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Topic: X-Men: Origins - Wolverine
3dee
Posts: 2869
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I must say, I never knew about this movie and the trailer looks f***en awesome. Glad its still got Hugh Jackman in it so it should be sweet.

HD Trailer on Rotten Tomatoes
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darkjedi
Posts: 1510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
oh nice. $10 says they still manage to bollocks it up completely.
Zylox
Posts: 783
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
at least comic to movie conversions are better than the game to movie conversions.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 15150
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
xmen 3 was complete anus
thermite
Posts: 728
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Cotton Weary!
Martz
tubby
Posts: 1763
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
xmen 3 was complete anus


yeah different director...
Fn
Posts: 5314
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
with a different anus
Sc00bs
Posts: 3409
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that looks sick
Khel
Posts: 12899
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Deadpool for the motherf***ing win
MatchFixer
Posts: 214
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That looks sick as guts!
ravn0s
Posts: 7318
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Deadpool for the motherf***ing win


hell yer!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/DeadpoolYellowBoxes.jpg
StreX
Posts: 6342
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
looks rad.

i was obsessed with wolvie from 92-95 fyi.
Auz_Guy
Posts: 101
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Good to see Gambit getting some spotlight in this one. They would only f*** up Deadpool's character if they put him in anything.
Fn
Posts: 5315
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wolverine Begins.
Nice looking forward to it.
Midda
Posts: 2964
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They would only f*** up Deadpool's character if they put him in anything.

Did you see that it's got Deadpool in it?
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just read up on the this Deadpool character. He seems cool, they better make sure he breaks the forth wall in the film a couple of times.. Otherwise the movie will be insta-fail.
DM
Posts: 786
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I was wondering who the hell that Liev Schreiber guy was playing and it didn't click until the last few seconds when you see his fangs it's like... OH, s*** how could I miss that? Trailer needs more deadpool though. 1/2 a second stupid looking clip isn't enough
Auz_Guy
Posts: 102
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yea completely missed that. It's Ryan Reynolds playing him. So where would I go to read up on this specific Deadpool character? I thought Deadpool's face was f***ed up from cancer.
ravn0s
Posts: 7321
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wikipedia
Azaria
Posts: 1030
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
woah, finally one with Gambit in it.
Midda
Posts: 2970
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So where would I go to read up on this specific Deadpool character? I thought Deadpool's face was f***ed up from cancer.


Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson / Deadpool: A wisecracking and thoroughly insane mercenary who can heal like Wolverine. Reynolds had been interested in playing the character in his own film since 2003. Computer-generated imagery is being used to create his eventually scarred visage.
DM
Posts: 787
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Computer-generated imagery is being used to create his eventually scarred visage

FFS must everything even slightly cool be done with CG now? can't they do some sort of funky ass prosthetic make up?
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3882
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
CGI is cheaper ...remember movie making is a business
Midda
Posts: 2972
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Two-Face would have had to have been done with CG, and that turned out to be amazing.
Damo
Posts: 3339
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10508/tcid/1

Extensive WOLVERINE Reshoots Are Happening
1/15/2009
Posted by Matt

Sources have informed us that Fox is conducting extensive re-shoots for "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", some or all of those re-shoots in Vancouver. And by "extensive" we're not talking about a few days of pick-ups. More curious was the studio considered bringing in a few journalists to cover these re-shoots. Now usually re-shoots such as this are done quietly. Studios don't want you to know they done f***ed up and can't get their s*** together in the editing room.

As for the production, everyone (and by "everyone", I mean the world of online film journalists) knows that Gavin Hood was not getting to make the movie he wanted while on set. There have been reports of Fox basically going around Hood and micro-managing like they always do. Example: some sets were re-painted because it's what the execs wanted, not what Hood wanted.

There have also been many leaked reports that Richard Donner was on the set in some capacity while they were filming. Some in the online world have speculated that Mr. Donner was doing more than just standing around, casting long, adoring gazes at Taylor Kitsch (although he can hardly be faulted if that was the case). We can neither confirm nor substantiate these claims about Donner since we weren't there and we don't know. But with Gavin Hood helming the re-shoots, Fox and Hood must have come to an understanding and are clearly trying to salvage one of the summer tent-poles of 2009. Let's hope that Fox is spending all this money to finally give fans the movie that they've been clamoring for.

This all leads to the big question: What the hell kind of "Wolverine" movie are they making? Is it f***ING EPIC like the trailer? Is it a softer, perhaps sillier comic book movie like "Fantastic 4"? Or is it true to the bad-ass character of the comics that fans have loved ever since he was introduced back in 1974? Fans want a dark, gritty "Wolverine" movie because that's what the character is. Those adamantium claws aren't for back scratches, they're for back impalements. If "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" is closer to the "PG" side of the tracks than the hard-"PG-13" side where fans want it, then the movie will open huge but when those other big summer releases come along, it will disappear like all off Fox's movies last year.

After 2008 and with this current "Watchmen" fiasco, Fox is in trouble. Here's a list of all the major releases from 20th Century Fox last year:

27 Dresses
Meet the Spartans
Jumper
Nim's Island
What Happens in Vegas
Deception
The Happening
Meet Dave
Space Chimps
The X-File: I Want to Believe
Babylon A.D.
City of Ember
Max Payne
Australia
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Marley & Me

Other than "Marley & Me", this is the gang that couldn't shoot straight. The quality of these films ranges from mediocre to holocaust. It is one of the worst slates in recent memory and Fox needs to do something and they need to do it with "Wolverine".

"Wolverine" is important for multiple reasons: first, if "Wolverine" doesn't go over well, then not only do sequels for that character go away, but other potential spin-offs, such as Deadpool and Gambit and other mutants, also vanish. Second, if Fox screws over a character as popular as "Wolverine", then compounded with the ill-will garnered by their behavior with "Watchmen", the geek community will have their biggest punching bag since George Lucas. Every film that tries to appeal to the coveted 18-34 male demographic will be an uphill battle in terms of marketing and getting that demo excited.

So with these re-shoots, as with any re-shoots, Fox is trying to "fix" the problem. Granted, the problem seems to be their own doing, but at least they're trying to hit the undo-button. Hence, that's why journalists might be invited to the set during the re-shoots—to show everyone how Fox is trying to make good on this movie. Fox is going to spend millions more to make the movie they were supposed to make in the first place.

Sounds great, right? Fox may have finally pulled its head out of its ass. I know I'm giving 20th Century Fox a lot of s*** but look at that list of films again. A good handful of those films aren't just bad or forgettable. They're abominations in the eyes of the Lord.

We contacted Fox before running this story to get their comments. Their response is that these shoots were always planned and are intended to capture specific weather conditions. Personally, I think it's better if they're trying to turn a corner in the way they're planning to make movies, but "weather conditions" is their official reasoning for these shoots in Vancouver.

So if Fox is turning a corner, then more power to them. I want to see a great "Wolverine" movie as much as you do. But trust isn't earned overnight and we'll keep following leads and talking to sources to see if Fox can redeem itself with this highly-anticipated movie.
Creepy
Posts: 1178
Location: USA
Richard Donner knows all about movie execs f***ing with a comic book movie..
predat0r
Posts: 393
Location: Germany
So the Watchmen movie is meant to be crap as well? Or a Fiasco?

The trailer looked pretty cool, haven't read the book though...
Damo
Posts: 3342
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
watchmen is turning into a fiasco..I've never heard of the book until trailer was released, but makes me want to read it now.
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm reading it now (Watchmen) and its unlike any graphic novel I've ever read. I can see why people like it so much or at least respect it.

Thats the problem right there, I don't think Fox respects anything other than the bottom line.
Sc00bs
Posts: 3465
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** all u haters that think watchmen will b s***, it looks f***in awesome from the trailer.


last edited by Sc00bs at 15:08:10 18/Jan/09
3dee
Posts: 2957
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah I agree that looks f***ing awesome.

Also, Muse ftw.
Khel
Posts: 12935
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Its not that Watchmen is going to be s***, its not even made by Fox, its made by Warner Brothers. The Fox references to Watchmen are about all the legal battles going on atm, where Fox are claiming they still own the rights to it, and are standing in the way of Warner Brothers releasing the film, thats where all the Watchmen related Fox hate comes from.
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3926
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think we all understand that WB has made the Watchmen movie.

Fox is simply trying to get the cold hard $.

Fox have realized that WB has a good movie which has the potential to make money which is something they can't seem to do of late.

They just want a cut of the pie. If it means interfering and slowing down the release date, then so be it. Thats the way they are thinking imo.

I know Alan Moore is an eccentric, cranky old bugger but after reading about all this crap surrounding the Watchmen movie I can understand why he wants to distance himself so much from the movie business.
Trin
Posts: 2599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cant wait to see both these movies!
ravn0s
Posts: 7371
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/wolverinegroup.jpg
Creepy
Posts: 1180
Location: USA
I know Alan Moore is an eccentric, cranky old bugger but after reading about all this crap surrounding the Watchmen movie I can understand why he wants to distance himself so much from the movie business.


Alan Moore doesn't like *ANY* of the adaptations of his creations. He's rubbished them all.
Sc00bs
Posts: 3468
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
tracks than the hard-"PG-13"

f*** hard pg13. M or MA ftw!
Damo
Posts: 3535
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just got back from cinemas seeing this.

Same movie as everyone saw before it was released. There is no 14minutes of extra movie. Only extra bits is like 1min worth just after credits start and at very end of the credits.

Some of the special effects are truely shocking..Still looks very fake.
demon
Posts: 4281
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
alan moore is fkn kook! :P i watched an autobiography dvd on him a while back... total goth nutter.

sad news about the new movie being crap in the special effect dept... i liked the original xmen movie, thought #2 was a bit crap coz they killed off jean grey & #3 was total bollox imo.

i still haven't seen watchmen yet but i'm hoping i'll like it.
Jim
Posts: 9608
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
saw this last night, wasn't too bad
I liked the intro/credits, thought that was cool
Midda
Posts: 3509
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Holy s***, I can't believe how badly they f***ed Deadpool. He started off absolutely awesome, but later... Words escape me.
partyhat
Posts: 1187
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hey midda, I assume you saw this at Imax Southbank, and was the new Transformers trailer attached to it?
This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZX34mhSR4
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9635
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Does Deadpool break the 4th wall in the movie? Because if he doesn't they failed his character.
DM
Posts: 939
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Does Deadpool break the 4th wall in the movie? Because if he doesn't they failed his character.

Not only does he NOT do this, but he only has around 1 minute of speaking time, then they turn him into a mute, braka-esque (think MK2) super mutant with dozens of abilities. Just fail.
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16420
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
The movie started off looking very cool then it turned into a big pile of fail. The way Logan lost his memory was absolutely retarded as well. Can't believe that's the best idea they could come up with.
Khel
Posts: 13301
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah, Deadpool at the end of the movie wasn't Deadpool. It was some weird, spastic idea birthed out of the mind of a hack script writer who decided he wanted to rape, and then s*** on the character.

I guess overall, I didn't hate the movie, but it was pretty average, and most of the best action scenes were already spoiled in the trailers. It was strangely paced too, it was paced a bit too slow for the action movie I was expecting it to be, yet it wasn't really written well enough to pull off the drama they were going for.
ravn0s
Posts: 7669
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they can always explain away the multi-powered "deadpool" as a clone.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 9636
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
OMG, one of the hall-marks of Deadpool was frequently breaking the 4th wall and knowing that he was in a comic book.

I guess the character was just too far advanced for the puny minds that make up the majority of Hollywood script writers.

They probably attempted to write a script that sticks to the character, but when they began to write a line that spoke directly to the audience their head exploded. No other writer was willing to give it a try, it was probably the blood and brains that scared them.
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 4241
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Can someone explain the 4th wall in regards to the X-Men Universe?
Khel
Posts: 13302
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
The 4th wall isn't like an actual thing, its just a figure of speech used to describe a character that knows its a fictional character. Like if a character knows its in a comic book, or knows its in a movie, or a tv show, or whatever.
Midda
Posts: 3512
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, for example, when a character in a show/book/whatever addresses the audience, that's what's referred to as breaking the fourth wall.

Some examples of Deadpool breaking the fourth wall are things like this and this.
ravn0s
Posts: 7670
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
4th wall is just a meta-reference
DM
Posts: 940
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Peter does this in the new family guy episode. He lays on top of Connie (don't know if thats how you spell or name or anything) and after a second turns to "us" and says, What are you looking at? It's a cartoon.

Nothing like that in this movie
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