it up?, thus giving you most of the data anyway?

it has taken apple four years of mistakes to get it to the level it is now, I bought my phone 4 years ago, and frankly it will email better, type better, and is vastly more secure than your iphone, you'll need to stop the apple preaching man, you might fool people into getting a product that could poke their eye out
Spook
Posts: 33745
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Except Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decided that a removable battery would be a bad idea.


remove battery/turn off phone
crazymorton
Posts: 3055
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

haven't ever had my own phone. work supplied since 1998 so didn't really care. if i lose it i get another.

as for malware etc i have never down loaded anything dodgy or jail broke anything so no issues for me
Spook
Posts: 33746
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haven't ever had my own phone. work supplied since 1998 so didn't really care. if i lose it i get another.

as for malware etc i have never down loaded anything dodgy or jail broke anything so no issues for me


yer, im the same.

the only time in my life ive actually had to pay for my own phone was when i lost my work phone in a cab after a xmas party and i needed a replacement phone for a few weeks

plus my s*** is locked down tight, so i cant have anything bad installed anyhow
Taipan
Posts: 3765
Location: USA
Interesting thoughts for someone such as myself. I dont leave tjis phone laying about so its highly unlikely someone will be able.to just strole by ans swipe it, but s*** does happen. I was looking at avast for protection and the reviews are pretty good but as usual with this kind of thing i tend to take people on qgl more seriously than random reviews.

If you guys have any more thoughts id be happy to hear them. Btw i have a Samsung galaxy note which i bought outright and unlocked of course.
Rdizz
Posts: 1940
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just have find my iphone on my ip4.. so if it ever gets stolen il just track it and wipe the phone.
no you hang up
Posts: 2072
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Adding passwords, and extra security just implies that one day you think you'll lose your phone. Chances are if you think like this, you will lose your phone.
Sip
Posts: 539
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Adding passwords, and extra security just implies that one day you think you'll lose your phone. Chances are if you think like this, you will lose your phone.


I add a password to mine because I work with smartasses who mess with my phone to troll me.
Whoop
Posts: 19921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Adding passwords, and extra security just implies that one day you think you'll lose your phone. Chances are if you think like this, you will lose your phone.

The last time I passworded my phone and a certain girl was trying to get into it, she almost bricked the phone by entering the wrong password too many times. What is it with girls wanting to go through your phone?
Taipan
Posts: 3766
Location: USA
Yeah whoop i know what you mean its like they are genetically programed to be nosey. Its the same as when a chick asks you what you are thinking when you arent actually thinking anything. You tell them nothing and they simply cant except that answer so they have to keep prying. There has to be something more sinister going on doesnt there.

I always found it odd actually that women would happily go through my s*** yet if i even glanced at their handbag theyd have a melt down. Strange how most guys generally respect their partners privacy bit girls tend not to.
copuis
Posts: 2769
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

its a trust thing taipan,

we should trust them, therefore if there is trust, we have no need to go thru their bag

they are just trying to confirm if they can trust us, not that they dont

(im sure that is how their brains work
exo
Posts: 9017
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Samsung Dive is pretty comprehensive for tracking/locking/wiping. Even tells you the phone number of the SIM currently in the device so you can call the bastard who stole it.
https://img.skitch.com/20120520-1b4579wqbr82dbdjqequpujb8b.jpg
Cheez
Posts: 633
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Windows Phone 7 has built in a function to ring, lock, erase or find your phone all from a website. It saves location every few hours and can do it more frequently if you want (at the cost of more battery being used.) Even if they somehow figure this out and try to turn the function off you need a password to do so. (Unlike the iPhone 4S my friend found at Supanova the other week, was completely unlocked and all he had to do was turn of the tracking function, no password needed. He later jailbroke it and it hasn't been bricked by serial but it can so he is not too thrilled to use it, but does as his other phone s*** itself the same day he found that.)
Rdizz
Posts: 1941
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cheez did it have nudes? if so post!!
do0b
Posts: 4317
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you can change the imei with the right software
Spook
Posts: 33747
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you can change the imei with the right software


no you cant. (well, definately cant change an iphone 4 imei)
do0b
Posts: 4318
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sure you can, on any phone, its just not exactly legal..
copuis
Posts: 2773
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

spook, you kidding, a quick google and http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?enid=657

imei changer for iphone 4s
Spook
Posts: 33748
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
give it a try and let me know how you go with that.
copuis
Posts: 2774
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

would never lower myself to own something that is more style than function,
FaceMan
Posts: 8851
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not own one.
Spook
Posts: 33749
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
would never lower myself to own a something that is more style than function


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Taipan
Posts: 3768
Location: USA
Exo i looked up samsung dive and all i have pretty much run into is bundles of people saying its not availble here in australia. Obviously some people have access to it and all its feature but a great many dont, are yiu able to shed any light on this?
exo
Posts: 9018
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

There wasn't any set-up for me, I just created a Samsung account on my phone and then used the same credentials to log into samsungdive.com
skythra
Posts: 5561
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

You can wipe any phone with a passcode / pin / pattern.

Its just a combination of buttons, including iphone.... If you do lose your phone, all you do is ring up and get it imei blocked. Then the handset cannot be used in the country on any network.

The amta website has an imei check, which tells you what date/network a phone was blocked. Although I have heard of a few people who know how to unblock an imei blocked phone (iphones only?)

As for iphone, all you do is wipe it, then put the location services off etc and then afaik the phone cannot be tracked.
Thanks to the fact that smart phoness are now so popular, imei blocking phones 1) doesn't stick because there are guids around for most kinds of phones on how to unlock that even kids can follow, or 2) you can just recover the data because that isn't secured by an imei lock.

At best you're saving phonecall bills.

Remote wiping won't happen if the perp is clever, if you find an iphone, or android, turnin it off and walking away removes it's ability to be remotely wiped. Removing it's sim helps for that too. Then all your data is intact.

Android has an option to encrypt all your data so that unless you get your pin right, you can't decrypt the data. That's a pretty good step forwards. But of course getting your pin wrong or forgetting it can mean total loss of your data there's no way to recover it.
Not own one.

Well, your smartphoe can potentially have no more data than your dumbphone. It's how you use it and what you put on it. So that while true, is only limiting the user, and i assume you have no self control if that's how you need to restrict your data from landing on your phone.
give it a try and let me know how you go with that.

Well, if your imei is wrong it could potentially cause some network problems, things like data mights stop working correctly or other things. So that'd be pretty bad advice, which is i assume what you mean. But then in that case the response is just pure bitterness of being wrong.
copuis
Posts: 2777
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

let me harp on it once more, blackberry solved all those issue before skythra, however you are correct that the work arounds are getting more easy/effective,
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 36207
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

So what are the options for Android (for those of us that don't have Samsung and can't use Dive)?

A quick look reveals Android Lost (free) and Where's my Droid? ($3.99). Anyone tried either? They both have pretty good reviews.
gamer
Posts: 2519
Location:
Android has an option to encrypt all your data so that unless you get your pin right, you can't decrypt the data. That's a pretty good step forwards. But of course getting your pin wrong or forgetting it can mean total loss of your data there's no way to recover it.


How do you enable that? I would love to do that on my droid ...

If I lose or forget the password then that's fine. I rather the chance that if someone takes my data they are unable to access it ... even if they immediately dc the battery/sim.
arkter
Posts: 772
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nokia-3310-1.jpg
Raven
Posts: 6901
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Antivirus on my phone?

Woman, please.
natslovR
Posts: 7773
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

I don't keylock my phone. If you are in an accident, emergency services will use your recent call list to find out about any health issues and contact your family.

See it all the time on that King Cross Emergency show.
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