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Topic: Optical Illusion
parabol
Posts: 3277
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

In the image below, are the blocks A and B the same colour and shade, or different?

(The actual blocks, not the letters)


http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/optical.png
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Fubar
Posts: 198
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nope
i even cut them both out and i say no
paveway
Posts: 5119
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no..
Fubar
Posts: 199
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
some optical illusion. you are probably going to say that we are wrong but i still say NO.
shrapse
Posts: 3524
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fairly old, they're the same colour

look at it with a hazed vision and you'll see
mooby
Posts: 3447
Location: UK
yeah, ive seen this before. they are the same... crazy.
paveway
Posts: 5120
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what are you guys on about ?
parabol
Posts: 3278
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Pull out your favourite painting program and compare the colours (with eyedrop tool or whatever).

And yes it is old, but obviously not old for everyone.
whoop
Posts: 11323
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What happens if you put square A on a treadmill? http://users.bigpond.net.au/ritsuko/emoticons/plane-treadmill.gif
infi
Posts: 5919
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they are not the same colour, you can tell just by looking.
CHUB
Posts: 2114
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't know what's going on, can someone please explain this to me?

This illusion is making no sense at all, surely it can't be real.
Superform
Posts: 4339
Location: Cairns, Queensland
mission
Posts: 3163
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
While I cbf doing the paint thing, they certainly don't look the same to me. But I'll take your word for it.
CHUB
Posts: 2117
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The Paint thing confirms that they are indeed the same colour.

Now I just want to know *HOW*?
Idol
Posts: 698
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Because a brain is not a video camera that sees things for how they are, most of what you 'see' right this second comes from estimates and memory that fit in with rough visual cues, there are many many mistakes your vision system makes that can be demonstrated through these excercises.

In this case you know that the squares are meant to be black, white, black, white, so that is what you see, I guess.

Your brain also compensates for off-coloured lighting, perhaps it compensates for shadow to help you see into darker areas.

last edited by Idol at 08:09:12 18/May/07
Opec
Posts: 4553
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah they're the same colour. I even tried this with photoshop colour picker and I was shocked to see that they're the same.
Le Cock
Posts: 4226
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what about all the other blocks in the picture?
casa
Thimes
Posts: 2381
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

This is so f***ing old, i cannot believe you fags haven't seen it before.
Obes
Posts: 5075
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That's your comment to everything tho casa.
captivate
Posts: 966
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they are not the same colour, you can tell just by looking.
QFT
Reverend Evil
Posts: 14670
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Snakeman
Posts: 408
Location: Germany
^^^ Well done, "Princess Bride". Classic movie.
infi
Posts: 5921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
casa's sandy vagina washer is broken. give him a break.
casa
Thimes
Posts: 2382
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

obes is old, and thats the truth!
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20617
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that's freakin cool, I didn't believe it until I checked the colours with a colour picker
3dee
Posts: 1361
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Your brain also compensates for off-coloured lighting, perhaps it compensates for shadow to help you see into darker areas.

Thats probably the most relevant thing to this optical effect. A human knows that a surface colour is continuous regardless of the different 'colours' (i.e. shades) that the retina is picking up.

last edited by 3dee at 11:45:51 18/May/07
demon
Posts: 2788
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they are not the same colour, you can tell just by looking.

i guess that is what makes it an optical illusion :P both blocks are #787878.


obes : nah casa's comment to everything goes more like this ...
*whine*bleat*bleat*bleat*cry*dive* ... at least that's all i read it as ;D
cJay
Posts: 910
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For ppl who just dont get it and the non-believers :)

http://members.optushome.com.au/nickr/images/optical.png
Alt_F4
Posts: 204
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They are.

Cut out a bit surrounding the A and the B and paste them next to each other on white background.
infi
Posts: 5926
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this forum has been infiltrated by wizards! get... out...of ... my... head
Hogfather
Posts: 1245
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Here:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Hogfather_UTC/optical1.png

paveway
Posts: 5123
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
holy f***
infi
Posts: 5928
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
now you have just coloured it all in. this is getting ridiculous.
Jim
Posts: 5714
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what the hell is going on here?!
parabol
Posts: 3283
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
While I'm at it ...

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/stereo.gif
Jim
Posts: 5718
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it's a shark!
infi
Posts: 5929
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i just found out i have epilepsy. thanks.
Lynx
Posts: 632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Carcharodon carcharias, 26years old and measuring 4.8m long weighting 1590kgs. Has scar on the left side of the dorsal fin and three teeth missing.
paveway
Posts: 5124
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i could never do those things :(
Spook
Posts: 18635
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i agree wtih casa

u guys all sux at the intenets
infi
Posts: 5930
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
emo fanboi^^
Marty
tubby
Posts: 1070
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
As soon as I saw it I instantly knew they were the same.

If it's a trick then maybe I have super vision :O oooH!

last edited by Marty at 13:18:34 18/May/07
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 7795
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Explanation:

The visual system needs to determine the color of objects in the world. In this case the problem is to determine the gray shade of the checks on the floor. Just measuring the light coming from a surface (the luminance) is not enough: a cast shadow will dim a surface, so that a white surface in shadow may be reflecting less light than a black surface in full light. The visual system uses several tricks to determine where the shadows are and how to compensate for them, in order to determine the shade of gray "paint" that belongs to the surface.

The first trick is based on local contrast. In shadow or not, a check that is lighter than its neighboring checks is probably lighter than average, and vice versa. In the figure, the light check in shadow is surrounded by darker checks. Thus, even though the check is physically dark, it is light when compared to its neighbors. The dark checks outside the shadow, conversely, are surrounded by lighter checks, so they look dark by comparison.

A second trick is based on the fact that shadows often have soft edges, while paint boundaries (like the checks) often have sharp edges. The visual system tends to ignore gradual changes in light level, so that it can determine the color of the surfaces without being misled by shadows. In this figure, the shadow looks like a shadow, both because it is fuzzy and because the shadow casting object is visible.

The "paintness" of the checks is aided by the form of the "X-junctions" formed by 4 abutting checks. This type of junction is usually a signal that all the edges should be interpreted as changes in surface color rather than in terms of shadows or lighting.

As with many so-called illusions, this effect really demonstrates the success rather than the failure of the visual system. The visual system is not very good at being a physical light meter, but that is not its purpose. The important task is to break the image information down into meaningful components, and thereby perceive the nature of the objects in view.


http://bjo.bmj.com/content/vol86/issue2/images/medium/01465.f1.gif
This Sight has an easier explanation along with some animated gifs showing the illusion in action.

last edited by Tollaz0r! at 13:41:28 18/May/07
shad
Posts: 1865
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You dumb bastard, it's not a schooner, It's a sailboat.
Raider
Posts: 1882
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/male_optical_illusion.jpg
whoop
Posts: 11324
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Here is an illusion that was brought to my attention. The effects of which some people claim still haunt them days, weeks and, on another forum I visit, even a year later.
CAUTION IS ADVISED

It still works on me a few months after I first saw it :(
Spook
Posts: 18638
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that was s***

this is a much better colour illusion and it doesnt take minutes of staring at s***

http://www.johnsadowski.com/big_spanish_castle.php
infi
Posts: 5935
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats neato ^^
Excruci@ting
Posts: 4996
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cool - im impressed.
Excruci@ting
Posts: 4997
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that was s***

this is a much better colour illusion and it doesnt take minutes of staring at s***

http://www.johnsadowski.com/big_spanish_castle.php


lol.
Cl1nt
Posts: 775
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one.
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