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Opec
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Since we've got a few TVs thread lately, and one of the point often raised about LCDs is a motion blur. I just found this article on Gizmondo:
Basically DisplayMate concludes that modern mid-high end LCDs don't suffer from motion blur, and people are mostly seeing optical illusions. Interesting. Now it just needs to improve the price, contrast ratio and viewing angle and it'll be as good as plasmas. |
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mission
Posts: 5934
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Now it just needs to improve the price, contrast ratio and viewing angle and it'll be as good as plasmas. Did he just go there? |
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Jim
Posts: 10677
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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paging guvna
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 16717
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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paging spook
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#3 02:11pm 05/11/09 |
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thermite
Posts: 3104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Motion blur makes video look smoother :/ Who would say it is a negative thing? People deliberately pour lashings of motion blur and Gaussian blur onto their animations so it doesn't look like a bloody video game or something.
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#4 02:12pm 05/11/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2087
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I agree with higher prices LCD improves.
Mid-priced ? no. Then again there are MASSIVE price drops in TVs at the moment. go buy one ! |
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imitation
Posts: 2864
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I just went from a circa 1993 68cm TV to 32" LCD I can't fault the screen at all, but maybe I don't know what I'm looking for?
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#6 02:19pm 05/11/09 |
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TicMan
Posts: 5315
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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LCD blur is when Plasma owners finally smack themselves in the face so hard for making a bad decision that their eyes go watery.
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#7 02:26pm 05/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3857
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Study Claims Motion Blur Is A Non-Issue In Mid-To-High-End LCDs translates to study proves nothing if they're saying its not an issue in mid-high end, that insinuates that its a problem in low end s*** these days you don't know what you're buying most of the time, the panels are mostly built in the same factories and then shipped off to various suppliers so they can put their own bevel around it you don't know until you've bought it or read reviews/seen it in action |
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#8 02:28pm 05/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26843
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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mongo thinks these guys are idiots and dont know televison;
fyi, ive never noticed motion blur on my sony or even my aldi lcd in the bedroom i watch a lot of afl |
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#9 02:29pm 05/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3858
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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should just have got a plasma davey, no motion blur ever
don't even have to deny it |
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#10 02:30pm 05/11/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5965
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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He most certainly did: http://www.displaymate.com/LCD_Plasma_ShootOut.htm In particular read the bit about the contrast ratio and viewing angle. For the most part these days all you hear about are mostly anecdotal evidence from the Interwebs but these guys actually did it scientifically to avoid subjectivity. Their whole shoot out series has some very interesting read actually. |
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#11 02:30pm 05/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26844
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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but i dont want plasma;
i like lcd; i like how my pc monitor looks, i want my tv to look jsut like that, especially considering i hook up pcs to all of my tvs |
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#12 02:33pm 05/11/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6798
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Way to dodge the proof in the post above yours davey :D
Have a read, try not to cry too much :D |
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#13 02:39pm 05/11/09 |
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Dan
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Motion blur makes video look smoother :/ Who would say it is a negative thing? People deliberately pour lashings of motion blur and Gaussian blur onto their animations so it doesn't look like a bloody video game or something.Who would say it is a negative thing? Anyone that plays videogames. For recorded film, motion blur is all well and good, you don't want it when you're gaming at 60FPS though. |
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#14 02:51pm 05/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26847
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i usually watch my tv straight on, im a genius when it comes to designing my living room, chairs vs television and all that
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#15 02:51pm 05/11/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6799
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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All of the LCD units have a noticeable color shift at less than ±15 degrees, while the Panasonic Plasma is visually indistinguishable from face on viewing well beyond ±45 degrees. This is true for both the measurements and the viewing tests. The significance of this is enormous, because it means that the “sweet spot” for seeing an accurate picture on an LCD HDTV is only one person wide, even for these top-of-the-line models, so essentially everyone looking at an LCD HDTV will see a picture with noticeably different coloration. Do you also watch your TV by yourself? Anyone else who wants to watch has to get their own LCD and sit STRAIGHT ON! |
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#16 02:55pm 05/11/09 |
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demon
Posts: 4855
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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that's how spook gets people to sit in his lap ;D
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#17 02:59pm 05/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3863
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Interesting. Now it just needs to improve the price, contrast ratio and viewing angle and it'll be as good as plasmas. I'm still lolling |
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#18 03:07pm 05/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26848
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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im sure lcd owners everywhere are preparing to smash their teles to bits after reading such a bad review on them
i know i am |
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#19 03:38pm 05/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3866
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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if you're one of the first you should just sell it, take the hit and buy a plasma
the plasma will be cheaper and better anyway |
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thermite
Posts: 3106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Who would say it is a negative thing? Anyone that plays videogames. lol fair enough. I forgot that there are still people who play the computer on their TV like it's 1987. |
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#21 03:48pm 05/11/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 2088
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Plasma sounds a lot cooler than LCD.
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Spook
Posts: 26850
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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no it doesnt
plasma sounds like old news |
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#23 04:06pm 05/11/09 |
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Python
Posts: 351
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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LED TVs own LCDs and Plasmas!
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FaceMan
Posts: 2089
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I heard LEDs are cheaper to manufacture but superior technology though they may have shorter lifespan.
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#25 04:16pm 05/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3872
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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oh hells yeah, I helped install one a few weeks ago now and the picture quality was off the charts, it felt like you could reach out and grab the objects on the screen
hard to describe the depth perception they create |
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Saint
Cainer
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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And they're so thin!
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I can't read
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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30 FPS is all you need
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mongie
Posts: 6800
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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fyi - the samsung he looked at was an LED TV
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whoop
Posts: 14816
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Now it just needs to improve the price, contrast ratio and viewing angle and it'll be as good as plasmas. I'm pretty sure this is a troll but if it's not, I can see my LCD tv right up to sitting at 90 degrees to the thing which obviously no TV would be viewable at because you're looking across the screen and not at it. |
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The GuVna
Posts: 1143
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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paging guvna I have a CRT TV, an LED TV, CRT monitors, & an LCD monitor. When these 4 things are in the same room at once, with me, I create a black hole. |
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tequila
Posts: 3888
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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the viewing angle can't be disputed, its s*** on LCD when you compare it to a plasmas viewing angle
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Spook
Posts: 26852
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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plasmas, no1 choice for people who want to sit at an angle to their tv's
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#33 12:34am 06/11/09 |
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Infidel
Posts: 3072
Location: Netherlands
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why would you buy a plasma tv anyway?
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#34 12:49am 06/11/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 3392
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i bet camry drivers are plasma watchers
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#35 12:59am 06/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3915
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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plasmas, no1 choice for people who want fixed I could have also done plasmas, no1 choice for people who don't want to sit |
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fpot
Posts: 16525
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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^ fail
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#37 01:32am 06/11/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6803
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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tequila... I dont think they'll ever understand what we're talking about.
They obviously didn't when they got ripped off buying an LCD. Maybe we should just bask in the perfection of our plasma's and be happy :D |
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#38 09:18am 06/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26853
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lols, i hardly think some s***ty small low res old heap of a tele that you can watch from side on is perfection
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#39 09:35am 06/11/09 |
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mission
Posts: 5938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Maybe we should just bask in the perfection of our plasma's and be happy :D As long as your happy that it doesn't look as good as LCD, go for it. |
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#40 10:23am 06/11/09 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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So how's that low res LCD from Aldi treating you Spook?
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#41 10:53am 06/11/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5970
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Wrong again Plasma technology is actually newer than LCD dude but hey whatever makes you happy Spook :) |
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#42 10:57am 06/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3917
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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low res?
my 60" plasma does full 1080p with really nice dark blacks and no blurring :D |
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#43 11:01am 06/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26854
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So how's that low res LCD from Aldi treating you Spook? gah low res? was talking about mongies my 60" plasma does full 1080p with really nice dark blacks and no blurring :D lucky gold last edited by Spook at 11:18:51 06/Nov/09 |
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#44 11:18am 06/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lifes good
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#45 11:47am 06/11/09 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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lucky goldstar, it was a brand from the 80's that no one bought if their had brains.
best rebranding ever :D edit: link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Group In 1995, so as to better compete in the Western market, the company was renamed "LG", the abbreviation of "Lucky GoldStar". More recently, the company associates its tagline "Life's Good", with the letters LG. last edited by HeardY at 12:31:13 06/Nov/09 |
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thermite
Posts: 3112
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Lucky Goldstar was founded in 1947 and got into electronics by 1959, rebranded as 'LG' in 1995.
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tequila
Posts: 3924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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you can't diss lucky goldstar if you drive a daewoo lol
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#48 12:37pm 06/11/09 |
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Some Fat Bastard
Posts: 661
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I have both 50" Plasma and 42" LCD. I prefer the colour on the Plasma. I see no difference in picture resolution quality between the two. If anything I do prefer the plasma when playing games, the colours appear more brilliant.
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#49 12:41pm 06/11/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6804
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Clearly there is nothing wrong with LG.
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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hahaha teq win, flawless victory!
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#51 01:06pm 06/11/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26856
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i do like the davwoo
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#52 03:16pm 06/11/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 3936
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I <3 my lucky goldstar
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#53 03:23pm 06/11/09 |
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MatchFixa
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Gaming looks better on LCD.
Home and away looks better on Plasma. I'm willing to compromise. last edited by MatchFixa at 15:34:53 06/Nov/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5975
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Lg come a long way, I wouldn't hesitate to buy their gear these days. In fact I bought my mum 50" Lg plasma and Blu ray HTB thingo and she loves it and has zero problems. They're pretty competitive when it comes to pricing too so I don't know what you're talking about Spooky. |
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tequila
Posts: 3938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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davey has beta-max rage (lcd)
he shoulda bought vhs (plasma) |
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typo
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im a genius when it comes to designing my living room, chairs vs television and all that If you had to be a genius at something, you might as well be a genius at something totally retarded ... oh, wait that makes a lot of sense in your case. |
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Spook
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davey has beta-max rage (lcd) rofls, betamax was the superior product!!!!! |
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