Anyone interested in creating a team for the GA TF2 ladder? You need 8 players for a team and it would be a nice change from the public servers. No serious pro gamer stuff, just for a bit of fun. Probably just rock up for a ladder match once a week or whatever, not interested in committing much beyond that.

If anyone is interested say here and get something happening.

Well I might be interested.

lol @ hodges being your steam avatar xD

Played with a few people from round here today.
Count me in if required, i'm on the 1 night a week bandwagon.
Are you filling specific class spots?

+1

They need to f***off critical hits for serious matchplay... anything less is just a joke.

count me in

Are you filling specific class spots?

Nah, whatever 8 people. I don't mind playing any class, though I couldn't demo to save my life.
Once 8 or so people confirm some interest we can discuss some specifics like classes and availability.

They need to f***off critical hits for serious matchplay... anything less is just a joke.

Yeah while fun for pub, its a bit stupid and can often be the deciding factor in a round.

Count me in man. I'm usually do good as a soldier.
My steam ID is ET[ROM]{au}

yep i'm in.

soldier is prolly my best, but any class except heavy/medic.

i usually rotate through the other classes depending on what's needed.

I'd be happy to lend my flesh burning services.

i'll be in, why not. pyro/demo/soldier any or all.

WTF, I just checked my sons stats. His best score is 165 points as a spy! WTF !. He managed 86 kills before he was taken out.

My best score in one life is nowhere near as good.

His steam ID is Port360((THC))

your son is a hacker!

Ok looks like we have enough interest, now we need an awesome team name that will display our leetness and strike fear through opponents (comedy option name). Any ideas?

Also if everyone could PM or post GA username

Steam ID is mission, is that what you mean? I don't think I have a GA ID?

I meant one of these gamearena.com.au/account/join.php

I think AGN accounts work? Maybe the older ones.

E.T. [ROM]{au}

After not using Game Arena for literally years (and years) I punched in mission and my trusty universal password and huzzar! I'm in.

So yeah, mission.

whats wrong with teamname [QGL]? does troggles need to approve it or something?

GA username is strex

goferit

just playing my first few games of tf2 and I dont get it; its just the same as tfc but with uber graphics

Thats a good thing then eh!?

Ok created

mission, strex invited to join check emails.
link to ladder team page

what about creating a group in steamcommunity for ...some.. reason.. ?

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/qgl

ok n1 ctd.. joined up in GA.

so now we have our names appear as "[QGL] NAME"
with or without space? i vote with.

ps. keep at it trog. its super rad

guess I'll be the medic dude, shooting stuff is more fun, but i make a kick ass medic. if it hasn't broken or disappeared.. my GA and my steam id should both be Merky007, so sign me up.

Can you resend the email - the email address in GA was from years ago and I don't fancy my luck on remembering the log-in etc.

I've now up dated.

Merky invite sent, mission's resent.

ET he probably sat around stabbing his THC clanmates over and over on a mostly empty server ;)

I highly highly doubt anyone could go 86 backstabs without accidentally getting blown to s*** by some random explosive ordinance or lit on fire by a pyro doing some flaming pirouettes.

So don't feel too bad.

CTD, inviting me?

I might be in on this clan. I'm sure if we could get 20 odd members we'd never be short for wars. Or rarely anyway.

oh my ga tag is eyekandy btw

last edited by eK at 11:34:27 30/Oct/07

I am pretty handy as a Sniper and Pyro, but can also run as Soldier or Heavy, don't mind to much.
Still need people? Im pretty keen to get into some match play.

EDIT: GA name: palmsy

last edited by aP at 23:52:06 29/Oct/07

last edited by aP at 23:52:45 29/Oct/07

Rubba. Your prolly right. I cant see how anyone could possibly get stats so high through legit game play. I'm proud of my high score of 39 as a soldier :)

Whats with the 1 per 3600 sec message limit on Bigpond games? That really sucks the lamahs ass.

D'oh

I joined a clan yesterday :/ otherwise I'd be in on this


May have to war you some time

I'll totally be in for this... ga name is mongie.

last edited by mongie at 00:11:48 30/Oct/07

GA & Steamid: Cemax
Also, Demo/Soldier

Strex i just seen you stab hundreds of people in the back, including myself a dozen times, i think your a decent spy :P

yo

motherf***ers, I've just re-installed steam and I am going to buy tf2 and all that s***

add me heardy is my steam id (I think) heardy@mpu.com.au is my steam email addy...

I'll try to n00b it up once again ;)

I'd be in, can check stats on steam:

J/Loki

Pretty insane handy with sniper rifle. (Not sure why SteamID stats aren't all that accurate. - e.g. most kills in one life is a lot higher than displayed for sniper - Engineer says max sentry is 8 when I got 16 for the achievement etc.)

Pretty good at scout (64/5 best score with caps + defenses :D )

Pretty good at soldier or medic.

last edited by J at 08:54:15 30/Oct/07

CTD where's the invite! ga is giririsss

Oh and thats the same as my steam id.

Strex i just seen you stab hundreds of people in the back, including myself a dozen times, i think your a decent spy :P

hah thx.. i just feel so lame and dirty when i play spy, fun though.

strex less tf2 and more musicca!!!

Gamearena tag is Vorador and I'm up for all kinds of stupidity when these exams are over :/

yeah trog, it's great fun - especially when you get a few people you know on the one team so there's at least a bit of teamwork going on

ladder should be gewd

I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that action - love playing medic. GA tag Mass.

im in too guys if u need another playa ...

steam id: sharkuul

I usually play medic but whateva is cool with me

if you want to be on a team in the ga ladder, youll need to give your ga username

yeah i just went through and invited a bunch of you guys..

anyone else interested drop your ga username here.

ps. ET it says youre not in database, whats the username that you log in with?

So, about that invite CTD.... ?

strex invited me?

didn't get a message?

Ive been at work and uni all day farkin! I'll do them all now. I gave strex and mission captaincy so they could add kents as well.

edit: looks like strex has done them all

Mass
giririsss
DeePer
eK
Vorador
sharkuul
mission
Merky
mongie
Palmsy
Cemax

Should all have emails. E.T can you clarify your Gamearena username (not steamid) and I will add you.

Anyone need a new email sent?

Actually new idea: Go here and find the QGL team down the bottom and click on the 'recruiting' thingy and follow the steps to join.


last edited by ctd at 19:21:00 30/Oct/07

Oh, its just "et"

GA Username: 'jmarton'

I must be missing something; I can see how this game'd be much more fun playing proper teamplay, but man otherwise it's just sooo unengaging. I just can't get interested in what I'm doing. I felt more or less the same about the original TFC so that's prolly why, but I was hoping there'd be a little more to the game after 10 years or whatever of development. Looks f***ing lush as though

Get a game going ASAP?

/waiting for invite

while we're waiting lets post pics of our highest scores

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9794/cpdustbowl0003is0.th.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/961/cpgranary0001kv2.th.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/876/ctfstrongholdb10001su5.th.jpg

at the start of that granary map, my whole team were scouts. it was pretty funny seeing 8 scouts rushing all the cp's and winning the map in less than 2 mins


edit: thanks for the invite

last edited by ravn0s at 21:22:14 30/Oct/07

Im down if theres spots open whenever games go down.

Best classes are pyro, soldier and demo by far, not too shabby with engy either.

Opps steamlogon = rubba_chikin

How bout an invite?

Im trillion on GA

I'm in

usually play Sniper or Engineer but also do a bit of medic etc, will play whatever really.

trillion, already invited. Everyone else needs to post GA login, not steamid. Alternatively go to the link above in my post and ask for the invite, saves a bit of trouble.

I have done the GA thing.
GA username is FUM.

Bandwidth capped atm but back up on Thursday.

last edited by IncrEdible_vEgetable at 22:53:22 30/Oct/07

haha we've been challenged!

lol damn it started at 9.30

last edited by ravn0s at 22:48:48 30/Oct/07

Still trying to ween myself off of bf2 and try and get into this ET:QW s***!

Squarky and vegetable I will add you after, roster is locked because of match. It is only freeplay mode so I dont think people the opposition will mind if 'invited to join' people play.

Booked Date and Time: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 @ 09:30pm AEDT - 8.30pm QLD time.
Start Map: cp_well

At this stage I'd say whoever rocks up can play. If everyone is keen then I am not sure how to decide the lineup.

rad.

i will be spying it up on well fo'shiz

if everyone wants to play.. then maybe lineup should be decided on stats?
this will also motivate to get in and prac..

shotgun scout or soldier

Yeah stats possibly, though I don't think it will be a problem unless this team proves popular.
I have only thought a little about strategy, imo: 2x medic, 2x soldier, 1x spy, 1x heavy, 1x scout, 1x engie. That would be a fairly attacking favoured class selection, maybe mix it up with a sniper which is pretty effective on cp_well and maybe a demo to go defensive. Anyway open for discussion.

also lol:

i will be spying it up on well fo'shiz

dominated on well fo'shiz? xD

The challenger: Queensland Gamers League
The defender: BushRangers
Match Status: Challenge Accepted
Match Type: FREE PLAY
Match Time: 09:30pm 6/11/2007
Current server time: 12:25:55am 31/10/2007
Referee Requested: Yes
Map name: cp_well

Ahh I'll turn up for that.

quiet shrap, or i'm going to gut you like a cornish game hen

in for playing.

lol, they are 4th on the GA ladder - you'll prolly get pwned.

Also that's this Saturday, I could be down for playing, though I'll be hungover :p

aussies only you gaelic newb!

yeah br have been around for a while and are a good squad, this is gonna be a trial of fire.

i think we need a few static classes such as 2 soldiers/heavy/med/engie then the rest can adapt and be whatever class is needed for the sitch.

hahha strex getting all pumped up about an online game...

ahhh I remember the see ess days.... then DoD

there has to be a few cainers left on QGL, to bring the pwn surely!

Well , I like to play HWguy, especially if I know someone's going to be medic with me.

I think the trick to this will be being organised.

All be on vent, all know what our role is... It would be good to actually win a couple of games.

Hokay I signed up on GA and requested to join the team.

the roster is locked due to the upcoming challenge. cant add anyone yet.

should we use vent or is the built in voip fine?

Yeah thats fine.

Vent of course because it means you can still scream out f*** I GOT BACKSTABBED AT "X LOCATION" after death or point out theres a big rush coming in a certain direction after you just got steamrolled.

lol, they are 4th on the GA ladder - you'll prolly get pwned.

everyone is 0-0, so they aren't really 4th...just like we aren't 44th.

well as stated b4 my best class is medic, its not fun though :P hehe i had a good run as a spy this morning, but yeah you got yourself a medic.

Map Cycle: tc_hydro cp_well cp_granary cp_dustbowl cp_gravelpit ctf_2fort

Not sure if that means that will be the specific order or not for the match itself.

I thought I'd start a little tally...

please feel free to correct me...

Scout
Loki
Ravnos
Trillion
CTD

Soldier
ET
Strex
Giri
CeMax
Loki
Rubba
Ravnos
eK
CTD

Pyro
Mission
Giri
Palmsy
Rubba
IncrEdible_vEgetable

Demo
Giri
CeMax
Rubba

Heavy
Mongie
Trillion
Merky007

Medic
Mongie
Merky007
Loki
Mass
Sharkuul

Sniper
Palmsy
Loki
SquarkyD

Engineer
Rubba
SquarkyD
IncrEdible_vEgetable
eK

Spy
Strex

Perhaps you should post your two favoured classes... and we can work it out from there.

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last edited by mongie at 17:54:22 31/Oct/07

I am gonna kick and ban all of you for playing such attention to such an inferior game

I cant believe you dont like it Trog. I really thought you'd be all over this one like a rash. We have a ball playing it. It reminds me of how MP game play should be. Ie, fast and furious.

BTW, Fav classes for me are Soldier (my best score of 39 was soldier) Heavy or Engineer if one is needed.

last edited by E.T. at 15:18:22 31/Oct/07

I have been playing mostly Engineer and Demoman followed by Soldier, but I am really liking Pyro atm.

I tend to respawn as whatever suits the situation eg. if I can see an opportunity for an Engineer to set up in a good spot I will go as Engy for a round or two. If they are bunched up somewhere I will usually go in as Pyro to burn those suckas up.

Obviously playing with a structured team as opposed to jumping on solo requires different tactics etc. Dunno if anyone here ever played Kingpin but TF2 really reminds me of that style of Team Deathmatch.

I haven't really played Spy at all; I haven't really taken the time to learn the spy arsenal. Played Medic once or twice only, as you tend to get a more patchy game when playing against miscellaneous online players.

My two personal faves would depend on the map.
Usually Engineer and Pyro.

PICK TWO CLASSES AND POST THEM

last edited by mongie at 15:57:24 31/Oct/07

I can play heavy too if required, and supported by a decent medic , looks like we need heavies.

scout then heavy

how to do an uber rocket jump:

to do an uber rocket jump every single time, hit the crouch button just before you do a rj. demonmen can also do this with the sticky bomb. crouch just before you shoot it onto the group and you will get an uber sticky bomb.

trog has changed, maaaaaaaan.

heavy or medic then for me.

Engineer or Pyro

I cant believe you dont like it Trog. I really thought you'd be all over this one like a rash. We have a ball playing it. It reminds me of how MP game play should be. Ie, fast and furious.

Really?!? I find it the exact opposite, slow and tedious. The run speeds for all but the scout are really slow - a typical round for me is:

Wait 15 seconds to spawn
Spawn
Spend 10 seconds running out of the base
Kill a couple of people
Die
Wait 15 seconds to spawn

Depending how long it takes in the "kill people and die" phase I might get like 10-30 seconds of actual play out of 25 seconds of waiting to spawn and trying to get out of the base.

I'm still playing it, I'm going to give it a bit more of a chance, but the whole thing seems really noob friendly (which I totally understand why they did that)

yeah, some of the bigger maps really need good engineers laying down the teleporters otherwise you for ages before you get to a contested area in CP.

in CTF it is a bit quicker because the action is more spreadout.

1. soldier
2. scout

As I said before though I'll give anyone a good run for money with any class bar demoman (I am worst in australia at demo).

I can't see why people would dislike this game. Best fun I have had on an MP or SP game in ages.

edit: I challenged Bushrangers because they were the highest team available. Teams down the bottom may not show for games. Also this team is obviously destined for number one.

last edited by ctd at 17:37:34 31/Oct/07

Direct hits with Demo ftw. Love to see those giblets fly!


---> Your head



----------> Your hand

-------->Your foot

I'd like to think i'm a pro at Engineer and Soldier...so put me down for those


Also trog just give it a week or so, I felt similar feeling that you're experiencing when I first started.

Sniper or Soldier

But really any. Other than spy (I havcen't really sussed him out) and I haven't played much of scout.

last edited by mission at 18:51:14 31/Oct/07

Soldier Pyro and Scout.
Sniper if needed.

last edited by aP at 19:13:22 31/Oct/07

Trog you just need to get better at evasive action.

After you've set some 10 min+ records for staying alive with various classes you should be enjoying it a bit more.

Try playing as medic or engy, both of those classes usually have a longer life expectancy than the others too.

Also make friends with a medic and go on a few extended rampages, they are always rather enjoyable :D


On the topic of actual match maps, I really hope they don't use gravelpit or dustbowl... They can be too unpredictable being the progressive kind of play.

I would personally much prefer to see the symmetrical maps only for match play.

last edited by rubba-chikin at 20:15:07 31/Oct/07

The thing to remember guys, is TF is kind of like a dynamic FPS as far as strategy goes.

Good to have a strat/plan to begin with, but the class you start with. You almost certainly won't play for an entire match.
Need to adjust classes etc. for opponents strategy.

Do you have to do the following to be in the comp?

Steam ID
Your SteamID is used to validate your team membership in GameArena competitions/tournaments using the STEAM system, such as Counter-Strike. To obtain your SteamID, connect to any STEAM game server. Once connected, bring down the server console by pressing ~ and then type 'status' - your SteamID will look something like this: STEAM_0:1:23456. Please enter the entire value, not just the numbers from the end.

Sniper or Engineer assuming we are in a defensive state of play, obviously if we were attacking i'd be medic, soldier or pyro.

No, IncrEdible_vEgetable you don't need your steam id set to play in the TF2 ladder.

This ladder will be pretty easy going (compared to the draconian bulls*** that is the css ladder).

Yeah this ladder is intended to be fun, but I guess if too much clan slutting starts happening we may have to do the steamid thing. Bring on the slaw!

THE CHALLENGER: QGL
THE DEFENDER: BushRangers

welp.. :P

soldier and engineeeeer yay
also LOL at vid

last edited by scooby at 22:51:46 31/Oct/07

lol nice werk on the video.

Died capping the last point for the 11th death =[
Granary, 100% scouted.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6353/lokiscoutkh1.th.jpg

I wouldn't mind in on this - I just got tf2 ;) During exam block, so it's not the best of times. Are there free spots?

Fuzzy just put up a TF2 Ladder Info thread. Handy read.

cool to see rjing over the trains is a legitimate tactic.

I'm okay to play as Medic/Demoman/Pyro/Scout. The only class I wouldn't put me in as is Spy, there is just something weird about sneaking up behind guys......but hey, you go for it Strex.

Let me confirm.......match times are Syd/Melb EDST? So our match on Tuesday at 9:30 will actually be at 8:30 Bris?

Are we using in game voice or ventrillo? Does ET have to play (he's really bad, even worse than at quake)?

last edited by Mass at 11:19:10 01/Nov/07

professional gamer and wanker at ur disposal.

was gonna join up with a serious clan but wouldnt mind joining wit u guys, if u need numbers still

real life mates with AP as well, he's a good player

I see that I was invited to join but I never got the email (I suspect it went to my old Bigpond email cause I don't update s***). I've just put a new email into GA profile, can you reinvite me please.

Just noticed in fine fine print in the Profile settings page on GA theres this "Please note: You will require an email address provided by an Internet Service Provider - webmail addresses such as Yahoo or Hotmail aren't accepted."

I had a Gmail address listed in there, changed to a Bigpond one now.

ctd can you send out that invite again please

If you haven't got the right mail set up, and you've been invited to the QGL team, you can accept the invite with this link

http://www.gamearena.com.au/pc/games/title/team-fortress-2/ladder/myteam.php?action=acceptinvite&teamid=33397

Stupid system says I'm not invited. Code monkeys back to work and fix it!

i get emails from ga on my hotmail account. probably because i signed up to ga so long ago before they stopped accepting hotmail emails.

Dudes, you don't need an email. Goto the rankings page and look for QGL team and click on the 'recruiting' button.

The ladder will switch from freeplay to LIVE on Monday the 5th of November (any freeplay challenges will be cancelled at this time)

boooo, our game is cancelled.

GAY

unlock the roster then so we can process all invitations (jabroney w00t)

This is gay, as far as I know we can't add players until the game is over which we aren't going to play. I also can't see any 'forfeit' button.

last edited by trillion at 18:06:58 01/Nov/07

do you want the game cancelled now ctd since its going to be done anyway? you can get on with the invites then

you guys better reprezent

haha, bushrangers is decimate's battlefield clan

they are bad ass and organised

id say its gonna be carnage against qgl

also, im loving tf2

it feels to me like q2, with better visuals and sexier maps;

i like it;

Hey im listed twice, once as invited to join and another as enrolled. That has to be an error.

Hey im listed twice, once as invited to join and another as enrolled. That has to be an error.

You've either newbly used two accounts, or there's 2 trillions

Freewheelin, can you cancel the match since and we can organise the sign ups.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/rubbachikin/demopwn.jpg

Representing :D

f*** that spy was pwning though!

Use lowercase in your clan tags you nubs.

[qgl] name

looks better in game than

[QGL] name

no.. its "[QGL] name" with space.

just because we are massive hardcore pro gamers doesnt mean we have to neglect the shift key.

Game cancelled. Should have mailed all team members signed up already.

Free is a corrupt GameOp who is playing favourites!!

the very best kind!

for the record, tuesday nights a good night for games, that or fri/sat/sun

mon/wed/thursday bad nights for me unless we go late (after 9:30) [Gym nights]

and now that i've replaced my G7 that i broke in a game with strex >< i'm good to go again.

you qgl f*****s are so going to get owned by the sea dot crew!

the very best kind!

haha I was gonna say, "is there any other kind?"

fuken oath strex, back in the day clan names were just like [ABC] [DA] [KJ] whatever, kept it simple, sent the message of what clan you were in

now they are bloody "-=\SOLDIERStrikESrs\==0-=**** or |||-saDADADSDA-||| and all this gay bulls***. Gay. Bulls***.

also c.boba for instance...

haha indeed hippie.

you qgl f*****s are so going to get owned by the sea dot crew!

oh noes! its teh semen!

hahahahahaha

rofl first game cancelled.

I might even have my first ever game of TF2 today.

Challenge "Forceful Insertion" on the GA ladder imo

Jeez I go to work away from the internets for a few days and you guys get organised :-)

Probably not my thing as

a) still learning this game, ergo , not very good at it .......yet.

and

b)mostly on the 'node servers is where you'll find me.

But I wish team [QGL] best of luck anyways.

Cheers

Das Meat/-\xe

medic/pyro/heavy(best taunts ever)

All games have been cancelled, and the GA TF2 ladder goes into regulation mode at 6pm aedt (5pm for qld)
gl fellas

ok cool... so who should we challenge?

Some crap sounding kiddie team with an -= eLiTe cLaN nAmE =-

No way those kiddie teams are full of 15/16yr old hormone charged reflex whores. Apart from being as annoying as hell to deal with they got twice the reflexes most of us have got, lets find some old hacks like us.

sounds like you should be recruited by TOG mass...

anyway peeps, check out the ladder and shoot through some suggestions.

Go the Grr Combustible Batallion. They are in 8th. Their CS stats in the ladder has them at 4w 28l, I like those odds!

can only challenge a clan with a hieght up to 50% of the ladder above you or something iirc

well mass there is a clan called the older gamers

edit: bah beaten

Doesn't matter who we play, just pick one Strex.

I was going to say challenge some noob team called cainers but they are already involved in a challenge
So I just challenged the highest ranked team we could get, mcohnd.

Would anyone be interested in getting a scrim in the next few nights? Book a GA server and give the 8v8 a whirl.

last edited by ctd at 18:39:55 05/Nov/07

Yeah i'll be down for a scrim.

indeed. scrim me.

lets scrim it up

i scrimmed your mum
















she beat me =(

While I have no idea what a scrim is, I'm in.

i'd get some scrims in if you're challening them, they've been scrimming (though losing) against probably one of the high end teams on the ladder so they're likely to have somewhat of a clue.

ps. scrim = prac war

last edited by taggs at 19:22:09 05/Nov/07

Well if we can get 8 people on tomorrow night around 7pm or 8pm then well get some in.

im up for a scrim but can only make it on friday night :/

7 good, in

Post a time you want to hold a prac in this thread and I'll be there if I can.

We have that many members if we had a full turnout we could probably scrim amongst ourselves. Unlikely to have everyone available though.

what maps are in the TF2 ladder rotation?

here we go...

6.2 Map List:

cp_well
cp_granary
cp_dustbowl
cp_gravelpit
ctf_2fort

last edited by trillion at 23:38:39 05/Nov/07

i might be around tommorow

Should be good for 7, or 8 for that matter

Now lets get the clocks synchronized here. When we say 7 or 8 can we assume as a QGL team that we are talking AEST not AEDST. I'm up for a match most any night as long as its after 7pm AEST (kids goto bed then).

I'm down for a scrim. (Are we talking tonight?)

In for scrim tonight.

yes, 8 people for tonight and find some random team, or magically find 16 people :P

#tf2puggy on GameSurge would be a good bet

athzhr is in FI, maybe they would scrim?

ok booked a server for 7.30 brisbane time.

Booking description: QGL
Booked Date and Time: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 @ 08:30pm AEDT
Server address: 144.140.154.137:31300

last edited by ctd at 17:58:22 06/Nov/07

What server is that?

sounds good i'm there

I'm there.....is there a password?

I am in

Also game on Sunday night 9pm, I just got the email.

Who can make this to gauge numbers?

I'm available afaik.

yep, i'm good.

I'm in and I love 2fort. Either medic, demonman or pyro.

what's the pword for tonights server?

password for tonight is qgl

good if we could round up a game on 2fort

if you're in the clan you should have got an email with the pwd in it

oh thats sunday

I'll be good for sunday night - just in the middle of studying atm

anyone at all who wants to come in for a game.. get in the server now.

i might jump in for a crack. this will be my first go at the game though. might be best i dont try in a pub first up

im good for sunday

Pretty good turnout 8 v 8. Was mostly a bit of a co-ordinated pub bash - still fun for the most part.
Got some ideas on what works best in terms of class strategy and etc.

since im the widget bitch ill post this up again. remember thats 9pm AEDT so 8pm our time.

Dammit just as the game started I had to go get dinner.

Oh well.

Played some custom maps tonight on the GA Custom server. Castle, crazed acre and another one I think called mach2. Two of the ones I played (castle and mach2 I think it was)have big wide open outdoor spaces, so a bit of a sniper fest but good for something different.

mach2 has a side doorway obscured from the oposing sniper positions. theres also a drain/tunnel system if you want to try and go the sneaky way.

out of the maps running on the GA custom map server, my favs are mach2 and warpath_b3.

grab the map pack here (95.8mb)

My computer was being a homosexual and I could not stay in game for more than 5 minutes without a BSOD. Go me.

We need to sort a team for Sunday Night, roles for people and some sort of a starting strategy. I would suggest that everyone has 2 roles so we can change up if we need. My thoughts are:
Starting Lineup
Soldier x 2
Medic x 1
Spy x 1
Sniper x 1
Engineer x 2
Demo x 1

Sniper is obvious. Soldiers, medic and spy attacking. Engineers setup between ramp and stairs. Demo watches front entry and sewers.
The changeup will be:

Engineer/Medic
Engineer/Heavy
Demo/Pyro
Spy/Scout

I reckon we are always going to want 2 soldiers, 1 medic and 1 sniper. As needed we would change up the other roles ie. if they have got spies operating, use the pyro to flush them out, if they aren't using engineers then spy swap to scout for the faster intel runs, if they have too many soldier/heavy medic combos then we add medic or heavy to combat.

I don't think it is going to allow too many strict strategies to be played. I would work on the soldier/medic combos grabbing the intel, spies clearing sentries, sniper watching bridge. Keep it simple and keep the communication going. Maybe we should use ventrillo so we can speak during respawns?

if you don't use vent you're going to be at a disadvantage

See even the Semen use vent.....you should really rethink the clan name boba.

i haven't seen spy be very effective against clans who aren't total noobs... also what map are you playing on - each map tends to have better combos of classes.

i'd def get 2 medics, one for O and one for D

BSOD ???

My computer reset at one point. Never had it do that before. CTD haxing me?
:p

Playing 2Fort. Strex was doing okay as spy last night.....cept when choosing a disguise for a class we weren't playing :-) he got loki a few times.

Blue Screen of Death, comon ET wheres ure head!


last edited by Mass at 12:31:54 07/Nov/07

I assumed it was the lame Crysis spec nvidia drivers, and while that improved my playtime by a minute or so, It is still crashing / bsoding.

I'm using the Crysis drivers and my TF2 purrs along. Still I'd roll back to be sure.

well i could be wrong but i do know a few people in a clan who've been scrimming the clan you're challenging - i doubt spy will be effective.

on D i'd have sniper, engi, soldier & either demo or medic.. i'd tend towards a medic because skilled demos are hard to come by

on O: soldier, medic, 2 others.. not overly important. more important is that the 4 on O always stay as group and medic keeps them all up as much as possible.

that's what i'd start with and adapt as the game went on.

BTW CTD, I'm available Sunday night for the bash. Do we know the server details ect?

he got loki a few times.

Hah, once was classic, turned to see the big overhead downswing to my 'backstabbed' face.
Sif I didn't create headaches for the other team as a sniper though :D

Funniest death was on first map.....I was medic running with ET we were heading into the train yard, I was 3 steps behind ET and .... BANG he was gone, straight into the side of the train, gibs fell all around me.

Spies are most effective in their cloaking / sentry takedown, not their mimicking. If they are relying on sentries for guarding choke points, spy is a good bet to either slip it or take it down (combo with rocketboy if need be).

I'd expect demoman to be better than medic on defense as you have goodie hut and engi supplies to keep you tanked. It would be useful if you wanted soldier/medic or fatty/medic for defense against a 4+ push, but I've found soldiers / demos more agile and versatile for defense than comboing up.

Make sure scout / spy talks heaps. Their main role is providing feedback for defense layout. That makes soldier alternate routes much more effective.

If it's going crap, try some whacky offenses like 4 spies, 6 scouts, etc. You can really mess up a good defense and change the game pace.

Since you are challenging, do you have to claim a win? if it does to sudden death and all lose, is that a loss of challenge? If so your offense is gonna have to ramp up toward the end as it'll be virtually impossible winning at sudden death if the other team doesn't have to fight.

E.T. Sunday night is the ranked game, if youre on the list you would have had an email from GameArena GameCreate with all the deets in it by now.

i like the demo in a defensive role. You can't go past stickied up intel on 2fort.

The train rocks. one time I was demonstraing to my wife & brother about the train. I'm pointing at the flashing lights and looking down the track for it and I get this odd feeling I'm looking the wrong way. Sure enough I get pasted from behind as the train rumbles through. Everyone was laughing. Yeah, nice demonstration.

I've tried to land on it, but it looks like as soon as you touch the surface you explode into mist.

Well you guys in charge need to pick a roster to play.

Also how does it work with reserves? What if someone crashes out and can't get back for 5min, 10min, never? Are there spectators allowed that can take a dropped members spot?

I am quite happy to take an engineer spot if one is needed and noone else wants to do it.

Also loki is out due to work afaik so someone else will have to take over the sniping duties.

I really don't mind what class I play - except spy, I haven't really played him yet.

VRBones should be soldier - you hammered me last night with those rockets :(

EDIT - I'll go sniper if you need one.

afaik you can't ever have more than 8 in the server at any point in time. no specs.

if you want to sub the person leaving has to leave before new member joins. so if someone crashes and cant get back in i'm pretty sure you can put a new person in as long as they're on your roster.

I'm happy to go in as demo/pyro/medic. Or if we got too many then I can sit it out, happy either way.

IMO Demo rocks for defence. Setup on the grate above entry.....sticky the entry walls. If they get through to intel then can usually sticky the top of ramp before they get up and spam down the stairs.

You should put eK in my place as sniper if he is available.
(1 vs 1) He's probably the closest out of anybody from our team, or even pub that really provides a challenge.

If you miss your shots as they're dropping down the deck or don't finish them off you need to drop down fire off a few shots (use snaps, dont charge up for long), hope to kill (generally go for the medic of course) then fall back to the hallway (sit in the doorway just where underneath the stairs is, you can get anybody coming up the sewer or through the front doors that way (unless the RJ/Pipe up the grate to spawn).

When they come around the corner, fire off a shot or two (probably most you'll get is two if you miss as you'll have gren/rocket spam heading your way).
If you hit and kill, stay put for the next person coming around, if they moved as a massive group, move out and go up the stairs. Sit near the spawn doorway, pop in and out for shots.
Go for head shots and don't bother charging up, just duck out, hit right mouse left mouse (any zoomed shot even for 0.01 second will kill engy/spy/scout/sniper to the head).
Lastly, keep in mind, the sniper rifle is like the old DoD rifle, it's pinpoint accurate to the VERY center of your screen overy -any- distance, zoomed or not. I don't do this; but the old pinpoint blue-tack on the monitor trick might work/help (for quick R-Mouse, L-Mouse spam).


Keep cycling like path if you can, you wont get deck raped and they won't know where to expect you (most people expect snipers to run, get health and come back to the deck).
You can also cycle back around and drop in behind them, and snipe them from behind in your own base, you can usually get the medic this way (if there's a stand off at the courtyard, drop in from the deck, go to the sewer stairs and you can usually take out their medic and more).

Anyway, that's a rough idea of the plays I'd be tossing around for sniping on 2Fort if I was there on Sunday.

Goodluck guys =D

Mass, that train scared the f*** outa me man :) I wasnt paying attention and didnt have my sound up yet, turned around and SPLAT. f*** it was funny though.

I think I do have that email about Sunday at home. Looking forward to it.

thanks for posting your strats suckers!

Ok, time to get a private forum.

everyone get ventrilomix here if they don't already have it. What vent server do we want to use, anyone have admin to a relatively low populated vent server and can create a channel?

I have admin to a private channel on the ausgamers one that rubba + ek and a few others use for TF2....

i can make you a vent channel on ausgamers vent. send me a pm with the details if you want

Gonna go something like E.T, mission, Strex, Ctd, Cemax, Squarkyd, Rubba, Mass for Sunday night. Think I covered all positions with that, obviously not everyone can play so e-feelings may be hurt :P. Rotate the lineup next week or something (Didn't think so many people would be interested in playing).

Also vent details:
Ausgamers Vent
Server: 203.220.0.236:3795
Channel: QGL TF2 Team
Channel Password: qgl321

last edited by ctd at 21:05:18 08/Nov/07

Do we want to have another muck around/scrim before Sunday and sort out who is playing offense/defense and tactics/positioning of stuff? Would be a good idea me thinks.

Unless its tonight or just before the match Sunday I doubt it. Weekend is for drinking and music. Could do a run through on vent and a GA server like an hour before the match and sought stuff out?

I really would prefer to be backup this time around, my last uni exam is on monday and I really need sunday night to study.

Fair enough, I just read up the thread, mission can you play?

Yep, surely can.

Do we have enough for two teams? Or is the comp closed now?

QGL v QGL would be a battle royale...

Probably do have enough for 2 qgls, but as the ladder goes on i'm surt participation will wane a little and people will start not showing. Better to have too many than too little.

What the f*** does ventrillomix do?

Why would I want 3 versions of ventrillo and teamspeak?

COOL

also, I agree with Giri, slightly... How many people are reg'ed for the team now?

Is anyone setting up a private forum for strat discussions? QGL forum is cool and all but they tend to let anybody join.

We need our own forum for this me thinks......

I'll set one up now... You can't make ausforums any more can you?

http://qgl.mongie.com

Make an account and I'll add you to the group.

last edited by mongie at 20:13:28 09/Nov/07

gw

mod me!

registered

cheers mongie

Why would I want 3 versions of ventrillo and teamspeak?

Because often you will find servers will use old versions of vent and you cant join with the new vent.

fyi, i'll fix permissions when i get home, but the "public forum" is public, as the name suggests, don't start mega discussions in there.

I reckon we should get some regular friendly scrims going against the OCAU guys. They always seem keen for some games.

registered. Thanks for the forum Mongie!

heya boys just reg'ed with forum gw mongie ... ctd my GA nick is 'sharkuul' and i sent u a pm to join the fray =D

hope 2 c u there ...

Registered on the TF2 QGL forum under my old gaming nick, The f***you Man.
I will play as [QGL]FUM though, so as to not offend any delicate sensibilities.

I too have registered.

Registered, applied :p

AHahahaha I woned so hard on dustbowl as a demo (with some help from TE Seven as medic] that I forced an entire team to quit and then the server emptied:

Score as of 11 minutes in the map remaining.

109 kills, 24 deaths, 38 destruction. 167 points :D

Basically score was that high every second sticky was a crit, literally :)


[edit] oops, ignore the second half of the image (I have duel monitors and only paint installed so didnt realise it had both in there)
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0011/LokiOwnsSoServerQuits.jpg

last edited by J at 03:47:29 10/Nov/07

Why does everyone else have a 300 ping?

edit: except for the other guy with about the same number of kills as you.

Speaking of dustbowl pwnage.

I was only there for the last 3rd of the map and managed this.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/rubbachikin/rofldomination.jpg

dustbowl can be a c***. especially with a few good demos.

The 2nd stage start is the best place to hold them down.

If you have 2 demo's putting stickies down into the ditch part past the pregame blocking doors with at least 1 SG on the hut roof for cover and to push ubercharges back into the wall the kills just roll in.

yeah, i've played that several times where the team other team just wouldn't rush on through, and were jsut cannon fodder.

Especially if you got a few dispensers handy too.

i hate playing dustbowl on 24 player servers. especially the third stage.

Playing defense on dustbowl is my fav out of everything.

I have some sneaky spots to put stickies and most of the nubes never learn and just keep coming back over and over and over to get gibbed.

TEH WIN!

gg fellaz

w00t

Wewt! Cap in overtime ftmfw!

Damn some hectic s*** went down on that bridge though :o

Someone post up a end game screen.

Was a f***en epic game ey. 3-2 to QGL.

We grabbed the flag from the enemy base just as the timer was about to run out which forced it into overtime. Really intense for a bit and awesome fun.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcadigan/ctf_2fort0005.jpg - screenie

Woulda been sweet if GA had some source-tv set up.

last edited by ctd at 21:57:38 11/Nov/07

Gah, I forgot about it.

Obviously you got by without me. Three more days then exams are done and I can concentrate on gibbs.

GW on the win.

man that was mad fun :)
Nice last cap in overtime giri (think it was giri anyway)

Huge game, huge

Well done, Rubba told me about the epicness of the game. Last exam for me tomorrow like I said before, so i'll be up for a game pretty soon.

nice work guys.

heh they have matching avatars

matching avatars ftl.. especially if the team also has clan tags :/

matching avatars looked very Wickham St

Yeeeow!

Nice work boys.

Wish I could have been there and not at work =[

I could have sorted that bridge s*** out for ya's ;D
Hahha.

Grats on the win guys

Next challenge is up......I've started a thread over on the clan forum.

I can make all 3 games... wow, not likely to happen again (im on 5 days off luckily).

I offer to take defensive soldier and/or switch it up with a defensive-offensive sniping position.

Anyone who is playing for QGL we've got a prac server booked for Tuesday night, check out the forum for details.


QGL TF2 Clan Forum

If you'd like, our team is on the GA ladder also and would be up for a regular scrim.

We go by Physical Damage, and a few of our members are regulars round here. PM me or go to our dodge forums and we will work something out. Physical Damage Forums

We're about to scrim team QGL, get on vent.

I mostly play as Medic or Engineer. Prefer the support classes. If I'm playing I'll play any class that's needed though.

Edit: Availability...between 6:30 and 11:30 week nights. Weekends whenever. Just need a few days notice :)

last edited by Twisted at 22:38:26 13/Nov/07