Just took a gander at the OFLC site.

A three-member panel of the Classification Review Board (the Review Board) has unanimously determined that the computer game Left 4 Dead 2 is classified RC (Refused Classification).

In the Review Board’s opinion, Left 4 Dead 2 could not be accommodated within the MA 15+ classification. The computer game contains a level of violence which is high in impact, prolonged, repeated frequently and realistic within the context of the game.

In addition, it was the Review Board’s opinion that there was insufficient delineation between the depiction of general zombie figures and the human figures, as opposed to the clearly fictional ‘infected’ characters. This was a major consideration of the Review Board in determining the impact of this game on minors.

Computer games classified RC cannot be sold, hired, advertised or demonstrated in Australia.

Seems Aussies will be stuck with the censored version on release.

Commence bitching.

Left 4 Dead 2 classified RC upon review

promoted forum item

So basically I'm no longer going to buy l4d2 or mw2... ffs, they were the two best looking titles in the coming months.

that s*** news :( stupid dam censorships

So do we have a final word on whether it can be gifted from USA or imported?

viva la revolution

So basically I'm no longer going to buy l4d2 or mw2... ffs

This is what most of you should be doing. That or import.

Actually by not buying it, you punish the developer for producing an Australian friendly version.

End result will be developers going well lets not bother producing an Australian friendly version. Which will then mean your parralel imports will be forced to play on US servers.

Or you just buy and play the censored version and stop being little cry baby bitches about it.

Actually by not buying it, you punish the developer for producing an Australian friendly version.

End result will be developers going well lets not bother producing an Australian friendly version

Or more like by not buying it, the developer complains and releases decreasing sales stats. Gets media attention (hopefully) and then public pressure mounts to change the stupid classification laws.

Even better if the developer decides not to bother with an Australian version. More attention.

If you buy the baby version now then baby versions will become the normal thing to do for an Australian market

And if you don't buy it, the normal thing to do will be not bother releasing the game in Australia at all.

Why punish the game developer for its, not like they made the rules or can change our classification system.

Original game was to much fun for me to not buy #2 over some small changes. It'll suck yeah but pretty sure we are getting a patch to update s*** if the gimped version was put through.

Why punish the game developer for its, not like they made the rules or can change our classification system.

It's not punishing the game developer... it's just choosing not to buy their game since parts of it are missing due to the regulations of our great country.

How to buy uncensored version? (I don't have any internet friends to gift me)

could we get stinky, or other qgler in america to buy a 4 pack, then gift 3 of them to us?

I may even pay for my share.

:(

would be awsome if stinky could do that. otherwise i will just get it from cdwow.

So that actually works? Buying it from the US and gifting it? Or is this just a rumour/assumption/guess?

i was assuming australian copy would be different version so couldnt play with ppl on uncensored version

the version you get depends on the location of the gifter. so if they are in the US then you get the US version. its in the steam FAQ.

http://www.cdwow.com.au/games/PC/LEFT-4-DEAD-2/dp/pc/10243227#bc=b577

UK 18+ version.

I could buy it in Europe but you would have to pay me in Euros, Tim Tams, Vegemite For'n'twenty meatpies, seafood baskets and steak

wow, this + cod:mw makes me a very unhappy gamer

Dammit :(

http://www.g2play.net/store/Left-4-Dead-2-UNCUT-VERSION-Steam-Key.html


There's another one for ya too.

this sux ass....I'm undecided whether I'll get it now.


What if we get it gifted from some peeps in NZ and play on their servers?

Thanks a lot OFLC, you ruined christmas.

Thanks a lot OFLC, you ruined christmas.

What if we get it gifted from some peeps in NZ and play on their servers?

doesnt matter what version you have, you will still be able to play on any server. i have the euro version of l4d and play on aussie servers fine.

A three-member panel of the Classification Review Board

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Hl5bQduRAMc/SdolDvW9xRI/AAAAAAAAEzk/GjUi1pIWtpw/s400/wildlife-monkeys-hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil.jpg

But yea not their fault, no 18+ rating & all.

they can be blamed for being so f***ing inconsistent.

If they gave RC for every game that actually should be 18+, there would have been a huge uproar years ago, and this probably would have been changed by now.

As it stands, the guys on the board are a group of f***tards.

Would be great to hear if the uncensored version will be compatible with the censored version... (I don't think comparing the UK and AU L4D1 is any real proof :(

If it is compatible, I am so importing my copy... November will so so many nerd riots. Thankfully the stereotypical nerd hasn't the motivation to do much... but they do have great strength in one of their arms... could be dangerous!

Inconsistent classification standards cheese everyone off. I'm not a fan of blood, guts, gore and full on violence, but I also hate the double standards of censorship in Australia. Why is X-rated porn illegal in every state except Canberra, where it is actually made? Why the fuss over this game and not others that are just as bad or worse? If they are so concerned about exposing kids to bad things, then why do my kids have soft/semi porn magazine content in their faces and at their eye level every time we walk past the magazine stand in any news agency? If the argument is that the govt will not create an R18 rating because they can't police it, then what about other media outlets, such as your local DVD library? Adult content is poorly policed, if at all with other forms of media, so why apply different standards to the gaming industry?

Lucky for me, I am in the UK when the game comes out, with the exchange rate as it is at the moment, will be cheap as...

That G2PLAY site seems like a good option, provided that I'll DEFINITELY be able to play the uncensored version. There's no real way to know before the game is out and others have tried it. I might just wait until release day and see.

HyperJ, would you be interested in buying the 4pack for some of us lowly locals?

Im lost for words :\:\:\:\:\

>quote>Why is X-rated porn illegal in every state except Canberra,
Because that's where the High level Politicians live. Can't have them or their children creating a scandal now can we....

Or it could be due to Territory laws are different to State Laws
I don't know, I'm just shooting my mouth off :)

I'm going to advertise it on every site I own just to spite the f***s.

I wonder if they will reply to a letter detailing other games that are just as bad, worse, or the same (L4D) and asked to explain why they are so inconsistent.

I too find the inconsistency stupid.

I bet the letter would receive a stock standard reply.

Cool, been waiting for this decision until pre-purchasing.

Will not be buying.
Will get Borderlands instead.

So what does this mean for someone who has yet to purchase the game?

Is there any point trying to get the US version gifted to me, or would I just get a censored version regardless?

Is there any point trying to get the US version gifted to me, or would I just get a censored version regardless?

you will get the uncensored version if its gifted to you from someone who lives in a country where its uncensored. its what the germans did with l4d.

Hot.

Anyone have any hookups?!

So if we order a box etc. from an online company from overseas they'll send an uncensored version and not a censored aussie version is this the norm?

What's peoples recommendations for such stores that they've dealt with before, never ordered online except through steam.
Will most likely still wait and see that its playable on AU servers though, but its worth having options open I guess.

So if we order a box etc. from an online company from overseas they'll send an uncensored version and not a censored aussie version is this the norm?

I seem to recall this coming up last time and there being some restrictions about doing this? Or is that just for RC games (like, it's actually illegal to import an RC game, or something)

I imagine it would be illegal but I don't particularly care about that =P
Unless they opened the games box and loaded it up I can't see them being able to really tell that easily.
And at worst I'd say they confiscate it and you'd simply lose it with perhaps a written letter in your mailbox as a slap on the wrist for importing it.

It sounds like its going to be a massive pain in the ass to acquire, but yeah, like others, I'm not paying for a reduced version because some psychotic christian zealots say otherwise :)

last edited by Mephz at 12:57:57 23/Oct/09

I'm really after someone to just gift me L4D 2 from overseas; apparently that should work as its based on where you purchase it from (not where you download it from).

Hmmmm, better yet/easier idea.

Will we be able to purchase over steam (censored or not)
Then just donwload the game, yes, blatantly pirate the thing (that you've already paid for)...
Over-write your existing files and go nuts?

This might be a bit of a problem with steam given it seems to be a bit different with its installation than from boxed versions?

Is this viable?

i guess that could work mephz.

If it works the same as L4D1, getting it gifted will work without any special downloading.

German players who got it gifted from outside got the uncensored version, and there were even reports of people in the USA getting it gifted from Germany and getting the gimped version. So it is based purely off place of purchase.

Got my gifted copy ready to go, fingers crossed.

Sorry Valve, but I will now be pirating the crap out of this. :(

how are you going to play online?

Yeah, its a pretty pointless game to pirate, since the vast majority of play time you'll spend with it is multiplayer.

why would you pirate l4d2?
If the loss of a bit of blood is that much of an issue, then well... you should try importing it from overseas (which supposedly works)

Also, should be supporting valve, i could understand if it were IW/Activision

but like what mephz said. would it be possible to buy a cdkey off one of those cdkey sites, then download the uncensored pirated copy then use the cdkey with it?

Nobody knows for sure. But probably, yes. They will give you a cd-key and you just click 'activate a product on steam', pop it in, and it downloads/installs.

how are you going to play online?

Could be talking about the xbox 360 version (yeah I forgot it was coming out on multiple platforms too, it's such a PC game).

Okay guys I have a theory here.

If you set ?cc=US in your browser at the Steam store in the URL; and proceed to the checkout, you *may* get the uncensored version.

After purchase, if you visit your account info (click Login / your email address at the top right of the screen) you will see:

Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)
instead of:
Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder AU)

Only worth giving it a shot as a last resort!

PS: Restart Steam if you pre-ordered, the demo is available for pre-loading.

Haha in the German version you get CS weapons to make up for the lack of gore. (not a worthy exchange)

I tried that ?cc=US

and I can actually select to purchase banned games such as risen. Also silent hill homecoming does not appear for purchase before I entered that line in the broswer.

I tried that ?cc=US

and I can actually select to purchase banned games such as risen. Also silent hill homecoming does not appear for purchase before I entered that line in the broswer.

haha sick. and it says COD6 is 60 dollars now. Now we just need someone from QGL to email valve about this exploit.

Thinking about it though it will probably reject you once you enter your CC details. Someone try it :P


last edited by ctd at 23:27:35 24/Oct/09

According to other forums - it won't accept your payment if you try that method (unless you use a US credit card or paypal account)

I gotta be honest I wasn't even going to buy this game until the possibility of cs weapons came up. Hopefully I can use CS tactics too and wait for the zombies to come round a corner and AWP them.

Well I got it gifted from someone from the US and it doesn't say AU Preorder on it.

apparently this works

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6213/steamproxy.th.jpg





edit: haha mw2 comes up as $60 now. just wondering if it would accept cc details though

last edited by ravn0s at 12:36:58 25/Oct/09

Wouldn't you still have trouble when it comes time to pay and you don't have a US billing address though?

Yeah that's what i'm thinking too

It will fail when it checks your credit card billing address.

What if you pay by bank account/direct debit using paypal?

No idea. Try it and report back.

Just tried it, using the VPN thing that rec posted in the Modern Warfare 2 thread, got to the US version of the Steam store, but when I tried to pay using Paypal it would get to the paypal site, start trying to process the payment, and then fail.

Boo I might give it a whirl tomorrow night.

Wow, ok, update, I used a credit card instead of paypal and changed the country to US, left all the other billing information the same, and it went through. Don't understand how or why that actually works, but oh well, it does!

Wow, ok, update, I used a credit card instead of paypal and changed the country to US, left all the other billing information the same, and it went through. Don't understand how or why that actually works, but oh well, it does!

If you visit your account info (click on 'Login' at the top right, or your account username, on steampowered.com), under the purchases list does it say 'Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)'? If so (as opposed to 'preorder AU') I think you have the uncut version.

Valve may also lock your account for account sharing if they see you login from australia one minute, and the USA the next.

$89.99 US for MW2? Serious? That's like AUD$97 for a PC game? Downloaded with no packaging?

Yeah, it said Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder), nothing about it being the AU one.

I did it through the website, not through the actual steam client, so hopefully it doesn't get too confused about me logging in from different places. I left the steam client closed the whole time, and only re-opened it once the purchase was all done and I was back on an australian IP.

Oh well, if nothing else, it'll be an interesting experiment :P

im gonna give it a shot

khel what did you do for state or province and zipcode?

last edited by ravn0s at 17:05:28 25/Oct/09

Here's an interesting trick...

Remove funds from your card and attempt a purchase, you can see under your account info on the steam site that a 'charge failed' trying to purchase 'Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder AU)' when you use Australia as the country and cc=AU. Yet if you try CC=US and billing country as USA, it says it failed for 'Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)' :)

khel what did you do for state or province and zipcode?

I just picked a random state (california) then googled for a valid postcode there. It must not do a lot of checking because I still left all the other billing details the same, just changed country/state/post code.

lol just googled and theres a brisbane city in california so i just took its zip code.


edit:

$44.99
Charge
Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)
Purchased for this account
25 Oct 2009

last edited by ravn0s at 17:46:39 25/Oct/09

edit2: also for some reason i can download killing floor for free :/

last edited by ravn0s at 17:53:35 25/Oct/09

edit2: also for some reason i can download killing floor for free :/

Its a free weekend

so it is

So what's to stop someone creating a new, secondary Steam account and setting it up as being from the US and then simply gifting games to your primary steam account?

yer i read about people doing that hermi. was too much of a hassle for me to try.

Have someone who can gift it from overseas but the exchange rate is different.

If it's $50 AUD to preorder and $60 in NZ.
Do I send $50 AUD to them and it converts when sent to a NZ account?

(I've never sent money to anyone electronically before)

Do I send $50 AUD to them and it converts when sent to a NZ account?

Yes

Thanks heaps r_mazing, appreciate that

cant u use paypal and let that figure it all out?

Yay got my gifted copy :D

Yeah, apparently my accoutns aren't setup to allow international transfer direct debit anyway, so paypal it must be

So what's to stop someone creating a new, secondary Steam account and setting it up as being from the US and then simply gifting games to your primary steam account?

That's what I just did. I didn't want to have anything suss happening on my Steam account, buying anything through there, so I created a new one, and just gifted it. It all worked fine, just hope Valve don't get the s***s at me.

I'm so in two minds about it...

Tempted to wait an see how it all works out for everyone on one hand and then get it after launch in case it gets borked somehow however I'm also worried that boba might let the penny drop about the workaround and I'll miss out alltogether as the method is closed...

I don't see any reason valve would try to stop this, I don't think they are legally obligated to, and are probably allowing this to go on. According to the oflc statement RC games cannot be sold, hired, advertised, or demo'd in australia, but it doesn't mention buying, playing, owning, distributing, etc..

I've just done something similar with cod:mw2, purchased from the US shop via proxy, only changed state, city and postcode for 59usd.

Tempted to try for l4d2, but the price is exactly the same so it's not really worth it for a bit more gore imo.

I feel kinda pissed about me already pre-ordering when now you can get the normal version this way

Cancel your pre-order maybe?

How the crap do you do that?

You can't over steam. Gabe Newell said something about a gore patch on release day a while ago but I am not 100%

Yeah but some people are saying that is only if the uncut version got through. Which doesnt make much sense to me

before i go ahead and gift it to myself like you guys have, are there going to be any issues with playing the un-cut version in Australia? Will it be compatible with the un-cut?

support contacted and with a bit of luck i'll get this canceled then use these methods to get myself the good version!

ctd,
Didn't know if he (DM) had used Steam to preorder.
Yes, Gabe mentioned a patch during his recent Aussie visit if I remember correctly and it again, I'm unsure wether it was provisional on the game as a whole not being refused classification.

before i go ahead and gift it to myself like you guys have, are there going to be any issues with playing the un-cut version in Australia? Will it be compatible with the un-cut?

No can say that with 100% certainty until the game is actually released.

Yeah I had. Actual Steam program not the online browser store. Should be ok since their FAQ says they can if the game hasn't come out yet.

Also something I found on the forums...

Q - Will Valve ban my account for importing/owning an uncut version in my country?
A - *Rewritten 23/10/09 (dd/mm/yy)* Valve can ban any users account at any time. Because owning an imported version of the game is legal in both Australia and Germany, no action will specifically be taken on Valves part.

So looks like valve will take no action for people doing this. Just means they can't sell the game here uncut is all really. If they really didn't want people playing different versions of the game, you wouldn't be able to gift games internationaly.

Germans have been putting up with this crap forever. It is all one version online it is just that AUS and GER versions wont see blood or whatever.

I like how they take the opportunity to flex their e-penis and let you know they can ban you at any time, then go on to say, oh but we wont ban you for this.

anyone know if the demo is on the ga content servers? nothing downloads with steamwatch turned on, but i get like 2MB/s with it turned off.

Using this for iinet filtering. Not downloading :(

Have to stay up and do it in offpeak.

edit: left it open and it is downloading now. So iinet users are sweet.

last edited by ctd at 21:57:01 25/Oct/09

That's what I just did. I didn't want to have anything suss happening on my Steam account, buying anything through there, so I created a new one, and just gifted it. It all worked fine, just hope Valve don't get the s***s at me.

hey midda how exactly did u do this? because I just made another steam account, and it doesnt ask what country you are from yet. however, when im gifting and try to pay with Credit Card it says my billing address is incorrect (as my billing address is from Aus and not the USA which I have in there) and if I try pay pal then that's an Australian Account too.

flex their e-penis

I lol'd.

hey midda how exactly did u do this? because I just made another steam account, and it doesnt ask what country you are from yet. however, when im gifting and try to pay with Credit Card it says my billing address is incorrect (as my billing address is from Aus and not the USA which I have in there) and if I try pay pal then that's an Australian Account too.

I went through the same method as Khel did. I got a trial VPN account that was linked in this thread or the MW2 one, used it to set up a UK account, and added the new account to my friends list. Then, I bought the game on the UK account through the VPN, and gifted it to my actual account. I didn't bother changing any of the billing information other than the country.

mine pre-loaded... i hope the gore patch comes out but i doubt it... i hope its just a simple commandline fix :)

Germans have been putting up with this crap forever. It is all one version online it is just that AUS and GER versions wont see blood or whatever.

Well they started WW1 and 2 so ...

My flatmate brought up an interesting point, do you reckon theres multiple versions of the demo? Do demos have to be classified by the classification board? Like will Australia get a censored demo, or the full gore demo?

dont know will just have wait a few days and ill tell ya

ITS ALL PART OF THE MYSTERY OF THE ISLAND

Anyone here think valve tried to pull the wool over the classification boards eyes by showing them the german version of the game in the resubmitted version, but will actually release the proper version in AU? Are they really gonna go back and check whats been released here? lol I am making up conspiracies here... but you never know.

it only takes one f***ing old woman/boba to complain though.

Far easier to play by the rules and look for loopholes than to break the rules. Although what Monoxide is saying would be basically true anyway if they patched the gore in, but it's perfectly legal.

In the latest Steam update there was a patch to gifting that 'fixed bugs'.

Anyone know if this might affect the method?

The only gift bugfix I can see was from 3 days ago, and it seemed like it was specifically for the L4D2 four-pack.

Fixed a crash on activation of a Left 4 Dead 2 4-pack gift

I just gifted myself the games from the UK store yesterday, and it worked fine. :)

In the latest Steam update there was a patch to gifting that 'fixed bugs'.

Anyone know if this might affect the method?

That was an actual bug, it happened to me. Just had to restart steam and it was fine.

OK so just a question about this proxy buisness...

When I go to the steam store with my normal connection and search for rockstar games, it only comes up with 1, GTA4. However when I add the proxy details in and refresh it suddenly brings up like 20 of them. If I buy L4D2 with the proxy on, and pay with paypal (I have a paypal account) should it work or would it spaz out since it says I live in australia in the Paypal account.

Guess I have to wait though since still waiting for a reply on my pre-order refund.

Let us know how the refund goes, I am also waiting for a refund for my AU pre order of left 4 dead 2. I don't want to end up with two copies of left 4 dead 2!

Paypal didn't work for me, even with the proxy on, it spazzed out. Credit card did work though.

So... adding your credit card in like a normal purchase, but changing the country to US, state to cali and finding a post code for the brisbane area there works? really? I would of thought that never would of worked.

Yeah I did UK, London and my state was "Jolly Old". Rest was my details.

Yeah, it really works, suprised me too but it does.

well got the demo. hopefully not all of the download went to my cap. took only a couple of mins to download at 2.3MB/s :)

can someone plz tell me what proxy to use? I spent like an hour trying to do it through these random proxys i found and nearly every time i got to the steam site, it wouldnt let me login/purchase because the proxy had restrictions.

http://anonymitynetwork.com/price.html

get the trial VPN from here

i must be an idiot but i cant get that to work ravn0s. after signing up, getting my username/pw and setting up the vpn it keeps saying cant connect, username/pw wrong or some other s***

you using the password they sent in the email? are you putting your email in correctly for the username?

nevermind mate, fixed it and pre-ordered! i had to download that little vpn thingo

lol

I didn't even have to change the state or postcode. All I did was change the country and it worked.

All this info is confusing me. Do I need this VPN thing or can I just use a proxy in my browser and buy it through the website store instead of the actual steam program?

All this info is confusing me. Do I need this VPN thing or can I just use a proxy in my browser and buy it through the website store instead of the actual steam program?

probably u can do it that way, but to make things easy just go to the link ravnos posted and get the free 3hr trial and then u download a tiny vpn file and set it up.

I didn't even have to change the state or postcode. All I did was change the country and it worked.

must be diff for UK store. did you have to input state and zipcode yourself? with US as country you have to choose the state from a drop down box before it would let you continue.

heh sorry to whoever I said you cant get a refund on steam. You can get a refund on a preorder if the game isn't out yet.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4938-WTDF-9465

So if you wanna change from the aussie version gogogo :)


^ Moderately funny.

Oh, yeah, well when you select UK, it's like it is when selecting Australia. It lets you actually type in a state, rather than selecting from a list. I also found that the conversion from pounds to AUD was a few dollars better than going from USD to AUD.

I've done it successfully vis the VPN. Bought it from US store. Pre-loading demo now :)

I bought mine from here http://www.haloboosting.com/l4d2.aspx. No way they can check my CC details and this is way cheaper than buying it single and its the US version. Demo preloaded and ready to rock!

Interesting thing with the accidental *.ncf included Borderlands for the .AU version that wasn't present in the .US version which has since been pulled an cited as an accident....

how do I get l4d2 refunded? I wanna try this vpn shizzle.

So I just read this on the SA forum (where people with skills post apparently)

Here's a fix for the censored versions of the demo.
Just requires editing of two text files.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/adzicents/l4d2demofix.jpg

and

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/adzicents/l4d2demofix2.jpg

Then apparently you have to run left4dead2.exe in the game folder, not through Steam and to connect to a server it must be running with app id 510 as well.

last edited by qmass at 03:25:31 30/Oct/09

Hey Ravnos, can you do a basic step by step tutorial on this VPN stuff? I played L4D2 last night for 5min and quit, I need gore man!!!

Not sure why the appid doesn't work with 590. Mine is uncensored, and my appid is 590.

LOTUK posted this in the other L4D2 thread (the demo one)

FYI for those who haven't bought the game yet, the following painless method worked for me (presuming they don't crack down on it):

1) browse to http://store.steampowered.com/?cc=uk
2) log in using your normal steam account
3) Buy the game for yourself
4) Change your country when paying at the checkout to United Kingdom (you can leave all the other Aussie details as is)
5) An open as window should appear where you can click OK to add it to steam (I don't think this part is necessary, but just saying what I did)
6) You now have the uncut version (at least I'm playing the uncut demo, so presumably this means the full version will be uncut)

I did it this morning, worked perfectly. Limbs flying, exposed spinal columns with a sniper rifle etc

is there any difference between uk and us versions?

no

TROG.... Check your PM for the solution.

YES I DID WHAT BEANITH DID... i got my money back from steam this morning for AU version then did what Beanith did!

I did what Beanith did and this is what it says and this is what it says in my account info thing

Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)
Left 4 Dead 2 Demo (AU)

does that mean i have the Aussie demo and the UK preorder or what. i thought people were playing the UK demo version...

It means you have the complimentary aussie demo. You also still have the uk/us demo.
Everyone gets the AU demo if you login from AU. It is the public demo. Not the pre-order demo.

For example over the weekend my mate bought the game using a VPN. it now says in his account because he logged in from the UK vpn and from normal AU address.
Left 4 Dead 2 (preorder)
Left 4 Dead 2 Demo (AU)
Left 4 Dead 2 Demo

sooo how do i play the US/UK demo? im downloading "Left 4 Dead 2 Demo" in steam which i have logged on in Ausstralia i presume. Which demo am i downloading?

It means you'll get the AUS one if you didn't use any trickery.

Have fun with your low violence.

EB is selling l4d2 for $110 on PC and xbox.

They're also selling mw2 for $120 on PC and xbox.

They're selling second hand copies fo cod4 for $80


I f***ing lol'd.

It means you'll get the AUS one if you didn't use any trickery.

Have fun with your low violence.

He said that he did use trickery.

Everyone in AUS gets that complimentary demo in their account. Regardless of how or where you got L4D2 from. Soon as you login to steam it will detect that you are from AUS so it will auto add that to your account. It is for the public demo which isn't out for a few days.

I'd say you are downloading the gore version. Assuming you were successful in buying the UK l4d2.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcadigan/l4d2order.JPG

No he didn't. He asked how to play the US/UK one. He never said he leeched the US/UK version.

So I'm assuming he wants to know how to make it full gore, unless I'm assuming something different.

I appologize ctd.

I missed the bit further up.

Sorry mate!

8-)

My new steam account with L4D2 on it says "Left 4 Dead 2 Demo (AU)" in the account section but I still have full violence and all. IDK what that means.

AWESOME! thanks for the help guys. much apreciated. when it finaly finishes downloading i'll tell you how it goes. but im feeling much happier about it now :D

It works!!! im very happy. everyone should do this! everyone from Aus anyway. i hate that everyone hates australia :(

So far the most annoying thing about the us copy is you tend to get us servers, but since I don't have the AU one not entirely sure if it's a US specific problem. Setting 'sv_search_key internode' or 3fl or something from a google works well.

So far the most annoying thing about the us copy is you tend to get us servers, but since I don't have the AU one not entirely sure if it's a US specific problem. Setting 'sv_search_key internode' or 3fl or something from a google works well.

Are you sure you don't have your Steam region set to USA. I set mine to Los Angeles to test if the demo would update to the censored intro version, and I suddenly get american servers in L4D1, which was bought in Australia. The US version shouldn't be going to US servers.

It works!!! im very happy

Gratz!

Now we've just gotta hope it stays that way for the full version.

8-)

I've got the US version and I regularly end up on Gamearena or Internode servers.

just join the ga and 3fl steam groups if youre having trouble connecting to those servers.

I got the uncensored international version of the game for sale , if anyone is interested just drop me a mail at shalomsalmon@gmail.com

got a few copies for sale...
cheers

Oh hi new poster with 1 post offering to sell stuff with a Gmail address.

Left 4 Dead 2 RC classification and R18+ category for games in general was raised in The Age Greenguide today with this article by Matt de Neef