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Superform
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http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/01/26/1226254/424404-julia-gillard.jpg
this is pretty terrible on Australia day.. makes Aussies look like a bunch of wankers. I agree with the sentiments here |
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DeadlyDav0
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So wish he was coping a feel. That would been lols. |
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| #1 12:13am 27/01/12 |
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ctd
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australia day is a lot nicer when abroad
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| #2 12:32am 27/01/12 |
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DM
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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From that photo it looks like abbott is being held back because he wants to attack her.
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| #3 12:33am 27/01/12 |
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Infidel
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Yup its made the dutch news. http://nos.nl/artikel/334453-australische-premier-vlucht-voor-activisten.html |
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| #4 12:33am 27/01/12 |
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Superform
Posts: 7223
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i saw the video and it seems a bit over the top.. but they have to balance protecting the head of state with a rowdy mob.. which could turn violent at any time
its funny that no one was arrested.. in the US they would have all been mowed down with uzis |
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| #5 12:36am 27/01/12 |
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FraktuRe
Posts: 3998
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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The reason they were protesting is pretty f***ing stupid.
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| #6 12:42am 27/01/12 |
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Timmeh
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought the police under reacted. Compared to the protection other heads of state get/deserve. |
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| #7 12:47am 27/01/12 |
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SwissCM
Posts: 164
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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This forum is full of f***ing bigots.
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| #8 01:07am 27/01/12 |
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Superform
Posts: 7225
Location: Netherlands
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its easy to mask the actions of criminals behind slandering those who would stand against those actions.
attacking a dignitary is pretty disrespectful to decent Australians play your race card elsewhere |
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| #9 01:13am 27/01/12 |
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Superform
Posts: 7226
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I guess this guy is a bigot too?
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Mick Gooda has sided with authorities, saying he is appalled at the level of disrespect and aggression shown towards the two leaders. "An aggressive, divisive and frightening protest such as this has no place in debates about the affairs of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples or in any circumstances," Mr Gooda said. "While we need to acknowledge that there's a real anger, frustration and hurt that exists in some Indigenous communities around Australia, we must not give in to aggressive and disrespectful actions ourselves." Mr Gooda says the actions of the protesters went too far. "The point could have been made more peacefully and respectfully," he said. "It is particularly distressing that this has occurred at a time when we are so close to moving towards cementing respect for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in our constitution." |
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| #10 01:23am 27/01/12 |
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thermite
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Reason: racist bulls*** |
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#11 02:56pm 27/01/12
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FaceMan
Posts: 8173
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Seems like an overreaction ?
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201293/gillard729-420x0.jpg |
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| #12 01:30am 27/01/12 |
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SwissCM
Posts: 165
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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After centuries of abuse by the government, people are still surprised that the natives of this island are still pissed off? It was only a few years ago that the federal government had a censorship and prohibition policy that explicitly targeted aborigines for no other reason other that it offended white mans moral sensibilities (while still allowing white man to indulge in such behaviours of course).
You're right, what we're doing now isn't working, but what the far-right will do is even worse. |
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| #13 01:35am 27/01/12 |
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DocterMoist
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Reason: racist bulls*** |
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teq
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It was only a few years ago that the federal government had a censorship and prohibition policy that explicitly targeted aborigines wut |
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| #15 01:51am 27/01/12 |
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qmass
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Location: Queensland
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the cops did more damage to julia than the protesters would of, what a beat up. |
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| #16 01:53am 27/01/12 |
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Zakson
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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australia day is a lot nicer when abroad We had a BBQ and played beach cricket, extended a welcome to both old and new neighbours. No fights, no drama. What did you do? |
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| #17 02:06am 27/01/12 |
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Nerfy
Posts: 5289
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Moist you cite the racist card on every single god-damn issue, and you demonstrably are racist. |
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| #18 02:35am 27/01/12 |
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Tanaka Khan
Posts: 5206
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The video I saw had a few people out front of the restaurant, then heaps of police and security surrounding Gillard heading for the car. Apart from media I didn't see anyone else until the car drove away. |
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| #19 06:20am 27/01/12 |
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Raven
Posts: 6430
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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f***em. Aboriginal or not, if you want to set up a protest that physically puts a head of state or elected person at threat, let them use lethal force.
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| #20 07:11am 27/01/12 |
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Kimbo
Posts: 448
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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This also begs the question. Who actually was being violent and causing distress, it takes one to start the mob mentality. Here is another thing I want you men/women/children to think about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-General_of_Australia - Look who the latest governor general is (Nichola Roxon) http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/nicola-roxon-is-nations-first-female-attorney-general-in-cabinet-reshuffle/story-fn7x8me2-1226219447991 http://theconversation.edu.au/vive-la-republique-why-nicola-roxons-push-for-constitutional-reform-needs-supporters-4750 - See what Nichola is doing. http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/referendum-1967.html - Look at the constitution and where the original inhabitants have been included into it. http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/clac_ctte/pbs_medicines/info.htm - More 'drugs' needed for indigenous people which needs to be written into 'law'. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/nicola-roxon-has-embraced-politically-correctness-by-promising-new-laws-will-be-scrutinised-to-meet-the-un-standard/story-e6frezz0-1226238881894 - Got to have laws that meet the United Nations standard for human rights. https://theconversation.edu.au/roxon-got-it-right-we-dont-need-a-bill-of-rights-because-weve-already-got-one-4721 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-27/indigenous-leaders-condemn-27disgraceful27-protesters/3795458 - Finally look at what the actual indigenous leaders are actually saying. (But I don't think these are actual aboriginal tribal elders) It is about getting native people more included in 'our system' but as usual there needs to be a reaction first from the general public first to have anything 'changed' and afterall, we all can attribute the daily ridiculous laws that keep getting passed, when the original people of Australia already had their own law system, here, originally. Now as to whether the supposed "aboriginal leaders" are representative of "actual tribal elders". I wouldn't think so. |
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| #21 07:32am 27/01/12 |
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dazedandconfused
Posts: 540
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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By the video it looked much more like the cops and bodyguards thinking they were far tougher than they actually were. Half the crowd were elderly women for f***s sake. f***em. Aboriginal or not, if you want to set up a protest that physically puts a head of state or elected person at threat, let them use lethal force. So you'd be perfectly fine with the cops gunning down everyone at that protest? I don't agree with the protesters at all but a part of a free society is your right to assembly. Your comment looks more like something you'd see in Syria. |
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| #22 08:08am 27/01/12 |
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simul
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-General_of_Australia - Look who the latest governor general is (Nichola Roxon) Attorney General != Governor General. |
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| #23 08:13am 27/01/12 |
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Kaizer
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Location: Queensland
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Those pictures of Juliar being carried like a big red haired football were some of the funniest pictures ever, she has all the grace of a camel. The AFP totally miss-managed the situation by letting the protesters so close to the building that both the liars were in, they were bashing on the windows ffs. To protest you really don't need to be so close as to be a physical threat to the idiot you're abusing and the protesters should have backed off when they realised the police had lost the plot. They have her shoe too and are prepared to give it back to her personally. |
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| #24 09:26am 27/01/12 |
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hardware
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yeah i came in to post that the governor-general and the attorney general are two completely different people and positions.
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| #25 09:34am 27/01/12 |
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Reverend Evil™
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Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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LOL That didn't look dangerous at all. Almost looks like it's staged. |
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| #26 09:34am 27/01/12 |
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CHUB
Posts: 8468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol, strong overreaction for no reason.
Good on the protesters, I'm all for anything that makes a politicians day harder or uncomfortable. |
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| #27 09:48am 27/01/12 |
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Tele
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Outlaw
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| #29 10:13am 27/01/12 |
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m3nt4l
Posts: 2156
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'm more interested in how Mr Abott's comment was portrayed in the Radio station they were listening to. |
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| #30 10:15am 27/01/12 |
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TufNuT
I like eel pie
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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its funny that no one was arrested.. in the US they would have all been mowed down with uzis i agree i think it was a real under reaction by the police.. at the very least the riot police should have been busting some heads open. p.s. i cant stand either the rangga or abbot but that doesnt change the fact that we are talking about the head of state. last edited by TufNuT at 10:19:33 27/Jan/12 |
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| #31 10:19am 27/01/12 |
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infi
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but what the far-right will do is even worse. Please expand on this trite one-liner. |
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| #32 10:23am 27/01/12 |
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deadlyf
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That looked retarded. The only people hassling them were the media. Hell the cops shoved each other more than they shoved anyone else. |
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| #33 10:49am 27/01/12 |
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dazedandconfused
Posts: 541
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i agree i think it was a real under reaction by the police.. at the very least the riot police should have been busting some heads open. It's no surprise you have the opinion that cops should be physically assaulting people when you also display the kind of ignorance of the governmental system in this country that you just did. |
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| #34 10:57am 27/01/12 |
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straw hat hippie
Posts: 346
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Can someone summarize how the aboriginies are still being hard done by as opposed to just being wingers and can someone summarize what it would take to make them happy as larry.
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| #35 11:51am 27/01/12 |
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TufNuT
I like eel pie
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It's no surprise you have the opinion that cops should be physically assaulting people when you also display the kind of ignorance of the governmental system in this country that you just did. explain.. why because, i called gillard head of state instead of PM? you are correct though i dont fully understand the governmental system, but its irrelevant in this situation im not commenting on each government policy (or maybe i am). either way any other country this would have never been allowed to happen.. last edited by TufNuT at 12:03:47 27/Jan/12 |
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| #36 12:03pm 27/01/12 |
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Fixah
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http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/01/26/1226254/424404-julia-gillard.jpg The first thing i thought when i saw this picture is since when could Gillard afford Jason Statham as a body guard? look at him he's doing the whole "don't worry i'll save you!" pose an all! |
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| #37 01:12pm 27/01/12 |
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thermite
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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An aboriginal is seen wearing one shoe, and a passer-by says "Did you lose a shoe mate?".
"Nope, found one!" |
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| #38 01:13pm 27/01/12 |
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FaceMan
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ravn0s
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| #40 01:40pm 27/01/12 |
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dazedandconfused
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explain.. why because, i called gillard head of state instead of PM? you are correct though i dont fully understand the governmental system, but its irrelevant in this situation im not commenting on each government policy (or maybe i am). either way any other country this would have never been allowed to happen.. Gillard isn't the head of state. And what actually happened? All I can see is some people that were allowed for some reason to protest against the glass wall of the building and then what appeared to be an overreaction to a non-issue with Gillard being dragged down the stairs by some security guards and cops saying "stay back" to people with cameras. |
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| #41 01:44pm 27/01/12 |
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Captain Lateral
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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well, the yearly overreaction to labels is over. what did we learn?
I learnt that our PM makes a useful football, probably the most useful I've seen her yet. I also learnt that tony abbot still manages to look smug even while being manhandled by security. |
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fade
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It was unacceptable behaviour from the mob and utterly counterproductive to their cause. fools. |
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| #43 02:41pm 27/01/12 |
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FaceMan
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Ms Gillard said she didn't believe the events yesterday would hamper progress toward the recognition of There it is again. The Government (with a pathological Liar as a Leader) wants to play with the Constitution ONLY to benefit Native Australians ? http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/407dd615e2beb65d75058700380d08e9/l.gif nah theres something else going on here. |
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Agamemnon
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Who ever has the show and hasnt returned it should be charged with Steal by find! |
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| #45 09:48pm 27/01/12 |
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Damo
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8409852/200-activists-march-on-parliament-house
Protesters have set fire to an Australian flag at the entrance of Parliament House as they called for Aboriginal sovereignty over Australia. http://images.ninemsn.com.au/resizer.aspx?url=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2011/national/2701_flag_a.jpg&width=310 Nice bunch of people they are. |
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m3nt4l
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Black Australia? White Australia? How about just Australia? |
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| #47 10:13pm 27/01/12 |
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Shaexen
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This is what happens when you recognize conquered people, relations don't improve it just becomes a justification for dissent and disunity. Would've been good if they got the PM or abbot, racist firestorms are my favourite. |
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| #48 10:24pm 27/01/12 |
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infi
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And now it's revealed one of the PM's staffers leaked Abbott's location, which provoked the protest. WELL DONE |
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Superform
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they called for Aboriginal sovereignty over Australia. i never understand this bit.. they are Australians.. and Australians have sovereignty over Australia.. problem? |
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| #50 11:06pm 27/01/12 |
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FaceMan
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Clearly this can only be solved by some ppl from the Cronulla Tribe burning an Abbo flag.
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| #51 11:19pm 27/01/12 |
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ravn0s
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so were any of those "protesters" arrested for burning the flag?
edit: never mind, just googled that it's not illegal. last edited by ravn0s at 23:32:23 27/Jan/12 |
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Trauma
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Black Australia? White Australia? How about just Australia? I don't think the 'Aboriginal Parliament' would go for it. |
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Eorl
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I understand the legitimacy of pure aboriginals, they have been introduced to a society they aren't use to/don't know how to cope with, and thus have invoked huge problems. But what I don't like is the 0.000001% "Aboriginals" that try to claim they are Aboriginal and should therefore benefit from the terrible history of their ancestors or "pure" Aboriginals. |
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dazedandconfused
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I understand the legitimacy of pure aboriginals, they have been introduced to a society they aren't use to/don't know how to cope with, and thus have invoked huge problems. But what I don't like is the 0.000001% "Aboriginals" that try to claim they are Aboriginal and should therefore benefit from the terrible history of their ancestors or "pure" Aboriginals. It's only city slicker Aboriginals that do this. I knew many Aboriginals from the country and all of them were either townspeople with jobs or occasionally lived on Aboriginal heritage land. These clowns burning the Australian flag are upstart city slickers on welfare that burn the flag with one hand while cashing to dole cheque with the other. |
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Jc_23
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Dazed is a little extreme I suppose but he is very cluey and racism directly opposes this notion. :) Buh-boom. :( |
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| #56 08:38am 28/01/12 |
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Outlaw
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What I don't get is.. What did the PM's Adviser have to gain from telling a mob of abo's the PM's next door. Surely the abo's have nothing of value and if he wants the PM to lose the next election wouldnt that be bad for him also? |
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| #57 09:31am 28/01/12 |
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ravn0s
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he told them that abbott was there. they were pissed off with abbott because they misinterpreted something he said. |
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Outlaw
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he told them that abbott was there. they were pissed off with abbott because they misinterpreted something he said. nos*** What did the PM's Adviser have to gain |
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ara
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What I don't get is.. What did the PM's Adviser have to gain from telling a mob of abo's the PM's next door. Surely the abo's have nothing of value and if he wants the PM to lose the next election wouldnt that be bad for him also? he told them Abbot was there because they were upset with Abbot's comment on the radio. unfortunately when they saw Gillard they thought it would be much better to protest there and they all moved across. i think in his naive head, he expected them to protest at abbot and cheer for gillard or something and i think labor is desperate to have anyone cheer for them atm. |
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| #60 09:47am 28/01/12 |
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Outlaw
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I still don't understand what Gillards adviser was hoping to gain from this. He ended up being fired, making Gillard look even worse and abbott even better. Plus stiring up the whole abo=retards thing again. |
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| #61 09:52am 28/01/12 |
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FaceMan
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It was surprising how many ppl turned up so quickly.
I guess they had mobiles and word spread quickly. I think the Staffer was hoping it would look bad for Abbott but the Abbos were angry at both sides of Politics. |
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| #62 11:37am 28/01/12 |
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Hogfather
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I still don't understand what Gillards adviser was hoping to gain from this. He ended up being fired, making Gillard look even worse and abbott even better. Plus stiring up the whole abo=retards thing again. That's what happened, but not what he was after. The tent embassy guys were enraged that Abbott had mentioned that it might be time they moved on. They had no beef with Gillard, so he was probably after an Australia Day sound byte of Abbott being abused by a bunch of aborigines. The ALP probably feels like they are on safe territory on the issue given that they did the whole apology etc. It would have made Abbott look like a loose cannon jerk, ignited some commentary on the embassy and reconciliation which is an issue the Government has a lot of resonance with their core constituency. They would have had an opportunity to be all left wing and compassionate and assure the embassy that they were going nowhere, bang on about the apology and the good work being done and plans for the blah blah blah. Labor needs to shore up their primary vote by doing (or appearing to do) some left wing s***. There was also the opportunity for the PM to stand up and be all prime ministerial and reassuring to the mob having a go at Abbott. Instead they got a riot and had to run away. Epic backfire. |
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| #63 11:46am 28/01/12 |
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FaceMan
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They had no beef with Gillard The problem is White Man Government. Gillard and Abbott are two heads of the same beast. Left or Right nothing seems to change. |
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| #64 12:04pm 28/01/12 |
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infi
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^^ You need to try harder, that was almost an haiku.
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| #65 12:15pm 28/01/12 |
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Hogfather
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f***, thanks infi, I almost replied to that >< |
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DocterMoist
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Kim Sattler stirred up the race riot with untrue statements and false comments that Tony Abbot didn't even say. Then she stood behind the rioters with a massive troll face, a grin from ear to ear. This is typical labor tricks. http://pic.twitter.com/g0OTB72z |
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FaceMan
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Gillard prolly did know what was going on.
But lets be honest, the Woman has a credibility problem with the Truth. http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/gala.jpg The Woman just needs to resign. |
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paveway
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tbh it just looked like old matey wanted an excuse to drop the shoulder into the PM
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