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Topic: Raspberry Pi
mental
Posts: 2164
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2012/01/26/raspberry-pi-modders-dream-machine/1

It's a project to make a very cheap computer,’ Upton explained by way of background, ‘to make a computer for $25 without networking or $35 with. It was founded because we think that the lack of programmable hardware for children - the sort of hardware we used to have in the 1980s - is undermining the supply of eighteen year olds who know how to program, so that's a problem for universities, and then it's undermining the supply of 21 year olds who know how to program, and that's causing problems for industry.’


Thought this may interest a few of you.

edit by trog: official site is: http://www.raspberrypi.org/
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hardware
Posts: 9982
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have been following it's development for a while and i'll certainly be getting one when they are available.
Pinky
Posts: 12425
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

The price is what's interesting here. Pico-ITX motherboards are expensive, so I'm not sure how they are getting this down to $25.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 35540
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

This is also interesting - it runs XBMC!



I think I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation ones that have a case - I don't want to have to deal with innards dangling everywhere. But I definitely want one for a Linux box at home!
E.T.
Posts: 4193
Location: Queensland

They can run Apple TV as well as XBMC. This little thing is going to change the world yo!



I want one, or two. When can I get it?
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 35546
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

^ whoa. I didn't realise there was an AirPlay application thing you could just run on Linux. That is pretty neat.
E.T.
Posts: 4194
Location: Queensland

^ whoa. I didn't realise there was an AirPlay application thing you could just run on Linux. That is pretty neat.


Well, let me wet your appetite a bit more.

mental
Posts: 2166
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yeah at that price point I can think of a heap of things I would like to do with a couple of them, because if I can't get it to work, then I can just turn it into something else.
CHUB
Posts: 8470
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The whole idea brings a genuine smile to my face, I don't think they will achieve there grandiose shift in the way younger people use computers but it's still awesome.

I would snap a bunch of them up in an instant.
Pinky
Posts: 12427
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

But I don't believe it will ever be produced at the price point. Even if it's four times the price point it will still be a bargain though.
3x0dus
Posts: 1589
Location: Townsville, Queensland
Latest Xbmc build Eden has AirPlay built in.

Works well in appletv no longer have to crash out to normal appletv to watch AirPlay content
awsum
Posts: 10
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
OH yeah, these things look hot

I will be buying one for sure to see what I can do, being a bit of a computer enthusiast
teq
Posts: 12396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I too doubt they will end up being 35, even if they could mass produce them for less than that and make a profit for $35, supply and demand will likely see the price rise
can you even pre-order them at the moment? I first heard about them a month or two ago and even back then they weren't taking any orders
E.T.
Posts: 4198
Location: Queensland

Teq. This video has an interview with the product leader, Eben Upton which answers a lot of your questions.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/01/17/0014220/raspberry-pi-25-linux-computer-now-in-production-video#ooid=ltdHVhMzoz8Az_p59sauYWFf-URBIZvJ
teq
Posts: 12397
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

..indeed it does.
mental
Posts: 2589
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come to www.raspberrypi.org to find out what’s going on.
dranged
Posts: 1980
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
cases will be sold separately

I will be getting the 256M/2xUSB/Ethernet Pi. $35 USD!
greazy
Posts: 5237
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Just announce you damned retards. f*** this s***. If you have something to say, SAY IT, don't plan to say it by saying you will say it tomorrow.
Hogfather
Posts: 12023
Location: Cairns, Queensland

Just announce you damned retards. f*** this s***. If you have something to say, SAY IT, don't plan to say it by saying you will say it tomorrow.

This is not how it works.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 12368
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
XBMC, HMDI output, runs HD video... I'll buy it for sure. I know heaps of people that would like a media player but don't want to spend $100+ for one.

greazy
Posts: 5238
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

This is not how it works.

This is how it should work.
mental
Posts: 2591
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Computer lockable gun cabinet like in the resident evil movie, home security controller, etc (with the gertboard: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pis-gertboard-expansion-board-already-works-video-2012019/)
tspec
Posts: 3393
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I think I'm going to wait for the 2nd generation ones that have a case - I don't want to have to deal with innards dangling everywhere. But I definitely want one for a Linux box at home!

This is probably the closest alternative atm that comes with a case, though a fair bit more expensive. Presumably they'd have to drop their prices if Raspberry Pi is competing at a fraction of the price, time will tell.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 12369
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They will be selling cases soon after release Trog.
Hogfather
Posts: 12024
Location: Cairns, Queensland

This is how it should work.
Lots of things work otherwise than how we would personally like them to.

I'm not going to explain why they are doing a staged info release because you already know how that works.
They will be selling cases soon after release Trog.

Surely they'll be available on ebay for 2 bucks a pop straight outta Hong Kong?
andrewus
Posts: 2665
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I saw this coming the other day & didn't post because I am a greedy selfish person who wants all the raspberry pi goodness all to himself.

Although I plan on ordering one in 25 minutes on the site as soon as its available - with only ~10,000 in the first batch, it will be easily sold out.

The way the website is getting smashed at the moment it will be easy to miss today's first batch sale.
Raven
Posts: 6554
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah, site is getting smaaaaashed. It's gonna be like trying to get one of the Penny Arcade CTS cels :/
andrewus
Posts: 2666
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Also remember everyone..

www.raspberrypi.org is the website blog

www.raspberrypi.com is the online store which the purchase will be available from.
andrewus
Posts: 2668
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

lol just hit refresh and the world may end before the page loads.

Announcing the sale was poor form - left themselves open to trashing their webserver bandwidth...
dranged
Posts: 1981
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
site is live
andrewus
Posts: 2669
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

500 internal server error is all I see :(
kappa
Posts: 1834
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Lol all associated getting drilled.
andrewus
Posts: 2670
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

first to link to the actual buy page wins the award!
TicMan
Posts: 7783
Location: Melbourne, Victoria


How to Buy
The Raspberry Pi is available at either Premier Farnell or RS Components. Search for Raspberry Pi, and then follow the normal shopping and checkout process.


If anyone manages to get to an order page, please pick me one up. KTHKBI
andrewus
Posts: 2671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

can't help but feel this is going to end badly - with me in tears. haha.. come awwn!!!
andrewus
Posts: 2672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2101+204200&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=raspberry+pi&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial

edit: at the checkout but registration page won't even load up .. not winning
tspec
Posts: 3394
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Store is now down for maintenance. Must be run by the same people that look after Ticketmaster.
natslovR
Posts: 7662
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Everything timing out makes it much easier to resist the urge to purchase.
andrewus
Posts: 2673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

farnell sold out already - although I don't know how.

I did manage to order 2 from farnell although unsure if this was before raspberrypi twittered that they were sold out.

Like exemplar below, no confirmation email.
eXemplar
Posts: 2716
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I ordered 10 from element14 and it seemed to accept and confirm the order ok, but I've yet to receive any confirmation email (assuming they don't charge CC until the order is processed).
andrewus
Posts: 2675
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Just got confirmation email from farnell. Availability: Awaiting Delivery.

One would assume I missed out & get stuck with paying and waiting for the next batch.
andrewus
Posts: 2676
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

RS website seems to be working fine now - however I can't for the life of me find the raspberry pi for sale on it.
natslovR
Posts: 7663
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I thought I read one per person for this first batch
eXemplar
Posts: 2717
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought I read one per person for this first batch

Yeah, I read that on the raspberrypi website too, but element14 let me place the order with 10. Worst case scenario I don't get them for a month.
andrewus
Posts: 2677
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

from rasperrypi.org

Why are we using a licensed manufacture model?...
The involvement of RS Components and Premier Farnell means that we can build volume much, much faster than would have been possible on our own. We are no longer limited to batches of only 10k Raspberry Pis; the Raspberry Pi will now be being built to match demand.
mental
Posts: 2594
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Na, that was one per person minimum order in the faq.

After all that my ex broke down and it looks like I've missed out. FUUUUUUUUU.
kos
Posts: 1969
Location: Germany

Na, that was one per person minimum order in the faq.

Minimum one order per person? They'll make a fortune! What's 7 billion times $25?!
mental
Posts: 2598
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Well with some places you have to minimum order 5+, and I don't think they are in it for the phat loot, looks like UK education might be planning something with Raspberry Pi and good old BBC( Acorn):

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2012/02/16/bbc-micro-2/1
mental
Posts: 2643
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=2081185

Further stock available in 38 days


http://australia.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Nathan
Posts: 3970
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Kind of amazing how popular this thing is (or at least, how they're struggling to keep up with demand)
simul
Posts: 1331
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Kind of amazing how popular this thing is (or at least, how they're struggling to keep up with demand)


Not that amazing, the amount of arduino playing has exploded in the last few years, + theres a heap of people who are planning on using these for computer replacement tasks (honestly I think those people should wait because they will most likely be disappointed).
mental
Posts: 2648
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

When paired with the Gertboard you have a lot more options which is what I'm more interested in.
mental
Posts: 2689
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://marcoalici.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/raspberry-pi-case_05d.jpg

http://marcoalici.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/me-and-the-raspberrypi-2/
Superform
Posts: 7249
Location: Netherlands
i want one
unclebobsticle
Posts: 132
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
Looks good, I finally bothered to order one today. prolly wont see it for another 2 to 3 months. Cheap and fun, cant complain!

mental
Posts: 2691
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm going to wait until the gertboard is out and get a couple of both.
$ack
Posts: 1430
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Price update out: AU$54.75
skythra
Posts: 5275
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Wherefrom?
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 35833
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

That case looks great. Can't wait to see what people do with these.
greazy
Posts: 5275
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Probably stuff like PirateBox http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox which is itself a really cool idea.
mental
Posts: 2720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

They are so small and yet powerful I am going to implant one in my body with a multitude of sensors and servo's.
If my head is cleft clean from my body the servos will open my mouth in sync with an mp3 of me saying "My Dad always said I'd loose my head if it wasn't bolted on", if my time comes naturally than it will erect my penis and clamp my hand upon it with such strength they will not be able to loosen my death grip at the mortuary. I will also be able to upload stats from my body to my computer and a variety of other functions will be swiftly explored and invoked.
mental
Posts: 2770
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Another use for the Raspberry Pi from the pirate bay

https://thepiratebay.se/blog/210

With the development of GPS controlled drones, far-reaching cheap radio equipment and tiny new computers like the Raspberry Pi, we're going to experiment with sending out some small drones that will float some kilometers up in the air. This way our machines will have to be shut down with aeroplanes in order to shut down the system. A real act of war.

We're just starting so we haven't figured everything out yet. But we can't limit ourselves to hosting things just on land anymore. These Low Orbit Server Stations (LOSS) are just the first attempt. With modern radio transmitters we can get over 100Mbps per node up to 50km away. For the proxy system we're building, that's more than enough.


Or early April Fools?
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 12431
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Awaiting news item of drone falls from sky and kills someone owners arrested.
mental
Posts: 2925
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Update:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/978

Raspberry Pi has finally passed compliance testing in the UK, they have also passed America's FCC and Australia's CTick.

A cute story. Radiated immunity testing involves hitting the Raspberry Pi hard with narrow-band EM radiation, while checking (amongst many other things) that the device is still able to send Ethernet frames to a hub. The first time the team did this, the light on the hub stopped blinking: no frames were making it through. They did it again: still nothing. Finally, they discovered that the hub (which, I should point out, gave every appearance of being CE marked, so it should have been able to get through these tests itself) was being knocked out every time somebody pressed the button. Jimmy used a longer cable, put the hub outside the field, and found that the Raspberry Pi got through its immunity tests with no problems at all.
eXemplar
Posts: 2734
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So when are they fkn shipping
mental
Posts: 3020
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

With the Raspberry Pi now shipping


Outside of the Raspberry Pi Foundation, it seems work is being done to support the tiny PC with add-ons. One of the companies set to launch such a product is Adafruit, which has just announced an electronics plate kit for the device.


http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-gets-an-electronics-prototyping-plate-kit-20120427/

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/adafruit_rasppi_kit.jpg
Pinky
Posts: 13115
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Looks like it already has a big brand competitor...

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/127903-watch-out-raspberry-pi-intel-unveils-ultra-small-next-unit-of-computing-pc
Fish
Posts: 2978
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^ that seems to target a different kind of use case.
If I wanted something small, relatively powerful, and cheap for something like sensor data processing and logging, I'd use a Raspberry Pi.
Something that's supposed to act a bit more like a computer, maybe the Intel NUC.
IVY_MiKe
Posts: 983
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Has any Ausgamers/QGL member actually picked one of these up yet?

...or is this rapidly becoming the 'great white whale' of the 21st century?
mental
Posts: 3022
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

They've only recently been cleared after compliance testing and are starting to ship properly now. I myself am waiting until the Gertboard is also shipping and getting everything all at once.
Obes
Posts: 9634
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I should have one before June ... apparently ...
DecayingCorpse
Posts: 1992
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i'd like one to replace a dodgy acryan media box...

i would sacrifice some size to have all the connectors on the one side tho.
andrewus
Posts: 2725
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I will need to check my credit card statement but I am relatively sure I paid for 2 of these from element14 on launch day..

have not heard a thing or received an email since.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 12608
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I want to get a couple (lol more then 2) of these as xbmc media players.
kr0wb4r
Posts: 1177
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
we ordered two at work and they came last week. we aren't allowed to play with them yet until after we finish all this stuff we have to do atm.
Triamks
Posts: 3494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I want to get a couple (lol more then 2) of these as xbmc media players.


than*
IVY_MiKe
Posts: 996
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

I look forward to hearing what you've gotta say about em kr0wb4r!

I'm interested, but yea... unsure how much work has gotta go into em to 'make something' of them.
andrewus
Posts: 2764
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I forgot I ordered this thing but here it is on my desk this morning.

Although I ordered 2 and the delivery says QTY 2 .. there is only 1

Now what to do with the little sucker lol
jesu
Posts: 698
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I forgot I ordered this thing but here it is on my desk this morning.

Although I ordered 2 and the delivery says QTY 2 .. there is only 1

Now what to do with the little sucker lol

Did you get just the board? I heard there was a cased version they were doing...
Also, apparently a Debian 6 remix was done for it as well as the Fedora developed by Raspberry Pie foundation.
TicMan
Posts: 8021
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Where can you order this tasty bit of computing from?
Denominator
Posts: 946
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Element 14

I have had one for a month now they bring back memories of slow computing
andrewus
Posts: 2765
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

yeh doesnt phase me if they are slow.

i am more interested in performance of an RDP session. maybe a thin client?
thermite
Posts: 9704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My micro ITX HTPC is a beast compared to this and it is frustratingly slow. I can't imagine a media center on a Raspberry Pi, but for me that would be the ultimate goal. Does anyone have any reviews of people actually doing this? It would be brilliant to stick one of these behind a wall mounted television, but if making it 2 or 3 times bigger gives it more juice and still fits back there, then that would be better.
kr0wb4r
Posts: 1190
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I look forward to hearing what you've gotta say about em kr0wb4r!


Heh - weeks later and they're still in their little plastic sleeves on the lunch table.

No time for fun around here. =/
mental
Posts: 3202
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Did you get just the board? I heard there was a cased version they were doing...


Yeah, that's I'm waiting for the gertboard and modules to be released and get it as a bundle, or at least at the same time... still patiently waiting.
jesu
Posts: 699
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yeah, that's I'm waiting for the gertboard and modules to be released and get it as a bundle, or at least at the same time... still patiently waiting.

Hadn't seen any of this on my internet travels. Very interesting.

Also found some other cool ideas:
Similar Intel prototype of tiny computer
The PirateBox
PirateBoxLive - live boot disk
Dead Drops - USB drives cemented in walls - world map of dead drops (~5 in AU)
Forban
Pinky
Posts: 13232
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

http://marcoalici.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/me-and-the-raspberrypi-2/

Holy crap, mental - how good are those Blender/Yafray renders!? I thought it was a real physical case.

Anyone see any particularly good idea for Raspberry Pi that suits the particular form factor/processing requirement well?
andrewus
Posts: 2767
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I will just take this opportunity to say they are slow as all hell in a GUI environment.

And I would really like to express SLOW.

I thought it would pass as a little rdp machine, logging into Xeon hardware but it really is unusable. I cant imagine anyone using one of these day to day let alone as a media center or

They really are for what they say, teaching kids basic programming and Linux fundamentals.

If you didn't need a GUI, it would probably run fine as a little FTP server? Although the Ethernet card sucks as it isnt gig.
I am sure I can find a use for the little bugger, stay tuned.
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