What a load of bulls*** this ad is.

The entire point if the ad is to prove that speeding kills. If any of you have done a safey driving course you would know that that whole event could have been easily avoided with no injuries. Even though he was doing 10km/h over the limit, he turned OFF THE ROAD and ran into the mother and child. If he had done a saftey driving course he could have hit the car infront directly causing only car damage, possibly a write off, but at least no one would have been killed.

Things like this can be avoided by the government and DOT if they werent such money hungry f*****s. Instead of spending 2 million dollars on brand new commodores that only are only good for one thing, which is revenue rasing, they could spend the money on DRIVER TRAINING COURSES and improve the licencing system thus make it safer for experienced driveres already on the road.

It's also a known (according to wheels) that only 1 out of 10 car accidents causing injury or death are from speeding.

/rant.

Yes but it is quite simple to argue that even from the shock factor alone may save 5 peoples lives, and is therefore justified.

I love speeding debates!!

Speeding doesn't kill, s*** drivers who go faster than they can handle kill.

eos.

1/10... thats 10%
thats a f***load

the ad is for the idiots that havent done safety course and don't realise how dangerous being on the road is. its meant to make you feel like s*** so you make sure you dont be a dumbhead and kill someone

so how many accidents that don't cause injury or death are speeding related?

don't realise how dangerous being on the road is.

Well actually the ad shows thats its more dangerous to be on the footpath...

..l.,

:)

Interesting that you bring it up. I've seen that ad 3 times in the last 45 mins. They must be starting another round of it.

Do you really find it strange that they are campaigning against stupid driving practice at the time of year when there are the most accidents? Who'd a thunk it!?!?!?

well it is holidays afterall

I think the point of the ad is to show that camry's are really secret killing machines.

It's also a known (according to wheels) that only 1 out of 10 car accidents causing injury or death are from speeding.

Ahh yes, wheels magazine, the unbiased authority on motor vehicle safety. I dare say they have a vested interest in downplaying the amount of harm done by speeding, as it's a past time enjoyed by most of their readers.

i can't stand that ad, its alright first time, but after that it gives me the chills.

he turned OFF THE ROAD and ran into the mother and child. If he had done a saftey driving course he could have hit the car infront directly causing only car damage, possibly a write off, but at least no one would have been killed.

And ofcourse if a car stops suddently infront of you... are you going to just hit it.. or are you going to try and turn out of the way? natural instinct is to turn duder, i doubt the driver would have even seen the lady

probably female or asian driver

Ahh yes, wheels magazine, the unbiased authority on motor vehicle safety. I dare say they have a vested interest in downplaying the amount of harm done by speeding, as it's a past time enjoyed by most of their readers.

Wheels is by far the most unbiased - its not a hoon magazine, it reviews all cars.

are you going to just hit it

yes. They teach you this at a saftey driving course. Go and apply for one.

last edited by mkiii at 23:20:15 27/Dec/05

ok, it's not exactly 'riceboy monthly' or 'speed machine digest', but i don't think that makes it any less biased.

another thing with the ad. why didn't he just keep driving, car didn't even look that damaged, beats spending a couple of years in jail.

was just on again, who the f*** speeds up like with traffic in both lanes.. he could see what was ahead easily..

anyways it just goes to show that people who drive camry's can't drive

another thing with the ad. why didn't he just keep driving, car didn't even look that damaged, beats spending a couple of years in jail.

I believe the director may have told him to; It being an anti-speed ad and such.

That ad simply makes me change the channel. What messege is it getting across if no one can watch it?

Plus, you think it is bad now try watching it when you have kids

The baby doesn't get run over the mother dies and the baby loses it's mother don't it?

Anyway, All the ad shows is that he didn't leave sufficient stopping distance to the car in front.
It should have starred a gemini

people who think "speeding is wrong generally but i'm alert and a cool driver so it's okay for me" are f***ing pathetic

i'm young so my reactions are still sharp and i drive a high performance car, therefore i can drive 20km/h over the limit despite the laws of physics

i'm sure you'll find its old people who cause accidents

I can't believe they covered that little baby in fake blood. I bet that kid will grow up with flashbacks of blood all over it and need therapy.

The baby'll grow up to be a hard core goth

im just still shocked that they didnt use a black baby for the reenactment

If a black baby was used all you red necks wouldn't feel any remorse for speeding.

what is this TV you guys speak of?

baby 10 points,lady with pram thats a 50 point bonus

meh, it's a s*** unbelievable add.

I think that they believe those 10 % of accidents caused by speed can be avoided if people stop speeding! There is a point to the advertisement i believe, speeding is something that can be avoided easily! Don't do it.

Although i agree with an increase in driver training and maybe compulsory special courses before you are given an open licence, that is something that will help reduce the other 90 % of accidents.

But do not go around saying most accidents are not caused by speed therefore the ads are a waste of time. Ever thought maybe the ads are doing there job in the first place and that is why a reduced a number of accidents are caused by speed? The financial cost is justified.



last edited by Tiny at 19:35:47 28/Dec/05

hahah goin 10k over the speed limit doesnt cause accidents ya gotta be a fool to believe that

I dare say they have a vested interest in downplaying the amount of harm done by speeding, as it's a past time enjoyed by most of their readers.

retard.

Consider that if it were safe to go 10-20 km/h over a speed limit then they
probably would have set the speed limit to that

I'm sick of seeing young drivers tailgate and weave on busy highways because they not only think that they are safe at that speed, but that others doing the speed limit should haul arse to get out of their way

My advice, as someone who has caused a minor car accident (no injuries) is, everyone thinks he is a cool and safe driver until he has his first accident. Some morons still don't learn after even that

I've been driving at least 25000kms a year (prolly like a million this year) since 2000 and am yet to have an accident, and have frequently driven over the speed limit. It may shock you, but some drivers actually are better than others. Its not the fact that they are speeding that is bad, its a fact they a)they can't control the car (which means they shouldn't be driving at any speed) or b) they are speeding in a totally stupid situation that puts others in danger.

heh, dip a crying baby in tomato sauce and de-sensitize a nation

Luck does not make you a better driver

Some systems (such as safe road transit) simply function best when the behaviour of everyone is predictable, this may mean that some individuals may not get to their destinations a few seconds earlier but it's for the good of everyone, so suck it in.

Obviously I'm not talking about stuff like cruising a few ks over the limit on an empty highway or s*** like that

I'm not lucky, I just pay attention to whats going on around me, hence why not only have I not had an accident, but I haven't been run into by anyone else either.

"Obviously I'm not talking about stuff like cruising a few ks over the limit on an empty highway or s*** like that"


i think this is the point u still get booked for that. 10k over isnt dangerous drivin ,its just easier to fine people for it. there is some really bad drivers out there that dont look,indicate,pay attenion, and use mobile phones etc .but think they r safe drivers cause they stick to the speed limit.

if u think every1 doin the 60 instead of 70 means big reductions in road deaths your a "bloody idiot"

your 20 inch chromes give you that edge anarot

haha

because some people are s***ty drivers (don't indicate, check mirrors, etc) it is okay for you to speed?

even if you are a cautious and attentive driver, going the speed limit when everyone else is, is about suitability to the road conditions, and about each driver being able to judge his decisions based upon rightful assumptions of how all the other drivers will behave

for instance, the valuable time window between checking all of the mirrors, indicating, and changing lanes is often reduced to an unacceptably small length when some lamer is speeding down the lane you want to change into, on a winding road

"because some people are s***ty drivers (don't indicate, check mirrors, etc) it is okay for you to speed? "

its the s***ty drivers causing the accidents where r the ads for that ,instead the con job about doin 10 k over to justify speedin fines.

gotta draw the line somewhere

my point is, no one thinks he is a "s***ty driver" until he has an accident

until then, everyone is superman

last edited by Insom at 03:46:33 29/Dec/05

Every K over is a thriller.

Some cars stop fasters than others. Know how much space is required for your car to come to a emergency stop. If you know your car can't stop that fast. Don't speed in congested areas.

Accidents are just that, accidents.
Hunter is a prime example of that.

Running over a lady pushing a pram in a suburbia street is going over board imo. If some of us were faced with that situation, I'm sure we wouldn't run up a foot path with people on it. =\
It's a stupid and sensless ad.
Scare tactics FTL.

last edited by EniGma at 04:25:35 29/Dec/05

well tryin to make people who do 10k over the speed limit look like baby killers doesnt make the road safer.
i nearlly hit a lady with a pram a few yrs ago ,dumb bitch was crossing a 4 lane rd just on the other side of a hill ,i had no way of seeing her .A set of lights 100m away she was just to farken lazy to cross the road safely.but u cant fine people for stupidity ,be alot of poor people out there if we could.

Gronks

the ad is a bit tamer than those old school ads

you know, the ones showing dying car accident victims through their eyes

I think those were drink driving ads.

Driving under the influences of drugs/alcohol is different to speeding.

I just wish people wouldnt assume they are sik drivers because they have never caused an accident

Yes you are probably right that those ads were targeted at drink driving - but the end result of a speeding related crash (including as an antecedent to accidents caused by other vehicles doing the correct speed because they were taken by surprise by speeding drivers) is pretty much the same as a drink driving related one

hang on hang on... who here has had an accident? Was speeding the reason you had the accident?

Ive had an accident, I was stopped and the guy that hit me wasn't speeding...

mkiii - did anyone die in that accident?

Now count up all the accidents that really matter, where people are seriously injured or killed, and then ask if speeding had anything to do with it.

its easy to choose to go onto the foothpath rather than run up some guys arse.

basicallyu from that view he had no way of knowing ppl were on the foothpath and it was a subconcious decision that im sure most of us would make, if we were put in that position

"Now count up all the accidents that really matter, where people are seriously injured or killed, and then ask if speeding had anything to do with it."
and out of that work out how many r doin only 10k over and its not many accidents at all.

The more you go over the limit the more you are putting others' lives at risk.

i had an accident the other day

I blame dirt on the road, unfamiliarity with the area and Chris Cornell

i've given up on speeding..... except when i'm running late

edit: also cause i am on 1 point probabtion

last edited by infi at 13:27:45 29/Dec/05

i've given up on speeding..... except when i'm running late

speeding doesnt really get you there any faster you know

Short of knowing the sequence of every single traffic light and the flow of traffic between your home and your destination, chances are youll only save 5 minutes off the average cross town run. Even if you do, theres the time you take parking, getting all your s*** together and walking from the car to wherever you wanna be. No real benefit other than the good times.

imo.

i have also given up on speeding

i am also on 1 point and have been for 19 months