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Topic: do you run a SSD?
koopz
Posts: 7276
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is *shamelessly stolen from slashdot*, yet still worth the question..

gawd.. if there was an easy way to do one of those 'vote for you choice' thingies that some sites have I would do one.


anyways... do you have an SSD hard drive, or plan to get one next year?
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25630
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

No, but I'm looking at ultraportables with them (like the eeepc). At this stage its not a huuuuuuuge factor in my purchasing because regular HDDs still look like better value (in sheer terms of bucks per meg). One thing I do like about them though is they're so quite - my parents eeepc is baisically completely soundless. It's almost eerie using a computer that doesn't make any noise.
scuzzy
Posts: 13177
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm still content with the performance of a good raid array :3
StopShootingMe
Posts: 2915
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Give it a few years and no unpleasant surprises with their reliability (as yet not really tested on a large scale) and I would say yes I will.

But have you seen how cheap HDDs are ATM? Like $250 for 1.5TB. No way would I go SSD for now.
shad
Posts: 2482
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If I was building an new PC then I might consider an SSD for the OS and anything that I might want to quickly pull data from (Apps/Games). I'd still use a HDD for storage and backup.
Spook
Posts: 23681
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
obviously this is the future, we're just not quite there yet
Pinky
Posts: 159
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Ok, digression on similar subject: what about fast HDDs like for film editing and stuff? The 70k drives, Raptors and so on.
Skitza
Posts: 8568
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yes..in my eeepc :)
Fish
Posts: 2670
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm currently using a CF card with an IDE adaptor as a SSD for my fileserver while all the sata drives are in a zfs pool.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25631
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm currently using a CF card with an IDE adaptor as a SSD for my fileserver while all the sata drives are in a zfs pool.

sweet, what OS are you running ZFS on?
Zylox
Posts: 779
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Lets just hope they are nothing like them USB pendisks which cannot be read at the best of times.


I was going to make these at one stage utilising a couple of 64GB sd cards or similar as a boot drive. Seen comparison machines on youtube showing how much faster these ssd are at boot up...
MrHardware
Posts: 4079
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no, but i'm thinking about it in some way shape or form.
just picked up 4x750gb drives for the raid array i'm gonna build, still a little sketchy on what i'm going to do there, but that'll be the basis.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 15099
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
how good are current SSD drives for paging? you used to have to lower swap affinities and s*** whenever you ran one. are they better now?
step
Posts: 1646
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Do plan to get one next year - waiting for the Intel drives.
tequila
Posts: 436
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
we're getting some 60gb~ SSD test units from HP this week actually, going into a few blades we use to process hundreds of thousands of rrd files for graphing purposes

problem with SSD is they're either good at reading or good at writing, not both
currently we're using multiple servers with ram disks but its just not a viable solution long term
step
Posts: 1647
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
problem with SSD is they're either good at reading or good at writing, not both
The Intel and OCZ v3 models have some impressive numbers for both.
tequila
Posts: 441
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
at the same time ?
eXemplar
Posts: 2202
Location:
The 70k drives

Man, where do you shop, I need to get some of these drives that break the speed of sound.
whoop
Posts: 13203
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

OCZ 120G SATA2 Core V2 SSDHD $500.00
Western Digital 1TB SATAII 32M 3GB/s(WD1001FALS) $199.00

Until they come way down in price I'm sticking to SATA. I don't need ultra fast performance badly enough.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 15107
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
at the same time ?


is sata/pata even full duplex? i doubt it.
Scorp
Posts: 226
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I sure hope anyone thinking of using SSD's in their home computers have a decent UPS powering their computer.

I also hope anyone thinking of using them in servers look at the massive costs, limited write cycles and the inability to handle power loss very well.

Like virtualisation alot of people want to play with it to try and get in some toy playtime and experience but don't do correct cost analysis and end up blowing alot of their budget away that would have been better spent on already established / tried and tested technologies / implementations.

SSD from my personal corporate experienced has quite a mile to go before it can come close to replacing the robust SAS drives we see in todays environments. I find the vast majority of people recommending it haven't actually used it in either a high end gaming rig or corporate environment yet and although there is quite a few drives coming out with some decent benchmarks now the life cycles and power loss / crash recovery / error count i very rarely see along with these benches.
Fish
Posts: 2671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sweet, what OS are you running ZFS on?

OpenSolaris.
And I blame you trog for suggesting it in the last thread about home/file servers :)
plok
Posts: 445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have one of the Intel X25-E 32G SSD's in my workstation at work.

Very expensive for 32G (around £500 or so) but link times for the apps I'm building have more than halved (2 minutes to ~50 seconds for the app I've been working on the most recently).

Very promising read results for SQL Server too compared to the HDD.

I've yet to measure the impact on write speed for lots of random writes (I'm mostly interested in latency rather than total throughput) but I'll have a play over x-mas when it's quiet in the office.
Jim
Posts: 8999
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
oh sweet, I've been reading about that one - keen to hear how it goes. even if you take the stats that intel are quoting on it with a bunch of salt, they are still very positive - in terms of both write speeds as well as lifetime.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15931

HerbalLizard
Posts: 3083
Location: Queenstown, New Zealand
Sorry to drag up an old thread but is anyone here using any of the Adata 300 series SSD's

I installed one of my older test machines xp-pro32 to see what the performance is like on older hardware, which it was really f***ing quick but after installing sp3 i noticed that there seemed to be slight lags when accessing the start menu when prior to sp2's install it was fine.

Will be trying 2 x 32 raid 0 on my win7 64 test bed later next week. But has anyone else had any lag issues
Red
Posts: 234
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I sure hope anyone thinking of using SSD's in their home computers have a decent UPS powering their computer.


I also hope anyone thinking of using them in servers look at the massive costs, limited write cycles and the inability to handle power loss very well.


limited write cycles? Is 50 years not long enough?

As for inability to handle power loss, My friend runs an SSD as his boot disk, and he's forever cutting the power (like, pulling the power cable out of the PSU/holding down power button) when testing hardware with no ill effect.
Raven
Posts: 3457
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I've been looking at what to replace my current drives with lately - currently have a 320GB Barracuda ES (~80MB/s avg) and a 250GB 7200.10 (~70MB/).
For a boot drive the options are basically either a cheap SSD (which it seems are crap) or a hot noisy VelociRaptor.
For storage it'll be a 1TB of some form, but these days we have so many options (Green/Blue/Black).
tequila
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
we tried the HP units a few weeks ago, they were actually slower for what we were doing
processing tens of thousands of rrd updates & reads every 5 minutes across a linux cluster
boba
Cainer
Posts: 3329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have a 32gb ocz core2 series in my media pc and it's tops, pc boots sooo fast
Ross
Posts: 2031
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I used SSD's before they where cool!
Raven
Posts: 3459
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Hey, I've noticed most SSDs are 2.5" - do they typically come with brackets for 3.5" mounting, or do you need to buy them separately?
koopz
Posts: 7540
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they don't come with brackets..

good pc stores will just give ya one
tension
Posts: 7007
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I purchased an OCZ Core Series 128GB (the original one) about 6 months ago and its been ok really fast reads but quite slow writes, its practially grinds to a halt when there are many small files to be written and when I try to watch HD Video i get all sorts of stutter.

I've just ordered one of the new OCZ Vertex series which comes with 64mb cache to replace the Core Series, from all the reviews it will definately be a lot better.
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