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Topic: Man shot dead by air marshall
fpot
Posts: 12287
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17502305-2,00.html
The man, identified as Rigoberto Alcazar, 44, boarded the Orlando-bound plane in Miami, and once aboard, indicated he had a bomb, Mr Bauer said.
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Spook
Posts: 15268
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
bipolarness strikes again!
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Posts: 505
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"There were no explosives," he said after the dead man's backpack was detonated shortly after the shooting


Except for the exploding backpack that is.
fpot
Posts: 12288
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I assume it was detonated by them, much like that chinese guy's backpack.
Makaveli
Posts: 2157
Location: USA
yeah he was a mental patient.. Lol

seen it on cnn today
ctd
Posts: 4273
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Haha go bauer, what a cainer.
ravn0s
Posts: 3665
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
jacks back woot
eK
Posts: 9602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jack Bauer Power hour!
phatmike
Posts: 393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
24 ftw

starts january 15.

woo :D
Merlyn
Posts: 517
Location: Other International
Great, just what i need when i am about to start a 3 day flight trip back to australia... air paranoia.
darius
Posts: 614
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
just dont fly through the US and she'll be right
Merlyn
Posts: 518
Location: Other International
Not going anywhere near the U.S. but this type of thing makes all airports in the world a little "edgy" and slows procedures up no-end.
Insom
Posts: 449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hah

way to get yourself shot and your luggage blown sky high

if you have bipolar disorder or something that might lead you to make bomb threats, stay on your drugs
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 1057
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I heard that the man's wife was running along behind him screaming "he's mentally ill" etc... So the americans pump him full of lead...
taggs
Posts: 544
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
As they damn well should have imo. The twat was running from the plane, and yelling he had a bomb. It doesn't matter his wife was yelling he was mentally ill, the marshals would have had to make a decision in a split second: whether to gamble the safety of everyone on board and not shoot - or kill him to neutralise the threat. I think the marshals made the right decision. Would suck to be a marshal if they thought he was a crazy twat but he turns around and kills innocent people. They have to take all the threats seriously cause even though that crazy dude probably didn't deserve to die, the random bystanders don't deserve it either.

last edited by taggs at 01:58:51 09/Dec/05
ravn0s
Posts: 3668
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i dont understand why they just dont use taser guns. they will neutralise the "threat", but also keep the people alive.
ctd
Posts: 4276
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I heard that the man's wife was running along behind him screaming "he's mentally ill" etc... So the americans pump him full of lead...

Then he should have taken his pills or taken the bus.
Khel
Posts: 11021
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Did anyone else hear the report on the radio this morning where they were making out like it was un-necessary force because the plane was still on the runway and hadn't taken off yet? That made no sense to me, are bomb threats less important if the plane isn't in the air of something? Is it less of a disaster if a few hundred people blow up on the runway instead of while in flight? Crazy!
fpot
Posts: 12293
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
He wasn't in the plane when he was shot, he was on the runway running towards the terminal.
Astroboy
Posts: 3155
Location: Germany
Great, just what i need when i am about to start a 3 day flight trip back to australia... air paranoia.

So you are worried about sitting next to a mentally ill person? I dont get it
Insom
Posts: 452
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I heard that the man's wife was running along behind him screaming "he's mentally ill" etc


she was on a treadmill
Tuco
Posts: 750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^ gold
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 7063
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i dont understand why they just dont use taser guns. they will neutralise the "threat", but also keep the people alive.


Most of the time..
ravn0s
Posts: 3671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Did anyone else hear the report on the radio this morning where they were making out like it was un-necessary force because the plane was still on the runway and hadn't taken off yet? That made no sense to me, are bomb threats less important if the plane isn't in the air of something? Is it less of a disaster if a few hundred people blow up on the runway instead of while in flight? Crazy!


planes fall when they are blown up. ppl on ground go squeeshie
Khel
Posts: 11023
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
He wasn't in the plane when he was shot, he was on the runway running towards the terminal.

Ah ok, the report I heard made it sound like he was running down the inside of the plane.

Either way, still not like the marshalls had much of a choice, if he ran inside and blew up the terminal I'm sure it still wouldn't be a good thing.
d[o_0]b
Posts: 568
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
god, that poor woman =(
gimpy
Posts: 586
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'd say she'll end up rich now! Hope they had life insurance.
Fish
Posts: 1874
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** life insurance, sue the government for lots of phat loot
Khel
Posts: 11024
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Yeah, sue the Government because a guy with mental illness didn't take his medication. Don't take responsibility or nothing, just blame everyone else. Its not the unmedicated crazy guy's fault, its the air marshalls' fault because they wanted to save innocent people from being blown up! Of course, I see it now! Damn those air marshalls.

Geez, what next? People suing McDonalds because they ate too much junk and got fat? Oh yeah...
fallenmessiah
Posts: 69
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They didnt shoot until he reached into his bag
typo
Posts: 4587
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

i dont understand why they just dont use taser guns. they will neutralise the "threat", but also keep the people alive


Tasers have amazingly short range, are pretty lame if the person is wearing thick clothes or some sort of body armour, have a very small shot capacity and you have very little options if something goes wrong. Tradition guns on the other hand are much more effective in all of these cases.

In sort, tazers are for pussies. Guns are for men.

I heard that the man's wife was running along behind him screaming "he's mentally ill" etc


While he was screaming "I have a bomb in my bag and I am going to set it off!" then he starts reaching inside his bag. Imagine the f***fest that would have happened if the air marshall didn't shoot him and he really did have a bomb?

Psycho!
Posts: 5361
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Excellent work by the air marshalls. Do you know how hard it is to hit something that is moving let alone accurately in a crowded environment? I wouldnt like to try that's for sure. They must have been awesome shots.

Also bombs going off anywhere near avgas is a no-no...big boom.

Also this might be a deterrent those f***nuts that are full of piss and 'joke' they have a bomb in their bag ect...on planes. The sister in law use to fly for Qantas for years and she tells me the number of times c*******s made that joke was ridiculous.



last edited by Psycho! at 10:05:44 10/Dec/05
Reverend Evil
Posts: 13009
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Hehe

I don't think I've ever seen you swear before, Psycho. Is everything ok? Wanna talk about it?

8-)
Psycho!
Posts: 5363
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't think I've ever seen you swear before, Psycho. Is everything ok? Wanna talk about it?


hehe I do swear, too much my wife reckons. I guess I just need a hug.

:P
fpot
Posts: 12295
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
bomb never mentioned?
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