Hi all.

I have just recently been thinking about employment and how alot of people get the jobs they have today.


so the questions are
1) What do you do? (Job description)
2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")
3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)

So anyway. here is mine

1) I'm tech support for a company that supplies software to IGA stores
2) i worked at an IGA store for acouple of years (experience with the software), also did an IT course for 12 months at tafe. did 6 months QA aswell.
3) Development / programmer, that or an early grave.

1)my computer says "gmail tester", but really i make sure that all teh jobs we run here keep running, we are a mailhouse, so we take client data and convert it to statements/letters/etc

2)got it degree, coudlnt get work, without experience, went back to drawing board and started at bottom, running printers, and worked my way up

3)its paying for my mortgage and provides me with much entertainment during the day, dunno where im heading

1) Network Admin
2) Exp + TAFE
3) Network Admin

1) What do you do? (Job description)<

Network and Server Engineer


2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")

Education: Triple Major in Ancient History (seriously), 3 years experience at a Telecommunications company in roles ranging from Application Support through to Server/Handset engineer.

When I got too hacked off to work there anymore, I posted here, whinging about it and someone PMed me a job ad they'd seen. I applied and got the job. :D

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)

TBH, I've only been here for 4 months and am quite happy working where I am. This is a small company with a hell of a lot of potential to grow, and I'd like to be there in 5-10 years when it's a not-so-small company and I'm driving a ferrari :D

1) Currently, I am a stay at home mum
2) Got knocked up!!
3) No where, other than hopefully giving my children some stability. Hopefully we can support this way of life until the youngest is in full time school.

1) Student - Bachelor of Applied Science (Medical Science), FT @ QUT - GP
2) Applied?
3) I think the starting salary out of uni is around $55 - $60k for doing pathology type work in a lab.

1. Desktop Support for the Government
2. Education (adv diploma), Experience (worked at other computer places), Got notified of the job, applied, won.
3. Possibly to more of a specialist role, creating SOEs perhaps, paying my way in life

1) Drafty for a civil engineering consultancy

2) Started an associate degree of engineering at tafe, after a while of doing though thought it was time to get some experience

3) will finish tafe next year and move up to designing, meanwhile starting my engineering degree when tafe finishes. eventual goal to be an engineer

also, your mum

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1. cad monkey for edmi.
2. i applied for a heap of jobs when i quit telecom in 1988, got this one.
3. here i stay. if i want to get promoted in this company i would have to go into project management & move to singapore... f*** that. the pay here is average but the perks are fkn awesome.

1. Director of family business in aged care, childcare and industrial property development.
2. Law at UQ
3. Phat lewt for many years to come.

Network and Server Engineer

ranging from Application Support through to Server/Handset engineer.

I've already had a "stop using the term 'Engineer' when you're not one" rant in another thread, so I'll move on and instead ask:

WTF is a "handset engineer"? Do you create and design handsets using mathematical theory?

Survryor

QUT PS47 - Bachelor of Surveying (+Experence during Degree) (Graduated end 05')

Have Graduate Regestration.
Next 2~3 Years Achieve Suveyor regestration and Cadastral Licence.
Manage a Survey section for Larger Firm or Stay on at Council and Work towards being (maybe Senior Engineering Surveyor however probably skip it because of Licence and money would be better else where) Chief Surveyor of LCC.

Distante Future - Run my own Survey Company and rake in the dosh.

1. Director of family business in aged care, childcare and industrial property development.

What?

Sounds ghey.

nearly done mech eng at uni, but i took time off that to work for a bit, now im doing engineering type stuff at a mine in the middle WA, drafting mainly... now a bit of database work has entered to loop. which isnt that bad except for the fact im using filemaker. which is the database equivelant of a can of 3year old tuna scrapings smeared on paper scanned into a computer, converted to text, formatted, compliled and sold as a database program. frankly at this point in time id rather tea bag a green ant hill than use this program... oh well, it pays well... oh and if your a big fan dust, rocks, flies, noxious gasses, this place is right up your alley.

Job: System Administrator / Security Officer
Quals: BIT(Computer Software Development), BEng(Civil), DipIT, MCSE 2k3 Server + other certs in Checkpoint, Lotus admin and infrastructure etc (doing VMWare qual atm)
Going: Security consultant focused on virtualisation.... hardware consolidation is becoming very important.

Quals: BIT(Computer Software Development), BEng(Civil), DipIT, MCSE 2k3 Server + other certs in

Don't civil engineers earn f*** off massive dollars?

Why do IT?

wait... instead of 'cad monkey' i meant 'senior engineer / product developer / drafting manager' *puffs out chest* heh :D


damn snooty engineers. :P

Position: IT programmer
Qual: Diploma and Degree in IT from QUT
Future: To gain enough experience then shoot off to Dubai for a few years and earn enough money to buy infi and his assets and sell him for $1



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1: Lvl2 Desktop Support for Deloitte - Accounting company.

2: Partially completed IT Degree, 4 years in Retail PC sales at officeworks and a year working in IT Support for a hairdressing company.

3: Only been here for about six months, there is a lot of room to progress in the company, but mainly in Sydney, so we'll see what happens.

Network and Server Engineer

ranging from Application Support through to Server/Handset engineer.


I've already had a "stop using the term 'Engineer' when you're not one" rant in another thread, so I'll move on and instead ask:

WTF is a "handset engineer"? Do you create and design handsets using mathematical theory?

"handset engineer" is the f***ing wanky term that my last company came up with in lieu of actually paying us decent wages.. (wanky name !> $$$$)

I would probably have called my role Network/Server Admin and Handset Support Technician.

clubcat why are you working in IT if you have a BE(civil)

forget that s***, IT is a mugs game

whats your job, bro?

i'm a student studying (3rd year now) Bach of economics / bach of commerce dual degree + debt collect0r for $$

how'd you get there taggs?

well i got an alright op. also i am great at lying in job interviews so that's how i got my job.

wow, what next?

honours -> investment banking if i can pull it off. or you know, whatever.

I know one day I will be buying a slurpee from you BR, it may be in Dubai or in Brisbane.

1) dba sql server contractor - keep the databases running so the permies look good
2) degree in IT while doing government traineeship led to junior dba role internship with a bank. then switched to contracting after losing the junior tag.
3) hopefully can continue to stay in enterprise space, there's lots of competition from people that have used MS Access and apply for the same roles charging peanuts, which can make finding a good new role difficult. i'm not interested in management or architecture, there's plenty of interesting new tech in mssql to keep me entertained. can't go back to permie as the paycut is too severe.

1. Student/part time balloons salesman at the BEC. Wiggles, disney on ice, etc.
2. I know people.
3. Party clown?

Job: Character animator/modeler at Krome Studios. Primarily animating though.

Qualifications: Did a Bachelor of Interactive Entertainment majoring in animation at Qantm College. Applied with my showreel and resume, got the job.

Future: I've been here for just over 6 months now, but considering I'm only a junior, I've got a fair way to go in my career. As much as I love it here, I don't intend to be here forever, and would love to eventually start my own studio. Myself, Khel, and some other mates have all talked about that happening in the future, but who the hell really knows what's going to happen.

1. Research & Development @ CoastalWatch

2. Bach. IT, Griffith. Honours this year. almost finished.

3. Possibly a PhD. My honours is in Neuroscience and im fascinated with some of the stuff ive learnt. Will be looking at contuing my research in a Phd.

ha ha Phooks, that cracked me up

1) I work for worldsmart retech. We offer point of sale solutions, software and hardware. I work on the hospitality support team.

2) got the job through a friend and had a degree in e-business from qut.

3) hoping to get into sales. more challenging and rewarding.

"handset engineer" is the f***ing wanky term that my last company came up with in lieu of actually paying us decent wages

rofl fair enough :)

1. My official title at work is "Event Technician" what i actually do is lighting and video for various events, usually corporate.
2. I studied technical theatre before moving to Sweden. Got a job as a temp-tech, got contacts then got an offer at my current employers.
3. I am happy at my job and could see myself staying here for many years.

(1) Intern at Gold Coast Hospital
(2) Bachelor of Science, GAMSAT, interview, MBBS at UQ
(3) Not sure what speciality I'm gonna do at this stage...

1) Business Development Manager for an online hair and beauty retailer.

2) Google.com, a good eye, gift of the gab and lots of photoshop.

3) Myself and the partners of the company I work for are starting a related venture in the next 6 months.

1) Law Student @ QUT. Work PT as a SAfety & Environmental Compliance officer for an electrical contractor
2) studying for my LLB still. Dad got me the current job.
3) I want to get into Commercial litigation.

1) Apprentice automotive refinisher
2) Started off as french polisher, then thought spraying cars would be better.
3) Tradesmen

1) forum hero
2) i guess you could say i schooled a lot of people
3) 20k posts is the long term goal, 15k posts in the medium term

so the questions are
1) What do you do? part time mech and car detailer.
2) How did you get there? Education, Experience, having good friends in the industry
3) Where do you think its taking you? well I have a job interview at RDP tomorrow and its looking really good.

1) Programmer, network admin, general all round nice guy LOL
2) Started working for local ISP in '95 after I finished TAFE diploma in IT. Work my way up, then went back to uni and got me a paper that said Bach. Information Technology with major in Computer Science
3) .................

ενα) software developer with some low level hardware work
δυο) Applied for a job while a lan was on at my place. Got the job.
τρια) Next step is either working for a larger poker machine manufacturer or changing industry focus.

im an apprentice mechanic
i started an apprenticeship
im going to be a mechanic

1) What do you do? Casual Telstra Call Centre
2) How did you get there? Got sick of being a prison officer and moved to Gold Coast and started work at Austar. Have now worked in various areas of Telstra for both contractors and Telstra for 5 years.
3) Where do you think its taking you? Absolutely nowhere... I have a Diploma of Justice and would ideally love to study Criminology...but I'm old now and since Mav passed away, I dont seem to have the concentration span that I used to. I need to get back the passion I used to have for study.

1) What do you do? Customer Service for P & O Trans Australia
2) How did you get there? Started at another job, made friends in the industry, and got there by working my way up and learning the business.
3) Where do you think its taking you? Hopefully into allocating and management :)

spook sounds like salmat

1) support @ mammoth
2) friends
3) nowhere

spook sounds like salmat

they are our enemy

1) Student, tutorizor
2) BIT/BA from UQ
3) To the US in January to chase the phat lewtz.

Edit: Duh, I know my own degree.

1) Lotus Database Administrator\Programmer\It Guru.
2) Went to uni as a games programmer, ended up in Busneiss, lol.
Employeement Agency at Palm Beach; Serrano Russo or something teaed it up for me. Just started this week, full time perm position :)
3) Software Architect, Managing Position, and some pussy hopefully, lol.

apprentice refrigeration and aircon mechanic
just went along and applied..
hopefully earning more money sooon

1. Nightclub security guard
2. Security license, met the security guys during my 5 months as a glassy so I got the job that way.
3.
4. Profit.

1. Youth Minister
2. Met god and the pastor at the church i grew up in, it all just 'felt' right.
3. ???
4. Prophet.

1) What did you do? - Cheffing Apprenticeship
2) How did you get there? - on the back of a unicorn
3) Where did it take you? - to an early retirement

1A) What do you do? - Bach of Applied science in Biochemistry
2A) How did you get there? - apparently, there are many mitigating factors which allow university entry.
3A) Where does it take you? - absolutely nowhere unless you do honors and get accepted into a PHD and then probably eat some more s*** for a while and hope you get lucky and discover some s*** :P

...what the f*** am I doing.

Electrician

pm me if u want some work done.

ta

1) What do you do? (Job description)

Level 2 technical support. Look after everything from desktops to servers, application discovery/POC testing prior to packaging and a whole heap of other crap.

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")

Experience and hard work.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)

It is going to take me to level 3 more specialised support. Happy where I am right now, but I would definitely like to get more into Citrix and virtualisation. Both Citrix and VMWare have some mad tech and I enjoy working with it :)

1> Currently working on contract as Development & Support Officer at Cairns City Council, part of the Business Solutions team.

2> Bachelor of Computer Science and Technology from Sydney Uni, with a Software Developmet major. Four years after graduation cutting C++ against SQL Server for my old employer.

3> Successfully complete many more contracts! Mad dash for cash over the next ten years or so to try and get ahead before Multiple Sclerosis turns me into a complete mongoloid.

IT Support, level 1 & 2 for a major car seller

Got there through pure arse and am waiting to be found out for been a lazy c***

I hope it is taking me to a brand new Mazda3 MPS bring on the discounts!!!!!!!!!!!

1) IT Manager / Executive Chef ( well okay, I mostly just man the BBQ )- Pandemic

2) Did IT at QUT but back in the olden days about all they concentrated on was programming, I don't particularly enjoy programming so I got some work doing PC assembly, got a very jnr sysadmin role at an ISP, worked my way up the ladder, left and contracted in the porn industry for 18 months ( there's a lot of call for a qualified fluffer in gay porn ) then was offered a good deal at the old ISP as a contract was running out. Applied for the job @ pandemic haven't looked back. insane perks, great people, etc, etc.

3) Grow the company / my position to an IT director role (well on the way ), or defenestrate the IT director in the LA studio and take his job, roll around in fat lewt, retire early and fish my latter years away.

not if you trip on a balloon AND DIE!!!!

1) Underwritting supervisor and IT Manager for an insurance company.
2) BIT majors in computer science and artificial intelligence. And i'm actually quite good with financials and management.
3) Same company for the next 40 years, i plan to sit at the top and watch it grow. It's alot of work, but with good sales and growth happening, we're seeing the benefits.

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1) Programmer
2) IT degree plus random short term jobs I got mostly thru knowing people
3) death

1/ Agricultural Spare Parts Interpretor (see here i want this round thing that sits on this other round thing and goes around..)

2/ Did nothing in school, got into a Network Engineering/Sys Admin diploma at SBTafe, did that for 6 months then stopped going one day. Then ran out of money and moved back home getting this s***ty job and hating every minute

3/ 6 ft under soon i hope, f***ed up way to bad. Need to start again.


Drop outs really are losers :/

1) Sound Engineer & Event/Production Manager
2) Started pushing boxes at gigs when i was 18 for a crewing company, started my own small business, worked my way up.
3) Possibily OS on the euro touring circuit for a while, been given the opportunity but i'm actually considering changing to Network Engineering and doing the Cisco thing. Love my current job but its a full on lifestyle.

1) What do you do? Service Manager Computer Store in Brisbane.
2) How did you get there? studied Networking and IT. Plus experience.
3) Enjoy the Job most days. Hopefully taking me into more Networking and away from retail all together.

1) Chief Operating Officer - Department

2) Finished school, did 1 year of an IT degree, dropped out, moved to London, got a helpdesk job at a IT company through a friend, worked my way from helpdesk to setting up and now running my own department. I've been at the company just over 2 years, my departments primary product is pay as you go IT support, as well as everything else the rest of the company offers, its making a sweet profit and growing at a very fast rate.

3) Middle management anywhere, or moving up to senior management anywhere, or i guess starting my own business etc.



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^ aren't you the guy who wacked off at qgl?

1) Web developer (not designer)
2) Arts degree
3) Anywhere that allows time and funds for my personal goals/projects (job is just a means to an end)

1/ computer store techy

2/ my landlord talked me into it

3/ waiting for wifey to get her ticket as a teacher. Country service will be a gift. I suppose there's nothing like being away from civilisation to give you an appreciation for it.. or something like that.

not if you trip on a balloon

$10 please.

so many of you work in IT. How boring :(

1/ Mammoth content champion

2/ Playing Quake and being a generally awesome dude

3/ All-star reporter and king of the Internet.

so many of you work in IT. How boring :(

yeah carn, accountants represent!

NF: Negative on that one cockface

maybe your talking about yourself again?

1/ 'Transfer Agency Manager' is my title, wooo, essentially we invest & redeem monies on behalf of other people/companies/super funds etc

2/ Work at the CBA doing home loans many moons ago, cracked the s***s - put my CV on job sites, got interviewed for a role in the company I work for today (in Syd of course) worked through various s*** kicking jobs, then moved into management - the client I currently look after has over 100billion euro FUM (Funds under management) we're talking massive trades/deals here folks!

3/ f*** knows, I just want to win the lotto & retire, in fairness, I've relocated to another country with the company (all paid for) and will more then likely attempt to have a stint in US/Canadia once I am finished with Europe - then I'll waltz home eventually

I worked for a global custodian (the biggest) and in EU we are the #1 player, so it's all good, they just need to pay me more :p

p.s. the stupid c*** of a place kept me there from 8am until 9pm tonight :( ohh the humanity

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1) a)Student, Science at QUT, b)Lab Techy at QML
2) a)I know how to play the Student game really well. Can get into any degree.
b) By a string of unlikely events, applied for a different job..
3) a)Honers -> Research Scientist, b) experience in a high tech Lab

I enjoy what I do :) ... and what I earn is good enough for me to live on.

I did 6 months paid work placement (which was part of the course at CQU's accelerated Eng degree) and thought if I do this for another 10 years I will have to punch myself in the face.

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infi the only slurpy you'll be getting is one from my schlong, all over you face, in a dark alley somewhere in san francisco.

1) IT crap for stinky @ pandemic
2) Started off doing corporate AV work, quickly learned that its s***, went back to doing IT stuff, did a stint for Computer alliance, another company and then Hutchison and finally hated that too so I applied at QUT and Pandemic and got offered both on the same day..I chose pandemic :P
3) Im hear for the long haul, never have a I worked at a company so awesome and the perks are great. One day ill take stinkys job after he f***s off higher up the chain :P

hey nubbin, Gold Coast Hospital eh? You know CM or Richard?

Me:

1) Energy Market Consultant / Analyst
2) Software Engineering @ UQ, interest in electricity and electronics.
3) $$$$$

1) Race Engineer car 17 at Dick Johnson Racing
2) BE (Mech). Formula SAE at uni -> LMS -> DJR
3) Formula 1

BiKESEAT wins.

ben you've been bouncing for a while now when are we gonna get a melbas security story thread?

1) What do you do? (Job description)
- "Infrastructure Systems Team Leader" is my title. I look after a small team of System Admins & Service Desk guys for our internal IT team. I also manage our network infrastructure (Asterisk for VoIP, Linux for monitoring/reporting, etc), vendor relations (organising new contracts for our IP network, deploying deploying new video conferencing gear across our region, etc) and some other bits and pieces.

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")
- I have no tertiary qualifications or vendor certificates. I worked my a-hole off from the minute I stepped into my first professional IT job. I saw opportunities for improvement whether it was deploying better software, improving workflows and so on. This is now my 7th year of professional IT and starting from a Level 2 helpdesk, I went onto Level 3 support, Senior Level 3 support, Presales Engineer, Linux Web Administrator, Windows/Exchange Administrator, Systems Engineer, Senior Systems Engineer and now this job. I've done that across 4 companies with 2 of them being quite significant in Australia and the last (my current employer) being the leader in their field globally.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)
- Next steps will be taking the improvments I've done in AsiaPac to the rest of the global IT team around the world.. first stop Europe baby!

Wow. A lot of people here are in IT. I know it's a gaming forum but I guess considering my mates and I who use these forums have very little to do with IT it's kinda surprising.

Academics:
1) 3rd Year Psych student

2) Tried a couple of other degrees first and didn't like them... worked... didn't like that either.

3) I see myself either as a clinical psychologist, sports psychologist or something else where I can work with kids. Either that or use Social Psych research to get into advertising.

As for work:
1) Casual Supervisor of the entertainment room at the RCHF

2) Started volunteering there at the right time and they offered me a job.

3) Hopefully I'll continue to have ties with volunteering and all that stuff on a casual basis for a longtime to come. Ideally it would come into handy having the experience when I'm looking for a job out of psychology.

1) Web designer/developer, also contract work in video editing
2) IT degree & Film School. Not that anyone else in the company has those kinds of qualifications, so they probably didn't help get the job as much as you might think, though it did motivate me to think I could easily get work doing web dev and apply for those kinds of jobs.
3) Somehow make money out of this internet thing to have made it worthwhile. Dream job: I want to work in visual effects, without actually being a modeller/animator/compositor or that kind of bulls***. I understand that and have done some work of that nature, but it drives me crazy.

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1\ Hardware Technician / Junior Network Admin for a Software Company

2\ TAFE Dip IT in network engineering

3\ work my way up hopefully, else become super spy

just out of interest, of all you peeps with the impressive job titles who has cracked over 100k salary?

Close :)

Getting nice and close now StreX, esp. if you include super.

I won't do the ton in the 07-08 financials, but unless something stupid happens I'd like to manage it in 08-09!

yeah ive cracked it

just out of interest, of all you peeps with the impressive job titles who has cracked over 100k salary?

yeh.

yeah carn, accountants represent!

Representin'

^ not bad for a lously software engineer ;) I commissioned for ~18 months & made $30k in overtime (which was my house deposit).

1. Electrical engineer, working for a private consultancy. I mostly do HV protection & commissioning work in substations, powerstations, large industrial plants and the like...
2. Did my 4 years of hard time @ UQ
3. Continue moving up the food chain in engineering, with music being my main hobby outside of work.

damn snooty engineers. :P

You better bloody believe it :) If you haven't got a bachelor of engineering, you're NOT AN ENGINEER.

just out of interest, of all you peeps with the impressive job titles who has cracked over 100k salary?

Indeedidly Doodidily

You better bloody believe it :) If you haven't got a bachelor of engineering, you're NOT AN ENGINEER.

i bet u guys rage at the engineer class in games... YUR NAWT AN ENGINEER BUDDY!@#$!$ ;p

no where near $100k mark for me ... guess cad monkey is more my speed ;p

Hey B@ssM@n... i thought your main hobby was to et yourself back over this side of the world ;)

how come you guys are letting your salary crack the 30% tax bracket? or are you talking about all income, not just actual salary?

You saying they should get paid more creatively Jim? Or should refuse a pay-increase before it hits 30% ?

My tax home is a little different.. much kudos to my massive pile of salary sacrifices for that one.

yeah get paid more creatively

i was talking all primary job sourced income

1. Systems Analyst (Banking) mainly hardware 22 years
2. Started science/maths degree got job coding computers for Greyhound
3. Had enough moving to the coast and cutting back to 3 day weeks

EDIT :: Still cut code, was mainly coding for 20 years, moved to over all analysis 2 years ago where you fix things holistic, in that time its mainly been infrastructure upgrades.

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Work for WorleyParsons - Lead Corrosion and Materials Engineer

1- Technical direction, advice and control of Corrosion and Materials engineering work in conjunction with the chief engineer. At the moment our roles are to facilitate and develop a Corrosion Engineering teams for specific projects.

2- Masters in Mechanical & Corrosion Engineering / Engineering Optimization of Chemical Processes, Ph.D in Effects of Reinforcement Corrosion

Pretty much where I want to be at the moment.

arclore, whats your msn? many questions.

1) Sales assistant at Smiggle. All those children. All that white space. It sucks scrote, but pays the bills.
2) Got there by not being able to secure a graphic design job before I went flat broke. Walked in, applied, had job three days later.
3) Taking me nowhere, and driving me insane. Other people's children are monsters. However, it has allowed me the comfort of having an income while I look for a design job.

yeah >$100k is nice but the real benefits from a good workplace are also hard to measure.

Of course I don't care because I've got both bitches :)

I worked out my annual income is $9464,

I tell ya, all these years of being a jew are going to work out sweet once I land onto a $60k job.

Damn you rich c***s.

100k? heh

not even close

1) Bachelor of Commerce/Economics - Probably majoring in finance/quatitative methods. Also work as a casual in a suit store.

2) UQ & The City

3) Merchant Banking.

1) Marketing & Development Manager (large national property developer)
2) Bachelor Degree in Marketing, then have gradually moved more into Development - now studying masters in Property Economics to move up the corporate ladder
3) Next move will hopefully be into site acquisition, not sure if it will be in the high density, broad acre, commercial or retail division yet - then next step CEO bitches!

1) Bachelor of Commerce/Economics - Probably majoring in finance/quatitative methods. Also work as a casual in a suit store.

2) UQ & The City

3) Merchant Banking.

hey, that's what i said!

what year are you in? i've finished the majority of an economics degree and chucking on the commerce dual degree at the end of this semester. i'm doing finance as well. i started out doing the quant meths major (i only need 1 or 2 more subjects to get it) but decided the econometrics isn't for me, hence the move into finace. if you can stick with it though, definately get the quant meths major, you'll get so many rediuclous job offers. hons in economics is bulls*** as well, such good money. a family member of mine is ceo at a QLD funds management company, tried to hire a 2A Econ hons grad from UQ for 65k/year, macquarie took him for 80k+ 1st year out of uni

1) Designing/programming home automation control systems :/
2) BEng (Microelectronics) and Bach IT. Applied for the job to satisfy my dole diary (straight out of uni) not having any clue what it was about and scored.
3) Working somewhere in avionics. Had my goal set on Boeing when they moved to Brisbane =p

1) Sales executive at Vandelay Industries in the specialised import/export division.

2) I know a guy who knew a guy and then we had lunch.

3) Straight to pimpsville baby! Pimp Master Gazman Large~!


We are actually recruiting people right now, its totally commissioned based but we provide an excellent and consistant product base.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/2138/vandelay.html <-- Have a look if this sounds like the game for you.

3) To the US in January to chase the phat lewtz.

Sorry to break it to you N-Dude, but that bubble has burst. The US dollar will continue to decline for a few years. Apparently you can't cut taxes and wage a war at the same time. :)

1. Official (wank) title says "Global Communication Specialist," but mainly I am a marketing copy writer for a major global corporation. I also manage all content on several public and internal web sites and oversee web-based development with contracted database developers.

2. Did BInfTech at QUT for 8 months, dropped out. Then did BA Majoring in ComSci and English. Then ditched ComSci to do double major of English. Then dropped out entirely to switch from part time to full time with my job doing PC building, tech support, etc. Then decided to leave and try my luck in Melbourne. After almost going broke with 5 months of no job, got a job as a Systems Analyst for a few months, until work dried up for the company and they laid me off. Two weeks later I was working as a technical sales guy for an Aussie distributor, which then became a bona fide office for an international company. Switched to work directly for the HQ of the company, but based in Melbourne's office doing marketing copy writing. Then when the company was restructured, I was shipped to the USA. Still here now, with greater responsibilities, and a nice phat pay packet - I also now get an extra week's paid leave because of my long company life.

Point of that ramble is that common sense still prevails, even if you drop out of school.

3. Dunno. 5 years ago I was in Melbourne, 5 before that Brisbane. 5 before that I was in Cairns with no clue. So I can go pretty much anywhere. For now though, I'm waiting on my green card.

1) tourist
2) having money
3) maybe work?

What do you do?
1) Nursery Manager (No not babies) @ Logans Nursery
2) How did you get there? Boss is a close family friend, Mum is the pay lady, worked my way up from s*** kicker
3) Where do you think its taking you? Next step would be to help manage our larger nursery / run my own nursery

1)apprentice sparky
2) friend
3) to own my own company and become a developer and have all u c***s slaving away working for me

my wage is like 25k but LOL

lol tradies

do you like to be called an "artist" paveway?

1) What do you do? (Job description)

Business Analyst, User Requirements.

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")

Bachelors of Information Technology, which proved to open up enough doors to give me a pretty good entry into Analyst positions.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)

I keep getting PM like duties as a part of my day to day analyst things. I’m not sure if I like the PM stuff as a whole.

I’m being flown down to Sydney for an interview for a perm position that pays pretty decently.

just out of interest, of all you peeps with the impressive job titles who has cracked over 100k salary?

Ask me after said interview.

1. apprentice plasterer
2. finish my apprenticeship next year (thank god)
3. hopefully one day run my own plastering company. but thats if i stick with it

in the future, im looking into an online adult store

sex sells

do you eat with your ass as well?

haha thats the biggest jealousy post ever.

oh yeah edit:
- Forklift driver/uni student.
- been working there for a while part time
- in thailand for 2 months at the end of the year, come back finish my degree and head to Europe, maybe throw in a year of resume work before europe

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people who earn that much are probably uneducated and unqualified anyway.

lols... cept the ppl in this thread that say they are getting over 100k have stated thier education & qualifications :P i gots no idea what this last sentence is supposed to mean!?

No professional would ever be faced with that much money.

???

people who earn 100k should be put in prison or something... i mean seriously... some of us can't even afford petrol to f***en GET to work, and people who earn that much are probably uneducated and unqualified anyway. No professional would ever be faced with that much money.

Idol, by that you've displayed nothing more than ignorance unfortunately. I don't earn 100k, But i'm closer to it than i am to an average bludgerigar wage. I can see why some of my superiors do earn that, cos they just are that f***in good. Some of the chaps i've worked with are just plain geniuses, whether through natural talent or bucketloads of the right experience, they are worth the money they're on.

Oh and Idol, contrary to popular misconception, no-one makes you use that dirty, filthy, overpriced excuse for fuel called petrol. Even on the money I'm on I choose not to afford petrol, LPG for me thanks.

And no-one deserves 100k? Tell that to the neurosurgeon when he gets you back walking again. Tell that to the chief engineer of the multimillion dollar bridge you drive over.

id like to see you turn down a 100k job offer idol...

if you dont like your job, don't take it out on people that have done somthing about it.

$100k is pretty reasonable, over that it starts to get a bit silly.

And no-one deserves 100k? Tell that to the neurosurgeon when he gets you back walking again. Tell that to the chief engineer of the multimillion dollar bridge you drive over.

To think a neurosurgeon only gets $240k after decades of education/training... that's probably the one job I can think of that can justify (based on principle) a very large price tag.

Now dips***s in business or your engineer that gets $500k, I think that's bulls***, spread the money around a bit more.

Nothing you can do, skills/experience/education determine your worth... just like people get antsy at CEO's earning $100k a day... if they grow the company $500k a day, he is worth it.

I was listening to the radio the other day, the Macquire Bank CEO earns $128,000 A DAY! They compared that to John Howard, the guy that controls our country, who earns $300,000 a year.

The world is upside down.

If your the right man for the job sometimes you need to be paid more to KEEP you working for the same mob. Generally both parties know this.

edit:- jetlag ++

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hahaha holy s*** idol, rage more

100K a year, when I was in WA working in the mines some of the heavy eqipment operators where getting 110K a year for driving a truck or crane.

Yeah that's different though.

My brother earns $250k (plus free food/accomdation) as a tradie, but the working conditions are absolute hell.

Very different from the engineer with a 38 hour week in a major city.

they do some pretty hardcore hours though, but i mean you'd need to pay that to get people to live in a dust hole!

You an engineer gumby?

alan moss (ceo of macquarie) was paid around $33m last financial year but only a few hundred thousand of that was his salary. the rest is all performance bonuses. he doesn't get paid unless the shareholders get paid. and he performed very well, hence the bonus.

he's the CEO of one of the top investment banks in the world so he recieves a world class CEO salary. if you pay peanuts you get retards. its all supply and demand.

idol you really are pathetic. most people work their asses off to get 100k, you probably never will with an attitude like that.

I know his job is worth $33 million to the bank and is entirely justifiable...

I just can't get my head around people getting paid so much though.

I'm not an engineer, I'm an IT ANAL-yst... :)

I earn 100K+ and its bloody justified. :)

and that's the problem chub - your head

GumbyNoTalent - Analrapist

Newey went to Red Bull for somewhere around the $5 - $6 million mark. Most likely euro's not pounds.

Odds of getting that far in f1 are fairly remote, but around the $500k AUD mark is quite obtainable, and considering how specialised the knowledge is I think that's justified.

comes with age and experience though, and with that you'd be able to pick and choose what you ANALrapeyst

and that's the problem chub - your head

That really hurt Jim :(

comes with age and experience though, and with that you'd be able to pick and choose what you ANALrapeyst

You still have a long ways to go for age and experience.

Study
1) Bachelor of Commerce at UQ
2) QTAC
3) First i want to try and get into risk management or quantitative analysis. Long term goal is to become an actuary

Work
1) Clerk/Bookkeeper for an accounting firm
2) Friend recommended me
3) Don't really want to get into accounting. Will probably just stick with this job until i get my degree

chub, I know your head is very sexy
what I meant was your having a problem with people earning dollaz when you personally don't see why it's justified, is in your head and not an actual issue

haha ain't it the truth

Comon Jim, I'm not a Analrapist, you didn't even put up a fight or object... if you asked me I same a little smile of enjoyment on your face.

http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/analrapist.jpg

whats wrong with earning $100k?

barely enough to support a family and pay a decent mortgage!

working for someone is all fine and dandy but the real money is making it for yourself..

i would prefer to employ 5 people and pay them 100k ea then work for someone for 100k

its all about leverage

Loki:- What c***?

edit:- i'm back in the country too mate.

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1) Yacht Racing and sail training skipper. My boat is called Black Adder and she's a 60' round-the-world racing yacht (has done 4 full circumnavigations already)

2) Saved up the dosh to move over to the UK and do my commercial sailing qualifications, then got head-hunted by a company who runs round-the-world yacht racing events.

3) To skipper a racing yacht myself in the 2009-10 round-the-world race.

My workplace:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3364/mybateau2yh3.jpg

it sometimes amazes me that 18 months ago i was working as an IT phone support guy...


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yeah I earn over 100k

I work generally 50 hours a week (some times more, rarely less) I am actually good at what I do as well, I know you'd all be suprised at that, given the newbiness of most of my posts ;)

Plus it's allowed me to live the good life and go travelling and s***, good times

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And no-one deserves 100k? Tell that to the neurosurgeon when he gets you back walking again. Tell that to the chief engineer of the multi million dollar bridge you drive over.

However that neurosurgeon and engineer wouldn't be able to do what they do without check-out chicks at their supermarket, or the trukies that drive all their food to them, or the Farmer who makes their food. Also their streets would get full of junk from no garbo's.. SURE they could do all that themselves, but then they wouldn't have time to be neurosurgeons and bridge engineers.

^ COMMUNIST ALERT

Damn right! Red commie!
Long haired hippy commie!

Yer I know that is the basic idea of communism and yer I know it doesn't work cause humans are greedy gits.

You still cant deny the fact that those people wouldn't be able to do their jobs without the support of the others. I just want people to respect the garbo/checkout chicks/farmers/bouncers and whatnot as much as doctors and bridge engineers and neurocommies. Not equal pay, cause that wouldn't work, equal respect maybe. Or better yet, just respect people worth the respect and have no need to respect a title.

shutup

$100k is pretty reasonable, over that it starts to get a bit silly.

How the f*** are you supposed to buy yachts, cruisers, 5 different luxury cars, a jet, an 8 bedroom mcmansion with pool, jacuzzi home theatre, bowling alley, and chef's kitchen (along with gimp's dungeon), housekeepers, groundsmen, s*** the list goes on and on.

$33 million would just get you started.

It's all about supply and demand. If you're worth over 100k, you get paid it. To say that no one should be, is stupid, wake up out of lala land and come back to reality.

1) IT Manager / Executive Chef ( well okay, I mostly just man the BBQ )- Pandemic

2) Did IT at QUT but back in the olden days about all they concentrated on was programming, I don't particularly enjoy programming so I got some work doing PC assembly, got a very jnr sysadmin role at an ISP, worked my way up the ladder, left and contracted in the porn industry for 18 months ( there's a lot of call for a qualified fluffer in gay porn ) then was offered a good deal at the old ISP as a contract was running out. Applied for the job @ pandemic haven't looked back. insane perks, great people, etc, etc.

3) Grow the company / my position to an IT director role (well on the way ), or defenestrate the IT director in the LA studio and take his job, roll around in fat lewt, retire early and fish my latter years away.

I read that as, you learnt how to blow a man got a job at pandemic based on your experience, and get promoted regularly for "good service". I envy you ...

As for the various creative pay discussions.
Salary Sacrifice, unless you have a nice employer, reduces your leave loading and super (entitlements in general). And getting creative with how you get paid is not usually an option for government or businesses with hundreds of employees (unless you are high enough in the management structure that the lackies lick your shoes).

that's a choice though isn't it, to stay in a position where you might not have the option to cease giving the govt 50% of your earnings in taxes

if you were smart, you'd build a rail system, linking the entire city with your skyscraper at the center of it

geez

I am an office/administration coordinator for the QLD branch office of an IT consultancy/software partner company.

I was sourced by the current branch manager who knows my parents and thus knows my work experience/achievements.

Have a lot of avenues to choose from, sales account manager or professional services consultant, or marketing and events etc etc. Was approached last week about becoming a junior project manager for the professional services division, so that could be good.

Just applied to go back to uni next year and do something completely different through - even though Ill still be working here. So who knows!

that's a choice though isn't it, to stay in a position where you might not have the option to cease giving the govt 50% of your earnings in taxes

The items you can salary sacrifice without paying FBT don't add up to much though... ( for a desk-jockey ) so apart from laptop/phone what can you SS and be worthwhile ?

What other options are there to reduce your tax ?

1..Senior Voice and Data engineer
Vancouver Flim Studios/ McleanGroup of Companies

2.. Bach of IT at QUT, CCNA ,CCVP ,Unity ,SNPA, Exchange 2003 and 2007

3.. To get my CCIE in VOice and Security within 5 years...


If anyone who is reading this is in Van and looking for some work PM me.. Looking for folks who have some exchange and server abilities

Super

What other options are there to reduce your tax ?

best thing is to see your accountants. if they can't do this for you you should probably get another accountant

What other options are there to reduce your tax ?

In addition to laptop & phone I also SS super contributions and have a novated lease with employee contributions added onto it.

The accountant should tell you to go see a financial advisor.

Separation of advice and the Financial Services Reform Act are confusing but as far as I can tell an account is not meant to give financial advice.

My accountant gives me advice, but always preface's it with, I can't really give you advice but have you considered blah blah blah, you should go see an advisor.

And here is a little pearl my accountant gave me.
It is an offence under the tax act to do something simply to avoid paying tax. You must have a valid reason for using any structure/trust/partnership other than just tax minimisation.

lol

if the accountant tells you to go see a financial advisor for tax structuring, it's also time to find another accountant. financial advisors aren't qualified to give advice in this area other than high-level, and typically aren't familiar enough with the intricacies of tax law to come up with much more than basic and well-known methods of reducing tax in the first place - with the obvious exception of firms that supplement themselves with financial advisors and possibly legal as well

if the accountant tells you that he won't set something up for you because it's an offence to do it simply to avoid paying tax, it's definitely time to find another accountant

Haha nw jim. Thats exactly right.

hey, that's what i said!

what year are you in? i've finished the majority of an economics degree and chucking on the commerce dual degree at the end of this semester. i'm doing finance as well. i started out doing the quant meths major (i only need 1 or 2 more subjects to get it) but decided the econometrics isn't for me, hence the move into finace.

Mate just started this year, fresh out of highschool. Needless to say there is a long road ahead of me, but its rolling along steadily, so im not complaining.

1) Enviromnent Artist (Level Designer)
2) Did some levels as a hobby for Action Quake 2, Urban Terror etc
3) Pretty happy where I am, I guess just working the ranks up, I think everyone doing this kinda stuff wants to be a game designer on their dream project but the reality is it's pretty much a pipe dream.

1) Technology Manager @ Hoodlum Active
2) Bach of Info Tech QUT, 10+ years on the job (Computer Programmer / Software Engineer)
3) Ruler of the known universe, or maybe even a little more lofty, running my own software development house ( be it games, websites or business apps, as long as it working for myself )

Super

Future self can get a f***ing job and stop expecting to bludge off my hard work.

your hard work now is the same as your hard work later
its just more difficult to do hard work when you're like EIGHTY

if anything it'd get easier for him - right now he's (understandably!) reluctant to get his teeth replaced with falsies so he can remove them for work, but when he's 80 he probably won't have a choice

super is the best tax minimisation gig known to man.

unless you work for a not for profit organisation

then you can SS your credit card with whatever you like on it

1) part time Environmental Coordinator at the North South Bypass Tunnel. Basically looking after Enoggera Creek and making sure we don't mess everything up while the tunneling goes ahead.
2) Bach App Science QUT
3) Hopefully full time, then maybe Airport Link project or something

unless you work for a not for profit organisation

Or a hospital - Salary Sacrifice of mortgage repayments is pretty awesome too.

) IT Support
2) I have a degree in a completely different field (laughably so), I got given the job based on IT experience, eagerness to learn, and a mate of mine who worked there hooked me up.
3) I love my job. I like the people, I like the conditions, I like the pay and I like the potential. I'll probably use the job I have now to learn other skills like CAD or something or use my current skills to advance to a position relevant to my degree (these positions exist within the organisation).

Hey Mr Hardware, what level government do you work for? Is it Federal, State or Local?

1. retail at morgans seafood/ full time B environmental science at UQ
2. applied to both, got both
3. hm, geology, or something... probably or something

teeth replaced with falsies so he can remove them for work, but when he's 80 he probably won't have a choice

try taking care of them properly (dentist said do that and they last ages) pretty amazing how much longer things last when you take good care of them

nice work domino

^ way to miss the joke knob face

how was there even a joke there?

haha

You don't get it Jim... I wasn't saying "don't do everything to reduce tax" that you can do. I was saying "you have to have a credible reason" or its illegal and the ATO come round with large pointy things and probe you.
eg. To set up a family trust sans a family might raise the interest of the ATO ...

A single person with no dependants not running a small business or anything will have a much harder time coming up with a reason for any of the various structures.

On top of that, ask your accountant next time, whether they'd recommend a trust or other structure for a single person, with no dependants and limited assets (ie. no house).

As for picking an accountant who is actively seeking to break the law ... no thanks I'll give my financials to someone less likely to head to some dodgy pacific island.

anyone can setup a trust. set up as many as you want (in fact Trusts are a brilliant way to minimise tax AND protect yourself from meddlesome spouses at the same time!).

people are allowed to do whatever they can do minimise tax. But Part IVA of the Act prohibits tax arrangements with the primary purpose of minimising tax i.e. it must be a legitimate commercial structure and not be focussed on reducing tax liability.

Even if there is no specific law against the activity Part IVA is a catch all that makes illegal dubious activity.

nah I get it just fine obes

not being married or not having a house have nothing to do with not being able to set up a completely compliant trust. there are so many valid and sensible reasons for it aside from merely reducing tax

and who said anything about picking an accountant who is actively seeking to break the law? that's a silly comment

or a trust for that matter

agree with jim, there is not really much reason why any person would ever pay more than 30% tax where you can control your income source.

Obviously working for a large corp its different since they have a requirement to pay you in payroll

You said get an accountant who gives financial advice. They have to have a licence (as a financial advisor) to do that, and once they do they are not meant to give you advice on tax.

Unless covered by an exemption, if you advise or deal, or provide any other financial services, you will need an AFS licence. The maximum penalty, if convicted of carrying on a financial services business without an AFS licence, is $22,000, a two-year term of imprisonment, or both. Reg 7.1.29 and reg 7.1.29A of the Corporations Regulations provide that, for accountants, certain conduct is taken not to be the provision of a financial service under the Corporations Act (the Act).

So either actively seeking or ... ? ... pass

I have had 1 "event" with the ATO, and the accountant washed his hands saying that he filled in the claim based on the information I supplied (ie. it was all put back on me) ... I now play by the rules rather then play any games. I don't even "fudge" how many donations I made. And its not like my accountant is a dill, they got 3.5 grand back for me this year, 2.8 grand last year.

And honestly ... The accountant and advisors I have seen have all said things that are similar to this comment

Q. Should everyone have a family trust?

A. No. Sometimes such trusts are recommended to persons with negligible assets and income and no dependants, mainly so that those making the recommendations can collect fees.

some random on the net

Negligible assets, yup check no house. Not quite negligible but the only way I could actually do much to reduce their impact is to use a loan against them for an investment (then write the loan repayment off at tax time). Any other options for transferring them attracts a lot of fees and taxes.

Income, yup not in the top tax bracket (so even novated leases on cars do nothing, salary sacrificing notebook and super don't drop me below the Medicare extra levy not that it matters cos I am over 31 now anyway)

no dependants, check .. heck not even a spouse

They flat out said no to setting up a company.

They did recommend margin lending and managed funds... and at the time of the advice I almost did. Luckily I didn't because 4 weeks latter and the market corrected and I could have faced some very big margin calls if I had fully leveraged (easily in the order of 40 to 60 grand). So for the moment I'll keep plodding along for long term growth.

Point being advisors don't always get it right. And there are risks (even they tell you that tho).

And jim ... not everyone has at their disposal the options you have to hide all their income.

Johnny coward may only get 300k a year but he's also loaded with who knows what benifits and perks. Big super payout, accomodation, travel and a busted a****** from bush.

My $1 personal cheque signed by John Howard is going to be worth truckloads one day... He's my hero.

You said get an accountant who gives financial advice.

no, I asked some folks why they let their salary increase to the point it attracts more than 30% tax. stinky then replied asking "What other options are there to reduce your tax?" to which I replied "best thing is to see your accountants"

you're the one who introduced financial advisors

And jim ... not everyone has at their disposal the options you have to hide all their income.

1) no s***. if that's the case, then the simple answer to my original question is 'my current financial situation makes it difficult for me to reduce my taxable income'. it then becomes a question of 'why dont you change your situation?'

2) I don't hide any income

I don't hide any income

Like you would admit it....

maybe I'd at least refrain from claiming that I don't

my current financial situation makes it difficult for me to reduce my taxable income.

Mate just started this year, fresh out of highschool. Needless to say there is a long road ahead of me, but its rolling along steadily, so im not complaining.

ah ok, cool. well if you ever have any questions about any of the econ subjects @ uq feel free to ask, i've done next to none commerce as of yet though =)

Or a hospital - Salary Sacrifice of mortgage repayments is pretty awesome too.

what?!@

thats got to be a rort of some description!

i need to ss my mortgage repayments

You can only SS crazy stuff if you work for a not for profit organisation, or as orbitor pointed out, a hospital. I know I saw something on the departmental emailzz the other day that I can SS electricity - i don't know if that is just public servants or employees in general.

I run a casino...

Actually I work for Telstra doing data entry sorta stuff but im in training for Dispatch which is work scheduling and workflow management for Telstra technicians for an area of NSW country.

Fetches a little over 20 an hour.

aren't you pretty good with 3d stuff 3dee?

accountants represent

Yeah me!

1) Undergraduate Accountant (Finished all my accounting subjects though and just doing my IT subjects, so yeah should be graduate). Been there for 11 months and over it!

2) Finishing my last 2 subjects this semester of IT/Business(Accounting) degree at QUT! Started uni in 2002! Can't believe I am seeing the end of it!

3) Doing my CA over the next two years, and getting a new job once I finish uni this semester. Fairly over my small time (4 person) accounting firm. Want something in the city with 10+ people who won't expect me to be an IT tech, Receptionist and Accountant who bills out over 2.5k a week. Or if they want me to be all that at least pay me more than 30k :| (PS anyone hiring?)

what?!@

thats got to be a rort of some description!

i need to ss my mortgage repayments

Don't get too excited dude, it's only up to a threshold of like $15K pa which isn't very much on a mortgage...

Plus they only do it so they can make being a doctor in the public system slightly more palatable without really paying them anything extra.

im an elite internet troll

it's fine to say you shouldn't pay more than 30% tax, but what is the point in earning it if u can't spend it? the super hole is now capped @ $50k/year for most people and there's only so much you can hide behind your business. maybe you can spread the income out to a non-working partner, but they look at that closely, and if you are bringing in over 200K i don't see how a normal person (not superrich) can avoid the higher tax rates AND keep the money useable.

sure you may leave half of it in the business account so u do $50k super and $50k in income, but that's $100k u aren't spending on cocaine and hookers so you would've been better of working half as hard.

well i'd sleep pretty soundly knowing i had contributed $50k to my super in 1 year

Super is all well and good, but it's not the place for all your excess money to go. Unless legislation has changed, Super isn't protected by the reserve bank or the govt. Once our resources boom is over and investments take a dive, you could lose some or all of that money.

Plus I agree, $50k/year into super is pretty nuts, unless you're on really big money. I've got 40 years to provide for Future Stinky, I only have a fortnight at a time to provide for Present Stinky.

1) Full time student doing an Advanced Diploma in Mechanical Engineering.. Undecided if I will follow onto QUT and get my degree. At this stage I don't think it's necessary for my work plans..

Also working part time for my fathers fabrication business.. We specialise in welding pipework that is under pressure and also fabricate structural type applications for oil refineries such as BP/Caltex.

2) Being a family business, I had no choice lol... But I'm getting into it as it's a rewarding job and it's a high paying industry.

3) For many years I was unsure of what I wanted to do with my life (I was also working for my fathers business at the time)... I realised I had a good opportunity in front of me and finally decided to take that opportnity and run with the old mans business. Eventually after I finish my studies and work alongside my father for a few years, I will take over the business.

That's the plan anyway.

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06 SBIT adv maths REPRESENTING

Matt, have you applied at the big 4? I work at Deloitte.

ways at hiding cash you find, tab sportsbet bank. no interest but all you ahve to do is bet once a month ;P

use your fathers morgage house account to let him use yours. Keep cash in hidden spots in teh home, like shirt pockets so when you go out you have cash already =]

shares is a good spot also, but jsut take ones that dont move like the low mining ones that have been around for 5 years.

but yeah, anyway with the questions

1. work at the wharfs.

2. got job from dads mate(gotta be blood or a friend to get in there most of the time)

3. going to work out there till i die. paying $700 a week tax isnt that bad ;P

Super is all well and good, but it's not the place for all your excess money to go. Unless legislation has changed, Super isn't protected by the reserve bank or the govt. Once our resources boom is over and investments take a dive, you could lose some or all of that money.

Both BHP and Rio Tinto analysts believe that the resource boom will be starting to fade in 2011 and pretty much over by 2015.

Oh, the baby boomer generation has started to retire. The real influx starts in 2011 and most of them will be retired by 2015. So, combined with the market absorbing a loss of investments on resources, it's also going to find itself filled with millions of investerswho are starting to sell, sell, sell!

1. studying early childhood
3. kindergarten/prep school/years 1-3 teacher

it's fine to say you shouldn't pay more than 30% tax, but what is the point in earning it if u can't spend it?

ahah is that a trick question?

by day, i'm a IT dude for department of defence at gallipoli barracks (enoggera). very cruisy job and its f***ing awesome hanging with all my old army mates.
by night, i'm a web designer/manwhore.

needs more dj'ing at a club at night, imo

thats my weekend job :D

i'm a busy man who still has to fit in some TF2 prawnage.

aren't you pretty good with 3d stuff 3dee?

Yeah, 3dee is heaps f***ing good at 3D, i seen his portfolio.

But the local games industry is f***ed, they require X amount of years exerpiance, so, even tough ppl like me and 3dee have the skill and passion they f***ing give it to some idiot who has x amount of years experience :(


So, when no programming games, other alternate is busneiss dev.

I practically getting paid atm to re-write a database on SQL.
Gonna use Windows Graphics Foundation form .Net 3 and XAML so deployable though web and locally.
Pay is awesome s*** too, with pay rise in a few months to the 60k mark.
Also getting paid to learn C#, and XAML which f***ing rocks.

Peace, and 3dee we gotta start our own game company up in future, lol.

At least we'll get the job!

The Friendly Job Offering Games Studio Ltd
Yes! We actually employ people!

I had no problem getting a job at a games studio, with no previous experience at all. Same applies to a few people I know. Sorry to say it, but maybe you're just not what they want.

1) What do you do? (Job description)

Make games

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")

Combination of past programming experience, unf***ing my life, a Qantm degree, and being really persistant. Its not really easy getting your first job as a games programmer when you have no real-world games industry experience, so being in the right place at the right time helps too and having some cool s*** you've made to show off doesn't go astray.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)

Pretty happy where I am now, just gonna get a huge chunk of experience under my belt then maybe travel a bit if I can get some work internationally, eventually setting up my own company and working on my own projects (like Wetwired said, if you get into this industry, and you got a passion for it, its pretty much your end goal).

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Fireblood,

I work for a mid tier firm in the city, about 60 odd staff.

Shoot me your resume and I can pass it on if you're interested.

Our internal HR also place accountants in other firms.

So provided your resume looks good and you go ok in an interview, a job shouldn't be too had to come by.

Were you essentially a bum Khel before you quit the internet?

I was pretty much a bum, yeah. I was employed but I was jumping from rather crappy job to rather crappy job with no real idea of what I was actually gonna do for the rest of my life. Was pretty miserable, knew I didn't want to do what I was currently doing, but didn't really have the balls to try and get into games cos I didn't want to fail at it. I had this romantic notion that holding onto at least the dream of one day making games was better than trying and facing the potential reality that I couldn't do it.

But eventually I grew a pair, did that Qantm degree, and contrary to popular belief actually finished it, and ended up landing a sweet job down in Melbourne in Feb this year. I'm still a bum now, but at least I'm a happy bum with money and a job I love :P

Fireblood,

I work for a mid tier firm in the city, about 60 odd staff.

Shoot me your resume and I can pass it on if you're interested.

do you really want to find a job for a former fatties wearer?

Oh, I didn't realise he wore fatties.

Offer revoked!

so being in the right place at the right time helps too

My understanding is that your hard work lead you to being at the right place at the right time.

and having some cool s*** you've made to show off doesn't go astray.

Not just cool s*** that you've made to show off, but being the person who did most of the cool s***, and is able to go into great depth about the design decisions on why and how it was built that way; and how they would improve it in the future.

But the local games industry is f***ed, they require X amount of years exerpiance, so, even tough ppl like me and 3dee have the skill and passion they f***ing give it to some idiot who has x amount of years experience :(

Totally not true. It's all about which positions are currently available. You think a games company is going to 'make' a position just for you ? Plenty of jnr staff get jobs straight out of uni/art-college/etc, or even just from a kick-ass show reel.

I dunno, I reckon recruitment in the Game Industry is handled in a pretty s***ty way, they do treat most of the applicants who have no experience like s*** (maybe not intentionally, but thats the impression it ends up giving off). I never got one single rejection letter from any of the jobs I applied for that I didn't get (Pandemic included), not even a "We received your application but aren't hiring" email or letter or anything from anyone. Even when I followed them up, still no response from most of them, it was pretty piss-poor really. Even with the job I did get, the recruitment was still handled in a pretty hap-hazard manner. I think maybe theres just no HR people in the games industry who know what they're doing (in Australia anyway).

One of the animators who came out of the same degree I did actually applied to Blizzard, genuinely thinking he could get a job there straight out of school. He got a canned rejection letter, then a few days letter got a personal email from the HR guy that just said "lol".


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then a few days letter got a personal email from the HR guy that just said "lol".

You for real? thats funny as ahha

pwned

One of the animators who came out of the same degree I did actually applied to Blizzard, genuinely thinking he could get a job there straight out of school.

You think that's bad, I had a mate that came straight out of a multimedia type degree and he applied for Pixar.

I would assume you need to be pretty skizt to work for them?

I'm an international man of mystery

took many years of careful study and manipulation

plan on a big adventure in the next few years

then a quiet retirement on a farm with a pig and a cow and a duck and a chicken and a cat and a goat

the end

You think that's bad, I had a mate that came straight out of a multimedia type degree and he applied for Pixar.

That's awesome!

I'm an international man of mystery

took many years of careful study and manipulation

plan on a big adventure in the next few years

then a quiet retirement on a farm with a pig and a cow and a duck and a chicken and a cat and a goat

the end

So, you're gay. Right?

only with ur mum

1) What do you do? (Job description)
Maintenance fitter, we rebuild, maintain and fabricate machines which make all your favourite items, be it the roof over your head to the machine that makes a lunchbox.

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")
I started out an apprenticeship as a Fitter& turner, finished that 6 months early and got a job straight away at Bluescope steel, worked there as a contractor and then went on a salary (huge mistake) @ 60kyr plus bonuses. I quit there because the money was s*** for the amount of hours I worked.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)
Well I just got a job at Tyco Water who makes all the huge steel water pipes, should be good since I'm starting on 30.50$ day shift and 34$ night shift, plus 12 hr saturdays @ double time hells yea.
Pretty sure the contract there will run out in july next year and from there I will probably try to head into the mining industry as a fixed plant fitter.

1) What do you do? (Job description)
Art Director / Designer (As i typed that an ad i worked on was on tv!:)

2) How did you get there? (Education, Experience, "friend of mine gave me the job")
Did a graphic design degree at QCA and then got a s*** job paying nothing and worked my asssss off for a year for little/no reward. got fired. spent the next year working in s*** jobs (bottleshops etc) while i did Award school and got my a good idea based folio together. Got my first job in the Ad industry by not taking no for an answer and being very persistent. Started at the bottom doing finished art - went to graphic design - and now I am art directing.

3) Where do you think its taking you? (are you happy sitting where you are? whats your next step?)
Move up to the bigger projects here at work - get a better folio together and either go OS or interstate.

Art Director / Designer (As i typed that an ad i worked on was on tv!:)

What ads have you done?

AT LOWES

I dunno, I reckon recruitment in the Game Industry is handled in a pretty s***ty way

I dunno, I think unless you go through a recruiter this seems to be the norm in both the games industry and the IT industry.

and 3dee, I imagine the employ ppl with a few years under their belt because they know how everything works and is meant to be done and possibly have a bit more skill after doing it for so long than yourself (no offence intended).

That said, the company I worked for actually just employed 3 junior artists fresh out of uni, so there is hope for you yet.

I dunno, I reckon recruitment in the Game Industry is handled in a pretty s***ty way

Yeah, I think there's a a bit of a lack of communication between the HR departments and the people who are actually wanting the staff.

In my case, when I graduated, I applied to all of the major game studios around Brisbane. Firstly, I got all of the "thanks for applying, we'll get back to you shortly" emails, and then a few rejection emails came through. Krome rejected me, Auran rejected me, HalfBrick rejected me, and I never heard anything further from Pandemic.

Then, through some weird logic, I got a call from Auran offering me an interview. I go, and they offer me the job, which I accepted. Then, Krome calls me a day before I start at Auran, asking for an interview. I went anyway, just to see what they had to say. They practically spend the interview telling me how amazing my animation reel was (not exaggerating, it was really weird), and offer me a better position than the one at Auran, for a little more money. So, I took that and called Auran to tell the news.

Then, a month or so later, I get an email from Halfbrick asking for an interview, and then I get a fairly disappointed sounding email when I tell them I already had a job.

I was telling this story to my lead just after I started here, and he was like "What!? They rejected you? I was telling them for WEEKS to get you in for an interview!"

So yeah, I'd put it down to lousy communication.

khel: just some qld local clients, brookwater, queensland teachers credit union.

I dunno, I think unless you go through a recruiter this seems to be the norm in both the games industry and the IT industry.

The only places that I’ve seen that don’t even have an auto responder on their jobs@ address are places that make me question if I really want to work there or not. I mean, if they can’t be f***ed being professional enough to set up an auto responder, then what other professional qualities are they missing.

Yeah, I think there's a a bit of a lack of communication between the HR departments and the people who are actually wanting the staff.

This happens everywhere - I'm trying to find an experienced Level 2/Level 3 support guy and HR do the discussions with recruitiers.. the recruitiers have been sending through juniors or people fresh out of Uni!@%

The only places that I’ve seen that don’t even have an auto responder on their jobs@ address are places that make me question if I really want to work there or not. I mean, if they can’t be f***ed being professional enough to set up an auto responder, then what other professional qualities are they missing.

I doubt there would be many workplaces that don't have an auto-responder on their jobs@ mailbox.

Meh, just go over HR's head, find and interview people yourself and then send them to HR to get offically hired.

Actually something I've noticed in the last few years is that everyone I know that wanted to get into the games industry, and had *some* skills to back up that is now working in the industry.

twinsen / 3dee: Yeah I thought he was pretty good, I remember him posting some crazy eye/humanoid which looked wicked. Just keep at it and you'll get there eventually. I work in the games industry although not as a dev. There are many ways to enter the position you want and it's not always direct. You could, for example, work on some hobby projects/mods/open source projects to gain experience and broaden your skill set. You could do some QA work. You could mop the floors and get to know people even. It all helps. Just keep at it.

Plus, if you know you are good, and a company doesn't hire you- there loss right?

there loss right?

Their :P

Also I hear sucking dick is an effective way to get a job....just as morgan! :P

Hey! I got THERE in the end right!

Plus, if you know you are good, and a company doesn't hire you- their loss right?

If you consider you being out on your arse with no job as their loss, I suppose.

Mongie - Sup dude, been a while. Yeah I applied to a PWC and one of the others (tired) got through to the big f***off full day interview at the start of last year. But wasn't going to be finished my degree until end of this year, thus didn't get through much further (plus the interview was crazy and I had no idea what was going on)

Spook - EMPHASIS ON THE FORMER! They are pretty f***ing comfy though! PS your just cranky because im younger and more beautiful than you

Mission - what you got against phatties wearers?! lol (ps former) I am still gonna hit you up though! After exams though, stressful enough without waiting on answer to a job interview.

sorry matty, you are forever to be tarred with the phatties brush

fully serial, dont make me post the pixture

Mission - what you got against phatties wearers?! lol (ps former) I am still gonna hit you up though! After exams though, stressful enough without waiting on answer to a job interview.

No worries.