ok, theres been some spirited talk in my office lately on various subjects:

i think im right on all of them, and im yet to be proved wrong:

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?

no, of course you cant.

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

you are an idiot if you believe this, i always go out of my way to make coffees with hotwater first for idiots that claim "it ruins the coffee"

and a new contender

3) different colour m&ms taste different

no they dont

are you right or wrong?

1) I agree

2) I don't drink coffee, so I'm not sure, but I see no reason why the order would make a difference

3) I usually eat m&ms a few at a time, so it's not something I've ever really considered.

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

It does taste different if you put the milk in first - it tastes worse. If you put the milk in first it makes the coffee/sugar clump together and not dissolve properly, and makes the coffee taste like s*** (well even more s*** than an instant coffee tastes already)

4) Should you be allowed to use ipods in class, if not why?

This post isn't an ad or anything, lulz

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1) on lower quality MP3s (128kbps or below) using ear-bud headphones you can hear the compression.
2) instant coffee can not be made any better. its like trying to polish a turd
3) they the all taste the same.

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?

If it's a 128kbps mp3, many people can. Once you hit 192kbps, I bet you even the most lunatic audiophiles will screw up in a blind (deaf?) test.

If it's a 128kbps mp3, many people can. Once you hit 192kbps, I bet you even the most lunatic audiophiles will screw up in a blind (deaf?) test.

I'm no audiophile and I can definitely tell the diff between CD and 192CBR. 320 though, not a chance. lame V2 is the sweet spot for size vs quality that normal people can't differentiate imo.

specially with some types of music compared to others, and with high quality gear

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?

yea you can...

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

ok your kinda correct in that instant coffee is fairly poor tasting. However you can make bad coffee taste even worse by pouring boiling hot water straight on the coffee. you burn the coffee and you can taste that.

3) different colour m&ms taste different

they are def all the same!

Yeah about 96 degrees is death zone for instant IIRC

If you drink instant though you are a twit and should be killed anyway

no strik3r, nooooooo!!!!!

1 out of 3 is teh failz

In all my years of making instant coffee I have never 'burnt' it with boiling water.

In all my years of concocting instant coffee, I never encountered a way of making it taste less s*** :(

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

I guarantee that I can tell the difference with this. I always put the milk in first. As mentioned, it burns the coffee if you don't.

The other two I agree with, although the MP3 one would depend on the quality of the MP3. M&Ms tasting different? Puhlease!

1) I can't tell the difference between a very good, high kbps encode and a cd
2) Don't drink coffee, no idea
3) I think they might, i'd have to sample to check.

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?

no, of course you cant.

Of course you can, see you failed to qualify that by stating the quality of the mp3. If I give you 32k mono mp3 done using recording a cd source via analogue then converted that mp3... I'd even say you can tell on a 128k CBR mp3 on music that has a large dynamic range (eg. Floyd).

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

you are an idiot if you believe this, i always go out of my way to make coffees with hotwater first for idiots that claim "it ruins the coffee"

and a new contender

It may be possible, if the water was so hot as to burn the milk, and putting it in the cup lets it cool enough to not burn the milk. But still unlikely. Maybe someone with supermans pallete could tell the difference.

3) different colour m&ms taste different

no they dont

No idea, it all depends on whether the food dyes have a descernable flavour or not. Along with the pallete of the eater. ie. a smoker prolly can't tell the difference between a roo pellet and an m&m.

1) You can but only depending on the quality of the ripped MP3s
2) Wouldn't make any different, instant coffee is s*** anyway.
3) Agreed.

1. Depends on the quality of the Rip.
2. Coffee tasts bad no matter which way you make it
3. All taste the same.

I have heard about 2) in the context of tea as well. I tend to alternate doing it with my tea depending on what is the optimal creation procedure (eg sometimes its more efficient to put milk in first because the milk is already out). I don't notice any difference in quality either way.

I have heard about 2) in the context of tea as well. I tend to alternate doing it with my tea depending on what is the optimal creation procedure (eg sometimes its more efficient to put milk in first because the milk is already out). I don't notice any difference in quality either way.

Who puts milk in tea anyway?

Black and no sugar is the only way.

1) yeh you can, especially on a big phat system.
2) dunno, don't care.
3) dunno, don't care.

1) Depends on the audio being converted. I myself can't tell the difference, however someone that I know who has excellent ears has passed the blind test easily at 128kbs.

2) It depends on the heat of the hot water.

3) Different colour m&m's taste the same, unless you have some sort of Synesthesia and can taste colours. Also your perception of what you are eating has an impact on its taste, so if people really believe they taste different they just may to them.

1) yeah on good system
2) dont drink coffee
3) the only reason they think that is from the placebo effect of eating a "red" m&m, i saw some show they did a test with ppl who thought they could taste the diff.. blind folded them and gave them one at a time, they were all s*** and got none right

Black and no sugar is the only way.

While basejumping to work right ?

Tea is alot more sensitive, purist tea drinkers say like 80-85 I think

1) Depends on bitrate and speaker/headphone quality. I can pick it with my Bose Quiet Comforts headphones

2) Instant coffee is s***, no matter what order you make it in

3) All the same

While basejumping to work right?

He doesn't work remember, well for most of the year at least.

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?
No

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first
No

3) different colour m&ms taste different
Possibly, try eating a handful of one color
wash your pallet then eat a handful of another color - results??

So, I says, blue M&M, red M&M, they all wind up the same color in the
end.
-- Homer's answers to life's greatest mysteries, "The Springfield Files"

Instant coffee is roasted at around 165C, I doubt boiling hot water would burn it. I've always thought that you need to make a slush of coffee and then add the milk.

and on the topic of instant coffee tasting s*** I think its pretty damn good.

1 yes you can.. just not $2 headphone or speakers

2) making an instant coffee, it tastes different if you put the milk in first

no, just no.

If it's a 128kbps mp3, many people can. Once you hit 192kbps, I bet you even the most lunatic audiophiles will screw up in a blind (deaf?) test.

Depends on the quality of the stereo equipment, I can tell the difference between 192 and 320 in my car easily...

I think that the coffee thing is because if you put milk in first you tend to put more in. This naturally makes the nasty instant coffee less bitey.

haha

if you can't tell the dif between CD and MP3 time to buy new headphones.

giririsss
, please come to my work with your headphone so i can make yuo look the goose

denver, please come back to work and bring your special coffee that is not hot water resistant

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the best one we had was, what would win in a fight between a bear and a bull?

occasionally an mp3's rendering of cymbals will s*** me

but yeah bitrate is king. oh and in the early days of mp3s the encoders were probably crapper than they are now

1) mp3s vs cds, can you tell the difference just by listening?

on a decent system or headphones you can unless the mp3 is 320kbs. 320kbs, vinyl and cd all sound pretty much the same unless you have that freaky condition where you can see sound as colours or you're listening on the worlds best sound system or something.

giririsss
, please come to my work with your headphone so i can make yuo look the goose

denver, please come back to work and bring your special coffee that is not hot water resistant

You're the lame duck, you go find the proof.

2) I'm personally a fan of the milk in first proceedure, you'll find the coffee to be a little more bitter than usual if you pour boiling water in first. Personal choice though, i am quite addicted to coffee atm and have been drinking tea to substitute lately..

Trog:- If you want to taste your tea properly u should definately put boiling water in first.. and let it perculate for a good few minutes.

Addition of milk prevents vascular protective effects of tea

Conclusion Milk counteracts the favourable health effects of tea on vascular function.

:D