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Topic: SATA HDD + CDROM = Crash
TicMan
Posts: 2218
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hi Folks,

I just got myself some new PC bits, but whenever I have the SATA HDD (160Gb WD) and the SATA ROM (LGH62N) running I have *no* end of problems. To even get Vista to boot I need to have the HDD on one SATA controller (Intel ICH8) and the other on the Gigabyte SATA (JMicron) controller. I also experienced similiar problems with an IDE DVD-ROM which made me go out and buy the ROM drive today

Even if I mix about with setting SATA controllers to IDE or ACHI mode it still f***s up in a big way.

Motherboard is a GA-9865P-DS3P and I've got all the latest drivers.. anyone had similiar problems and know of a solution?

Cheers
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TicMan
Posts: 2219
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Come on lads, don't make me goto Whirlpool :(
whoop
Posts: 11428
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
only advice I can give is don't use vista. I'm using sata hard drive + sata cd rom on xp and it works just fine.
Jabroney
Posts: 625
Location: Queensland
this is saaaaaaaaataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
koopz
Posts: 6224
Location: Queensland
sata dvd burner + gigabyte mobo = loose I've found


if you were having a problem with an ide rom then that just plain sounds suspicious
g0atland3r
Posts: 513
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Would it have anything to do with a raid setting or that you are using the odd in the wrong sata port??
E.T.
Posts: 643
Location: Queensland
I think your motherboard is the same one I have, 965P-DS3P, not GA-9865P-DS3P.
I posted here with a heap of SATA trouble a while back:
http://qgl.ausforums.com/index.php/439207?agn=thread&id=2528785

I didnt end up getting the drive working, but, thank god, I had everything of value on it backed up. Its now in my sons computer. I had to convert it to a basic disk, format it and it was fine.

I bought a new SATA drive and it works great on the Mboard, so its not the controller.

I'm planning on getting a couple of new SATA II drives a trying again. Hope you get yours worked out.
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5298
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lolabyte theres yo problem :)

Define no end of problems?

Will it just not boot with a HDD and ROM connected. What other problems are you having?

BTW if it is a seagate HDD, they have all been coming jumpered to SATA 1.5 mode lately. If you look on the back of the drive there should be a tiny grey plastic jumper. Pull it off to put it into SATA2 mode (providing you have a mobo that will support SATA2)

last edited by rubba-chikin at 11:40:33 11/Jun/07
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1818
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i laugh at people who buy gigabyte

They are ALWAYS the types of c***s who think they are so smart and can outsmart you and that the gigabyte board has something awesomely useless like dual bios and so its better featured and its like $3 less than the equivalent asus one and so yeah that makes anyone who buys gigabyte they ams the smarts.
NOT.

Asus ftw. Some people don't like em, but hey, name me a better board brand all round.
E.T.
Posts: 644
Location: Queensland
^^^ what a load of generalised dribble

I expect the item to deliver what its advertised to. I dont give a s*** what the brand is.
TicMan
Posts: 2220
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think your motherboard is the same one I have, 965P-DS3P, not GA-9865P-DS3P.


Yeh sorry, was the 965-DS3P .. was early hours when I made the typo.

Define no end of problems?

Will it just not boot with a HDD and ROM connected. What other problems are you having?


Random oddities like sometimes the HDD will be detected, other times it won't - if it is detected then it will come up saying no boot device but power off and on and it will boot upto Windows asking if I want to boot into safe mode, etc. This is with the HDD by itself or with the HDD & ROM connected or with the HDD & ROM connected but the ROM in IDE mode or an IDE drive connected to the IDE port, etc.

BTW if it is a seagate HDD,


It's a WD drive.

i laugh at people who buy gigabyte

They are ALWAYS the types of c***s who think they are so smart and can outsmart you and that the gigabyte board has something awesomely useless like dual bios and so its better featured and its like $3 less than the equivalent asus one and so yeah that makes anyone who buys gigabyte they ams the smarts.
NOT.


I laugh at you! I bought a Gigabyte board because it had some good reviews, was a decent price ($160ish) and had some cool features on it. It wasn't because I'm the type of c*** that thinks I'm so smart and can outsmart anyone else (I'm a c*** for a much less complex reason). This is the first time I've bought PC bits in years so I just go buy what other people say and the reviews the equipment has had.

Also - I think I found the problem.. after so much pain I believe the HDD is homo'd. Seems to make some odd sounds when powering up so that's a pretty clear sign it's hosed. Let's hope MSY are reasonable about returning dud hardware.
Cl1nt
Posts: 869
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I just go buy what other people say


You need a phys-x card. It's the way of the future lad! buy one!!
Spook
Posts: 18862
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fyi, ive always bought asus mobos, and have had limited trouble

old mate i work with has a mate who used to be a supplier (OTC)
and they reported most problems with asus

i just dont know how to believe anymore
whoop
Posts: 11432
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You need a phys-x card. It's the way of the future lad! buy one!!

ghost recon makes use of these doesn't it?

i just dont know how to believe anymore

both could be true. Say you sell 50 gigablunt devices, then you sell 5000 asurocks devices because they're better, obviously you're going to get more asurocks returned simply because there's more of them being sold and a greater chance for a single part to be found incompatible. And a greater chance someone will f*** up the install and blame it on DOA hardware.


last edited by whoop at 21:33:04 11/Jun/07
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I work with both gigabyte and asus daily and without a doubt asus has far far less problems. Its usually dicky compatability problems or spastic bios settings.

Just for an example, if you have the Q-Fan/auto fan throttling enabled on boths boards, the asus board will just spin nice and slow, the gigabyte fan is stopped and gives a little jerk every few seconds until it reaches the predetermined temp then the fan kicks in.

So thats okay although a bit freaky for the nubes with clear sidepanels omgomgomg my fan is not going?!?!@! Anyway if you have the cpu fan fail warning enabled. Of course the asus is fine but on with the gigabyte at post you get an extra big BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT cause the fan is not moving.

f***ing dumbass s***.
whoop
Posts: 11433
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that's strange, on my p4 board which is asus the qfan thing stops the cpu fan and it didn't come on even though the cpu was at something like 55 celcius. I turn that s*** off anyway though
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5302
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sounds like your q-fan is broked :)

If the fan hasn't even started by 55 deg something is horribly wrong.
fpot
Posts: 14426
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Anyone else think that Mr Hardware is a bit retarded?
TicMan
Posts: 2221
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Urgh :(

Turns out the BIOS update that "adds support for new CPUs" did infact do more than just add new support for CPUs, in fact I think it went as far as fixing whatever the f*** was wrong with my machine. Updated the BIOS last night after finally finding a floppy drive & disk and it's been OK since then. Managed to backup my personal documents (midget porn) to my file server while ripping CDs into Media player so looks like whatever CPU support they added has fixed the problem.

Mr Hardware
Posts: 1820
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
like rubba, i used to work with gigabyte and asus daily and i had the same sorts of issues. I wouldnt hate gigabyte so much if the owners weren't generally c***s.
TicMan
Posts: 2222
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So Gigabyte is like the Mercedes of the motherboard world..
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1823
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well i wouldn't say that

maybe mitsubishi i think. more features for less money (to buy), but more unreliable and owned by people who think they're getting a good deal whilst everyone else knows they're not.
TicMan
Posts: 2223
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
But Mitsubishi owners are usually twats as opposed to c***s that drive Merc's.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1825
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
okay then, well then gigabyte owners are usually twats. i have difficulty distinguishing between a twat and a c*** generally.
Splash
Posts: 2492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Anyone else think that Mr Hardware is a bit retarded?

his sig is, atleast
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1828
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you don't like my sig?
its from a trog thread many moons ago where he claimed he had an inherently faulty PC, no matter what. That was my response and people seemed to like it alot at the time....
Splash
Posts: 2493
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it doesn't make sense
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1831
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well y'see, a PC can't be inherently faulty. there are only a few possibilities for faultiness. either buggered hardware, incompatible hardwares, incompatibilies between software and hardware or a problem with software.
Splash
Posts: 2494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but the combination of hardware and software is the definition of a computer
infi
Posts: 6217
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what abouts it's soul, it's ability to love and be loved.
TicMan
Posts: 2224
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just like Number 5.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1832
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well, i more meant combination of software and one piece of hardware.
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So you just learnt a valuable lesson, BIOS flashes can be very important especially for niggly issues like you were experiencing.

It is the FIRST thing we do when starting a freshly built machine.
Spook
Posts: 18868
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ps, bios flashes work wonders on routers as well
whoop
Posts: 11435
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Say you have no problems with your computer, would upgrading to the latest version of the BIOS still be a good idea because of cpu microcode additions and other small fixes/speedups at POST the same way running the latest version of graphics drivers/chipset drivers is usually a good idea? Or should I just go by if it ain't broke don't fux with it?
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