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Topic: Where is GH:WT?!
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've gone to or called every retailer I can think of, and it appears there isn't a copy of this to be found anywhere in Brisbane. I'm looking for the full band pack for the Wii. People still seem to have it for the other consoles (none of which I own) but not the Wii.

I've tried:

Big W
Target
Myer
JB HiFi
HMV
EB
Game
Mr Toys
Game Traders

Is this sort of thing common? Seems like a major f*** up as far as I can tell...
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JakeG
Posts: 459
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I remember when Wii's were pretty much unfindable in brisbane.
LoneWolf
Posts: 392
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
3 days before Christmas and it's a major f*** up because you can't find it anywhere?

Think about it .........
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2305
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
3 days before Christmas and it's a major f*** up because you can't find it anywhere?

Think about it .........
I have thought long and hard about your comment, and have come to the conclusion it's unhelpful.

So it appears that games shops not stocking enough stuff for xmas is common? It seems that this ok? Why are they understocked on the Wii? Did they not expect people to buy it for the Wii? Did they f*** up?

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Like the time I went into KFC and they told me they were out of chicken (I'm not kidding), or is that ok too?
Spock
Posts: 997
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I remember when Wii's were pretty much unfindable in brisbane.


Pepperidge Farm remembers
Pinky
Posts: 273
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

So it appears that games shops not stocking enough stuff for xmas is common? It seems that this ok? Why are they understocked on the Wii? Did they not expect people to buy it for the Wii? Did they f*** up?


It's a question of production. They couldn't produce enough units in time. Don't forget things have to be manufactured still - manufacturers aren't at the stage of assembling molecules at light-speed quite yet.

You think they are intentionally out of stock because they didn't want to make more money? Or...
funky
Posts: 411
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I PM'ed you about a possible copy.
WetWired
Posts: 3960
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is this sort of thing common?


Not really, it only seems to happen around the same time of year, scientists have been researching this phenomenon for decades. For some undefinable reason certain products are in demand leading up to the end of December every year, it's almost as if supply of popular products cannot keep up with demand and scientists have concluded that it produces a result called "sold out".

Recent Theories put it down to the lunar cycle coinciding with menstrual cycles and the summer solstice.
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2306
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No I don't think they did it on purpose, but I think whoever is doing the planning made a mistake. If they understood the demand, then they wouldn't be having their production problem. In fact, just like you intimated, they're losing money because of it, which if I understand why they make them, would be considered a f*** up.

At EB, they said they wouldn't have anymore stock till February (also, the guy seemed really pleased to tell me this, like he was glad). Imagine walking into Retravision and having the guy say, yes, we can sell you a fridge, but you can't have it for 2 months while we manufacture and ship it. Or like my previous example, walking into Kentucky Fried Chicken and having them tell you they can't sell you any chicken till 10am the next day.

Judging by the reactions on here though, it appears it's ok to not make/stock/ship enough of something to sell? Seems like an odd reaction to me.
Pinky
Posts: 277
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Judging by the reactions on here though, it appears it's ok to not make/stock/ship enough of something to sell? Seems like an odd reaction to me.


Dude! They CAN'T! They don't have the capacity. We're talking about a game that was only just released - not like they had 6 months to sort out some large scale production. They probably already broke some sort of Guiness World Records producing the amount that they have, just to sell in US, Europe and Asia - much less little piece of s*** Australia with no population.
scuzzy
Posts: 13214
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Tyco had no idea how popular tickle me elmos were going to be either.
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2309
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it's almost as if supply of popular products cannot keep up with demand and scientists have concluded that it produces a result called "sold out"
I understand the process.
it's almost as if supply of popular products cannot keep up with demand
It's this bit I don't understand. I understand you're being sarcastic, but I don't understand why supply can't keep up with demand? Why not? Didn't someone realise that they weren't going to make enough to sell? Was the cost of producing more from a plastics factory in China going to be prohibitive?

I may be being naive here, but this has honestly never happened to me before. I go to a shop that sells things, and they sell me things. I had to wait 4 weeks for my new car, but that was because I had extras that needed to be fitted and someone to paint one in the colour I wanted, which seems fair enough. A $40k car isn't a $300 consumer item though.

/me shrugs

/me thanks funky
scuzzy
Posts: 13215
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They probably didn't want to over-produce, i'm sure they've looked at market trends and come up with production figures to go on, but theres always a product that no one ever expects to be in such huge demand to compleatly out strip supply (see above elmo).
scuzzy
Posts: 13216
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Plus don't forget Australia is a much smaller market.
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2311
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dude! They CAN'T! They don't have the capacity.
If they can't, then someone f***ed up. Don't you think there's a big wig at the publishers saying "Who did the production planning for this? I'll have his testicles!"?
StopShootingMe
Posts: 2921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think I saw some in JBs in the CBD today.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15878
Location: Ireland
I agree with Matra
épic™
Posts: 2045
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sounds like a grumpy old man trying to justify his own f*** up not getting presents in time
koopz
Posts: 7308
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
or liking a s*** game

this is where he says it's for his kids :P


we still lub joo Manwhore
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16059
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Try Clive Anthonys at Big Top Mt Gravatt. They sell a lot of console stuff there so it's worth a shot.
épic™
Posts: 2046
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
also let your fingers do the walking and call around - pro tip!
Crakaveli
Posts: 2926
Location: USA
I may be being naive here, but this has honestly never happened to me before.


I knew you were lying about the chicken.
mission
Posts: 4515
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I searched for ages to get a copy on 360. I'd pretty well given up (this was a week or two back) but I wandered into the city at lunch time and got the last copy from JB. Other retailers had said 'You've got no chance now until after Christmas'.

I would try:
WOW Annerley - When I looked there they had quite a few copies and said it was a slow mover compared to the 360. Incredible Vegetable was there a day or so back and I'm pretty sure he said they had it in stock for the Wii. I think he also mentioned Target at Buranda had it as well.
Khel
Posts: 12898
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I went into all the shops and told them if a crusty old Mantra comes in asking about Guitar Hero World Tour, tell him you're all out of stock, I thought you'd get a kick out of it.
Pinky
Posts: 286
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Dude! They CAN'T! They don't have the capacity.
If they can't, then someone f***ed up. Don't you think there's a big wig at the publishers saying "Who did the production planning for this? I'll have his testicles!"?


If I say to you peel 3000 potatoes in 2 minutes, what would you say back?

"I can't."

Why? Because you don't have the capacity.

Doesn't seem like a tough concept to me.
Bah
Posts: 3114
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If I say to you peel 3000 potatoes in 2 minutes, what would you say back?
Id say get me 3000 chinese children, same thing the plastic toy manufacturers would say.
Pinky
Posts: 287
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

If I say to you peel 3000 potatoes in 2 minutes, what would you say back?
Id say get me 3000 chinese children, same thing the plastic toy manufacturers would say.


You can get 3000 chinese children AND get them to peel 3000 potatoes - all in under 2 minutes? That would be impressive.
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 4611
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Or like my previous example, walking into Kentucky Fried Chicken and having them tell you they can't sell you any chicken till 10am the next day.


I worked for KFC in my teens years and this does happen (although not too often). Sometimes the suppliers would have troubles delevering, or you could get REALLY busy and just run out of product. Sometimes the managers would just f*** up the projection numbers and order an insufficient amount for the next day.
fpot
Posts: 15885
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
itt Mantra blames manufacturers for his own incompetence.
Spook
Posts: 23755
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sometimes the managers would just f*** up the projection numbers and order an insufficient amount for the next day.


stores run out of chicken for this reason all the time:

they dont have magical unlimited chicken supplys and you obviously dont want to sit on mountains of chickens;

i regularly had to do runs to other stores to pick up crates o chicken when i worked at kfc;
Nathan
Posts: 3049
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

The explanation I've read on this phenomenon is:

You have X factories producing products. You know you will have a spike in demand at Christmas, but what about the rest of the year?

Increasing your factories to X+1 costs a lot of money and it will let you sell product to every customer over Christmas, but then in the new year you've got a factory you can't use.

Is the cost of putting another factory online and the losses from that factory sitting idle for the rest of the year offset by your Christmas sales?

I assume not for this product.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9384
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

If I say to you peel 3000 potatoes in 2 minutes, what would you say back?

Id say get me 3000 chinese children, same thing the plastic toy manufacturers would say.


You can get 3000 chinese children AND get them to peel 3000 potatoes - all in under 2 minutes? That would be impressive.



If I was in the Business where I may be asked to peel 3000 potatoes in 2 mins, I would already have a factory with 1500 kids. I would get them to peel a potato per min, that is more then reasonable. Just a quick phone call and BAM instant peeled potatoes!
XeK
Posts: 689
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
got an new/unopened gh:wt here if ur interested..
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2313
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
or liking a s*** game
It's an awesome game!
this is where he says it's for his kids :P
They'll lurv it!
we still lub joo Manwhore
I lub u 2

Also, thanks for the tips peoples. I had given up, but now I got some leads... and XeK is goin to sell me his copy at a ery reasonable price ;)
mission
Posts: 4516
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm looking forward to Christmas becasue I know my kids are getting GH:WT!

It's great that I can finally buy them a present that I get to use as well.

I am truely surprised at how fun this game is, and I've only played the demo without the instruments.

Protius
Posts: 3970
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Stock has come in at my local wow, getting my copy for Wii tomorrow.
infi
Posts: 10728
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They probably didn't want to over-produce,


This game is a goddamn fad. The beauty of fads (not the lolly) is that the item costs $1 to produce and sells for $100. So any smart businessperson knows that you order several times over your expected demand knowing that you only get one shot to make money out of the fad - One 4 week period in December. And the last thing you want to do is run out of stock for the lemmings to buy.

After that the fad is old news so if you have under-ordered or under-supplied your fad you are a f***en failure.
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2315
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My sister in law got it at GameTraders in Indro. I spoke to them 2 days ago and they said they didn't have it! Sheesh... And sorry XeK :/

Also, Guitar Hero isn't a fad, this is the 4th iteration of it. Sounds like a pretty well established game to me!
Boxhead
Posts: 11895
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ebgames at indro were selling the full pack for the wii this evening for like 140 (HALF PRICE MEGA SALE) or something, from what i could see they still had stock (or they just had empty boxes allllover the place) i think it was 170 for 360 and 165 for the ps2 or something..
boba
Cainer
Posts: 3248
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I just grabbed one from eb indro just then, looks like they had 2 more left
Mantra
Crusty old man
Posts: 2320
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, I saw that tonight. My sister in law had already picked it up from Gametraders for 300 :( They had someone that canceled on a lay by. I spoke to the guy at EB indro last night, and he said no more till February, I asked them about it tonight and he just shrugged.

pfft!
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