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Topic: Teaching English in Japan
Raider
Posts: 2560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So who's done it? My cousin has and one of my mates is over there at the moment. Thinking of trying it out, he recommended ECC.. Anyone got experience with other companies that can hook you up etc?

Looking at 12months +
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infi
Posts: 12853
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My gf did it for a year before I met her. She loved every minute of it. If you PM me your email I can get her to get in touch with you. she's got a few stories about traps to watch out for.
blahnana
Posts: 591
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Paging b2
The Match Fixer
Posts: 1152
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
paging persay about the s***ty paying job that is teaching.
FraktuRe
Posts: 1065
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
paging minxy about getting into the s***ty paying job that is teaching.
infi
Posts: 12854
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no doubt the pay is s*** but getting paid to live in another culture for around a year is sometimes the ideal life experience adventure kind of thing for some people.

f*** knows why, i would never do it, but gl hf etc. plus you get to learn another language and review all the panty vending machines.
scuzzy
Posts: 13499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Don't go to Japan if you're trying to quit smoking.
mooby
Posts: 4939
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mate did it. he loved it.
Syco
Posts: 454
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
A mate is in Korea. He gets paid about $500 Australian a week being a tutor for some rich family. He pays for nothing at all, lives in Trump Tower etc etc. So the $500 is basically going out or saving money. He also picks up a few korean chicks during the week to "teach english" to privately and makes extra cash out of that.

$500 free each week after living expenses is pretty damn decent for a holiday.
Raider
Posts: 2562
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
apparently the pay my mate is getting aint nothing to whinge about .. + experience another culture... sounds like a good use of 12 or more months to me, providing the culture agrees wtih you.
Zak
Posts: 2014
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have a friend who loved it and killed it cash wise. She still talks about it, a few years on.
Raider
Posts: 2563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
paging minxy about getting into the s***ty paying job that is teaching.


Yer... 75k a year for 6-7 hr days with a f***ton of paid holidays is terrible man, not to mention if you're smart enough do like 5-6 tutes a week @ $50 a pop or more...

If you set it up right.. you get good cash.
épic™
Posts: 2234
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol what kind of teacher is getting 75k? maybe after 15yrs in the job
Alize`
Posts: 1232
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Work in Japan is known to be good as you pay less tax there. I read this somewhere. I stayed there for a year. I really want to do this as well but I'm scared my IT degree is going to be totally useless once I get back.
Obes
Posts: 7747
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol what kind of teacher is getting 75k? maybe after 15yrs in the job

A good one that takes on extra unpaid responsibilities early so they can put it in a resume and be getting paid positions of responsibilty sooner rather then latter ?

6-7 hr days with a f***ton of paid holidays is terrible man

They work 40-42 weeks a year, get 4 weeks of "leave" ie. leave loading,
and 6 to 8 weeks of getting pid but not getting a bonus for doing nothing.
They typically have 5 hours contact time a day.

The hard bit of the job is having to deal with modern kids and useless parents, a lot of whom need a wooden spoon and not ADD meds and excuses.

But compared to a nurse or copper, teachers have it easy.
JakeG
Posts: 663
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Mmmm teaching in QLD is a bit :< atm.

You only get paid holidays if you land permanency with education queensland, that also means they can ship you off to the country whenever they feel like it.

If you dont like that, your working contracts and not getting paid for holidays. I've known teachers who are on 1 year recurring contracts for 3 years.

Teaching is 8hrs a day. I get there at 7:30 and leave at 3:30 if im lucky. Usually find i'm working when i get home too.. my quake live hrs have taken a hit :\

ps. Getting permanency is a mission in itself.
CHUB
Posts: 5364
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You need a university degree to teach in Japan also.

Non-degree holders get crappy China and the Middle East.
Minxy
Posts: 1165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Teachers start on about $46-48k but that really depends on whether you get work in a public or private school because the pay rates vary a bit there. Teaching is not in any way a 5 or 6 hour job and if you think that we really get all those holidays you're clearly mistaken.
Raider
Posts: 2564
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Teachers start on about $46-48k but that really depends on whether you get work in a public or private school because the pay rates vary a bit there. Teaching is not in any way a 5 or 6 hour job and if you think that we really get all those holidays you're clearly mistaken.


Ok so basically the SAME as every other grad job, sounds like a raw deal.

Actually I lie, go look up the pay-grade for a junior as a 3d artist, 48k looks like heaven.

So the fact that i live in the same house as a teacher, he's home by 3:30 and he works @ West End. So yer mabye 7hrs if u want to include travel time.

Does some tutoring for some easy cash and easy work. When it comes to the whole man we mark a bunch of s***, he takes a sick day.. so he marks the work and is pretty much free on holidays. Actually i think the most I've seen him work on a hol is mabye 1.5 days.. with a beer in hand going back and foward between TV and marking off some exams.

Also the whole "working with students" doesn't really apply since lets face it, if u didn't want to work with them you wouldn't have been a teacher. Not to mention most people deal with retards on a fairly common basis :) I think i've covered most of the points i wanted to touch.

Sounds to me like you haven't really got a good game plan in place.
Triamks
Posts: 2242
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I normally like reading what Obes has to say but this time he's mistaken. He clearly thinks it's greener outside where he works, without understanding everything. JakeG and Minxy have a clearer idea of how things are. Good teachers work way more than just the 9-3pm. They are often working long after school, on weekends, and during their "holidays".
Minxy
Posts: 1166
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yea, spot on Triamks. There are plenty of teachers who are home by 3.30 and don't bring work home with them, but in my opinion that's not doing the job properly.
Triamks
Posts: 2245
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
When it comes to the whole man we mark a bunch of s***, he takes a sick day...Sounds to me like you haven't really got a good game plan in place.


So you agree with what I said about good teachers working longer than 9-3pm then? kthxbi.

last edited by Triamks at 22:10:21 21/Jul/09
Raider
Posts: 2565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yea, spot on Triamks. There are plenty of teachers who are home by 3.30 and don't bring work home with them, but in my opinion that's not doing the job properly.


Never said teachers work 6 hours a day, but if he didn't tutor... guess what he'd be home @ 3:30pm every single day after work. Also some may say keep your work at work and would completely disagree with you.

It also depends on what grade they teach, as 11 / 12 have way less homework then undergrades because teachers aren't retarded and know they if they want to do well they'll probably study which = homework in it's own way.

But guess what, people do jobs different.. he's sitting on 75k or w/e it is, does the hours he needs to.. kids learn what they're supposed to and have fun in the process and he manages to keep all his holidays as holidays.. bloody shocking isn't it?
Strange Rash
Posts: 1059
Location:
i hear there are asian chicks in japan...
scuzzy
Posts: 13500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i hear there are asian chicks in japan...
one plane ticket please
Persay
Posts: 5599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i'm on my way to school now on 7am train usually get home around 5pm. Only 1st year teachers or retards need to spend whole nights planning s***. First time you teach something it needs prep+thought but 2nd year should be getting closer to routine.

As for holidays, in the last two i've booked flights that leave on the first day and get back the day before, didnt do a blink of work.

Oh yeah permanency in 1st yr ftw city school sux2b enflish teacher teaching noobs in the middle of the bush lol

Brb going to hk/dubai/uk/singapore to earn a packet
cainer
Posts: 1487
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you are going to be an english teacher in japan you need to get your look sorted out first

neck beards are a must
scungy backpack that stinks of sweat, is 5 years past its use by date and never leaves your back
shorts, pasty white legs and shoes and socks
a hair cut that screams 'i dont need to conform'



and a severe fetish for asian women, get your stare on, japanese girls f***ing love it when guys with neckbeards wearing backpacks stare at them. how could they possibly resist your western charm
Spook
Posts: 25673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
<3 neckbeards
infi
Posts: 12862
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
neckbeards: so rough, so manly.
greazy
Posts: 1329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is it true they are going to reduce teachers holidays alot in the coming years? I know someone said that teachers get something like 3 months holidays all up.
CHUB
Posts: 5365
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
11 weeks I believe greazy.

Education needs the large holidays, nobody would do that job for the money with 4 weeks annual leave.
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