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jmr
Posts: 4777
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hey guys, I need to block MSN through a WGR614 Netgear Router.
Does anyone know what ports (Its a range I believe) I need to block, or the best way to go about it ? TIA |
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| #0 03:26pm 21/03/07 |
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FurryBear
Posts: 52
Location: Queensland
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Just google MSN Ports and take your pick
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| #1 03:31pm 21/03/07 |
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jmr
Posts: 4778
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Man that was helpful
I am more worried about the fact that if you block 1863 etc it tries through 80 |
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| #2 03:51pm 21/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4907
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hotmail/MSN/Live is very very difficult to block, even if you block the client, you can get around it via web clients, TOR etc etc etc
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| #3 03:54pm 21/03/07 |
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stinky
Posts: 1888
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Does the router allow you to block http via content type? if so :
application/x-msn-messenger |
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| #4 03:54pm 21/03/07 |
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Eds
Posts: 8205
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I believe messenger live also now has a way to go through 80 if it cant go through its normal ports.
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| #5 04:40pm 21/03/07 |
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Jabroney
Posts: 536
Location: Queensland
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why do u have to block msn?
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| #6 04:53pm 21/03/07 |
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jmr
Posts: 4779
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Because I am addicted to it
No really its so my children stop using msn while they're supposed to be doing homework |
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DirtyApe
Posts: 197
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I would have just set them up their own user account and block that user from installing stuff. Put a password on yours and hopefully that would stop them. Or did I miss the point?
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| #8 05:08pm 21/03/07 |
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Predator
Posts: 277
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I would have just set them up their own user account and block that user from installing stuff. Put a password on yours and hopefully that would stop them. Or did I miss the point? Sure that will work, up to the part when you do want them able to use messenger on the weekends say and want to flick on and off access as appropriate. Mind you Obes has a point, nothing to stop them using a web client or whatever TOR is? last edited by Predator at 17:18:13 21/Mar/07 |
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| #9 05:18pm 21/03/07 |
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Eds
Posts: 8207
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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or they discover web messenger, there is only about 10 different ones you can yse now.
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| #10 05:20pm 21/03/07 |
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`ViPER`
Posts: 187
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah, blocking by ports is pointless, its just uses port 80, only way is to block the addresses it goes to, havent got the list handy, but if you google, you can find the url's it goes to, there are quite a few it tries, and then block them.
But after all of that, they could just use a web based client and it will work, but i spose you could block that url aswell, but there are heaps of them. |
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| #11 05:21pm 21/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4909
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There is a program that kills any window that has a particular phrase in its "title". You could set it up to kill any window (note. window not process) that had Messenger or MSN in its "title".
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| #12 05:38pm 21/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18135
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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you could try threatening them with a backhander if they use msn when they shoudlnt be?
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| #13 05:47pm 21/03/07 |
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TicMan
Posts: 1744
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Rename msnmsgr.exe when you want them to do homework - rename back when homework is done.
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| #14 05:49pm 21/03/07 |
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Alt_F4
Posts: 151
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Rename msnmsgr.exe when you want them to do homework - rename back when homework is done. Err lol, that wont stop web messenger. Gonna agree with Spook you could try threatening them with a backhander if they use msn when they shoudlnt be? |
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| #15 05:52pm 21/03/07 |
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captivate
Posts: 921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah theres no point, you can access meebo from anywhere, all you need it a web browser and can login to your msn account.
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| #16 06:27pm 21/03/07 |
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TicMan
Posts: 1745
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Err lol, that wont stop web messenger. No s***. |
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| #17 06:28pm 21/03/07 |
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shad
Posts: 1777
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The WGR614 pretty much sucks for anything, I'd have to go with the surprise checks and beating of children approach.
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| #18 07:20pm 21/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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at work, we can't even open msn.. dunno how they do it
click on the icon it goes to load and just stops, so i use a webclient |
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| #19 07:55pm 21/03/07 |
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Fubar
Posts: 9
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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threatening them with a backhand is much more productive than trying to block all the ports.
just remember they have to belive you will give it to them. ;) |
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| #20 04:31am 22/03/07 |
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Xy
Posts: 1262
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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Belief isn't hard to achieve after a few lightning raids to catch them out and some loving physical violence to put the fear of god into them.
Make your children fear and respect you! |
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| #21 05:24am 22/03/07 |
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jmr
Posts: 4780
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The kids are already bruised, and the teachers are getting suspicious
Blocking ports 1863, 6891 - 6901, and messenger.hotmail.com stopped MSN working. Just have to keep an eye on the web based clients and block them as I come across them.. There's what meebo, iloveim, what else? Or maybe start using phonebooks or something |
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| #22 09:51am 22/03/07 |
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Cl1nt
Posts: 620
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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| #23 09:53am 22/03/07 |
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jmr
Posts: 4782
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ah ta, sif meebo isn't sex though
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| #24 09:56am 22/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4914
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well I have a list of 118 web based IM clients.
And 3426 urls that are for web based/cgi proxies that will let you get around any of those blocks. And both lists grow regularly to the point where we have kind of given up. And beyond that are several other methods... that I won't go into because the students where I work are yet to work them out. (yet) |
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| #25 01:19pm 22/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4915
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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oh and by urls some of them are *SomeLameProxiesDefaultName.cgi
or a random key phrase eg. *tunnel.com* |
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| #26 01:21pm 22/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18139
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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it sounds like i will have awesome parenting skillz
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infi
Posts: 5319
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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don't be a mean c***, let your kids use msn.
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paveway
Posts: 4730
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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whoop
Posts: 11076
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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at work, we can't even open msn.. dunno how they do it Either group policies or at highschool we had this program called handsoff that would let you block certain apps. |
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TicMan
Posts: 1751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You could grab Astaro and install the personal home edition. It has the ability to block MSN (Yahoo/ICQ/AIM/Jabber/etc) whether it's web based or client based. It can also do policy based blocking, so it's blocked between 3.30pm and 8pm but open after that, etc.
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| #31 06:28pm 22/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4917
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Stopping apps from running isn't all that successful. Workers don't have the time to find a way round it, kids most definately do.
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