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Idol
Posts: 1951
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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doesn't look too funny so I haven't read it, but I hope this will cause a stir
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groganus
Posts: 284
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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that is one of the stupidest things i have ever read.
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aP
Posts: 82
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Did you mention the wholesale and routine massacare of their ancestors by literally pushing them off cliffs?
guess it would kind of get in the way of a "good" joke, oh well... |
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| #2 07:32pm 12/02/08 |
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Xyzzy
Posts: 161
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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that is one of the stupidest things i have ever read. Thats a lie. It wasn't written by Spook. |
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sif greazy
Posts: 67
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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aP, does your name stand for ass Puppet by any chance?
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| #4 07:34pm 12/02/08 |
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Opec
Posts: 4917
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Idol really should be sorry for making this thread...
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| #5 07:38pm 12/02/08 |
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Reverend
Posts: 1020
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That is doing the rounds through Email mines says it was sent to me by John Howard.
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| #6 07:40pm 12/02/08 |
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`ViPER`
Posts: 329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That all sounds about right to me. I often wondered how much we give per aboriginal person per year.
Hell, why dont we just pay it directly to them as a wage and see how they go. Except it would be gone in the first couple of months on grog. |
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| #7 07:43pm 12/02/08 |
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Idol
Posts: 1954
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hey it made the news!
Sorry it was written 8 years ago... :/ |
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Xyzzy
Posts: 162
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Did you mention the wholesale and routine massacare of their ancestors by literally pushing them off cliffs? They got cliffs? LUXURY. Why back in the crusades, we used to disembowel people and then fling them out of catapults. Or the barbarian hordes would steal or destroy all of a village's food and let them starve to death. And don't get me started on what the arabs and isrealites did to each other. But please don't let me interrupt your hysteria. |
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Xyzzy
Posts: 163
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Idol really should be sorry for making this thread... I'm sure he posted this with his eyes wide open. |
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| #10 07:47pm 12/02/08 |
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fade
Posts: 3165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Stolen Generation... more like the saved generation. 75% of them would probably be dead if it wasn't for govt intervention.
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| #11 07:55pm 12/02/08 |
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Kamma
Posts: 143
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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"$1.7 billion per year for your 250,000 people, which is $48,000.00 per aboriginal man, woman and child."
That's so f***ed up. |
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nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 13852
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Did you mention the wholesale and routine massacare of their ancestors by literally pushing them off cliffs? by routine, you mean it happened once, right? |
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| #13 08:04pm 12/02/08 |
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Strange Rash
Posts: 737
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abbolanche?
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| #14 08:20pm 12/02/08 |
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Zy
Posts: 34
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Did you mention the wholesale and routine massacare of their ancestors by literally pushing them off cliffs? No, but I'm fairly sure you mentioned that our ancestors have nothing to do with us and that if your father commits a murder, you shouldn't go to the jail by right of kin. Oh wait, no you didn't. By the way, half of my family is from Sicily, who had very deep roots there ... I demand an apology for every single time our home island was attacked and taken over and stolen from us. While you're at it, I also demand an apology for the mistreatment of my Scottish and Irish ancestors ... and my English ancestors were pretty hard done by at times as well (before they conquered the world and became the only race that it's ok to be racist against). And you owe me $100,000 for the mental anguish I've suffered for said crimes, knowing what my family went through has been the hardest part of waking up each day. |
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| #15 08:20pm 12/02/08 |
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Anono
Posts: 651
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why should the OP be sorry for posting it. its what alot and i mean alot of ppl are thinking.
the only thing that will come of tomorrow is aboriginal activists will go to court and take more money from hard working australians. The only thing im sorry for is that this country was classified as "terra nullius". oh how much better a country this would be had they just fought for this land when they landed. |
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infi
Posts: 7994
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sorry, the do-gooders win again.
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| #17 08:25pm 12/02/08 |
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mooby
Posts: 3836
Location: UK
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hahaha, nice.
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| #18 08:31pm 12/02/08 |
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TT_Avenger
Posts: 66
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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We apologise forIt's too late to apologise. It's too laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate. |
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Raider
Posts: 2106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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We apologise for developing / stealing oil wells Pretty sure sticks and stones don't dig up and hold oil |
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hast
Posts: 885
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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kamma: the aboriginal population is higher maybe around 500,000. i think the spending is also higher though. i've read in the paper that the federal spending is close to $3.5 billion but i have no idea how they calculated it.
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Kamma
Posts: 144
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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kamma: the aboriginal population is higher maybe around 500,000. i think the spending is also higher though. i've read in the paper that the federal spending is close to $3.5 billion but i have no idea how they calculated it. It's just such a massive waste of funds. Maybe if they'd stop giving away so much money they'd put the petrol away and get a job. |
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Crakaveli
Posts: 2657
Location: USA
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Reason: Inappropriate |
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step
Posts: 1481
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Queue the lawsuits.
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| #24 09:12pm 12/02/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 4858
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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FYI, this is what hes actually going to say tomorrow...
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's apology motion has been tabled in Parliament: |
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| #25 09:17pm 12/02/08 |
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Anono
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the only way this will become a good thing is if Krud says "ok, we have said sorry, you are now equals with everyones else. We are now stripping away all the preferential treatment you have been getting. ps f*** YOU!!!"
cant see it happening that way though, can you? |
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infi
Posts: 7995
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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oh no, this is a symbolic apology, the substance of the apology comes in the cashola.
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| #27 09:46pm 12/02/08 |
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Jim
Posts: 7329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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biggest mistake ever
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Scooter
Posts: 1220
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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With the NT Stuff that happened a few months before Fed Elections... wont that make a whole new Generation of 'Stolen' babies?
Also, Time to treat everyone equally. Past mistakes were bad, real bad. However it wasn't us. So STFU. |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2077
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'm so sick of people calling me racist for opposing this appology.
My family only came to this country 25 years ago (and have worked our asses off since and contributed much to the economy and society), so not even my ancestors were Austrlaian when this happened. And now, somebody is appologising on my behalf because I'm a white Australian? These do-gooders are saying a group should be subjected to something on the grounds of race. Now who's the racist? |
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Strange Rash
Posts: 738
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good thing there aren't any jewish abbos, f***en stolen halocaust victims and i'd be crying a god dam river
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Zy
Posts: 35
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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A future where all Australians, whatever their origins, are truly equal partners, with equal opportunities and with an equal stake in shaping the next chapter in the history of this great country. Good, they now get nothing more than regular Australians ... right? Ah damn it. True equality would be great. |
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Midda
Posts: 1567
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Equal opportunities huh? How about giving me a whole heap of money for no f***ing reason too? And I wont even ask for an apology!
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fade
Posts: 3168
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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good thing there aren't any jewish abbos, f***en stolen halocaust victims and i'd be crying a god dam river f***ing lol. True equality would be great. its the labor w/peter 'omg won't somebody think of the children and the rainforest' garrett govt. they play 'popular' (obviously not popular here, and rightfully so. its a load of balls.) politics. |
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fade
Posts: 3169
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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anyone read KRuddler's speech? He plans to repeat himself again. His oratory skills need lots of work.
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d0mino
Posts: 2880
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The goverment of australia should be responsible for its actions.
The government of australia should apologise for the bad things the government of australia has done to the aboriginal people. |
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fade
Posts: 3170
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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this govt, and the previous 3/4/5/6 have splashed cash at them. i suppose they are the ones who should be apologising hey?
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teq
Posts: 870
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'm so sick of people calling me racist for opposing this appology. I'm with CT, I feel sorry for these people, I really do .. but I don't feel guilty I don't think anyone who isn't directly responsible for the treatment of the stolen generation should be apologising for it We as a people did not do this, it was a decision by a few f***ed up individuals and their followers I certainly didn't have anything to do with it and I don't feel great that someone whom was elected as the leader of my country feels he has the right to apologise on my behalf. |
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aP
Posts: 83
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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He is apologizing on behalf of the past government and their policy.
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Zy
Posts: 36
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Agreed with Teq entirely.
The goverment of australia should be responsible for its actions. You still watching a black and white TV or something, dom? |
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teq
Posts: 871
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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its still not his fault
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TicMan
Posts: 3092
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Only thing from missing from the original post is "WE APOLOGIZE FOR VOTING LABOR".
edit: I didn't vote labor. |
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Phooks
Posts: 376
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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All this does is give aboriginals a greater chance to demand more compensation for "their horrible suffering", committed by the "white community".
It's not my fault. I am not sorry. Is it the governments fault? This falls under the personal opinion of "is the current government categorized to be the same government of the stolen generation, or is it a different entity altogether". Personally, I don't think we should be apologizing as a nation, nor do I think the apology should be towards aboriginals not affected by the stolen generation. In 20 years, providing Aboriginals get on their feet, abolish the stereotype of petrol sniffing grog guzzlers, and stop leeching 50 grand a year off the government and accept that western society owns the world, nobody will even remember the stolen generation. THEN we will all be equal. 50 grand a year for a 6 y/o Aboriginal? What the f*** is that? Equality?! Surely that figure is incorrect. Who pays 50 grand to children? last edited by Phooks at 23:31:58 12/Feb/08 |
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fade
Posts: 3171
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Overlooking the Americanised spelling, aP are you suggesting the Government should also apologise to the Chinese for their mistreatment during the gold rush?
People are forgetting that different social attitudes prevailed during that era. The social attitudes of today should not condemn, let alone force the 21st century Australia to apologise for policies of the past. |
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paveway
Posts: 7222
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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abolish the stereotype of petrol sniffing grog guzzlers you go and tell that to the useless c***s down in musgrave park in southbank |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2078
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The goverment of australia should be responsible for its actions. The individuals in parliament now who had nothing to do with the past mistakes of the government shouldn't have to make an appology, but they should be free to do so if they wish. The problem is that they are appologising on my behalf for something me or my ancestors didn't do, simply because I belong to a particular ethinc group (or don't belong to one). I'm sure there are many other people on this forum who fit that description. Seriously, think back to any race that has wronged your ancestors. If this group offered to appologise for their wrongs, whould you want them to? I'm guessing a normal person of reasonable intelligence who grew up in a first world country would say no. Now, imagine if you could screw the government of said group out of money if the apology, would it mean more to you? s***, I don't want the Japanese or Germans apologising for anything their ancestors did. I wouldn't want their government offering one that half their population opposed. |
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fade
Posts: 3172
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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50 grand a year for a 6 y/o Aboriginal? What the f*** is that? Equality?! Surely that figure is incorrect. Who pays 50 grand to children? By the looks of it, you, me, John Smith, Joe Bloggs. The system is broken and is being exploited. and now they want an apology. |
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gimpy
Posts: 1846
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'll apologise, but I'm not takin off me glasses
LOWLZ SWIDT |
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TicMan
Posts: 3093
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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HAHAH +1 for Corey delivering apology.
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teq
Posts: 872
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hahahaha ^
thanks for a classic laugh before bed guys |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2079
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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HAHAH +1 for Corey delivering apology. LOL! Yeah I'll support hte apology as soon as Corey apologises for what he did. No wait, let's make teenagers in 30 years time apologise for it! While we're out painting entire groups with the same brush, how about we make all indigenous people apologise for my cousin's bike that got stolen? Or make them apologise to all children, because of the few of them who rape children. Seriously though, will the idiots who fell for Krudd's sensationalist bulls*** ever realise how f***ing dumb they were? Enjoy paying all your money to cover your insane mortgage repayments and taxes to cover payouts to aborigines, you stupid a******s! |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3307
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Look as far as I'm concerned saying 'sorry' is a good thing.
Why? Because I'm sick to f***ing daeth of haering about the f***ing thing, I'm sick of the abo's whingeing about it, I'm sick of the media spruicking the f***ing subject, I'm sick of it being a poltical football for the last 'x' f***ing number of yrs. Tomorrow it will all be over. THANK f***! |
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$ack
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Tomorrow it will all be over. dont be so sure, there'll be something else to complain about no doubt. |
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Zy
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Because I'm sick to f***ing daeth of haering about the f***ing thing, I'm sick of the abo's whingeing about it, I'm sick of the media spruicking the f***ing subject, I'm sick of it being a poltical football for the last 'x' f***ing number of yrs. Yeah, let's all cave in and just give them everything they want, regardless of whether they're right or not. |
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Creepy
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There's already been several statements suggesting that after apology, negotiations and discussions will begin on the 'next step'
Compensation. |
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maxe
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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so, how is this apology going to affect my day-to-day life again?
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Boxhead
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Compensation.So which state will we give them?? NT?? then can then turn it in to didgeridoo land with rollercoasters, casinos etc... that'll make up for everything!! |
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Zy
Posts: 38
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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History: Win a war, reap the rewards.
Present: Win a war, reap the rewards, make your children's children's children apologize and compensate for it. Lucky for America they're in a war that can't be won. |
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Bah
Posts: 2719
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What's the bet tomorrow they will be saying "Sorry isn't good enough"
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eighty-eight
Posts: 635
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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HAHAHAHHA funniest thread in years.
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dRanged
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These actual legal proceedings have yet to materialize as far as I know
Anyone with a legal background (Le Cock?) who can offer an opinion on the matter? Would the Fed Govt. be liable, given that while 'sorry' is an admission of guilt, the intent at the time (re stolen generation) was to look after those who couldn't look after themselves? Pretty f***ed if a bunch of Class actions spring up if you ask me. Way to reinforce community opinion.. |
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Opec
Posts: 4920
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There will be a legal case against the gov for sure for monetery compensation.
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Dan
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Posts: 8061
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Entertaining thread, s*** OP. Start a new thread if you want to actually discuss the apology and not propagate some ignorant racist email forward.
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