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Topic: World of Warcraft Patch v3.1.0 Released
Dan
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Posts: 9209
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The latest massive content update for World of Warcraft is now live. As always for those who prefer the manual patch install, you can download the latest incremental patch right here from AusGamers.

The exhausting list of changes and additions can be found on the download page.
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Raven
Posts: 3549
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Argh. Blizz, are you serious?

* Ammunition: All types of gun and bow ammunition now stack to 1000. All quivers and ammo pouches no longer provide haste. 15% ranged haste is now built into the hunter's Auto Shot.
Obes
Posts: 7466
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Servers won't be up for hours, so don't rush.

also The undocumented 3.1 changes (atleast undocumented on the PTR)
darkjedi
Posts: 1660
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Argh. Blizz, are you serious?

* Ammunition: All types of gun and bow ammunition now stack to 1000. All quivers and ammo pouches no longer provide haste. 15% ranged haste is now built into the hunter's Auto Shot.


Single best change they've ever made for Hunters. Means I no longer have to suffer one less bag slot!
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16379
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
The hunter change is good although after playing a hunter for years you get used to having one less bag. They should make shards stackable for Warlocks if they're doing this for hunters.

One of the more annoying changes is Blizz resetting all talent points.

Beneath ancient Ulduar, the Old God of death lies, whispering.... Tread carefully, or its prison will become your tomb.



last edited by Reverend Evil™ at 11:07:21 15/Apr/09
TiT
Posts: 2139
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i have never played it but if you want to try out the trail version where can u go to download the full patch?
Syco
Posts: 35
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Single best change they've ever made for Hunters. Means I no longer have to suffer one less bag slot!


Now they just need to do something about Druids carrying 4 entire sets of gear and losing almost all their bags and warlocks not having souls stacking at all (and still needing a bag for them).
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16380
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
i have never played it but if you want to try out the trail version where can u go to download the full patch?

You can download it from the main WoW site but that would take ages. You're looking at maybe 6gig or more I guess. I would leech someones whole WoW folder and then use a 10 trial pass when setting up your account. Will save an assload of time or maybe places like EB sell the trial discs.
Raven
Posts: 3550
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Single best change they've ever made for Hunters. Means I no longer have to suffer one less bag slot!

Yeah. If they were going to make this change, they should have done something to at least make Quivers useful. With 1k stacks, they're pretty pointless now, even if I did have a level 70 20 slot quiver. Where that previously held 5k ammo, it now holds 20k ammo - I might as well just get a regular 20 slot bag and just hold 5 stacks of ammo and now I have an extra 15 slots for random other stuff, since there's no speed buff.
And multiple leatherworking skills just became completely pointless, since quivers are now pointless.

Gay :(
TiT
Posts: 2141
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
can you give me the link? i cant find it on the main wow site... because if there is one i will get internode to host it... i need the mac version
darkjedi
Posts: 1661
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
since there's no speed buff.


Apart from the 15% haste now built into every Hunter's autoshot you mean?

I can't see why you're having a whinge personally, it's not like you got slapped with a 10% dmg nerf (Titan's Grip for Fury warrior) or had your ability to tank whilst dual-wielding impacted (Death Knights... but then again, that's probably not such a good example). Who takes Leatherworking on a hunter anyway? I would've thought most wanting to play the min-max game would have JC as their main profession (with mining or something else to back it up). HTFU imo :)

syco - Aren't they doing stuff with soul shards 'soon' ? I vaguely recall interviews where Ghostcrawler & friends mentioned that making ammo stack to 1k was a temporary measure whilst they look into better alternatives for ammo/shards etc?
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26555
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

can you give me the link? i cant find it on the main wow site... because if there is one i will get internode to host it... i need the mac version
internode/GA mirrors added to our download page.
ViscoS
Posts: 110
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I just downloaded about 550mb of the patch from here and my internet died with 10 minutes left and killed the file...

:(
Hogfather
Posts: 2571
Location: Cairns, Queensland
God is telling you something rofl swoi swoi

Yes, I'm off the juice again! Account subscription expired a month ago ...
Obes
Posts: 7468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I just downloaded about 550mb of the patch from here and my internet died with 10 minutes left and killed the file...

send an email to qgl@qgl.org
ViscoS
Posts: 111
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

...why, Obes?
Obes
Posts: 7469
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's where you report internet problems, msn not working or bad storms.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26557
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I just downloaded about 550mb of the patch from here and my internet died with 10 minutes left and killed the file...:(
what the hell crappy download software are you using that it killed the file when your Internet died?!?!?!
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16381
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
LOL

It was most prolly the Blizzard downloader. Although I can't complain because it's always worked fine for me.
TiT
Posts: 2143
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yes trog but i want the full 7gb update :)
reso
I can't read
Posts: 4664
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Internode probably have all the files you need Tit. Take a look. Last time I checked they had the full trial clients and the expansions, and almost all of the patches (I think they were missing one 2mb patch).
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16382
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
http://macgamefiles.com/index.php

Check there TiT, there's a 7gig file but it's still missing a heap of patches after.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26558
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

yes trog but i want the full 7gb update :)
afaik you won't find a full version of the game client patched to 3.1.0. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
TiT
Posts: 2144
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeh that what i was asking for if there is one...
Syco
Posts: 36
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No hurry getting the patch. Took em hours longer to bring the servers back up and now it's the usual "world server down" after patch :)
ViscoS
Posts: 112
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

In response to your question way back there Trog, Firefox. The issue seems to be your download blocker not allowing outside sources to initiate the download, but I could be wrong.
Khel
Posts: 13268
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
or had your ability to tank whilst dual-wielding impacted


If you tank dual wielding you're a fail death knight anyway.
Creepy
Posts: 1365
Location: USA
Now they just need to do something about Druids carrying 4 entire sets of gear and losing almost all their bags and warlocks not having souls stacking at all (and still needing a bag for them).


re: Warlocks - dream on. Some 4.5 years on and still no change to this retarded mechanic.

Apparently it's to limit use of Shadowburn/Soulfire. Right..

And look! Now it's limited to carrying a maximum of 32! Drain Soul now pulls shards during the channelling. Joy.

Seriously, Blizzard, f***ing fix this.
ViscoS
Posts: 113
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It just did it again at 50 seconds left... :|

f***!
Syco
Posts: 50
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
And look! Now it's limited to carrying a maximum of 32! Drain Soul now pulls shards during the channelling. Joy.


I haven't played my lock yet but from the forum reports it's only giving shards as something dies still instead of possibility every tick like they said :/
DM
Posts: 928
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I can't see why you're having a whinge personally, it's not like you got slapped with a 10% dmg nerf

While I don't play wow anymore I still follow the changes a bit and it seems that survival hunters (which is most) got hit pretty decently with the nerf stick. Explosive Shot was perhaps the single biggest OP attack skill in the game so it was kinda required though
ViscoS
Posts: 114
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Is it just me or have DKs still hardly been nerfed at all?
Syco
Posts: 51
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
While I don't play wow anymore I still follow the changes a bit and it seems that survival hunters (which is most) got hit pretty decently with the nerf stick. Explosive Shot was perhaps the single biggest OP attack skill in the game so it was kinda required though


Even if they got 50% of damage from explosive shot it was only nerfed 10% so it's only a 5% overall nerf. Hunters have always been pretty damn high on damage meters so I don't think they're doing it that rough. I don't play one though so I'm just guessing here.

I think Survival will still be the cookie cutter spec. Just as Fury will be for warriors even though they got a 10% damage from 2handers nerf.
DM
Posts: 929
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Even if they got 50% of damage from explosive shot it was only nerfed 10% so it's only a 5% overall nerf

Flat out damage wise, yes explosive shot didn't get that much of a nerf. What i'm talking about is the tallent T.n.T which used to give a 15% chance to stun for 3 seconds and increased crit chance on ES by 9%. That's a pretty big nerf to overall damage when explosive shot can crit for 3.5 - 5k a tick, 3 times. Still though, I can see why they did it. Back when I used to do SSC and TK we had like 2 - 3 hunters always in the top spots so even back before survival became awesome they still did great damage.
Obes
Posts: 7473
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
DKs seem mostly unchanged.

My bear tank got raped, over 20% drop in armour which I really can't explain.
Saint
Cainer
Posts: 2338
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hunter nerfs were needed, the slight reduction in damage is good but another big change was wyvern sting in PVP. Changed from 10 or 12 seconds or something crazy like that to 6 seconds. About time.

Warlock conflag was a bit OP but they've hotfixed it to do 70% of Immolate's total periodic damage instantly (down from 100%). So many Warlocks came out of the woodwork last night and were raping everything in bg's.

Also dual specs = win
Thundercracker
Posts: 1960
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also dual specs = win

qft

Man I'm a rusty healer :/ Slowly getting back in the groove again.
Raven
Posts: 3554
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Too bad dual specs requires 1k gold. I've had an account since it was released (though not always active), and have only just got my first epic mount :P
kappa
Posts: 1081
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I miss wow :( Didn't have a care in the (rl) world back then.
TicMan
Posts: 4479
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I dual spec'd my pally prot/holy to take use of the holy gear I've been collecting so looking forward to busting out some heroics tonight to warm myself up.

Never done healing before so looking forward to it.. seems it's easier (less stressful?) to raid as a DPS or heals then it is a tank when you're expected to know every detail of fights, positioning, phases, etc.
darkjedi
Posts: 1662
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Has pally healing gotten more complicated beyond "spam 2 buttons, buff when people die"?
Thundercracker
Posts: 1961
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^ I think they might have got a third button i dunno

DPS is ez mode. I can 5 man/raid drunk as a skunk and still output decent DPS.

Healing requires you to be paying attention at all times and to know damage patterns for various bosses and how to mitigate risk.

But tanking also often involves leading the group and having the best grasp of boss mechanics. Definitely the most responsibility out of the 3 roles.
Syco
Posts: 52
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My bear tank got raped, over 20% drop in armour which I really can't explain.


Yeah, sucks eh? I didn't lose 20%, I went from 33k to 27k. I also lost around 2k health. Some bears on the forums are reporting they GAINED 10k armour. Must be some bug with whatever spec they're using. I'd love me some 43k armour, might look into it :D



Never done healing before so looking forward to it.. seems it's easier (less stressful?) to raid as a DPS or heals then it is a tank when you're expected to know every detail of fights, positioning, phases, etc.


Healing is the most noticeable thing in a raid IMO. If the heals are lax everyone feels it. I don't overly like healing but when I'm not I feel like "if I was there the tank'd still be alive and I would've kept those 3 DPS who don't know how to move out of xxx up" heh.

It's kind of fun healing just gets a bit boring after a while, that said so does trying to race the DPS charts and so does having something beat on you haha.

pARODY
Posts: 300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Had my first crack at ulduar last night. Looks pretty cool. Wipe fest on razorscale tho. Group I was with already did flame leviathan before I got home from work. I'm a 2067sp 36.9% crit unbuffed holy paladin :]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Saronasta

Should hopefully clear more of ulduar tonight.
Raven
Posts: 3555
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Installed the patch last night and logged in, and realized all my bloody plugins need to be updated. So didn't bother playing. Will have another look to see if they've been updated on Friday night.
TicMan
Posts: 4482
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
parody - got any links to holy paladin sites?
raven - grab the curse download manager, will (with magic) automatically grab your list of mods and update them if a new version is out
Syco
Posts: 55
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pARODY! LTNS. What server do you play on?
Obes
Posts: 7474
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
raven - grab the curse download manager, will (with magic) automatically grab your list of mods and update them if a new version is out

Except gatherer ... I had to grab another mod (mobmap) and copy 3 lib files out of it.

And TomTom, but if you manually grab the latest beta it seemed ok (except for a bug or 2)
pARODY
Posts: 301
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Heya Syco! :D

I play on Blackrock 99% of the time. Got a couple alts on other realms to pester some mates :P
pARODY
Posts: 302
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
parody - got any links to holy paladin sites?


Not really. What sort of info you chasing?
TicMan
Posts: 4483
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Well I use maintankadin for prot which has gear discussions, talent specs, gear itemizations, etc. Was after something similiar for Holy. So far I've just been doing this

- Gear: Grab anything with +SP and is plate
- Spec: Copied a guildies
- Actual healing: Setup clique to become left & right clicker extraordinaire.
darkjedi
Posts: 1663
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pARODY! LTNS. What server do you play on?


Had my first crack at ulduar last night. Looks pretty cool. Wipe fest on razorscale tho. Group I was with already did flame leviathan before I got home from work. I'm a 2067sp 36.9% crit unbuffed holy paladin :]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Saronasta


r=Blackrock&n=Saronasta


:D

pARODY
Posts: 303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

- Gear: Grab anything with +SP and is plate
- Spec: Copied a guildies
- Actual healing: Setup clique to become left & right clicker extraordinaire.


Most Holy paladins don't figure out which holy spec or gear design they should go for. Main trend is getting plate+spellpower and gemming/enchanting intellect as it boosts spellpower, crit and mana pool. My gear and spec is based around crit. I sit in 25man raids with 50+% crit doing 17-18k Holy light spams :D I'm going to play with the new prot talents that increases healing done and recieved to see if its of any real benefit (I think it will as it should still beef up heals when in the debuff of divine plea).
Syco
Posts: 56
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hahah, I totally ignored the link, I just assumed it was a screenshot from uldar :D

Come to Barth :D
darkjedi
Posts: 1664
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Who'd want to do something retarded like that? Blackrock for life!

ps. You gave up on proudmoore?
Syco
Posts: 57
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ps. You gave up on proudmoore?


Yeah think I'm gonna. Sent my Boomkin over to Barth, the feral is going next. Leaving my resto and lock in PM for a bit longer, see how stuff pans out but PM is pretty dead unless you're an Alliance nub :)
pARODY
Posts: 304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Blackrock is good. We're already pugging ulduar! :D

not many realms can say that.
darkjedi
Posts: 1665
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I felt dirty playing my alliance paladin on PM. Couldn't get back to my Warrior on Blackrock any faster!

Yes. BR is awesome, except for all the casinos. Damn bloody things - my ignore list is nearly full...
Syco
Posts: 58
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Blackrock is good. We're already pugging ulduar! :D

not many realms can say that.


PM alliance probably heh.

And Barthilas Horde :D
pARODY
Posts: 305
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
except for all the casinos. Damn bloody things - my ignore list is nearly full...


April 20th they all become against TOS and it will be given a ban for advertising casinos. :]
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