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FaceMan
Posts: 396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Credible witnesses have claimed that NASA has altered or destroyed its photos containing images of UFOs.
http://tinyurl.com/6vzkef Some of the whistleblowers are former NASA employees and contractors with inside knowledge of NASA’s operation. If NASA’s destruction of public property is confirmed, the alleged cost of McKinnon’s hacking would be insignificant compared to NASA’s annual funding of more than $17 billion. Even worse, NASA’s year 2000 mission statement boasted that it is “ethical and honest” in all that they do. Part of NASA's mission is to look for signs of intelligent life in outer space. So asking for more money to 'look', after they've already destroyed evidence that they 'found', is a not going to be easy. There's talk that McKinnon might serve up to 60-70 years in prison if found guilty. So what is the maximum sentence for NASA officials if found guilty of defrauding taxpayers? On Jan. 20, an UK judge is expected to make a final decision on McKinnon’s extradition to the U.S. That gives NASA less than one week to avoid a collision with reality. Theres some interesting claims made by credible witnesses here with the suggestion that NASA wants to keep gaining funding to search for evidence of life in Space but removing all evidence of UFOs to be able to maintain funding. OR NASA is being run with the #1 rule that all evidence of UFO's must be suppressed or funding will be withdrawn. What did McKinnon see in the files ? and why is it so important they want to jail him for 70 years ? Truth does not Fear Investigation. Why have we stopped going to the moon ? Is there something there that nobody is supposed to see ? Maybe this is why... “Sergeant Karl Wolfe was in the Air Force for 4 and 1/2 years beginning in January 1964. He had a top-secret crypto clearance and worked with the tactical air command at Langley AFB in Virginia. While working at a NSA [National Security Agency] facility he was shown photographs taken by the Lunar Orbiter of the moon that showed detailed artificial structures. These photos were taken prior to the Apollo landing in 1969. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/Alynn1130/I_Want_To_Believe.jpg |
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TicMan
Posts: 4067
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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NO WAI
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| #1 02:13pm 22/01/09 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 8681
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Why have we stopped going to the moon ? It costs too much to justify the little knowledge we'd learn from going AGAIN. But, moon missions are set to resume in the next 10 years (iirc). Is there something there that nobody is supposed to see ? Yes. The US discovered aliens with yo' momma on the dark side of the moon and want to keep it hidden. |
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| #2 02:16pm 22/01/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 2766
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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paging fpot
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| #3 02:18pm 22/01/09 |
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Dan
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Posts: 8924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha worse justification ever.
Why would NASA withholding such information be in their best financial interests? If credible evidence of life in space was revealed there's no question that they'd be the spearhead for a massive global movement with all the funding they wanted. |
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| #4 02:20pm 22/01/09 |
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paveway
Posts: 9221
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah i don't buy the whole moon theory, thats just your mind wondering too far
the other stuff is kinda cool though. |
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| #5 02:23pm 22/01/09 |
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demon
Posts: 3972
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol credible source... why did you tinyurl the url then !?? CONSPIRACY !@#!@$# :D no. coz denver ufo examiner is not a credible source :P
if your gonna start a stupid nasa conspiracy... at least choose a more modern one... like mining the moon for helium3 for fusion reactors or something. ufos are so 80s. |
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| #6 02:31pm 22/01/09 |
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Scooter
Posts: 1712
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What Dan said.
If they could prove it money would flow in. It's in their best intrest to show that there is life and more to be information gained by going further. |
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| #7 02:31pm 22/01/09 |
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Opec
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #8 02:33pm 22/01/09 |
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smashcrab
Posts: 56
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Anyone interested in structures on the moon should definately check out Richard Hoagland's research.
This interview with Project Camelot would be a good introduction.. FREE GARRY! |
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| #9 02:39pm 22/01/09 |
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demon
Posts: 3973
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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a sales plug for a tinfoilhat book & a banner ad site for hyperdimensional bulls***. AWESOME! :P FREE HAT!
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| #10 02:45pm 22/01/09 |
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trog
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Posts: 25923
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Anyone interested in structures on the moon should definately check out Richard Hoagland's research.Bad Astronomer has a section titled Hoagland's Nonsense. So I'd correct your statement to say, "anyone interested in random conspiracy theories"... and so on |
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| #11 02:49pm 22/01/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Why would NASA withholding such information be in their best financial interests? Because the people that pay NASAs bills dont want YOU to know about ...... The Visitors |
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| #12 02:59pm 22/01/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 632
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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haha worse justification ever. exactly what I thought while reading it |
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| #13 03:03pm 22/01/09 |
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WetWired
Posts: 4026
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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top-secret crypto clearance HAHAH |
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| #14 03:11pm 22/01/09 |
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darkjedi
Posts: 1535
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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http://myiq2xu.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/tin_foil_hat2.gif
Or for when you need to avoid the anal probes: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/JR_Sandy/foil04.jpg |
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| #15 03:43pm 22/01/09 |
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nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 15286
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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wait, so NASA photographed UFOs when they went to the moon, but they did it all that in a secret studio in the nevada desert.
so the fact that NASA is covering up UFOs is proof they don't exist? |
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| #16 04:06pm 22/01/09 |
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simul
Posts: 381
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If they had covered up, a much more obvious reason would be that the photos taken were of NDA US aircraft?
PS Is it just me or are all alien species (even the good guys) in movies/games built on a communist style of government / organisation? |
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| #17 04:17pm 22/01/09 |
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casa
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Posts: 3152
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol space exploration |
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| #18 05:07pm 22/01/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah because Aliens travel billion of light years across the universe (probably faster than speed of light) using alien tech space craft, yet can be captured using crappy shaky cams.... right ...
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| #19 05:31pm 22/01/09 |
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parabol
Posts: 5125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah because Aliens travel billion of light years across the universe (probably faster than speed of light) using alien tech space craft, yet can be captured using crappy shaky cams.... right ... .. and after such a journey have nothing better to do than anal-probe cows and look through people's windows, then fly off and hover for a bit. Then crash. |
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| #20 05:39pm 22/01/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5561
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Also, yeah "credible" NASA source, sure because NASA never hired a crackpot
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| #21 06:07pm 22/01/09 |
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9471
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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OK so you say they are covering s*** up. Will you concede defeat when PRIVATE space craft that can get excellent HD images of the Moon's surface do so and reveal nothing but Moon? Or will there be a new conspiracy that the Private Space craft were actually funded by Secret Demon Worshiping Alien Shape Shifting Lizards (that never gets old)? Will it ever stop? The Truth fears no investigation, true. However the coffers of those that must fund it fear finding no evidence at all. I think the later is more likely. |
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| #22 09:05pm 22/01/09 |
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JakeG
Posts: 487
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I dunno about some of the claims.. but i 'think' there have been alien 'encounters' that we have not been told about. There are too many ex military people with stories (where else is the evidence supposed to come from when everything is classified).
I feel sorry for those that think the government has been completely truthful with us. What are the implications of announcing for certain there are advanced alien species out there? I think things would get a little crazy down here. |
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| #23 11:06pm 22/01/09 |
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nF
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Posts: 15299
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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well, i feel sorry for the people so keen to disbelieve whats all around them they believe the ravings of people trying to sell books. you want to talk about agendas, why go straight for conspiracies when the obvious is staring you in the face.
why is it only ever 1 person who comes forward? an entire air force base gets swarmed by ufos disabling nukes all over the place, 60 years later one dude comes out to tell the real story in paperback. some bloke who works for nasa gets shown photos of ufos, hes the only one who comes forward. he has no photos, no proof and nobody backs him up. some 40 year old virgin hacks into nasa's (and pentagon, dod, etc) computer system, causes all sorts of dramas. he gets caught, and claims he discovered evidence UFOs, free energy and other bulls***. seriously, whats with you morons so willing to believe the words of an unknown person with a vested interest in the story they are telling? you talk about being cynical of governments as being a good thing (which it absolutely is) but you have no cynicism (or even doubt) whatsoever when it comes to a random individual whos just got a book published. you must be the same morons who send $100,000 to nigerian scammers. |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3936
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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^ jeez thats a bit harsh nef. the bit about ufo nutters being as dumb as nigerian scambait.
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| #25 12:16am 23/01/09 |
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JakeG
Posts: 488
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I agree you cant take anyones 'word' on this. Comes down to thinking about it for yourself.
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| #26 12:41am 23/01/09 |
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Templar
Posts: 6
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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It doesnt even make sense, think on it, if Nasa actually turned around and said, "We have found Intelligent Life" people would want to know as much as they can about it the world over. Nasa's funding at that point would go through the roof! |
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| #27 12:58am 23/01/09 |
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whoop
Posts: 13429
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nF is part of the conspiracy, he's trying to cover up the truth!
ms paint about aliens Saying aliens won't visit us because it's too far away is like saying Americans won't visit Australia because it's too far away in 800BC. Now we've got planes that can travel between countries in a matter of hours, who is to say aliens advanced enough won't have something that lets them travel between galaxies just as fast? I know it's science fiction bulls*** and probably not the case but there's still a whole s***load of stuff we don't know about. |
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| #28 12:59am 23/01/09 |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3937
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hmm but seriously. if hypothetically speaking there was evidence of aliens that government and nasa were keeping from the public, what would be their motivation/reasoning to keep what they have discovered a secret?
I'm sure most of us could think of a few regarding the exclusivity of alien technology. |
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| #29 01:45am 23/01/09 |
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whoop
Posts: 13431
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That or the aliens are shy and don't like all the attention?
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| #30 02:13am 23/01/09 |
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Persay
Posts: 5432
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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einstein suppressed the real speed of sound! Its actually 50x that. Here is my credible link: geocities.com
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| #31 02:24am 23/01/09 |
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Opec
Posts: 5562
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Also people think speed of light is really fast and it is for us, human. But when it comes to a cosmic scale speed of light really isn't fast enough for anything real space travel. Especially if you look at how far away everything is, even the closest next solar system to us that _could_ sustain life. You'd have to be able to travel a lot faster than that to get anywhere interesting.
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| #32 09:19am 23/01/09 |
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Scooter
Posts: 1718
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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2 Things.
New Technology. One day it migh go faster then he thought possible. Lifetimes. Ours is short. ~90 years. We could travel a lifetime and not reach another Solar system. What if 'their' lifetime was 900 years, or 9000? Also, nF's right. I do think there is life out there, there has to be, it is simply to vast for there not to be something else. What form that life is, I dont know. I dont think they've come to visit us. |
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| #33 09:33am 23/01/09 |
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nF
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Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Also, if these aliens have travelled across the galaxy and found life everywhere, then the fact that life is everywhere means that they don't think our particular brand of it is is overly special. So chances are aliens finding us would make hats from us.
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| #34 09:51am 23/01/09 |
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Chickens***
Posts: 282
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Unidentified flying objects exist.
UFO's however don't. |
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| #35 09:54am 23/01/09 |
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PornoPete
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What ever happened to the Bermuda triangle. It doesn't get the column inches it used to. But it had it all. Disappearing planes, UFO's, Harold Holt was assaulted by a seal there...
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| #36 12:33pm 25/01/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 409
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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well i remember reading that whilst a lot of disappearances happened there if you compared it with other sized areas of equal traffic it was no different in regards to accidents.
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| #37 01:46pm 25/01/09 |
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nF
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Posts: 15332
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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they probably went on the seaworld ride.
who'd want to be associated with that heap of s***. |
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| #38 02:06pm 25/01/09 |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3944
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What about 'inter-dimensional' visitors?
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| #39 02:09pm 25/01/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 410
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLT95k_hjlM&feature=related
ufo at obamas inauguration whats the code for youtube embed here ? |
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nF
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FaceMan
Posts: 411
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Its a cover-up.
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| #42 02:45pm 25/01/09 |
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9488
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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LOL, yet another fuzzy low res image of a blur. IT MUST BE A UFO ITS FUZZY!
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| #43 08:05am 26/01/09 |
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Scooter
Posts: 1719
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Obama is an Alien, they were just protecting their asset.
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| #44 09:13am 26/01/09 |
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FaceMan
Posts: 420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well theres some new controversy about how he didnt take the true oath in public and that he took the oath in an old bunker without a bible and in front of a painting of the guy that created Washington.
A Freemason. http://www.rense.com/general84/caseof.htm |
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Scooter
Posts: 1721
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You know, I think I would be happier if he did it without the Bible.
Kinda thought you would be too. |
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