When Left 4 Dead 2 will go live at Valve HQ:

# Tuesday, November 17th, 12:00 AM (midnight) Eastern Standard Time

Which translates to:

# Monday, November 16th, 9:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
# Monday, November 16th, 10:00 PM Mountain Standard Time
# Monday, November 16th, 11:00 PM Central Standard Time
# Tuesday, November 17th, 12:00 AM (midnight) Eastern Standard Time
# Tuesday, November 17th, 5:00 AM Greenwich Mean Time
# Tuesday, November 17th, 8:00 AM Moscow Time
# Tuesday, November 17th, 2:00 PM Japan Standard Time

So which one are we?

http://steamcommunity.com/games/L4D2

Just use the official community page to find out lulz.
>>> upcoming events >>>> Left 4 Dead 2 Release Day! November 17 @ 04:00pm (unsure if that is sydney or bris time, probably briz

ahh thanks ctd I didn't know you could do this.

Brisbane is +10 GMT. So take GMT, and add 10 hours, and that's Brisbane time. Add one more hour to get Syd/Melb time, for those cities that are in a real time zone

Why the f*** do big organisations keep using US-centric PST and EST when they are releasing content that they know will definitely be seen/used by an international audience?

NASA does it too for launches, and I generally have to dig through to find a UTC/GMT quote on their mission site or find an online time-zone converter. GMT is s*** easy to convert for everyone. Please use it, arg@#%@^

so 3pm november 17 here?

so 3pm November 17 here?

Why the f*** do big organisations keep using US-centric PST and EST when they are releasing content that they know will definitely be seen/used by an international audience?

Same reason why America keeps using United States Customary units (almost Imperial Units), because they are American.

This thread is full of sad.

EST

These timezones are so confusing because here in Australia we also use EST for E(astern) S(ummer) T(ime), which is often confused with AEST. Then there's E(astern) D(aylight) T(time).

Why cant they just release games on the day it says. Bugger wether it's in the US or not but when its 17th here, it should unlock. Then when it clicks over for them it should unlock then. We always have to f***ing wait for them.

Wait L4D2 isnt even out yet? What the hell was the big fuss about then... the demo?

Are you s***ting me?

nope
I am not to s*** on you

Why the f*** do big organisations keep using US-centric PST and EST when they are releasing content that they know will definitely be seen/used by an international audience?

NASA does it too for launches, and I generally have to dig through to find a UTC/GMT quote on their mission site or find an online time-zone converter. GMT is s*** easy to convert for everyone. Please use it, arg@#%@^

Yep. It's f***ing annoying. They've been doing it for years and years and years, too. It happens a lot on the server lists I'm on, and every time I try to reply smarmily and pointing out that if they don't include a timezone then we'll release it on AU time, which of course means we'll often be 10 or more hours earlier than they've planned.

This has actually happened several times with big file releases, too. We've dealt with the Australian publishers to organise releases and they give us a time and forget to check the time zone. We release the file, make a big noise about it, then 30 minutes later we're forwarded this massive email trail starting at the US publishers say "hey how did this AusGamers mob get these files and why are they releasing them now?!?!!?", and ending at the Australian publisher begging us to take them down.

It really highlights the US-centric focus of these companies and the fact that they have not yet dragged their ass into the Internet age.

Do you usually comply with the request or tell them to get lost?

Do you usually comply with the request or tell them to get lost?

We usually comply; we want to stay on their good sides.

Wondering how unlocking will go for people that have a US version. Will it f*** up and try and unlock/download parts for the aussie version and thus fuxor our uncensored copy?

No, because they're treated as completely separate products. Just because it uses the same files, its a different game as far as Steam is concerned.

good

Not worth making a new thread over, but appears L4D2 got released early in the states & some person was nice enough to record all of the campaigns:

http://www.youtube.com/user/mystrsangel. There's some crappy machinima there too, but there's also playthroughs of each chapter (from what I can tell).

yer it was leaked on 360 last week. thats why the player looks like a f***ing noob.

Console FPS. Need more said? ;)

I'd have a look but the first play through on campaign is leeet.

Speaking of, I need like 2-3 internet friends for an expert run through tomorrow night:D:D Can't wait. Where's strex loki and rubbachicken ;-P

Looks like being between 4-5pm AEST. Or another 21 hours.Should be a blast!

http://steamcommunity.com/games/L4D2/events/54193792418304820 shown in your local time zone (may need to refresh the page one time after loading).

4pm melbourne time today.

i heard this game is a console port.

Preloading now via Steamwatch/3FL, cranking along at 700k/s in freezone.

Can't wait to check out VS. tonight, sucks getting home from work so late.

Oh hi there guys!

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5329/left4deadxover.jpg

GOD YOU ARE s*** STEAM.

Paused the preload now I can't get it to resume.

so i know ppl going to the uk in a few weeks.. can i play a uk xbox 360 game on my xbox here..? i have done some research.. uk = pal, dvd region 4.. we the same.. any thought?

Yeah, it will work. I bought Rock Band 2 for XBOX from the UK and it was fine. Pity the game is f***ing s*** though.

edit: uk is NOT region 4 they are region 2

Was rock band region free? i believe some games are region coded and some arnt...

I just had a look at the cover and it had PAL on it so I don't think it would be an issue. I didn't buy any special copy, just ordered it online from a UK game shop.

big news: the icon in the steam games list has changed, massive update.

that pic's fake darkjedi

I just noticed that, what was the update though?

Bloody work, my shift starts RIGHT when it's released, will have to hammer it tonight.

so is it released?

Edit: 1 hour to go

last edited by TiT at 15:22:46 17/Nov/09

So my uncensored L4D2 just unlocked, and the first thing it did was download a patch. I'm really hoping that wasn't a last minute patch to censor it :(

Edit: ok, it didn't unlock, its still locked, just downloaded a patch.

not one hour ago, now

4pm sydney time

Still locked. Gunna check out the steam forums to lol at the spaz outs.

edit: must be fairly good because I can't even load the forum page. (slowly loads)

last edited by ctd at 16:12:31 17/Nov/09

Yep, 10 past 4, still locked. Lame :(

Forums are mysteriously down. Way to avoid 1000s of "ITS NOT UNLOCKED ZOMG" posts at once

EDIT - something about a 2 hour delay perhaps?

last edited by DM at 16:22:17 17/Nov/09

Forums aren't down for me, just incredibly slow, I'm figuring they're getting hammered by irate consumers.

yo ctd.. lets rock.

Hurry up! I WANNA PLAY!

leaving work now :)

Apparantlly they found a game crashing bug at the last moment. fixed it they think but testing it. who knows when it'll be released

It's unlocking! Weeeee

my decrypting window kept going away, had to restart steam to make it continue decrypting

48%

My decrypting is done, now its stuck on "Download Starting"

But it aint starting :/

Getting an install error after decrypt, trying a verify cache now. Also notice in the properties of L4D2 it has a DLC tab now. OOerrrr conspiracy.

i'm in w00t!

Yeah, I get the error too, "Incomplete Installation". Owned.

Edit: Never mind, restarting steam fixed it.

last edited by Khel at 17:39:53 17/Nov/09

I had the Incomplete Install error but running it again fixed it.

*\Steam\SteamApps\common\left 4 dead 2\left4dead2.exe

I just ran that & it worked :) So if your sitting at "Download Starting", try that

haha well you can play signle player that way, was in a multiplayer game for 15 seconds before being booted by "cannot sync to steam" message

dang :)

ok cancel the single player bit to, just took a little longer that time

GuV hacks fail

so is there a workaround yet for the poor souls that bought the censored version?

mines stuck on scanning for game updates :(

Played through the first campaign just then. So much better than l4d1 campaigns. Amazing what a bit of variety will do.

Cool part where you go into this dudes gun shop and he has all the s*** you need but you need to give him a 6 pack of cola before he lets you pass? wtf :P

stuck on 99% :/

Cool, this piece of s*** releasing totally broke my entire steam.
Stuck on 'Scanning for Games Updates'.... forever.
Wasn't even planning on playing the thing just yet.
deleting .blob files yields no luk>
GG Valve.

Yeah, just played through the first campaign, the finale was awesome, no just hunkering down in a corner and shoot stuff till the time is up, its way more mobile and you never feel safe. The area is so big and open and s*** is just coming from every direction, great improvement.

not a fan of the tunnel of love map

I keep getting pwned by random team mates, got through 3/5 on expert parish campaign and they all leave and the server dies. f***.

Need e-mates.

Well, I'd offer to play with you CTD, except they decided to break steam :/
Only 44 minutes to copy my steam directory elsewhere on my HDD (nearly 100gb worth) so I can retinstall and re-copy it back and see if THAT fixes it.

So, see you in maybe 4 hours.

asdlfjkfjka valve.

i will be back in soon. just ordered pizza with the new dominos iphone app. geek on!

1st campaign took me 2 hours to do and was just so f***ing epic. Got to 2nd level in next campaign but I had to stop as i'm packing for melbourne for 2 weeks tomorrow. What timing eh?

Stuck on 'Scanning for Games Updates'.... forever.

that happened to me, but it eventually righted itself after 15mins

ok cool, ill get some dinners.

hey needle dicks how do i get the proper un censored version? or am i too late:(

ok so important question....


Those who purchased the uncut version, is it still uncut or do we need to load up steam in a proxy/vpn?

how do i get the proper un censored version? or am i too late:(

Buy it through steam via a VPN
http://anonymitynetwork.com/
Once it is purchased, log out of vpn and download normally.

is it still uncut

yes

Those who purchased the uncut version, is it still uncut or do we need to load up steam in a proxy/vpn?

its uncut. intro movie is uncut too.

I've held out purchasing the uncut version pre-reelease, just in case valve started handing out bans for breaking EULA.

Seems pretty safe now though.

anyone else having problems with the game freezing? mines done is 3 times now forcing me to reset the computer each time.

Played the carnival campaign versus and the swamp one co-op. This game just smashes l4d1 in every way. Amazing what an extra year of development can do :P

anyone else having problems with the game freezing? mines done is 3 times now forcing me to reset the computer each time.

There was a issue where pplz game would freeze when special infected would spawn. Not sure if its what you are getting but the work around was to run it in low violence mode, and to fix it permanently one would need to delete and re-download l4d2

valve guy told me to install the nvidia beta drivers. hopefully that fixes it. f*** off downloading it again.

WTF... i just attempted the buying through VPN via Steam UK but its says on the UK site L4D2 is not being released till 20th Nov! ?!

Is this right?

Can i apply the same strategy the same thing through the US site?

Can i apply the same strategy the same thing through the US site?

yes

When I go to purchase, it asks for my Payment method and billing information...

I've got no choice but to put in my Australian address here with my credit card information I gather. Will this cock it up? Or do i just uncheck the box "I currently live in the country selected above" ?

got a weird issue
, my version of the game was the UK version, for some reason i have got access to it but it boots me out of the game after paying for a while stating "no steam login" even though i am using steam

anyone got any ideas?

nat: just enter some US address and leave the checkbox checked

dryden: that just happens with steam sometimes, presumably when it's busy

yeah steam has been f***ed this morning. unable to load mw2 at all with a steam is too busy to process your request error

Man, that chainsaw does mega damage. I was thinking it's way too powerful and then suddenly it ran outta fuel. Really liking the game so far. Couldn't play it though if it didn't have full gore, especially that bit in the shop grabbing the six pack and there's an endless stream of zombies running in because of the alarm. f***ing dead bodies everywhere.

yep this game surpasses the original in every which way. just loving it.

looks like the nvidia beta drivers fixed my freezing issue. played for over an hour without it freezing.

I can't keep up with these posts/threads.

Someone mentioned a while back that playing the uncensored version on a server with players who have the censored version causes a change in some way. Is this the case? Or will there be no difference playing an o/seas version on an aussie server?

I love the levels. There is so much more to explore in them. This definately s***s all over the first one, and then some.

I love the melee weapons. So much carnage! The characters are great too. Ellis and Coach <3

Anyone played the carnival games in Dark Carnival?

I can't keep up with these posts/threads.

Someone mentioned a while back that playing the uncensored version on a server with players who have the censored version causes a change in some way. Is this the case? Or will there be no difference playing an o/seas version on an aussie server?

There's no diff. We had 3 ppl with the UK/US version and 1 with the AU ver last night, we had all the gore and the guy with the AU copy just complained the whole time.

afaik if a censored player joins a server riot cops will no longer spawn for anyone on the server

afaik if a censored player joins a server riot cops will no longer spawn for anyone on the server

i read thats been changed and that riot cops are still there even if an AU version is on the server.

Buy it through steam via a VPN
http://anonymitynetwork.com/
Once it is purchased, log out of vpn and download normally.

hahaha

as soon as I closed that VPN proggy Steam won't download the @#$% game. Started up the VPN and she's all good again :/


gonna have to fiddle around with it some more methinks

Buy it through steam via a VPN
http://anonymitynetwork.com/
Once it is purchased, log out of vpn and download normally.

hahaha

as soon as I closed that VPN proggy Steam won't download the @#$% game. Started up the VPN and she's all good again :/


gonna have to fiddle around with it some more methinks

close the vpn and restart steam? worked for me

Yeah restart steam then download.

Yeah, its definitely a good improvement on #1. I love the 8-player versus mode called 'Scavanger Hunt' (or something like that, mine is not in English so not sure proper translation). You have 1m30s to find as many Jerry cans to fill the Genny with as you can. Each time you put a Jerry in the Genny you get more time. Then when you eventually die, the other team has to beat your number of Jerry's. It's really awesome. I haven't seen a team get to the maximum 16 cans yet - highest we had last night, and we were getting pwned, was 9 cans.

btw. You don't need VPN for those that are using that method.

close the vpn and restart steam? worked for me

nah no go.

sorted it now: Steam was set to use NSW-Internode server. Switched it over to a random American one and she's pumping it down now

O damn it!

I downloaded it with the last of my quota, using 3fl for most of it (un-metered for me). However it used some of my quota I guess it didn't download it entirally from 3fl.

So I noticed some of the textures where bodgy, did a scan of the files and 6 failed. So steam started to download it. I thought, wait I'll setup steamwatch, so I tell Steam to pause downloading.

I download and install steamwatch, go check Steam and OMG it was in 'download stopping' mode and had downloaded the 6 files, arg. I have maybe 500 megs left of quota until Friday lol.

Steamwatch is trouble.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~chapman.j/

Even when I closed steam watch it would hang around in my processes and reappear after every restart even though I disabled it.

At least if you run out of cap 3fl has a 100s of servers set up.

I still don't get why they don't have ai controlled zombies. vs is f***ed when you've only got 3 players

Is it just me, or is the AI worse in this than the first one? Maybe its just because the levels are more complicated and theres more stuff now, but the AI hasn't advanced at all, but it feels really, REALLY dumb. Was playing lats night with 3 of us and a bot, doing the campaign, and the bot was just utterly spastic. They seem completely incapable of keeping up with you during the gauntlet "Oh s***, run run run" type parts, and half the time they just seem to spaz out and run off completely separate from the rest of the group.

Once we got a fourth person in there though and f***ed off the bot, it was fantastic.

Yeah bot teammates are completely useless.

Bots are definitely spastic in L4D2.

I pretty much play VS. exclusively and I'm very happy with L4D2. Survivors are getting absolutely owned every single map (rarely finishing) and playing as infected is a blast. I love when players resort to L4D1 tactics and camp out a room/corner and you get a good spit in and all hell breaks loose. Seen some incredibly skillful jockey situations too, very fun... incredibly stupid jump though that's frustrating at times, got to stop treating it like a hunter.

My gripe atm is the deep water/ferry bit (believe it's in the swamp campaign), since when does water instantly kill you? A charger catches you and BAM, there goes a teammate, that section is very dodgey. What's even MORE spastic is the water kills special infected IN INVISIBLE MODE!!! WHAT THE f***.

Also chainsaw FTMFW!

ive only finished one map as survivor in versus. every other map we are dead by half point.

also does anyone know how to get rid of that s***ty box showing you how to attack as infected when youre trying to spawn?

So if you bought the australian version online through steam, there is no way to uncensor it?

(i was using the '590' thing but it stoped working after an update and assumed valve were onto it?)

cheers

I find the Special Infected AI to be good. Was having a play today when a friend mentioned that the spec.infected AI was good, then mentioned how crap the survivor AI is.

They are pretty dumb. In one part 3 of us Humans came across a witch, we were discussing the best way around when BAM! the AI just ran up to it..

ok so


1. I dont need to use the VPN thing?
2. I can just go to http://store.steampowered.com/cc=us, and buy the game from there.
3. can i then still download the game from an australian telstra server? or do i have to DL from some gayzor american server

tyvm for help

I bought mine from the cc=uk link and it downloaded from 3fl mostly.

I haven't used the cc=us thing, so I can't comment on that, but once you've bought it you can definitely download from an australian server. I bought the US version with a vpn and downloaded from internode and its all sweet.

wtb clued team mates in the versus and scavenge servers plz. Also f*** yeah the bots seem worse this time around, you got no chance completing expert with a bot. In the rain campaign we had bots constantly running into witches randomly.

khel isnt cc=us the us version? where did you get your us version on

i rly hope steam arent peeping on this thread or we are all bannT

thx for help toll and khel

lets have an oldsk00l qgl lan sometime

I just tried a new program that turns off the censorship and I tell ya it is heaps better with full gore and dismemberment.

khel isnt cc=us the us version? where did you get your us version on

Yeah, cc=us is the US version, same version I got, I just did it through a VPN so I got no personal experience with how the cc=us process works. But theres people who've done it, and it works, and its heaps simpler than using a VPN, so I'd say go for it.

Only thing you have to make sure of, is when it comes time to put in your billing details, you change the country to US, and stick in a valid US state and postcode (the rest of your billing details can stay the same). Also I think you gotta pay by credit card, cos paypal spazzes out.

Whats the program to remove the censorship from the Au version?

Survivor AI is just so f***ing s***, completely ruins ANY online game that's not 8/8.

It's just so incredibly unbalanced at 7/8 that it's not worth playing.

I really need to find some L4D pugs or something, because these pub games are making me rage so goddamn hard.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHH

I can jump onto my favourite TF2 server and blast out 3 hours of gaming, but I can't go 5 minutes without a bunch of s***c***s leaving and ruining my L4D2 game.

Pretty much, a bot ruins any game - whether you are playing campaign, versus, scavenge.

Scavenge mode is f***en awesome when you get 8 players in. So awesome + it doesn't last 10 years like versus.

Favourite mode by far.

thank you again kind sir khel, you have resulted in a weekend of epic l4d2 lan uberness!

Yeah scavenge is awesome with a full server, when you got good equal teams it's very intense.

One game we were at 10/16, in overtime. Split up into 2 pairs, 1 pair went to get the a single can while the other pair stood at the generator holding the can but not pouring.

Ended up getting to 16/16 via that method, my heart was about to explode.

Be interesting to see how it goes when everyone clues on to it. Right now spitter is rolling because not everyone is aware that dropped cans set on fire when spitted on. Also spitting when they are filling up slows em down.

Whats the program to remove the censorship from the Au version?

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1030857&highlight=gore+patch

Using the adrenalin shot greatly speeds up the pouring of the cans too.