WALT!

so is the OP the 1st ten minutes of the new ep airing next week?

reading comprehension ftw

no its not. but heres the first 4 minutes.




some dude won a lost marketing campaign and they sent him a usb stick with this vid on it

do I wanna watch that?

the first 2 mins is a replay of the final minutes of last years finale, then it shows you what happens after the bomb goes off.

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guys there is 3 more brand new videos if you go to www.abc.com and click on the big lost advertisment, they are f***ing unreal!!!! SO PUMPED FOR THIS HOLY f***ING s***!!!!!

Haha saw this earlier today. I've never watched Lost, but it looks f***ing confusing.



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WTF.. is the first epp of season 6 out?

edit, oh i see, lots of vids, the starter kits are pretty cool.

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ROFL

That college humor one is f***ing hilarious

hahah yeah college humor one is class

FKNLOL.

Did they ever show what happened to those c***s that got bitten by the spider and were buried alive cause of that paralysis shizzle or whatever they called it.

I forget.

I guess they died...

it has begun...

the beginning of the end

heh thats why i waited. i knew they would pull s*** like that

someone will release a single of ep2

They released singles for 24 season 8 episodes 1-4 when it was a double night! Sometimes internet... I don't know you..

slow as f*** here too, i'm actually going to make and eat a stir fry before I see this motherf***er
doing the 2-in-1 though

what am i doing wrong

using torrents.

i got my torrents supah fast :D lost is awesome.

that was an interesting double ep

Of note:

1. Spoiler:
no one actually left the airport

2. Spoiler:
i'm pretty sure that's jacob that just re-incarnated in Sayed's body

agree with both

Spoiler:

possibly, but it seems jacob is 'dead'.

Also, libby? WTF is going on there, she died ages ago

I'd normally use spoilers, but this is a thread about a current season of a TV show so discussions of up-to-date stuff are expected.

Anyhow, why was Desmond on the plane? If the island was underwater then obviously he wouldn't have ended up on the island earlier and wouldn't be sitting there in front of the 386 PC and causing the plane to crash at that moment. So what caused him to end up on that flight?

Yeah, anyone who comes in here and gets s***ty about us discussing Season 6 of Lost deserves to have it spoiled.

no one actually left the airport

It looked as though Claire and Kate did.

^you're a bit slow then eh.

I guess Desmond was there because the island was underwater for last 30 years. He didn't sail to it, he sailed over it and on to Australia, where after doing whatever he did there he caught a flight back to America.

How is Jacob being in Sayed's body any different to his mate being in Locks?

Jacob allowed Ben to kill him, because he knew it would happen (or couldn't stop it) which is why Hurley was travelling across the world with the note to say give Sayed a bath or Jacob will be angry. Sayed needed to be in place for him to re-incarnate

jacobs "mate" isnt in lockes body. he is the smoke monster and the smoke monster can make itself look like anyone. it made itself look like locke to trick ben into killing jacob.

frakture libby wasnt in either episode so dunno wtf youre talking about.

what a retarded show

lost was to tv what Windows Updates were to WinXP


there will be a tonne of Qs that will never be answered, yet no one will ever demand to know why so long as things keep moving.

I'm thinking there'll be a spin off coming

and people will eat it up

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Who plays the crazy looking guy with the glasses? The one at the temple, who was acting as an interpreter for the badass samurai ninja guy. He looks really familiar but I can't remember what I've seen him in before and its been bugging me all day.

Edit: nevermind, just found it, he was Bullock's friend in Deadwood.

last edited by Khel at 19:51:01 04/Feb/10

thats john hawkes khel. he was sol star in deadwood.

edit: bah

f*** I looked for it too

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370035/

frakture libby wasnt in either episode so dunno wtf youre talking about.

Hmm sorry, I meant "Cindy Chandler", the hostess chick. And now I remember she was taken by the others early on, not killed like libby. >_>

I've pretty much worked out how Lost is gonna finish but I'll wait til the end to tell you if I was right or not.

Don't worry about telling us Rev, can you tell the show's creators please?
That College Humor vid was on the money.

for such a huge show, my god the cgi sucks dick.
good ep though

haha this season is going to be great!!

the 00 refresher episode was bloody awesome too.

PS: This is an interview with the writers between the first 5mins being leaked and the first ep being aired.

The interviewer says there are SPOILERS, but for people who have seen the first ep, its really just more of an explanation of what might be happening throughout the season.

You know the writers never give much away.

"Cindy Chandler", the hostess chick.

Yeah, that's Kimberly Joseph :D

i just can't believe this show is still around, at all

Sorry, but its probably the most interesting series in the last 10 years, if not longer.

yeh, ur a tard teq and clearly havent watched much of it.. lost is sort of more then a tv show, u cant just sit down, watch it and be over with it, its like a f***en jigsaw puzzle and youre always trying to figure s*** out and guess what the f*** is going on.. which i love, the twists in it are by far the most awesome iv ever seen anywhere! <3 lost

twin peaks was better, mongie.

yeah but that finished 19 years ago...

ok then, seems like only yesterday...

I think the plane ride was as per usual up to the point of turbulence. I think the parallel universe began mid flight (eg when the episode began). Christian Sheppards coffin was on the the manifest which means it was probably loaded into the cargo hold and disappeared from the plane when the timeline split became parallel.
Also, Desmond only showed up when Charlie got into trouble in the toilet, but vanished once Jack revived him. I think this has alot to do with Charlie's destiny.
Also, in the first ep when Locke (Smokey) tells Ben to go get Richard...the is a scene with Frank Leppedis and Sun...while they are talking, Richard is talking with one of Illyana's men in the back ground...crank up the volume and you will here him ask Richard, "How long have you been working with him?" and Richard replies, "About a million years or so" It's hard to hear but definitely said and confirmed on the Lostpedia site.
Also, Jacob in Sayid ftw.
Bet Smokey is taking Richard to the temple gates to try to sneak his way in (by way of forcing Richard to do a secret knock or some s***). I'd love to see Locke and Sayid transform into smoke forms and battle it out.
Also, I mention in another thread that we will get to see Richards feet at some point. It was confirmed again on Lostpedia...but that is all that is said about it. I'm guessing he will have four toes.

think the plane ride was as per usual up to the point of turbulence. I think the parallel universe began mid flight

They made hurley say he was the luckiest man alive just to dispel that notion.

and shannon wasn't on the plane, and desmond shouldn't have been there

Sorry, I was implying that I think that everything changed mid flight. Shannon boarded the plane, Hurley was unlucky, Desmond didn't board the plane in Australia. I'm theorizing that after JugHead exploded and history was changed, the timeline for the passengers changed in an instant. Shannon disappeared and Boone's recollection of history had changed. Hurley's history changed also and Desmond seemingly appeared out of nowhere (I realize that he told Jack that his seating companion was snoring) but it doesn't really rule out that he could have instantly appeared on the plane as the bomb went off...especially considering his vanishing act after Charlie's destiny was changed (note: I also realise he could have gone to sit somewhere else on the plane, but this is Lost and just about every scene is significant) And Jack had that dejavu look on his face like he knew he just had a life altering moment.

plus we didnt see desmond get off the plane. we saw everyone else get off.

maybe desmond is time travelling again?

yeah it does seem desmond would ideally be explained by his flashes in time

i think the alt timeline is what leads up to the events that are occuring on the island right now, basically.
and the whole thing is a loop where jacob can never die
he knows this. he didnt even try to defend himself
claires gonna give birth to her baby
at the middle or end of the season
and name it "jacob"

and richard was a slave on the black rock ship.
"good to see u out of those chains"

predicted.



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^ The Black Rock pirate ship was the first thing I thought of when I heard about the chains, but Richard did say he has been working with 'him' (I assume Jacob) for about a million years - and I would imagine that time was spent on the island. Also the spoiler about his feet indicates that he might have four toes. Which could mean he is Tawaret the God of Fertility or at least related to it. The reference to chains might mean something else. I just can't see Richard being a slave on the ship.

On that note, I wonder if the failing birth rate came into play when the statue was broken.

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^fair calls.

i do belive that the monster is an alien.
i used to be a x files fan ....and on theback of the magazine the black chicks reading on the plane it says "the truth is out there" and an add for Morley cigarettes...which was what the cigarette smoking man smoked ...hints that he could be an alien but i dunno. ithink it would be dope if he was an alien as long as they didnt f*** it up in how they bought that angle across.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morley_%28cigarette%29
It's just like using Oceanic as the airline.

^ even that wiki entry says x-files is the most famous use of the brand.
but yeah i see where you're getting at.
still is relevant i say.

Sorry, I was implying that I think that everything changed mid flight. Shannon boarded the plane, Hurley was unlucky, Desmond didn't board the plane in Australia.

Id agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that Desmond has the uncontrollable ability to time travel, i think he magically appeared on the plan and played a small part in an event that we are yet to full understand and then he magically disappeared... it may have something to do with charlie.. considering that Desmond has time traveled into charlies life a few times... but we will see.

Wasn't Desmond's time traveling through his own life period? He flashed backwards or forwards in himself in places/times he'd been before, etc, he never actually moved his own body through time.

Groganus, not sure if you read my post properly. Your theory on Desmond is exactly what I was talking about. I think he did magically appear and disappear from the plane right after the turbulence.

Also, if this is true, it will be the first time that Desmond has physically time traveled. All the other times he was flashing into his past and flashing into Charlie's future, he was only mentally time traveling. When he flashed to his past, he was actually sitting in the plane heading for the freighter and it appeared that he had blacked out. When they got to the freighter, they found that guy in the infirmary who was mentally time traveling too. He was flashing to a carnival within his mind but his body remained in the infirmary.

wouldn't be sitting there in front of the 386 PC

it was an Apple ][e (2e)

did anyone else find it odd that a guy who could magically solder up and old early 80's computer after if was shot up couldn't come up with a simple way to punch in a series of numbers automagically?

surely that's be like a few lines of code - maybe a few more if it ran in old Basic

Just curious, was it Horus that said "help me" to Locke in the cabin ages ago? I can't remember if the later episodes "answered" it or not.

Shame they couldn't get anymore old cast members for them leaving the plane, like Eko, Nikki, Libby, Anna Lucia, Paulo, Michael, Shannon, Nathan etc.

edit: Wish I found this Page before finding these names a longer way :P
815 Passenger Wiki

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apparently shannon will appear sometime later in the season. same with juliet

Yea, Eko is apparently making a reappearance as well as Walt. Producers said that the actor who played Libby was offered 3x her original pay packet to return, but she declined due to sand in her vagina about being killed off so early. They have also said that her character is vital to the storyline and some things may be left unanswered because of her refusal to rejoin the cast.

So just to recap a bit about Libby:
She was Hurley's fling on the island.
She was also in the Santa Rosa Mental hospital with Hurley, although he didn't know her then.
She was the one who gave Desmond the boat enabling him to join the race that led him to the island.
Her dead husband's name was David and he was a philanthropist.
(Hurley's imaginary friend was named Dave - and Hurley can see dead people)

Also, I believe it was Christian Sheppard who was asking Locke for help in the cabin. After Jacob left the cabin, Christian took up residence. Note - Christian Sheppard was either animated or impersonated by Smokey.

Libby will be seen in 2nd half of Final season

oh...

wasn't the cabin surrounded by a ring of that black sand to keep smokey out ? thus christian sheppard could not be animated by smokey.

The line of black sand/ash surrounding the cabin was a broken line by the time Locke and Ben first went there. I'm guessing the broken line meant Smokey could come and go as he pleased....prolly also the reason Jacob went to stay in the staue again.

Desmond didn't travel through time, only his conscious did. His mind went back and forth between himself in the past and future. His body was just collapsing on the ground in the time period he wasn't experiencing at the time. You see them trying to wake him up when he comes to in the present.

I reckon the writers have just tried to purposely lead us astray re Desmond.

If the basic idea of this altered timeline is that a) the island is underwater for whatever reason and b) as such the plane doesn't crash onto it, it also stands to reason that Desmond never crashed on the island.

As such, he could have been doing anything at all; but I think they've already hinted that something draws the people on the plane together? So if Desmond hadn't crashed on the island (which he doesnt in the altered timeline), he is instead drawn to flight 815 like the rest of them.

yeah you guys are probably right about Desmond, but where the heck did he go

I posted this theory in another thread, but I'll recap because we have new info. If it turns out to be true then I suppose it would be a SPOILER.

Two rocks, one black & one white, were found amongst the belongings of 'Adam & Eve' in the caves. Jack supposed the bodies had been dead for 50 yrs or so.
The same rocks were on Desmond's coffee table when he did his first mental flash (he flashed to a time he was painting his apartment).
I think Adam & Eve are Desmond & Penny.
I think they will return to the island with their little boy Charlie.
With all the confusion of time traveling, I think they they will find them selves in 1940 or so.
They named their boy after Charlie who sacraficed his life in the Hydra station to get a msg to Penny.
I think that after they die in the caves, little Charlie is left abandoned on the island to fend for himself until such time as the Hostiles (Richards crew) takes him under their wing.
This theory says that little Charlie Widmore grows up to become big Charles Widmore.
Crazy, I know...
Charles eventually catches up with his mother Penny (maybe from a parallel time line - dunno) and rather than freak her out by telling her that he is in fact her son, he tells her that she is his daughter.
It would explain why Widmore (a guy who has heaps of power and thugs to do his bidding) didn't have Desmond offed from the start and also why he turned up at the hospital after Ben shot Desmond to ask if he was alright.

I may have overlooked some paradoxes, but time travel stories are like that. Also, as the show winds up, new information may come up to cover any obvious paradoxes.

The whole timereset thing has killed Claires Australian accent.

she still sounded australian to me

yeah iv read that theory too auz_guy

sounds good, ep3 was crap, revealed pretty much nothing, that is the craziest/cool ending if thats what happens


more interested right now in what jacob/anti jacob is, their relation to the island, RICHARD in general, and still the whole time travelling thing!@

she still sounded australian to me

I wouldnt have noticed the accent if i didnt just watch that "previously on" episode they just had on 7-2, her accent was heaps stronger in the early episodes.

Semi forgot she was jacks sister too at the end when Japanese guy goes "your sister", seriously why wouldn't he just say "claire", the whole episode was like that though, trying to be all mysterious and vague, pretty annoying, just wanted Jack to start slapping that c*** and tell him to make sense.

^Oh f***, claire is jack's sister. I'd completely forgotten about that. :/

I think he said 'your sister' because jack doesn't actually know it's claire?

yeah he met claire's mother, he knows

That was a pretty s*** ep. Those guys in the temple are pissing me off. Why the f*** can't anybody on that island give a straight direct answer FFS!

It's a shame pouty boring Jack didn't die from the poison and spend the rest of the season rotting somewhere.

Holy s*** I just found out the guy arresting Kate is NOT James Woods. I've been watching this show for SIX years telling people it's James Woods.

yeah he met claire's mother, he knows

no he has no idea that claire is his sister. all jack knows is that his dad was having an affair with claires mum.

Ten months after the crash, Jack delivers a eulogy at his father's memorial service. He expresses remorse over not having his body present, saying he loved his father. After the ceremony, Carole Littleton (Claire's mum) approaches him. She explains her story, revealing to Jack that Claire - whom she believes he never met - was his half-sister and was also on the plane. Jack is obviously shaken at the news. Carole then approaches Kate, complimenting Aaron, unaware that he's her grandson.

heh i dont even remember that

re: claires accent.

it does sound like she calls the baby 'erin' rather than aaron.

true that not much happened plot wise in ep 3, but thats how this show works.
most times, in hindsight, these type of episodes are the most important.

Yeah, I thought she was saying Erin too, but then I forgot the baby wasn't actually called Erin.

Sounded like Aaron to me.

And I totally forgot that Claire was his sister.

^ my best mates name is aaron, and if i pronounced it like that, he'd probably end up hitting me. soooooooooooooo, nah bro.

Even when Kate repeated it and said "Erin (Aaron) is a good name" it still sounded like Erin to me.

Yanks pronounce Aaron as Erin, so annoying! I asked some what happens when an Aaron dates an Erin and how do you differentiate the names and they didn't know :p

Maybe my mind was just translating it to Aaron since I knew that was what she ended up calling the baby.

Ok. All Season 6 Lost discussion is to be kept to this thread. Unless there is a desire to discuss actual spoilers (unaired in the US stuff) then you can create a separate thead for that. Anything not yet aired in the US that isn't just personal speculation and genuine discussion is not permitted in this thread.

WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER THREAD, WE HAVE TO GO BACK, KATEDAN.

I lol'ed

Just watched the new ep, pretty awesome! Though I have to wonder, did they (as in, the writers) really have this planned out from the start? I mean right back in season 1 when the numbers first came up, did they really know what the numbers were going to mean? Cos it still makes no sense why those numbers were etched on the hatch, or why they needed to be entered into the computer. Sure, it makes for a pretty awesome reveal, with the numbers being part of Jacob's plan and representing the survivors, but I still find it hard to swallow that this was the idea all along.

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This still might not be what the numbers 'mean'. Seems they mean a lot of things, just keep popping up in different places.

i took the numbers beside the names as meaning what order he met each person. locke was the 4th person, jack the 8th etc. or maybe he just numbered all the people on the the flight.

What ever happened to Desmond? I can not for the life of me remember? and last nights ep on TV was s***, was really annoying me the dialoge between characters, grrrr!

Last time we saw Desmond he got shot by Ben and then he beat the s*** out of Ben and threw him into the marina where he, Penny, and little Charlie were staying in their boat "Our Mutual Friend".

actually the last time we saw him was on the plane :P

true, I have a hard time accepting the bizarro world as real I guess

Sure, it makes for a pretty awesome reveal, with the numbers being part of Jacob's plan and representing the survivors, but I still find it hard to swallow that this was the idea all along.

starting to agree khel, i just f***ing hope they pull it off..

The last time we saw Desmond he was lying in a hospital bed with Penny by his side (after Ben shot him at the marina). Penny gets a visit from Eloise Hawkings and she admits that Desmond's situation is ultimately her son, Daniel Faraday's fault. When Eloise walks out of the hospital she is met by Charles Widmore. He asks if he (Desmond) is ok. Elosise says that he should go see for himself and mentions that his daughter is there. Charles says that he gave up his relationship with his daughter along time ago. Eloise says he knows nothing about sacrifice, because she had lost her son, Daniel. Then Widmore says something about that not being fair because Daniel is his son too.

Don't know if it means a great deal, but Sheppard's number in the cave is 23, as was Jack's seat number on the plane. Also, the cave inscription doesn't indicate whether it is Jack Sheppard or Christian Sheppard....just 23 Sheppard.

I wonder what Illyana will use the WHITE ashes of Jacob for.

Spoiler:

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/038/630/original/300.png?1265342471

auz_guy if it were christian sheppard it would have been crossed out.

have they forgotten about Walt?

Who gives a s*** about walt.

Yea true rav.

Hey. when we first saw Miles do his 'ghostbuster' thing. He was at an old black woman's house. I assumed it was Walt's Grandmother's house, because after Miles spoke to the spirit, he found the heroin in the wall cavity and it was the same packaging as Charlie's gear. So, was it actually confirmed that it was Walt he was speaking to? Wonder when he dies...and how that scene fits into the timeline.

May have mentioned this before, but in that scene, when Miles is returning to the living room from up stairs..he stops and looks at the photos on the wall. Every photo and photo frame had changed into modern frames and photos. They were completely different on his way up the stairs.

I'm thinking Miles is seeing 2 different timelines at once. Maybe he's not so much talking to the dead, but talking to the occupants of the other timeline. Maybe Hurley is in the same boat on that one. There has been a few occasions where the environment around Hurley has completely changed (eg, photo of him with his imaginary friend (dave) and the scene where Anna Lucia pulls him over with the unconscious Sayid next to him).

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anyone get a good look at smokey jumping over Kate & Claire? i think it was just a smoke man figure just jumping but i cant tell :P

Though when I was slowing it down in virtual dub there's a frame were a face appears in it as it enters the room.

last 10 mins was awesome.

“There’s a war coming” -- Charles Widmore

The best part about that ep was when Caleb Nichol showed up in the sub. Things should start getting interesting meow!

wow the ending of that episode has got me fired up. how many episodes for this season?

If Jim Robinson had a sub the whole time and knew where to send a freighter with a bunch of thugs on it why was he always whining about not being able to get back to the island? ANSWER ME THAT CARLTON AND DAMON!

Jacobs dead now perhaps?

I haven't watched the latest episode yet, so maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think he did know how to get back to the island, cos he didn't know where it was, at least until at the end of season 2 when desmond let the hatch explode. Remember there was those dudes in the snow who were monitoring stuff and saw the explosion? I always figured either those guys were working for Charles Widmore, or he had his daughter's phones bugged or something, and that was when he got the info on where the island was so he could send his freighter full of thugs.

wow the ending of that episode has got me fired up. how many episodes for this season?

16

I find for me personally the eps with Caleb Nichol seem to be the most exciting. He's such a cold smug son of a bitch. I hope he's in every ep from now til the end.

how s*** was teh CGI at the end with the sub and periscope

haha

Cgi is always s*** on this show
they originally weren't gonna do CGI at all and use puppets and s***, they actually shot the pilot like that and it looked even s***ter

That would have been funny seeing Jack and Kate as puppets. Glad they didn't go that way.

Original Polar Bear done on set:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/d/da/BearLaunchFreeze.jpg


Someone convinced the producers that even dodgy CGI would be better than that.

Final CGI Polar Bear:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/1/10/CGBear.jpg

LOL

It looks like someone's just chucked it towards the camera

There are 18 episodes in this season.

They should have just hired the Bundy bear.

Or maybe that was what they were training them for. To sell Bundy.

Woah!

I think i just blew my mind!

you've solved lost, they're actually in bundaberg

I always figured either those guys were working for Charles Widmore, or he had his daughter's phones bugged or something, and that was when he got the info on where the island was so he could send his freighter full of thugs.

those guys were working for penny, she was trying to find the island to find desmond.

also super interesting reveal in the latest ep is that ben linus and his dad, in this other timeline did indeed visit the island. But now im confused in the fact that its deep underwater, what the hell happened?

you know what i still dont understand..

it was eloise hawkings who told jack and ben that locke had to come back to the island dead, correct? so is it just coincidence that smokey has found his body and re-animated it, or was that always meant to happen which would mean that eloise hawkings is bad??? because it needed to be lockes body to get everyone to believe him, coz he was supposed to be the next leader etc

also super interesting reveal in the latest ep is that ben linus and his dad, in this other timeline did indeed visit the island. But now im confused in the fact that its deep underwater, what the hell happened?

Yah I think at first we were meant to think the nuke sank the island. But if the timelines split because of the nuke then the Linus' left the island after 1977 without ever knowing anything about it sinking (or they wouldn't be wondering what would have happened if they stayed). So the island must have sank at some point between 1977 and 2004. I'm guessing we won't know what happened till the finale. Probably Jack's fault.

it was eloise hawkings who told jack and ben that locke had to come back to the island dead, correct? so is it just coincidence that smokey has found his body and re-animated it, or was that always meant to happen which would mean that eloise hawkings is bad??? because it needed to be lockes body to get everyone to believe him, coz he was supposed to be the next leader etc

Maybe, but not necessarily. Smokey said "You have no idea what I had to go through to get here!", and I think we will discover a LOT of people have been manipulated, and a lot of the events of the series were his doing.

I have a theory that Jacob brought Dharma to the island, probably to build that hatch, as part of some ploy to prevent Smokey from being able to do something or other. Smokey manipulated the button pushers to stop pushing the button and get rid of the hatch for some reason. He also would have manipulated Widmore and Ben to wipe out the Dharma initiative.

charles widmore "if youre not back on the island when the war comes, the wrong side is going to win"

does this mean, that if he doesnt kill himself and anti jacob reanimate his corpse, the wrong side (i.e jacob jack hurley etc) will win

this makes charles widmore truely bad?



i agree thermite, but IMHO, the way lost has been played out over the years, if they use the excuse "jacob and anti jacob basically manipulated everyone to do this and that and THAT explains the whole storyline" its a bit of a sucker ending.. i honestly have no real theory/explanation of how this show is going to end, im not even reading any forums about it except for this one, im just watching the show week to week, taking it for face value and trying to nut it out myself.

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Don't worry I always read spoilers for the next ep and the rate at which the spoilers are true is about 1 in 5. And even then people suspect it was just a good guess based on the casting calls for the episode.

charles widmore "if youre not back on the island when the war comes, the wrong side is going to win"

does this mean, that if he doesnt kill himself and anti jacob reanimate his corpse, the wrong side (i.e jacob jack hurley etc) will win

this makes charles widmore truely bad?

No I think Widmore genuinely was trying to keep Locke alive. When Locke told him that Richard said he had to die, Widmore insisted that wasn't true.

if they use the excuse "jacob and anti jacob basically manipulated everyone to do this and that and THAT explains the whole storyline" its a bit of a sucker ending..

That would be somewhat of a cop out, I guess.

I have figured out a massive secret in lost

seriously don't read this

Spoiler:

Smokie is aaron!

Jacob is aaron too, but from the alternate reality, where he doesn't turn out f***ed up

There is s***loads in the whole series and the non-series lost stuff to support this.

those guys were working for penny, she was trying to find the island to find desmond.

But how did penny even know to look for an island? She knew nothing about the island, or that it was full of electromagnetic weirdness, she would have had no idea what to look for. I reckon either those guys worked for Widmore and he was keeping his daughter in the loop, like he was selling her the whole "I'll help you find desmond" type of thing, but really just wanted to find the island himself. Or if they were really working for penny, then I reckon charles would have known about it, cos hes too smooth to not know about f***ing EVERYTHING thats going on, so he would have had a man on the inside or a bug or something, and got that info when penny got it.

We need to send someone to the island to ask all the questions we want to know, I nominate Khel

Nah, there's already a hurly on the island.

ba doom tish

Anyone else notice how Locke's ears are slightly bigger since he's come back as smokey? Wonder if it has anything to do with ancient Egyptians and cats?

Hmm

Hmm so nobody has read my theory? I think it will blow your mind.

Spoiler:

Claire's baby, Aaron, gets raised wrong, and grows up to become evil. At some point he will travel into the past. Aaron becomes the smoke monster (I'm not sure how, but I bet there is a sci-fi explanation for it).

The alternate reality Aaron is raised correctly, however, and he crosses over into our reality, and he becomes Jacob. His powers and ability to influence others are largely due to the fact that he is from a different universe and there is some sort of paradox at play.

There has been way too much importance placed on Aaron in the series, and the ideas about 'bad twins' and kids that gain special powers. That and all the stuff about the importance of proper mothering, and the nature of good and evil.

Now that we are getting more insight into Fake Locke's character, like with him raging at Claire, it seems more and more likely that she is his mother.

It would be an immensely impersonal story if the most important characters on the show were unrelated to the story of the main characters. What I mean by that is that Jacob and his nemesis seem like 11th hour additions to the story, and that is very awkward, and they must tie into the show in terms of the characters we know, and the recurring themes that have been there all along. You don't just bring in a new characters in the last season that are secretly responsible for everything - they must have been in the show all along.

The show is totally character-driven and it doesn't make sense for Jacob and Smokie to be random strangers. This theory makes Christian Shepherd the grandfather of both men, Jack the half-uncle of both men, and Kate the adoptive mother of the show's bad-guy.

You should send that idea off to the writers because they're prolly still working out how to end the show.

Hmm so nobody has read my theory?

You said not to read it?

Spoiler:
Now that we are getting more insight into Fake Locke's character, like with him raging at Claire, it seems more and more likely that she is his mother.

Thats stupid, he is the one that made her crazy in the first place.

next weeks ep should be good and will hopefully answer some questions since its a richard centric episode. the promo hints that he might tell the losties what the island actually is.

Hmm, somehow I doubt that will happen. Someone will ask him and he'll say he can't tell them just yet. And they'll move onto something else since no one really pushes anyone for answers.

8-)

actually i just read that we do find out next week. its a 4 letter word with a 'o' in it.

Nice work Thermite, I was theorizing with a mate today
about the possibility of Smokeys crazy mother being in
fact the crazy Claire.

Highlight of ep was the epic bitch slap she receives
from Smokey. That put a stop to her s***house acting
for a few scenes.

So anyone notice the thing with Sawyer in this latest ep?
We find out he's a detective and he ends up catching Kate
at the end of the ep. But in the first ep of this season
when he is coming out of the elevator at the airport, he
notices Kate beside him wearing handcuffs and he helps her
escape by providing cover. That's weird.

Vague picture with symbolic lost spoiler from a few months back
Ties in with what ravn0s said :P
Spoiler:
Perhaps the island is the buttplug of Earth's a******


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So anyone notice the thing with Sawyer in this latest ep?
We find out he's a detective and he ends up catching Kate
at the end of the ep. But in the first ep of this season
when he is coming out of the elevator at the airport, he
notices Kate beside him wearing handcuffs and he helps her
escape by providing cover. That's weird.

he didnt become a cop to catch criminals. he became a cop so he would have the resources to find the conman that destroyed his family.

Maybe Sawyer did that so he didn't have to explain what he was doing at the airport?

Thats stupid, he is the one that made her crazy in the first place.

That is a pretty good point.
Spoiler:

So maybe another kid ends up being smokie, and he tries to make Jacob/Aaron's mother Claire just as crazy as his own mother, so he becomes evil too.

Or smokie just wants to ensure he will become the evil bastard he is.



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fwoar

epic episode

its all coming together :D

Richard ep lived up to the hype, definitely explained heaps!

yep, though I thought it was a bit stupid when the ship somehow dominated the head of that statue.

Very good episode. A+++++ would buy from again.

it was OK - dunno what the circle jerk over the episode is about though

lol thermite was right about the cork. well done

edit: also nestor carbonells performance was exceptional.


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Great ep! Hope there are a few more like that instead of episodes of no meaning

Check out this, easter egg from the game "Just Cause 2"

Its the Lost Island!

therminte

Spoiler:
It would be an immensely impersonal story if the most important characters on the show were unrelated to the story of the main characters.

Spoiler:
They haven't just dropped characters in, jacob has been around since season 2 or 3... (ben has always gone on about him) and the smoke monster has been around since first ep.. Sure they have changed the characters.. but they have been contributing to to the story for quite some time... it's hardly like they have just dropped them on us hoping we would chew it up as an explanation.

I am aware of that groganus, I know this show quite well, but I still stand by what I said. They are new characters, at least from a certain storytelling perspective.

Also this cork island plug idea is straight out of Joseph Campbell's "Hero with a thousand faces". He even mentions an island as one idea to have a sort of nexus between two worlds - the Axis Mundi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi

So .... we have a monomyth on our hands!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_with_a_Thousand_Faces

Next week's episode is called "The Package".

http://www.lostreview.com/images/evangeline-lilly-nude-ass.jpg

thermite delivers

That pic is asking for a Content-aware Fill ...

I'd fill her with my content.

Disappointed with the ep.

When Richards age is emphasized by Ben as being "very very old", I thought he'd be more than just a hundred odd years old. I kinda wanted him to be ancient.

Also, the Black Rock ship crashing into the top of the statue...wtf...does anyone else feel cheated in that scene? Would have been good to actually see a tsunami lifting the boat 100 mtrs (or so) into the air to crash into the concrete statue and land somewhere in the middle of the island in tact (for the most part).

I remember seeing the ship come to the island at the start of the season on calm waters in the morning. I wonder how many times it has come to the island.

Also, Man in Black (smokey) tells Richard where the statue is and says that Jacob is there. These are the two characters from earlier in the season (Richard and Locke (smokey)) that are approaching the statue to kill Jacob. Richard asks Locke "What's with the statue?", Locke says "That's where Jacob is." Is this a continuity error or is there more to it? They should definitely be aware of each other because of the "Good to see you out of those chains" line.

The producers confirmed early in the show that the Losties are NOT dead or in purgatory. So what the f***?

When Richards age is emphasized by Ben as being "very very old", I thought he'd be more than just a hundred odd years old. I kinda wanted him to be ancient.

It has been apparent for quite some time that Richard came on the Black Rock, and the date of when it went missing was given in an episode about Desmond like 3 years ago.

Also, the Black Rock ship crashing into the top of the statue...wtf...does anyone else feel cheated in that scene? Would have been good to actually see a tsunami lifting the boat 100 mtrs (or so) into the air to crash into the concrete statue and land somewhere in the middle of the island in tact (for the most part).

A little...

I remember seeing the ship come to the island at the start of the season on calm waters in the morning. I wonder how many times it has come to the island.

Yeah I thought that too.

Also, Man in Black (smokey) tells Richard where the statue is and says that Jacob is there. These are the two characters from earlier in the season (Richard and Locke (smokey)) that are approaching the statue to kill Jacob. Richard asks Locke "What's with the statue?", Locke says "That's where Jacob is." Is this a continuity error or is there more to it?

That didn't happen. It was the other way around, Locke was pretending to not know where Jacob was, and Richard was taking him.

The producers confirmed early in the show that the Losties are NOT dead or in purgatory. So what the f***?

What do you mean? They're not. It was made pretty clear by Jacob that they were not dead, nor was it hell.

I remember seeing the ship come to the island at the start of the season on calm waters in the morning. I wonder how many times it has come to the island.

Well thats not necessarily an error, it has been shown leaving by boat is problematic, so they could have arrived, turned around, and then jacob started up the storm and wrecked them.

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/lost_0.jpg

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/lost_1.jpg

lol

haha @ locke wrinkles

Yeah Thermite, my bad. It was the other way around. And Smokey delivered his "Nice to see you outta the chains" line after he'd gained access to Jacob.

I watched again, and Jacob says to Richard that 'hell' is being kept where it belongs by the island.

And with the whole dead/not dead thing, if we are to believe Jacob, the losties are not dead...but if we are to believe Richards wife (who could be 'working' for smokey) the losties are dead.
I just think that if the losties are being tricked into thinking they're dead, it was really stupid for the producers to confirm so early in the show that they are not dead. It's like saying, "one of our future story arcs is not true, but please go along with it and be mystified anyway".

How could they be dead when several of them have left the island before. Duh.

Dude I'm repeating what Isabelle said to Richard.
Yes six of them did leave the island, then they came back and blew up a hydrogen bomb. I think Isabelle is suggesting they died in the explosion.

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Linus has also left the island, So has charles widmore and ellie hawkins, You're saying they're all dead too?

Isabelle didn't say Richard was dead. When Richard said that he wished they were together she said that they were already together.
I took that as meaning he's alive, and she's a ghost but they're both together on the island with each other. It's been pretty well established that Hurley can see and talk to ghosts.

Yeah I didn't actually say they are dead. I just thought the writers were trying to trick us into thinking they could possibly dead and then thought that was ridiculous because of the producers having already confirmed that it is not the case.

Also, at 23:38 into last ep, Isabelle says to Richard, "We're dead, both of us".
And just to reiterate, I don't believe he is dead, nor the losties are dead. And I realise that Hurely can talk to ghosts. Just saying that the writers have thrown the 'dead' equation in to trip us up. Which is stupid.

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This isn't the first time the idea that they're all dead in hell has been mentioned on the show. Remember Anthony Cooper? "little hot for heaven, isn't it?"

You sure when isabelle says that it's not ole' smokey appearing as her?

What Isabella said can't be an attempt by the writers to trip us up because Jacob flat out calls BS later on:

Richard (to Jacob): [MiB] said you are the devil and that the only way I would see my wife again is if I would kill you. I saw her, here, in this place - where is she?
Jacob: That wasn't your wife...

Also, at 23:38 into last ep, Isabelle says to Richard, "We're dead, both of us".

that was smokey pretending to be her. i thought it was fairly obvious.

I finally remember thinking I'd seen that scene were the other prisoner looks through the crack in the ship to see "the devil" ie the statue, were his eyes the same that looked back at Hurley when he looked into the cabin?

were his eyes the same that looked back at Hurley when he looked into the cabin?

Dude that was locke lurking around in Horace's cabin in that episode.

When Richards age is emphasized by Ben as being "very very old", I thought he'd be more than just a hundred odd years old. I kinda wanted him to be ancient.

Yeah, this was my first thought too, especially since in the "previously on Lost" bit at the start it even has Richard saying he has lived longer than you could ever imagine. Americans must have pretty limited imaginations if 150 years is "longer than you could ever imagine".

Also, I'm getting the feeling more and more than the exact nature of the island, and who Jacob and the man in black actually are, is never going to be explained. I think all we're going to be left with is hyperbole and metaphors and a case of "the eternal struggle between good vs evil", with Jacob representing the good and the man in black representing the evil. I always figured Richard would have been like an Aztec or Egyptian or something, and have some connection with the whole good/evil gods angle and explain a whole bunch of s***, but really hes just some guy who washed up on the island and is as clueless as everyone else about whats really going on. So yeah, I reckon we're never going to find out the full details, cos theres no characters left they could use a hook into that background info now.

Different Episode, Hurley walked up to the outside of the cabin, looked in, couldn't see anything, then these eyes look back at him, freaks Hurley & he runs off.

oh right, doubt they'll ever address that

Also, I'm getting the feeling more and more than the exact nature of the island, and who Jacob and the man in black actually are, is never going to be explained. I think all we're going to be left with is hyperbole and metaphors and a case of "the eternal struggle between good vs evil", with Jacob representing the good and the man in black representing the evil. I always figured Richard would have been like an Aztec or Egyptian or something, and have some connection with the whole good/evil gods angle and explain a whole bunch of s***, but really hes just some guy who washed up on the island and is as clueless as everyone else about whats really going on. So yeah, I reckon we're never going to find out the full details, cos theres no characters left they could use a hook into that background info now.

exactly my thoughts... and its worrying

just the way jacob explained to richard about "ppl should make the right decisions, why should I have to influence them" it is sooooooo broad. we really needed " i am this person, im here to stop that person from doing this so THIS doesnt happen"

maybe the numbers still tie in.. and maybe desmond could still tie in, khel. and theyv also got the whole time jump section to use to tie in jacob/mib past stories. there is no f***en waaay they SHOULD do what you're saying, but im getting more and more scared they might :(

plz dont fail us lost writers

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desmond is returning as well as the time constant thingy.

Why would Isabelle be on the island if she didn't die there?

Theres a theory going round that dead people are tied to an object that comes to the island. Like isabelle could have come in the necklace or something.
It's probably more like they come with a person. Like Hurley could be carrying Jacob around in his head ??

there is supposed to be an episode set entiely in 53 a.d, featuring only MIB and jacob.
this should answer who they are and where they come from.

did u notice how jacob torments MIB by offering him fish in the season 5 finale on the beach and then in this ep offered him a drink, knowing he is an effigy and does eat or drink? lol, jacobs a piss taker

if the guy isnt a f***ing alien then i dont know how there gonna explain him and to be honest - i do not believe we will get an explanation, that would really s*** me if they didnt answer what his origins are
ep 14 will explain a lot . think its about jacob n mibs childhood


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yeh thats right lewd, i remember reading that, the ep set in 53 ad should explain a lot~

there is supposed to be an episode set entiely in 53 a.d, featuring only MIB and jacob.

thats probably ep15 since none of the losties are appearing in the ep.

Umm... guys, like many shows the writers were making up the story as they were going along.

This means:

1. There will be inconsistencies
2. There will be plot holes

Just enjoy the show and stop micro-analysing.

They might be writing the scripts and specifics of the episodic stories as they go, but I believe by the start of Season 3 they had the whole plot and all the 'secrets' locked in. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some ideas about the nature of the monster and island when they wrote the pilot. Especially if my Joseph Campbell theory from above is true, which it probably is if they are screen writers.

but I believe by the start of Season 3 they had the whole plot and all the 'secrets' locked in. I wouldn't be surprised if ...

Sounds like pure speculation to me?

when they announced a finishing date for the show (i think during season 3) they said they had the rest of the show planned out.

Just enjoy the show and stop micro-analysing

dumbest comment in a lost thread ever.

they knew exactly where the show was going, they answered it countless times in interviews and s***.

in other news, just watched ep 10

and all i can say is

Spoiler:
f***ING DESMOND IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

AWESOME episode

I wish they could find an excuse to bring Daniel Faraday back, he was my favourite character :(

Sounds like pure speculation to me?

The "I wouldn't be surprised" bit was, but I "believe" was based on interviews and podcasts with Damon and Carlton from years ago.

As much as Daniel Faraday was a cool and mysterious character, at this stage I hope they're not wasting time on anything unrelated to wrapping up the story.

So desmond is the secret weapon eh.. wonder what they'll have him do.

I wish they could find an excuse to bring Daniel Faraday back, he was my favourite character

Same here, Khel. For such a good character they really shafted him by such a stupid death.

Me too, he was my favourite character too, and I have no idea why they had to kill him off so abruptly!

Various killed-off characters will be and have been back in the alternate reality. No idea if Faraday will be though.

the whole faraday time loop with his mother and her sending him there knowing she was going to kill him but forced him to go anyway was prob my favourite concept of the whole season

that aspect of the show is what has me completely by the balls

guys, im confused on the show at the moment. i sorta lost track about what is happening at some point.
We saw jacob's nemesis off the island as some boss guy, gets shot by sayid, and sun and jin are seeing each other without the blessing of her father,

what alternate reality is this again? Is it the future if they never went the island? They are flash forwards or something?
cheers for the clarification.

No no no, that wasn't Jacob's Nemesis (The Man In Black as he's being called) that was Martin Keamy (Played by Kevin Durand), the ex-marine that Widmore hired to kill Ben Linus (he instead killed Ben's daughter) a couple seasons ago (In the timeline/reality that most of the show has been set). He seems to be some kind of mobster/hitman in the alternate reality. Unless you mean the Russian guy, Mikhail, who was one of Ben Linus' guys on the island (wearing an eye patch).

The show has not explained what exactly the alternate reality is. All we know is the island has sunk under the ocean sometime between 1977 and 2004, the plane didn't crash in 2004 (which is when these alternate reality scenes appear to be set), and the character's lives have been significantly different there. It seems likely that it is what their lives would be without Jacob's manipulation.



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I have to say, I'm completely uninterested in the flash-parallels. Completely random and too coincidental (all the characters keep bumping into each other).

However I loved the future flashes of Season 4.

ahh i thought that mob guy was the MIB, they looked similar.
interesting. good to know i wasnt missing too much.
so theres about 12-14 episodes to go?

lol no, only 7 to go. last ep is double episode so actually 8 eps.

Apparently it will be a triple episode finale.
source: http://www.hollywood.com/news/Lost_Finale_30_Second_Spots_Said_to_Go_for_900k/6836987

^the first hour might be a recap ep before the final 2 episodes because everywhere else is saying 2 hr finale.

I've got some theories on Desmond

You know how he was the constant, well what if he is the constant between the two realities. Remember how he popped in to that plane and then disappeared in the season premiere? Maybe Widmore had to send him there on a mission?

As to why he's like this, maybe it's because he's the only one left that sat in that hatch for so long near the pocket of energy, probably did something to his prostate too.

So desmond is the secret weapon eh.. wonder what they'll have him do.

go back in time and press the buttons so the plane dont crash.
thats what charles whitmore will try and have him do
that chick desmond used to hang with once said to him
'the most important thing you will do in your life is press those buttons'

http://overexpose.net/prints/LockeSith.jpg

lol

hahaha nice one......

Todays episode was f***ing awesome.
Desmond is probably my favorite character, and the desmond episodes dont fail to impress.

Another awesome Desmond episode. Cool bananas!

I have to say, I'm completely uninterested in the flash-parallels. Completely random and too coincidental (all the characters keep bumping into each other).

However I loved the future flashes of Season 4.

todays episode was ground breaking, watch it and your views will completely change on the flash paralells

holy f***ing s*** that was so amazing

vash I dont understand how charlie knew to let him know and get the ball rolling sort of thing, but holy s*** this is awesome

epic epic epic episode, everyone really watch it asap

Charlie said when the plane hit turbulence, he got flashes when he swallowed the heroin bag, i think when their faced with close connections to the island universe, they get flashes.
Indeed, an epic episode.

Yep brilliant episode

When Desmond was sat in that strapped wooden chair I thought they were about to reveal that he was the one saying "Help Me" to Locke in the Cabin, but alas no, I was well teased with that :)

Interesting episode none the less.

Another great Desmond ep! And Faraday is back yay

Charlie said when the plane hit turbulence, he got flashes when he swallowed the heroin bag, i think when their faced with close connections to the island universe, they get flashes.
Indeed, an epic episode.

yeah, makes sense!

i hope desmond rounds up everyone off the plane, and they realise there is some form of unfinished business or some sorta leet s***.

also, as per usual eloise hawkings seems to fking know what the hell is going on!! HOW!!!! does charles know? what was ben linus' paralell story? this makes all the paralell stories so much more meaningful now

Well I think we can assume Eloise has all her memories from the end of Season 5, when she shot Faraday. She helped set that bomb off.

Yeah I think Desmond will round everyone up - but does he need to bring them all to the brink of death? hehe

what was ben linus' paralell story?

I think his story was some sort of metaphor for what's going on with the island regarding the leaders.

He was a teacher at a high school, and Locke, the substitute, tells Ben he should become the principal.

On the island Jacob is dead and Locke is the only one in charge, he told Ben he should become the leader of the island after he's gone.




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When Desmond was sat in that strapped wooden chair I thought they were about to reveal that he was the one saying "Help Me" to Locke in the Cabin, but alas no, I was well teased with that :)

Didn't they already establish that it was the smoke monster.

Nope

I wish they could find an excuse to bring Daniel Faraday back, he was my favourite character :(

As much as Daniel Faraday was a cool and mysterious character, at this stage I hope they're not wasting time on anything unrelated to wrapping up the story.

Awesome, we both got what we wanted. :D

so lost is a love story?

Remember later that the shack had the ash around it. Who else would say "help me?" Locke said it wasn't Jacob.

That ash could have been to keep smokie away. I really hope Christian Shephard turns out to be a different guy to smokie. Preferably Christian Shephard himself. Besides, wasn't smokie running around the island terrorising the losties?

Check out tonight's ep, just before the 6 minute mark. The moment the guy tying desmond up says "You don't have any metal on you?" he looks and sounds just like Jack, just briefly. And then Widmore's reponse "Course he doesn't you idiot" he sounds like Locke. Might be nothing to it, but it might be deliberate?

Guys that shack stuff happened several seasons ago, before they had anything resembling a cohesive plot.

Don't read into it too much, don't do it ... !

That was brilliant. Ok so just wondering if anyone thought the last bit of that ep was a bit off? Could it be that when Desmond decided to follow Sayid into the jungle, the alt timeline changed/continued?
Was thinking that maybe if he didn't go with Sayid and instead fought to stay with Widmore, maybe the alt timeline would be different eg. he vanishes right in front of Penny (like he seemingly did on the flight).
It definitely appears that Desmond is aware of his flashes to and fro now, because he wants to show 'him' the manifest from the plane. I assume 'him' is Widmore and I assume he'll want to show him when he flashes black to the island.

because he wants to show 'him' the manifest from the plane.

I'm pretty sure he says 'I just need to show them something', as in show the passengers on the manifest how to have the flashbacks that Charlie showed Desmond, not show Widmore anything.

he didnt vanish, he fainted. also he didnt say he wanted to show anyone the manifest. he said he wanted to show the people on the flight what their life should really be.

So they're doing a second version of someone rounding up Losties to go back to the island. But using Desmond because he's a cooler character than Jack.

well they cant really go to the island in the alternate universe since its underwater and all.

"show THEM something", right got it.
Yea I know Desmond didn't vanish, he just fainted. I was just wondering if he decided not to go with Sayid would that change the alternate timeline. Like the choices you make on the island, changes the course of time in the alt timline.

just watched ep again

i have a rock hard solid raging boner.

BRING ON NEXT EP.

Next, a Hurley episode.

Hey at least we won't have any more Sun and Jin episodes.

They are sooooo boring, as most of us can't relate to the family/social-class/business/pregnancy issues since we are not Korean/azn/pregnant/.

But thats what makes those episodes interesting...
I find Asian culture fascinating.

Yeah I don't care much from the Sun and Jin plot. Maybe when the show wraps up it will be more interesting in retrospect, but at this point I don't even give a toss if they find each other again.

I am far more interested in Rose and Bernard, I f***en lost it when they first found each other on the island.

I've got a feeling there will be a twist with Rose. You know back in the first ep (?) where she was all quiet sitting there alone, she'd realised her cancer was gone, she has some kind of connection with the island. There's gotta be more to this.



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I've always thought that Rose and Bernard would turn out to be the Adam and Eve dead bodies that they found in the cave in season 1.

So I was thinking, could the alternate reality be the reality that happens if the man in black makes it off the island? There seems to be this recurring theme of people getting their desires and their life being "better", and then realising that they aren't actually happy and their lives have turned out kind of hollow. Seems like something a devious, evil smoke monster would pull!

Also, a couple of episodes ago, when Widmore is talking to Jin about what will happen if the man in black gets off the island, its not like a "hell on earth" type apocalypse scenario he paints, he just says that the people they know and love will just blink out of existence and cease to exist. Kind of like reality would change and the people we currently know, will have never existed and will have lead completely different lives?

I dunno, I don't read all the Lost websites and stuff, this is just something that occured to me while I was watching, could be completely wrong :P

Libby!
:D

(also, Ka-BOOM! hahaha)

Awesome episode.

khel thats what people have been speculating since the beginning of this season.


lol @ alana getting gibbed like arzt from a few seasons ago.

Haha, about time that silly bitch died.

Hah "that dynamite is unstable" queue the stupid bitch shoving other crap in her bag then slamming it on the ground.

I thought Desmond injured Locke so that when Locke was taken to Jack's hospital, Jack would repair Locke's spine and Locke would walk again like Jack offered.

It looked to me like when locke looked up he remembered the island, straight after the plane crashed.

I wonder if Locke will 'remember' that he becomes the villain and then be conflicted about what to do about that.

what frak said. they see the memories from the other reality when they either meet their true love or they are in a life or death situation.

yup . when desmond went to run him over i thought exactly the same, desmond isnt literally going to destroy him on the island, more so 'make him remember' that hes dead in his alt time line or something along those lines which will cause him to drop dead in lost island time which will render smokie useless

something like that

f***ing AWESSSSSSOMEEE EPISODE

the whole ep when hurley and libby were on scene i was screaming at the scream "REMEMBER U f***.. REMEMBER!!!" and then they kissed and i was like MOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHERf***KKKER!!

holy s*** i love this show

Personally i think this show should have died when they GOT OFF THE BLOODY ISLAND! That or when Merry died :'( either way this show has lasted long past its used by date and i'm glad it is ending, although that said i do feel bad for all the millions of people that actually think this show is good so heres hoping for you millions that it continues :)

Hopefully it will all be a dream

Very cool ep and Libby came back yay! And another tiny thing explained - the whispering voices. Although that definitely felt made up as opposed to thought out from the start.

cause him to drop dead in lost island time which will render smokie useless

erm lockes already dead in lost island time.

I assumed Desmond was trying to kill Locke because hes trying to make things with the Losties to be the same as they are in the "real" timeline, and in the real timeline Locke is dead. But yeah, I guess he could just be trying to jumpstart Locke's memories with the near death thing too.

Although that definitely felt made up as opposed to thought out from the start.

Yeah, I kinda thought the same, I mean I liked the explanation, I'm happy enough with it, but the whispering voices have been around since the first season and I doubt that was the explanation they had in mind all along.

Also, f*** them with their teases about the Island, Richard DOES know what it is, the f***er. Here I was thinking we weren't going to get anymore juicy info out of Richard, then he drops that s***. Not cool Richard, not cool.

Also, f*** them with their teases about the Island, Richard DOES know what it is, the f***er. Here I was thinking we weren't going to get anymore juicy info out of Richard, then he drops that s***. Not cool Richard, not cool.

Nah, I thought that came across as completely fake and that Richard was bulls***ting his way through what they needed to do.
Why have a complete episode not that long ago that highlighted Richard's crisis of confidence because he was in the dark just like everyone else?

Or I guess he could have just been talking about that cork metaphor, which would be equally unsatisfying.

Pretty sure richard was just referring to the scene we saw a few eps ago with the cork.

I was also hoping for a better explanation for the voices in the jungle. Dead people is a little cliche.


Also I think Richard, Ben, and Miles are f***ed. I bet they'll get smoked. Well maybe not Ben.

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I assumed Desmond was trying to kill Locke because hes trying to make things with the Losties to be the same as they are in the "real" timeline, and in the real timeline Locke is dead. But yeah, I guess he could just be trying to jumpstart Locke's memories with the near death thing too.

in the 'real' timeline, desmond doenst know that locke is dead. when smokie says to him when hes tied up "do u know who i am" he says " of course, youre john locke" so that theory doesnt work.

The ep where des remembered his love for penny etc, he was actually blanking out in 1 time line when he was conscious in the other. i am thinking he has now 'blanked' out when hes down the well, and the very next scene is him in the other time line, and hes killing john locke cause he threw him down a well. rewatch the penny and des scenes and the scene where they zap him with the electromagnetic s***, and unlike all the other flash backs, when des flashes from 1 time line to another, its in real time, ie hes either in 1 timeline or the other, like when he was time travelling. Maybe he isnt even 'remembering' its just him time jumping consciously again. actually that makes alot more sense (since he passes out in front of penny when he jumps back to island time line)

this next ep is gonna be amazzzzzzzzzzing.

finkle is einhorn
einhorn is finkle!

I thought Desmond ran over Locke to "introduce" him to Jack.

oh my GOD! Einhorn is a MAN!?!

What a s***ty ending to the series: {spoiler} Loch escape from the islan which is hidden in a volcano an he threatens air travel in Europe

http://images.smh.com.au/2010/04/16/1329963/gall_volcano_top-600x400.jpg

Hahaha natslovr

http://i.imgur.com/rtn9c.gif

hahaha python wins

So its been revealed that it was Smokey who was Christian Shepard at the start of the show. Just curious, can anyone remember when Jack saw his dead father in the hospital he worked at, after he fixed the supposedly broken smoke detector. But now they're saying that Smokey couldn't have left the island.

Oops?

or he was lying about being christian, but i doubt it.


also no lost next week :(

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no lost next week are you f***ing kiddding?

also pretty s*** ep

desmond obviously isnt dead and talked sayid out of it..

the ep was called " the last recruit" surely jack isnt lockes recruit now.

f*** up smokie widmore!!!

I just watched a Seinfeld episode with Jinn in it.

Desmond is NOT trying to kill them.

He is bringing people close to death so that they get a vision of their life in the other time stream.
They need to be brought close to death or be given a very strong emotional event that matches one in their other timeline such as Hurley kissing that chick.

He is probably trying to get Shephard and Locke to kiss.

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/lost_a.jpg

Can someone tell me why there was C4 on the plane? Smokey's explanation of wiping them out while they're together made sense at the time, except when you consider he had the same plan (according to Jack). Surely Widmore and Locke would have opposite plans?

maybe widmore intended to blow it up before they got on it.


QQ jin, sun and sayid :(

Can someone tell me why there was C4 on the plane? Smokey's explanation of wiping them out while they're together made sense at the time, except when you consider he had the same plan (according to Jack). Surely Widmore and Locke would have opposite plans?

Well maybe he manipulated widmore by letting some info slip through sawyer, expecting he would try to pull something like that?
Not sure... but he did seem a step ahead of everyone.

im guessing desmond told sayid everything that is going to happen which made sayid change back to the good side. also i think sayids last words "because its going to be you jack" are a pretty big hint that jacks going to be the next jacob.


also next weeks ep is the non-losties ep and sounds like its going to be interesting.

so tell me why does smokey want them all dead? And now they all didn't die together what now?

Good ep. I just accidentally flicked on channel 7 and they are running the current episode. So that's pretty good, same day as US screening.

They caught up because of the one week break.

Thank god Jin and Sun are gone. Actually, I didn't mind Jin but Sun was such a whiny character.

Aww pity the pilot died, I liked his character. Always kinda sad to see any Lostie die now because we've been through so much with them.

so tell me why does smokey want them all dead? And now they all didn't die together what now?

He wants them dead so he can leave the island, but he can't kill them himself so they have to die by each other's hand instead. So now I'm guessing he'll try and figure out other ways to get them to die.

Yeah, Jeff Fahey's character was one of the best on there. He should have made it till the end.

"awwww, hell" best last words ever

He wants them dead so he can leave the island, but he can't kill them himself so they have to die by each other's hand instead.

So why didn't he just let them fire up the plane + C4?

Also I thought if an action a candidate was about to take (killing someone else) would cause self-death too, then it wouldn't occur ...


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That was a pretty selfish move on Jin's behalf though, I mean he could have left Sun and saved himself and at least his daughter would have 1 parent, now shes an orphan. GG.

Did that sub have weapons? Like could it shoot torpedos? Should have shot the bomb out a torpedo tube imo.

i never understand these suicide/kamikazi/omg save everyone sacrifice myself things.

Sayid could have just thrown the bomb instead of running in with it.

Jin should have escaped. Sun was ok with it. And yeah, they have a daughter.

Yeah that's what I thought sayid was going to do khel, then suddenly it was a zero anyway >_>