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Topic: Streaming video to an Xbox 360
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23651
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So I joined the next-gen console ranks. I've seen a few things about streaming video to the Xbox 360; tversity seems to come up a bit. Is that the best way to go?
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Obes
Posts: 6078
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I streamed a few things from media center.

I think Keato just transcodes.

trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23652
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't want to transcode; I have a lunix box with a samba share with my content on it so if I can keep using that, that'd be optimal
boba
Cainer
Posts: 3017
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you should be able to share most of it if you use media center extender and add it all to your library in wmp11
gimpy
Posts: 2066
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use tversity, does the trick
Fnukle
Posts: 5094
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Trog I use Winamp with the Orb plugin to stream to the 360. Works great no f***ing about just give Orb a directory.
One issue I have is sometimes it can take up to a minute to buffer the movie(wireless), but once started no glitches at all.
crazymorton
Posts: 436
Location: Gladstone, Queensland
go trog!!!! 360 is good....tversity and orb are both good if you don't want to transcode
and i guess you get lots of freebies for review but play asia is good for games with the current $AU
what games you like?
ctd
Posts: 6015
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use tversity because it just is easy. I am open to any better suggestions though.
koopz
Posts: 6928
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use Winamp with the Orb plugin to stream to the 360


cheers Fnukle =)
stinky
Posts: 2579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have a thecus NAS which is linux based that runs this - http://ushare.geexbox.org/

You should be able to run it too given that you've got a linux box. Works perfectly.
fpot
Posts: 15309
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Now you need an HD display to play it on trog.
Spook
Posts: 21620
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dont be silly fpot, of course he doesnt
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23655
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cool thanks guys, I'll have a play w/ those options and see what's what
what games you like?
All I have so far is GTA4; while it's neat I'll confess I'm not completely blown away - but I'm pretty desensitized to games these days :(

At the risk of sounding like a typical PC loser, all I can think of when I play it is how much better it'd look and run on my PC.
Now you need an HD display to play it on trog.
heh I bought one of them too, don't tell Erik
Pharcyde
Kilos
Posts: 4542
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is there a way to stream Xvids to my 360 via wireless without the use of WMP11 or anything?
Obes
Posts: 6089
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is there a way to stream Xvids to my 360 via wireless without the use of WMP11 or anything?


"or anything" makes it kind hard to stream, as you will need something.

All I have so far is GTA4; while it's neat I'll confess I'm not completely blown away

Yeah xbox is a bit like that it lacks games that are console games. imo It tries far too hard to be a computer. Earth Defence force was fun for button mashing co-op goodness, Mass Effect is decent (for an rpg). And Guitar Hero! Oh The lego games.

I have a wii and a 360 and despite the lame graphics, the wii prolly gets more of a run.

Khel
Posts: 12476
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah, I don't mind so much though because I find myself more willing to stretch out on my lounge and play games these days than sit in front of my PC and play games.

Though, I would seriously love a next-gen version of something like Kung-Fu Chaos, 360 is totally lacking in games like that.
Obes
Posts: 6091
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Needs more Outlaw Volleyball/Golf/Tennis with achievement points.
d0mino
Posts: 3082
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I want to see a kick ass karting game for XBLA.
Midda
Posts: 2039
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Tversity is all you need, it works a treat. I use it for both my 360 and PS3. It's better to use than WMP11, because there are certain video files that WMP11 flat out refuses to list on the server. That shouldn't affect you unless you stream HD stuff, but still, something to keep in mind.
Twisted
Posts: 10190
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

So I joined the next-gen console ranks. I've seen a few things about streaming video to the Xbox 360; tversity seems to come up a bit. Is that the best way to go?
+1 for TVersity. If can force it to not transcode if you want at the folder or file. If you've got some unsupported files, just publish/share that folder and force it to transcode.
crazymorton
Posts: 437
Location: Gladstone, Queensland
just so you know
those with xbox sigs in this thread i've just added you as a friend
purely out of fun and curiosity....i'm only a recreation player and don't do much online but just thought i'd give it a go.

cheers
Erik-the-Red
Posts: 2343
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
don't tell erik. pfft, sifn't :)

all good. what'd you get?
d[o_0]b
Posts: 2152
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you have room mates or whatever check out Pro-evo soccer, fight night and good old guitar hero for some quality fun. Just add beer
Twisted
Posts: 10191
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Fight Night 3, Test Drive Unlimited....whole bunch of other 360 games (most I think are average at best) are on sale at Big W at the moment for $28. I think Crackdown, Fifa 07, etc...
B.Hardball
Posts: 7942
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** yeh. Dale and I used to play Fight Night 3 heaps when it first came out! Best f***in' game ever.
E.T.
Posts: 1251
Location: Queensland
I find that tversity always needs to have sharing restarted before it will show folders on the xbox360. Anyone else have this issue? It would be nice to have it work just by starting it up and not have to dick around.
Midda
Posts: 2087
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, I sometimes have to restart the TVersity media server. It's not a problem with the 360, it's TVersity itself, because if I can't see it on the 360, it doesn't show up on the PS3 either. It's been far less of an issue since I upgraded to the latest version though. I really just restart it now out of habit.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23772
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
stinky, do you use libdlna in your uShare install? Trying to compile it now but it's being a bit of a cock about finding the ffmpeg libraries (recompiling ffmpeg AGAIN now with a --prefix to see if that helps it out).

From what I can see it might not even work on the x360 (the libldna page says its only tested on PS3) so just wondering if I should bother with it or not.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23773
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
man, after about 120391039102 hours of manually resolving dependencies and editing configuration scripts I finally got uShare to compile.

The Xbox 360 can see my uShare share, but I can't actually connect to it for some reason - just tries and then doesn't connect - then it seems to lose the share. I think it might be related to the multicasting stuff but not sure.
orbitor
Posts: 7599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
far out trog, could have just switched on tversity and been watching s*** :S
thraxjor
Posts: 3007
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
man, after about 120391039102 hours of manually resolving dependencies and editing configuration scripts I finally got uShare to compile.


ITT people over doing it and making things way too complicated. :P

All I did is install WMP11, Add folder to Libary, go to media share set your 360 to allow. sit down infront of my tv go to video than select your pc and select play.
gimpy
Posts: 2104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
far out trog, could have just switched on tversity and been watching s*** :S


QFT
gimpy
Posts: 2105
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
As big linux user, I say f*** linux on a regular basis :)
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23774
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
far out trog, could have just switched on tversity and been watching s*** :S
Yeh, I wanted to try and get the Linux solution running cuz then I don't need to have my Windows PC on when I want to watch stuff - my linux box is on all the time. ARAFGH!
Twisted
Posts: 10197
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I find that tversity always needs to have sharing restarted before it will show folders on the xbox360. Anyone else have this issue? It would be nice to have it work just by starting it up and not have to dick around.
I find I have some issues with Vista and the inbuilt MS media centre interfering with TVersity. But other than that it runs and I never have to restart the service. ... 1 other thing was VMware. Caused havoc. Had to bind TVersity to my physical NIC IP, otherwise it ran into issues as well.
Triamks
Posts: 1572
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
All I did is install WMP11, Add folder to Libary, go to media share set your 360 to allow. sit down infront of my tv go to video than select your pc and select play.


+1.

Are the files you, difficult people, wanting to run not natively compatible with the 360? Probably a dumb (obvious) question.

last edited by Triamks at 10:01:11 25/May/08
stinky
Posts: 2582
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

stinky, do you use libdlna in your uShare install? Trying to compile it now but it's being a bit of a cock about finding the ffmpeg libraries (recompiling ffmpeg AGAIN now with a --prefix to see if that helps it out).

From what I can see it might not even work on the x360 (the libldna page says its only tested on PS3) so just wondering if I should bother with it or not.


Definately works with the 360, I didn't actually compile it, comes as a pre-compiled module for my Thecus Nas thingy.
stinky
Posts: 2583
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
also theres .deb and .rpm binaries available on the website.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23775
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Definately works with the 360, I didn't actually compile it, comes as a pre-compiled module for my Thecus Nas thingy.
Ah ok - did you have to manually set the routes on that thing for the multicasting support? I followed the instructions on the uShare site but I've seen some people set different/extra routes, so not sure what it's supposed to actually be for that.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23778
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I got it working last night - turns out I need to restart it when I actually try to connect. Once I do that it seems to be pretty stable.

Some questions:

1) Playback on the xbox 360 is nowhere near as smooth as on my regular Xbox - it looks like it's dropping some frames. I haven't tested anything other than uShare yet so not sure if this is just an artifact of uShare or some other configuration issue?

2) I downloaded a 1080p sample video from the Windows Media HD showcase (the T2 trailer) and tried to play it, but it said it didn't recognise the file type - it's just a .WMV that plays normally on my PC. I got a 720p sample video and it worked fine - I recall something about the X360 not playing 1080p but when I google for it the first hit is an AusGamers news item saying 1080p support was being added more than a year ago. Can it play 1080p content?
Midda
Posts: 2105
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've had no problems playing 1080p content. I've played HD Xvid AVIs and HD H.264 files, no issues. I haven't tried WMV, but I know that works, because converting to WMV used to be the only way to get HD videos to play on the 360.

And about the stuttering, is it a network issue? Do the files play fine if you play them from USB?
Obes
Posts: 6142
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Get it working using vista media center.
That'll let you see like when its working properly.

I have not seen either of your problems.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23779
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
And about the stuttering, is it a network issue?
I don't think so because my Xbox w/ XBMC can play the files fine. It's not really a stuttering, just I can see a few dropped frames here and there - most people probably wouldn't notice it, but I'm pretty attuned to that sort of thing in video.
Do the files play fine if you play them from USB?
Good question, I'll try when I get home.

this is the video I was trying (~120mb T2 trailer); if anyone else can download it and see if it works on their setup that'd be awesome
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23780
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't have Vista Media Center
orbitor
Posts: 7600
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
setup TVersity on your windows box and see if it streams fine from that. It'll only take you 10 minutes to setup and have running if that. I've just done the same and can stream non-transcoded 720P perfectly. Haven't tried 1080P as don't have any of that content.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 23781
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeh was going to try that tonight
orbitor
Posts: 7601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah I'll try that T2 vid for ya as well tonight if noone else has already done so.
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