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Moridin
Posts: 2267
Location: Other International
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(note: ta to steve for the link if he is reading this) Love Hina would have to be my favorite anime series of all time. So when I heard it was coming to DVD in the west, I was happy. Unfortunately, its dubbed. Also unfortunately, its THE WORST DUB EVAR. And it has some big names to live up to. Appleseed's dub was atrocious. Ninja Scroll's was laughable. But that is nothing. This site has samples of all the different character voices. Lets start with the fact that they DONT EVEN f***ING PRONOUNCE THE NAMES RIGHT!! How hard is it to listen to the original japanese names and say it the same way? For gods sake! Keitaro's dub? Im not even going to go there. It is incredibly bad. Sure, he is supposed to be a bit of a loser, but that is taking to way too far. Naru sounds like a total bitch. Sure she may be a bit violent, but the voice in the japanese version was spot on. Kitsune has a f***ing southern us accent. SHE IS f***ING JAPANESE YOU MORONS! Kaolla has an idiotic cliched indian accent, even though she says on multiple occasions that she is not indian. I guess the others are sort of okay, but they are still s***house compared to the originals. Some of you may think im getting a bit anal about this. But I thought the voices in the original japanese version suited the characters from the manga absolutely perfectly! Then someone comes along and completely ruins it, and that gives me the s***s. I really dont see why they need to dub them in the first place. Oh well. |
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PeaceKeeper
Posts: 1444
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Haha, dubs were always gay. Sure some were better than others but subs are the way to go! :P |
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| #1 03:22am 21/03/02 |
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Moridin
Posts: 2271
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Exactly. Thats why im not going to buy the DVDs. Im still pissed off that they are ruining my favorite anime series of all time, but I guess I shouldnt worry, as ill always have my fansubs. I still cant beleive they made Keitaro sound like the teenage with the breaking voice off the Simpsons. Jesus. |
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| #2 03:33am 21/03/02 |
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BoBa
Posts: 164
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i love hentai tenticle love fests! |
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| #3 05:18am 21/03/02 |
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1217
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Then someone comes along and completely ruins it, and that gives me the s***s. I really dont see why they need to dub them in the first place. Oh well. Did you really expect better from American dubbers? Princess Mononoke is about the only competent dub ive ever heard come out of the states. Of course, im a try-hard purist about dubbing. I wont even listen to the dubbing in NGE, coz it just makes me want to pound nails through my dick. But I thought the voices in the original japanese version suited the characters from the manga absolutely perfectly! But Americans are too stupid/illiterate/lazy to read subs, and their "voice actors" dont seem to be able to comprehend the fact that animes are not marketed to 8 year olds, so they always do a s***house job. Thats life, you've learned your lesson, dont ever buy anything out of the US again. /end two cents. |
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| #4 07:46am 21/03/02 |
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dais
Posts: 2077
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Omg that is fuxed. |
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| #5 09:05am 21/03/02 |
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scuzzy
Posts: 2270
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Sweet jesus /me gouges eyes out with spoon. also dirty mori, do you know when LHA epp 3 comes out? i need to see it Arg! |
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| #6 09:19am 21/03/02 |
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SD Gundam
Posts: 1242
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The "Ruroni Kenshin" Dub was the worst I've seen, On rare occasions dubs are good enough to be worth watching eg "El Hazzard" and "Gun Smith Cats". "Gun Smith Cats" has the very funny line "his mom dresses him funny line" in the dub which isn't present in the sub. Oh and the "Run Lola Run" dub is f***ing awful too. |
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| #7 10:20am 21/03/02 |
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rcsgd
Posts: 785
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Run Lola Run != anime |
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| #8 10:32am 21/03/02 |
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SD Gundam
Posts: 1244
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah but you saw the dub it was awful. |
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| #9 10:38am 21/03/02 |
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Draffa
Posts: 842
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
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Are you bitching about an import or ans Australian DVD? Cause I was waiting for Spriggan and NGE: Death|Rebirth in a month of so... |
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| #10 06:56pm 21/03/02 |
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Cam
Posts: 632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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omg that is the worst ive ever heard id be cut if they did that to bebop |
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| #11 07:17pm 21/03/02 |
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AnaRoT
Posts: 6092
Location: Queensland
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Gotta hate dubbed Jackie Chan movies.... sifn't subtitles ffs. |
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| #12 11:54pm 21/03/02 |
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Moridin
Posts: 2273
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I didnt buy the DVDs. I dont know why you are telling me not to buy stuff from the US! Ill stick with the fansubs. As for the 3rd episode, should be out mid next month judging by the speed of the previous releases. Ill ICQ it when I see it around. BTW, ive heard there are only going to be 3 episodes of the OAV series, but I dont see how they can wrap up the plot from the manga in that time. Can anyone confirm how many eps there are? |
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| #13 02:10am 22/03/02 |
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Bad
Posts: 224
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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3 eps and it should be easy to sum it up from where ep 2 finished |
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| #14 07:35am 22/03/02 |
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Dogmatix Man
Posts: 513
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Oh god, that is painful. The DVD does have a Japanese voice track too, doesn't it? Doesn't it? |
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| #15 08:14am 22/03/02 |
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dais
Posts: 2096
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought Macross Plus was a pretty good dub, but I haven't seen the subbed version. |
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| #16 08:55am 22/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 80
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Even if the Love Hina had a good english Dub, I still wouldnt listen to it so it makes no difference to me. The US dvds still contain the japanese track. Oh, BTW CAM, The Cowboy Bebop Dubs are OK |
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| #17 02:22pm 22/03/02 |
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Sugoi??
Posts: 2629
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Speaking of Bebop, word is that Madman is trying to get the release rights to the series. Sorry if this is old news, but I only found out today. |
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| #18 04:09pm 22/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 81
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Speaking of Bebop, I just recently aquired the R1 Perfect Sessions Boxset :) Number 2,987 of 10,000 Let it be known that R1 dvds make madman releases look like bootlegs. Bebop |
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| #19 05:02pm 22/03/02 |
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Sugoi??
Posts: 2632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I hate you :) |
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| #20 05:06pm 22/03/02 |
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El Tosterado
Posts: 10
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I saw it comin, i so did, they always manage the spoil the best series...friggin Americans, lets see some Aussie dubs!! Struth!! |
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| #21 06:41pm 22/03/02 |
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El Tosterado
Posts: 11
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ooh, and hey spilmer where did you get that BoxSet?? I want one dammit! |
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| #22 06:43pm 22/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 82
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There are still boxsets available at Amazon.com, El Tosterado. Its a bit expensive though. I was lucky as a friend bought the set and after alot of stuffing around ended up with two, so i got one for half price. Wheeeee! You can find details here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005QCW4/qid=1016783615/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-2831239-5790328 |
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| #23 06:57pm 22/03/02 |
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El Tosterado
Posts: 12
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Awesome thanx a lot. I envy your luck dammit... hmm, what with the wierd bidding-like thing for payment?? Wait, nm i got it. Thx a again! |
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| #24 07:13pm 22/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 83
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Thants OK. Just one thing about the Love Hina Dubs however. Bandai (Who released the R1, aswell as Bebop), were not responsible for the poor dub. It was actually the japan company that was responsible for the dubs. |
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| #25 08:24pm 22/03/02 |
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EniGma
Posts: 850
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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awww man he is right.
Lain dub does suck. I have both Lain sub and dub. For some reason I just decided to watch it now. ROFL at the names. For some reason Arisu is now Alice in the dub. And Lain's dub voice is too happy at times when she is meant to be sad or whatever it is. Maybe it's just how the Jap speak...... And the sound quality in my dubs sucks compared to subs :( |
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scuzzy
Posts: 2284
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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well since the japanese language doesnt have "L" and a few other english letters, arisu sounds like a japanaese phonetically translation of "alice" actualy. similar to how the anime "FLCL" actual name is "fooly cooly" but its writen as "furi kuri" |
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[Q]
Posts: 716
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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NGE - Cause the voices were rats*** and it was such a good series that it was a shame that it was ruined by s*** dubbing. Shinji had a bad dubb what a voice... :)
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EniGma
Posts: 851
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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FINE THEN! Scuzzy always have to be right... |
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| #29 01:41am 23/03/02 |
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StreX
Posts: 1866
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i hate dubbed anime, cos i can only speak japanese.
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| #30 01:49am 23/03/02 |
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scuzzy
Posts: 2286
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i dont speak a word of english either |
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| #31 01:51am 23/03/02 |
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Moridin
Posts: 2278
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Ta for that StreX. I didnt think the eva dub was so bad, as far as dubs go. Shinji was crap, but misato was okay, asuka wasnt too bad, gendo ikari was good, fuyustski (spelling?) was good. Rei was great, but nowhere near as good as the uber-talented Megumi Hayashibara's version. Ive been downloding some of her music lately too, great stuff. About the LH DVDs, apparently at least one scene has been cut out (the bit in the first episode when Kei and Naru were running around the baths, im sure you remember it :). Also, the dialogue has been changed to be less sexual in nature, which is pretty much what the whole show is about. Goddamnit, I still cant get those f***ing ridiculous Keitaro and Mitsune dubs out of my head. I shudder to think what they are going to do to mutsumi's voice...hers was perfect :( |
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| #32 01:57am 23/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 85
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Moridin
Posts: 2280
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That was an interesting article, I never really thought about it that way. Ahh-rii-suu... |
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| #34 02:37am 23/03/02 |
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Draffa
Posts: 855
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
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Sugoi??: yes, madman have got Cowboy Beebop, as well as NGE movie, Spriggan and Armitage III. |
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EniGma
Posts: 856
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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OK OK
I get it. I lose. |
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| #36 04:06am 23/03/02 |
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El Tosterado
Posts: 14
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I got one thing to add here....the dubs on loads of anime series suck, especially LH..not suprising, altough some turn out good...but your complaining about the dubs on the dvd's so why the hell don't you just watch them with Japanese language tracks+ENG subs?? oh well I guess it IS a thread about dub-smiting...
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| #37 03:13pm 23/03/02 |
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c0rr
Posts: 570
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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im sick of hearing people complain about the dub not being like the sub maybe thats because ENGLISH ISNT JAPANESE.
gits |
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| #38 04:06pm 23/03/02 |
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Moridin
Posts: 2282
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Translation problems are nto an excuse to change the basic content of a show. I was complaining because the LH dub has dialogue changed for the sole reason of making it less sexual, and thus have a lower rating. And thats just wrong.
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| #39 02:00am 24/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 86
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Its the way of all anime dubs, stick with the original japanese dialogue and you usually wont be dissapointed.
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Hunter
Posts: 2441
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I dunno if any of you have realised or not, but all dubs, be it movie, animation or whatever, generally suck. Its a very difficult job to get it "perfect" (very subjective might I add) so I wouldn't expect them to be "perfect". What really, really, pisses me off though, is American ads that have been dubbed with Australian voices. Subtle dubbing isn't THAT bad but when it's as blatant as most ads are, I would agree. For instance, look at the latest Subway ad - JESUS CHRIST I WANT TO PUNCH THE TV. Meh I think its time I went to bed.
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| #41 05:14am 24/03/02 |
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LD99
Posts: 31
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hehe.. Love Hina is also one of my favourites. I've ordered the comic (Chinese version) online about a month ago and so hopefully it'll be here in a few weeks time. And I just managed to complete the entire set of the English version of the manga last night... so I am happy.
Don't know about the anime though... I've read something about the anime wasn't as popular as the manga and something about how the anime storyline probably will never finish so you'll have to go to the comic to get the entire storyline. Anyway, there are these two other manga called "Touch!" and "H2" by Adatsu (same author). I haven't seen the English translated version of the manga, but if you come across it, you should check it out. Bastard! is another good comic, but totally does not make sense if you have XX chromosomes or if you don't play any AD&D or other similar RPGs. :D |
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LD99
Posts: 32
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What I meant by "same author" was that "Touch!" and "H2" were by the same author, who is NOT the author of Love Hina.
Just thought I might clear that up. |
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| #43 05:33am 24/03/02 |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 81
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'd have to say the worst dubbed anime movie is AKIRA - Great movie but the dubbing is so ghey! People in Neo-Tokyo walking around with thick New York accents phooking stoopid! Hey has anyone seen "A Perfect Blue" I've been hearing alot about this movie but is it any good? Also does anyone know whether Princess Monoke is out on video yet?? |
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scuzzy
Posts: 2309
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yep, Perfect Blue is out on DVD now, i purchaed it after seeing it ages ago at a anime film festival. rather interesting plot. hard to follow at times, but eventualy makes sence
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| #45 01:38pm 24/03/02 |
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spilmer
Posts: 87
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah i got this too but its a very dissapointing transfer. It Claims to be a dual layer disc, but guess whats on the 2nd layer ? - not the movie, just previews and s***.
Transfer suffers from a poor ntsc-pal conversion also making fast scene changes and movements apprear ghosted. Terrible aliasing too. Examples: |
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dais
Posts: 2124
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwww
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BoBa
Posts: 177
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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dragonball z owns you all!
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scuzzy
Posts: 2311
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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most of the stuff from madman seams to be like that, stupid pal.
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Shotty
Posts: 2396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Would the LH DVD have the japanese track as well? If not, that would suck completely.
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