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Topic: Gillard and Abbott accosted and rescued by bodyguards
Superform
Posts: 7222
Location: Netherlands
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/01/26/1226254/424404-julia-gillard.jpg

this is pretty terrible on Australia day.. makes Aussies look like a bunch of wankers.

I agree with the sentiments here
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DeadlyDav0
Posts: 1468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

So wish he was coping a feel. That would been lols.
ctd
Posts: 9786
Location: UK
australia day is a lot nicer when abroad
DM
Posts: 4108
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
From that photo it looks like abbott is being held back because he wants to attack her.
Infidel
Posts: 3861
Location: Netherlands

Yup its made the dutch news. http://nos.nl/artikel/334453-australische-premier-vlucht-voor-activisten.html
Superform
Posts: 7223
Location: Netherlands
i saw the video and it seems a bit over the top.. but they have to balance protecting the head of state with a rowdy mob.. which could turn violent at any time

its funny that no one was arrested.. in the US they would have all been mowed down with uzis
FraktuRe
Posts: 3998
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
The reason they were protesting is pretty f***ing stupid.
Timmeh
Posts: 1802
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I thought the police under reacted. Compared to the protection other heads of state get/deserve.
SwissCM
Posts: 164
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
This forum is full of f***ing bigots.
Superform
Posts: 7225
Location: Netherlands
its easy to mask the actions of criminals behind slandering those who would stand against those actions.

attacking a dignitary is pretty disrespectful to decent Australians

play your race card elsewhere
Superform
Posts: 7226
Location: Netherlands
I guess this guy is a bigot too?

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Mick Gooda has sided with authorities, saying he is appalled at the level of disrespect and aggression shown towards the two leaders. "An aggressive, divisive and frightening protest such as this has no place in debates about the affairs of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples or in any circumstances," Mr Gooda said. "While we need to acknowledge that there's a real anger, frustration and hurt that exists in some Indigenous communities around Australia, we must not give in to aggressive and disrespectful actions ourselves." Mr Gooda says the actions of the protesters went too far. "The point could have been made more peacefully and respectfully," he said. "It is particularly distressing that this has occurred at a time when we are so close to moving towards cementing respect for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in our constitution."
thermite
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

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FaceMan
Posts: 8173
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Seems like an overreaction ?

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201293/gillard729-420x0.jpg


SwissCM
Posts: 165
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
After centuries of abuse by the government, people are still surprised that the natives of this island are still pissed off? It was only a few years ago that the federal government had a censorship and prohibition policy that explicitly targeted aborigines for no other reason other that it offended white mans moral sensibilities (while still allowing white man to indulge in such behaviours of course).

You're right, what we're doing now isn't working, but what the far-right will do is even worse.
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teq
Posts: 12377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It was only a few years ago that the federal government had a censorship and prohibition policy that explicitly targeted aborigines


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qmass
Posts: 10282
Location: Queensland

the cops did more damage to julia than the protesters would of, what a beat up.
Zakson
Posts: 59
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
australia day is a lot nicer when abroad

We had a BBQ and played beach cricket, extended a welcome to both old and new neighbours. No fights, no drama.

What did you do?
Nerfy
Posts: 5289
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Moist you cite the racist card on every single god-damn issue, and you demonstrably are racist.
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 5206
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The video I saw had a few people out front of the restaurant, then heaps of police and security surrounding Gillard heading for the car. Apart from media I didn't see anyone else until the car drove away.
Raven
Posts: 6430
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
f***em. Aboriginal or not, if you want to set up a protest that physically puts a head of state or elected person at threat, let them use lethal force.
Kimbo
Posts: 448
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

This also begs the question. Who actually was being violent and causing distress, it takes one to start the mob mentality.

Here is another thing I want you men/women/children to think about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-General_of_Australia - Look who the latest governor general is (Nichola Roxon)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/nicola-roxon-is-nations-first-female-attorney-general-in-cabinet-reshuffle/story-fn7x8me2-1226219447991

http://theconversation.edu.au/vive-la-republique-why-nicola-roxons-push-for-constitutional-reform-needs-supporters-4750
- See what Nichola is doing.

http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/referendum-1967.html - Look at the constitution and where the original inhabitants have been included into it.

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/clac_ctte/pbs_medicines/info.htm
- More 'drugs' needed for indigenous people which needs to be written into 'law'.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/nicola-roxon-has-embraced-politically-correctness-by-promising-new-laws-will-be-scrutinised-to-meet-the-un-standard/story-e6frezz0-1226238881894 - Got to have laws that meet the United Nations standard for human rights.

https://theconversation.edu.au/roxon-got-it-right-we-dont-need-a-bill-of-rights-because-weve-already-got-one-4721

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-27/indigenous-leaders-condemn-27disgraceful27-protesters/3795458
- Finally look at what the actual indigenous leaders are actually saying. (But I don't think these are actual aboriginal tribal elders)

It is about getting native people more included in 'our system' but as usual there needs to be a reaction first from the general public first to have anything 'changed' and afterall, we all can attribute the daily ridiculous laws that keep getting passed, when the original people of Australia already had their own law system, here, originally. Now as to whether the supposed "aboriginal leaders" are representative of "actual tribal elders". I wouldn't think so.
dazedandconfused
Posts: 540
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

By the video it looked much more like the cops and bodyguards thinking they were far tougher than they actually were. Half the crowd were elderly women for f***s sake.

f***em. Aboriginal or not, if you want to set up a protest that physically puts a head of state or elected person at threat, let them use lethal force.


So you'd be perfectly fine with the cops gunning down everyone at that protest? I don't agree with the protesters at all but a part of a free society is your right to assembly. Your comment looks more like something you'd see in Syria.
simul
Posts: 1291
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-General_of_Australia - Look who the latest governor general is (Nichola Roxon)


Attorney General != Governor General.
Kaizer
Posts: 16
Location: Queensland

Those pictures of Juliar being carried like a big red haired football were some of the funniest pictures ever, she has all the grace of a camel.
The AFP totally miss-managed the situation by letting the protesters so close to the building that both the liars were in, they were bashing on the windows ffs.
To protest you really don't need to be so close as to be a physical threat to the idiot you're abusing and the protesters should have backed off when they realised the police had lost the plot.

They have her shoe too and are prepared to give it back to her personally.
hardware
Posts: 9977
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah i came in to post that the governor-general and the attorney general are two completely different people and positions.
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 19761
Location: Wynnum, Queensland

LOL

That didn't look dangerous at all. Almost looks like it's staged.
CHUB
Posts: 8468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol, strong overreaction for no reason.

Good on the protesters, I'm all for anything that makes a politicians day harder or uncomfortable.
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

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Outlaw
Posts: 1238
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

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m3nt4l
Posts: 2156
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm more interested in how Mr Abott's comment was portrayed in the Radio station they were listening to.
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 3750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its funny that no one was arrested.. in the US they would have all been mowed down with uzis


i agree i think it was a real under reaction by the police.. at the very least the riot police should have been busting some heads open.

p.s. i cant stand either the rangga or abbot but that doesnt change the fact that we are talking about the head of state.

last edited by TufNuT at 10:19:33 27/Jan/12
infi
Posts: 18334
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

but what the far-right will do is even worse.


Please expand on this trite one-liner.
deadlyf
Posts: 2390
Location: Queensland

That looked retarded. The only people hassling them were the media. Hell the cops shoved each other more than they shoved anyone else.
dazedandconfused
Posts: 541
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

i agree i think it was a real under reaction by the police.. at the very least the riot police should have been busting some heads open.

p.s. i cant stand either the rangga or abbot but that doesnt change the fact that we are talking about the head of state.last edited by TufNuT at 10:19:33 27/Jan/12

It's no surprise you have the opinion that cops should be physically assaulting people when you also display the kind of ignorance of the governmental system in this country that you just did.
straw hat hippie
Posts: 346
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Can someone summarize how the aboriginies are still being hard done by as opposed to just being wingers and can someone summarize what it would take to make them happy as larry.
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 3751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's no surprise you have the opinion that cops should be physically assaulting people when you also display the kind of ignorance of the governmental system in this country that you just did.


explain.. why because, i called gillard head of state instead of PM? you are correct though i dont fully understand the governmental system, but its irrelevant in this situation im not commenting on each government policy (or maybe i am). either way any other country this would have never been allowed to happen..



last edited by TufNuT at 12:03:47 27/Jan/12
Fixah
Posts: 6979
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/01/26/1226254/424404-julia-gillard.jpg

The first thing i thought when i saw this picture is since when could Gillard afford Jason Statham as a body guard? look at him he's doing the whole "don't worry i'll save you!" pose an all!
thermite
Posts: 8802
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
An aboriginal is seen wearing one shoe, and a passer-by says "Did you lose a shoe mate?".

"Nope, found one!"

FaceMan
Posts: 8179
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ravn0s
Posts: 14411
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dazedandconfused
Posts: 542
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

explain.. why because, i called gillard head of state instead of PM? you are correct though i dont fully understand the governmental system, but its irrelevant in this situation im not commenting on each government policy (or maybe i am). either way any other country this would have never been allowed to happen..

last edited by TufNuT at 12:03:47 27/Jan/12

Gillard isn't the head of state.

And what actually happened? All I can see is some people that were allowed for some reason to protest against the glass wall of the building and then what appeared to be an overreaction to a non-issue with Gillard being dragged down the stairs by some security guards and cops saying "stay back" to people with cameras.
Captain Lateral
Posts: 4352
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well, the yearly overreaction to labels is over. what did we learn?

I learnt that our PM makes a useful football, probably the most useful I've seen her yet.

I also learnt that tony abbot still manages to look smug even while being manhandled by security.
fade
Posts: 7304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It was unacceptable behaviour from the mob and utterly counterproductive to their cause.

fools.
FaceMan
Posts: 8182
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ms Gillard said she didn't believe the events yesterday would hamper progress toward the recognition of
Indigenous Australians in the Constitution.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/aboriginal-tent-embassy-protesters-say-we-did-nothing-wrong/story-e6frfku0-1226255371136#ixzz1kczB8yHP


There it is again.
The Government (with a pathological Liar as a Leader) wants to play with the Constitution ONLY to benefit Native Australians ?

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/407dd615e2beb65d75058700380d08e9/l.gif

nah theres something else going on here.

Agamemnon
Posts: 975
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Who ever has the show and hasnt returned it should be charged with Steal by find!
Damo
Posts: 5884
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8409852/200-activists-march-on-parliament-house

Protesters have set fire to an Australian flag at the entrance of Parliament House as they called for Aboriginal sovereignty over Australia.


http://images.ninemsn.com.au/resizer.aspx?url=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2011/national/2701_flag_a.jpg&width=310

Nice bunch of people they are.
m3nt4l
Posts: 2160
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Black Australia? White Australia? How about just Australia?
Shaexen
Posts: 301
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

This is what happens when you recognize conquered people, relations don't improve it just becomes a justification for dissent and disunity.

Would've been good if they got the PM or abbot, racist firestorms are my favourite.
infi
Posts: 18339
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

And now it's revealed one of the PM's staffers leaked Abbott's location, which provoked the protest. WELL DONE
Superform
Posts: 7227
Location: Netherlands
they called for Aboriginal sovereignty over Australia.


i never understand this bit.. they are Australians.. and Australians have sovereignty over Australia.. problem?
FaceMan
Posts: 8186
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Clearly this can only be solved by some ppl from the Cronulla Tribe burning an Abbo flag.

ravn0s
Posts: 14412
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so were any of those "protesters" arrested for burning the flag?

edit: never mind, just googled that it's not illegal.

last edited by ravn0s at 23:32:23 27/Jan/12
Trauma
Posts: 2234
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Black Australia? White Australia? How about just Australia?

I don't think the 'Aboriginal Parliament' would go for it.
Eorl
Posts: 5078
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I understand the legitimacy of pure aboriginals, they have been introduced to a society they aren't use to/don't know how to cope with, and thus have invoked huge problems. But what I don't like is the 0.000001% "Aboriginals" that try to claim they are Aboriginal and should therefore benefit from the terrible history of their ancestors or "pure" Aboriginals.
dazedandconfused
Posts: 543
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

I understand the legitimacy of pure aboriginals, they have been introduced to a society they aren't use to/don't know how to cope with, and thus have invoked huge problems. But what I don't like is the 0.000001% "Aboriginals" that try to claim they are Aboriginal and should therefore benefit from the terrible history of their ancestors or "pure" Aboriginals.

It's only city slicker Aboriginals that do this. I knew many Aboriginals from the country and all of them were either townspeople with jobs or occasionally lived on Aboriginal heritage land.

These clowns burning the Australian flag are upstart city slickers on welfare that burn the flag with one hand while cashing to dole cheque with the other.
Jc_23
Posts: 409
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dazed is a little extreme I suppose but he is very cluey and racism directly opposes this notion. :)


Buh-boom. :(
Outlaw
Posts: 1252
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

What I don't get is.. What did the PM's Adviser have to gain from telling a mob of abo's the PM's next door. Surely the abo's have nothing of value and if he wants the PM to lose the next election wouldnt that be bad for him also?
ravn0s
Posts: 14413
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

What I don't get is.. What did the PM's Adviser have to gain from telling a mob of abo's the PM's next door.


he told them that abbott was there. they were pissed off with abbott because they misinterpreted something he said.
Outlaw
Posts: 1255
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

he told them that abbott was there. they were pissed off with abbott because they misinterpreted something he said.

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What did the PM's Adviser have to gain
ara
Posts: 3431
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

What I don't get is.. What did the PM's Adviser have to gain from telling a mob of abo's the PM's next door. Surely the abo's have nothing of value and if he wants the PM to lose the next election wouldnt that be bad for him also?


he told them Abbot was there because they were upset with Abbot's comment on the radio. unfortunately when they saw Gillard they thought it would be much better to protest there and they all moved across.

i think in his naive head, he expected them to protest at abbot and cheer for gillard or something and i think labor is desperate to have anyone cheer for them atm.
Outlaw
Posts: 1257
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

I still don't understand what Gillards adviser was hoping to gain from this. He ended up being fired, making Gillard look even worse and abbott even better. Plus stiring up the whole abo=retards thing again.
FaceMan
Posts: 8188
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It was surprising how many ppl turned up so quickly.
I guess they had mobiles and word spread quickly.

I think the Staffer was hoping it would look bad for Abbott but the Abbos were angry at both sides of Politics.
Hogfather
Posts: 11762
Location: Cairns, Queensland

I still don't understand what Gillards adviser was hoping to gain from this. He ended up being fired, making Gillard look even worse and abbott even better. Plus stiring up the whole abo=retards thing again.

That's what happened, but not what he was after.

The tent embassy guys were enraged that Abbott had mentioned that it might be time they moved on. They had no beef with Gillard, so he was probably after an Australia Day sound byte of Abbott being abused by a bunch of aborigines. The ALP probably feels like they are on safe territory on the issue given that they did the whole apology etc.

It would have made Abbott look like a loose cannon jerk, ignited some commentary on the embassy and reconciliation which is an issue the Government has a lot of resonance with their core constituency. They would have had an opportunity to be all left wing and compassionate and assure the embassy that they were going nowhere, bang on about the apology and the good work being done and plans for the blah blah blah.

Labor needs to shore up their primary vote by doing (or appearing to do) some left wing s***. There was also the opportunity for the PM to stand up and be all prime ministerial and reassuring to the mob having a go at Abbott.

Instead they got a riot and had to run away. Epic backfire.
FaceMan
Posts: 8189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They had no beef with Gillard


The problem is White Man Government.
Gillard and Abbott are two heads of the same beast.
Left or Right nothing seems to change.



infi
Posts: 18341
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^ You need to try harder, that was almost an haiku.
Hogfather
Posts: 11763
Location: Cairns, Queensland

f***, thanks infi, I almost replied to that ><
DocterMoist
Posts: 273
Location:

Kim Sattler stirred up the race riot with untrue statements and false comments that Tony Abbot didn't even say. Then she stood behind the rioters with a massive troll face, a grin from ear to ear.

This is typical labor tricks.

http://pic.twitter.com/g0OTB72z
FaceMan
Posts: 8201
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Gillard prolly did know what was going on.
But lets be honest, the Woman has a credibility problem with the Truth.

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/gala.jpg

The Woman just needs to resign.
paveway
Posts: 16184
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
tbh it just looked like old matey wanted an excuse to drop the shoulder into the PM
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