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scuzzy
Posts: 13803
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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heh inbound on the riverside this afternoon wasnt a car park for once. other direction was still the same though :(missing hale street and the riverside expressway was pretty good, soon as I came out of the tunnel onto the M1 back down to 60 |
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| #120 08:25pm 16/03/10 |
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Crakaveli
Posts: 3756
Location: USA
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I'm thinking of going for a joy drive tonight. Something about entering a tunnel that excites me. sexy |
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| #121 08:45pm 16/03/10 |
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Persay
Posts: 6099
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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im gonna take a sick day tomorrow so i can stay up late tonight and fool around in the tunnel a bit
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| #122 10:25pm 16/03/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9562
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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you might want to disable the cameras first.
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| #123 10:54pm 16/03/10 |
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Kat
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I am happy to get s*** for it. I am severely claustrophobic and should never have attempted it, but I did because I thought I would get over it. No such luck :/
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| #124 11:26pm 16/03/10 |
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`ViPER`
Posts: 2078
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It's a pretty short tunnel really. 5 mins and your done :/ Thats what she said. |
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| #125 08:47am 17/03/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I am happy to get s*** for it. I am severely claustrophobic and should never have attempted it, but I did because I thought I would get over it. No such luck :/ heh there is an article in todays courier mail that says claustrophobics shouldnt go into the tunnel. |
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| #126 10:00am 17/03/10 |
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Lowgoz
Posts: 7
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah lowgoz is splat. whoop.
Ok more questions answered 8 speed cameras due to 2 x lanes in 2 x tunnels, so you really only pass through two. Its to stop asshats crashing their cars and ending up like diana of course the tunnel has backup generators. They tell you to turn your lights on so other people can see you. You'd never know if the power went out, nothing would change. rebroadcast is of every station, but if you think about it they only need very low power, its not like when your driving normally your radio is picking up really strong signals. Stop the cancer fear BS. If you are at the bowen hills end, you will see construction of airport link flyovers. This means that you will be able to exit the tunnel out there and get straight onto airport link which essentially is a tunnel straight out to the airport. GPS does not work in the tunnel. Even if it did, the flyovers and tunnel itself isn't mapped yet. |
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| #127 08:40pm 17/03/10 |
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mission
Posts: 6472
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If you are at the bowen hills end, you will see construction of airport link flyovers. This means that you will be able to exit the tunnel out there and get straight onto airport link which essentially is a tunnel straight out to the airport. That sounds pretty sweet, probably be an expensive journey though :( |
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| #128 08:42pm 17/03/10 |
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Lowgoz
Posts: 8
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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fake plates
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| #129 08:53pm 17/03/10 |
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Jim
Posts: 11430
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I read the original cancer thing as a joke kind of like my censorship comment |
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| #130 09:09pm 17/03/10 |
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neffo
Forum Hero
Posts: 16405
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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of course the tunnel has backup generators. They tell you to turn your lights on so other people can see you. You'd never know if the power went out, nothing would change. Depends on the system they have, but the lights (except for battery powered emergency lighting) probably would go out until the generators kicked back in. |
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| #131 09:20pm 17/03/10 |
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mission
Posts: 6473
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Just did the tunnel, good stuff :)
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| #132 09:36pm 17/03/10 |
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Dazhel
Posts: 1103
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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GPS does not work in the tunnel. Even if it did, the flyovers and tunnel itself isn't mapped yet. Even if it was, it's not like the GPS is going to tell you to take a sharp left 60m underneath the river either. |
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| #133 10:01pm 17/03/10 |
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Triamks
Posts: 2866
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Went through the tunnel both ways today. Driving north my radio coverage kept getting interrupted with advice there was congestion ahead. I got the picture the first time, particularly since I drove past the congestion on my way through the first time. I understand that the broadcast probably can't be directed at sections of the tunnel, but the tunnels are obviously independent of each other. All in all, it was a good to drive through it once, but I don't see myself using it once the toll kicks in, particularly since it's actually quite boring. Also, the sign-age should be improved, as the exit onto the ICB isn't clear. |
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| #134 08:40pm 18/03/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9573
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol some retard rode his bike through it.
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| #135 08:45pm 18/03/10 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2744
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I wonder if the Google Car will go through.
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| #136 09:54pm 18/03/10 |
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CHUB
Posts: 6316
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol some retard rode his bike through it.Hah what? Link? |
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| #137 10:01pm 18/03/10 |
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Triamks
Posts: 2868
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It was in today's Courier Mail. |
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| #138 10:12pm 18/03/10 |
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Persay
Posts: 6114
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i dont remember seeing any signs saying that was prohibited
Tunnel was ok spose... Claustrophobia is ridiculous in there. As if you'd be scared, it's the most nonthreatening tunnel ever la ^^ |
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| #139 10:15pm 18/03/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9574
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i dont remember seeing any signs saying that was prohibited theres quite a few signs saying what vehicles are prohibited. |
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| #140 10:19pm 18/03/10 |
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Dazhel
Posts: 1108
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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particularly since it's actually quite boring It's a long traffic tunnel, of course it's boring. Did you expect portholes so you can see the fishes swimming in the river? |
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| #141 10:27pm 18/03/10 |
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neffo
Forum Hero
Posts: 16408
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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| #142 10:31pm 18/03/10 |
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Triamks
Posts: 2869
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Did you expect portholes so you can see the fishes swimming in the river? That would have been awesome, since I did miss having a view, however, the tunnel goes under the river, not along the bottom, so no fishes would be able to be seen. My comment was based on the hype that surrounded the tunnel. I merely expected the tunnel to live up to that hype, particularly since this was the first (serious) tunnel I had driven through. |
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| #143 10:40pm 18/03/10 |
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tequila
Posts: 6311
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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not to mention the fact that riding on highways/motorways/freeways is completely illegal
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| #144 10:41pm 18/03/10 |
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scuzzy
Posts: 13823
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Tunnel is back to being tolled as of this morning, but with 30% off (not sure if that's all vehicle classes, only briefly saw the sign on the way northbound).
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| #145 07:40am 06/04/10 |
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mission
Posts: 6543
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Will be interesting to see what happens.
Personally I think the $4.28 is too steep. The Tunnel opening made a significant difference to my commute to and from work (I don't use the tunnel) so I hope that doesn't change. I'm on holidays this week so they'll have 1 week to sort it out! last edited by mission at 09:11:51 06/Apr/10 |
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| #146 09:11am 06/04/10 |
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Scooter
Posts: 2721
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I do see a lot of people using the tunnel, though no-where near as much as when it is free. So your commute should still be slightly faster.
Anyone with a company vehicle will surely use the Tunnel. Most Tradies I know said they couldn't justify the extra $45 a week to use it. Some have said they will use it though, as it all goes back off tax. |
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| #147 09:09am 06/04/10 |
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tequila
Posts: 6515
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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still free between midnight and 5am i think, or something around that time frame
sounds like they're trying to avoid what happened with Sydney's cross city tunnel |
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| #148 10:20am 06/04/10 |
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hardware
Posts: 7025
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sounds like they're trying to avoid what happened with Sydney's cross city tunneland that is? |
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| #149 11:14am 06/04/10 |
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Scooter
Posts: 2725
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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$900m The cost of building the tunnel. http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/fire-sale-as-tunnel-price-plummets/2007/02/07/1170524164264.html Basically. No-one used it because the Toll-Fee was too high. Much like the White-Elephant a few people are predicting the Clem7 will become. |
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| #150 11:32am 06/04/10 |
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tequila
Posts: 6518
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and that is? no one used it for ages because it was ridiculously expensive edit: beaten+ ^ to put things into perspective, the few minutes you'll save each day will cost you $2k/year at 48 weeks last edited by tequila at 11:37:58 06/Apr/10 |
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| #151 11:37am 06/04/10 |
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mission
Posts: 6544
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You'll save a bit in fuel and wear and tear on your car though which will be a small saving to offset the toll cost.
I reckon the $4.28 is too high. $2.50 sounds good to me. I'd use it daily for that if using it was an option for me. |
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| #152 11:40am 06/04/10 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2875
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Why dont they offer a discount for the 2nd trip in 24hrs or even 12 ?
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| #153 11:48am 06/04/10 |
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 10417
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It shouldn't be tolled if it is such an integral part of Brisbane Traffic management.
That being said, I have absolutely no reason to use it. It would only be of use to me if I was going to Stones Corner or something near and that doesn't really happen. I used it the other day purely to use it, to get to my destination from Holland Park to Kelvin Grove it would have been better to go a different route, but I used the tunnels, it took a similar amount of time but I would normally have to pay for it :/ |
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| #154 11:51am 06/04/10 |
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tequila
Posts: 6519
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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why don't they learn from others mistakes and not set ridiculous toll charges from the get go
c***s put the gateway tolls up to try and force people through the new tunnel, all it seems to have done is increased congestion through the city |
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| #155 11:51am 06/04/10 |
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rubba-chikin
Posts: 6464
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Out of curiosity is it a flat fee or is it cheaper for bikes?
Still over here in Canada... but I'll be back in a week. Missed the free period, but if it is infact free after midnight I'll take a run through it just for the hell of it to take a look. No use to me for where I go but hopefully inbound traffic on the freeway will be a bit less which will benefit me. last edited by rubba-chikin at 11:56:20 06/Apr/10 |
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| #156 11:56am 06/04/10 |
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Corrupt
Posts: 1489
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Shoudln't be any toll for it anyway already paid for it why twice?
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| #157 12:04pm 06/04/10 |
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hardware
Posts: 7027
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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| #158 12:07pm 06/04/10 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2879
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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WTF^ ?
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| #159 12:10pm 06/04/10 |
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thermite
Posts: 4689
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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what going f*** on this in thread
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| #160 12:12pm 06/04/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9739
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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why don't they learn from others mistakes and not set ridiculous toll charges from the get go they put the tolls up to make it look like a nice investment for buyers. |
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| #161 12:18pm 06/04/10 |
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 10418
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Grammer gone what my mothers bike? |
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| #162 12:19pm 06/04/10 |
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Scooter
Posts: 2727
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Shoudln't be any toll for it anyway already paid for it why twice? I've never seen any stats on Public to Private funding for the Tunnel. Is it something they havent released or is my Google-Fu weak? I was under the impression that the lions share of the cost for the road was footed by the RiverCity group. They would also be incharge of maint costs if i'm not mistaken. rubba-chikin; RiverCity Motorway has left the door open to continuing the discounts beyond May 10, when it was expected to begin charging the full tolls: $4.28 for cars, $2.14 for motorbikes, $6.42 for light commercial vehicles and $11.33 for heavy commercial vehicles. |
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| #163 12:26pm 06/04/10 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2880
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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People like to get things for free.
If you do 9 trips make the 10th free. I was reading somewhere that Australia has the highest tolls per Km in the world. |
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| #164 12:29pm 06/04/10 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2961
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 10440
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol, awesome tunnel guys!
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| #166 06:10am 15/04/10 |
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CHUB
Posts: 6445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Old mans shares have been going to s*** since the day it opened.
Went to uber s*** when they stopped the free tolling and the numbers dropped to a level where they're actually losing money. |
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| #167 06:20am 15/04/10 |
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`ViPER`
Posts: 2164
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Went to uber s*** when they stopped the free tolling and the numbers dropped to a level where they're actually losing money. Wasnt this pretty much expected though? $4.50 is just too much for a toll that they expect people to pay for a daily commute. Thats like $45 a week if people use it every day to and from work, thats over $2000 a year. Alot more than people would pay for insurance, more than the cost of fuel, more than rego. I think about $2.50 is the highst people would deal with. I reckon that new bridge they are building from west end over to the ICB is going to fail even more, its a toll to cross a bridge and I thinks its going to be over $3. |
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| #168 06:32am 15/04/10 |
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Scooter
Posts: 2786
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Went to uber s*** when they stopped the free tolling and the numbers dropped to a level where they're actually losing money. Gee, who could of predicted that? Oh, wait. Everyone. |
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| #169 06:32am 15/04/10 |
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CHUB
Posts: 6447
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I think they're screwed, lowering the price of the toll might increase the amount of people but ultimately they needed the same amount of people going through when it was free (assuming new + free = max amount that will ever go through in the near future) but paying the $4.30 to turn the profit they wanted.
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| #170 06:35am 15/04/10 |
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`ViPER`
Posts: 2165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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paying the $4.30 to turn the profit they wanted. Thats the whole problem with this kinda thing, people shouldnt be making money from the roads we drive on. Im not sure if its possible but the government should have funded it all and run the tolling. Then it should be run with the minimum toll to pay it off in 30-50 years. |
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| #171 06:48am 15/04/10 |
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mission
Posts: 6563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I reckon $2.50 is also max it should be. You'd probably save a litre of fuel avoiding all the stop start traffic so it really isn't too bad then. I wouldn't think twice to use it at $2.50.
I couldn't believe that new Go Between Bridge is going to be tolled, that's just dumb. Trying to fix traffic problems by charging commuters stupid tolls ain't going to work. |
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| #172 07:14am 15/04/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9829
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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meh within a few weeks people will start to realise that a loss of $4.50 is better than sitting in traffic for 30mins.
didnt people whinge and bitch about the gateway? now look at how many people use it. |
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| #173 08:15am 15/04/10 |
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iStrawman
Posts: 2691
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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didnt people whinge and bitch about the gateway? now look at how many people use it.Ya well it's going up to $3.85 in july so you can expect less people to use it. They paid that thing off years ago yet the prices are still going up. |
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| #174 08:25am 15/04/10 |
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paveway
Posts: 11831
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah lol that gateway bridge is going up by like $1 in price over the next year
forget that, that's insanely blatant revenue raising. more blatant than speed cameras |
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| #175 08:30am 15/04/10 |
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neffo
Forum Hero
Posts: 16508
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Im not sure if its possible but the government should have funded it all and run the tolling. Then it should be run with the minimum toll to pay it off in 30-50 years. The council built it though (along with some private company), I don't think they'd have the money to build it outright. |
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| #176 08:32am 15/04/10 |
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Saint
Cainer
Posts: 2672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I hope the tolls fail so maybe they'll re-evaluate tolling everything / letting private companies do it. The Hale St Bridge one is the biggest joke, I hope it never gets used. |
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| #177 08:48am 15/04/10 |
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tequila
Posts: 6714
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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if it pisses you off just do what I do, don't use it
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| #178 08:57am 15/04/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9831
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The Hale St Bridge one is the biggest joke, I hope it never gets used ill use it when the riverside is f***ed. Ya well it's going up to $3.85 in july so you can expect less people to use it. They paid that thing off years ago yet the prices are still going up. they put the price up because they want to sell it. |
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| #179 08:59am 15/04/10 |
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iStrawman
Posts: 2695
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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And how does that relate to my point of saying that less people will use it because of the price hike?
Man that strawman is strong with that one. |
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| #180 09:00am 15/04/10 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 9832
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i was explaining why they put the prices up ya mong.
anyway i dont think the price increase is going to have too much of an affect on traffic. the other options people have to get over that way are even worse than the gateway imo. |
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| #181 09:08am 15/04/10 |
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iStrawman
Posts: 2696
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'm not really interested in why they put the price up. They can try and justify it until they turn blue and purple. It's the motorists that always get the raw deal at the end. I for one won't be using it when the price goes up, only if a really have to.
anyway i dont think the price increase is going to have too much of anFixed FYI. |
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