No doubt most people have read this over at whirlpool but I thought it may be worthy of discussion here.

Exetel has announced that on November 1st it will offer a 1.5Mbit/s ADSL plan with 500MB usage for $25, a price point that could create a major new flurry of competition in the broadband industry.

It's also only $3/GB extra. Unfortunately it will only be available in NSW but it won't take long for national ISPs to release competing plans.

The real item of note however is the rumour that Telstra will shortly drop it's slower adsl speeds of 256 and 512 and cancel the $80 line activation fee which might be targeted to bring it closer in comparitive pricing with cable.

After the last round of price drops I considered upgading to 1.5mbit but decided to stick with a larger download allowance, now that I may not have the choice I will be intereted to see how the new plans turn out.

What are you going to do with 500 meg?? Its useless... for everyone.

Thats good news, ive been meaning to upgrade to 1.5mb

Learn to read, he also said it's $3 per extra GB, which is pretty darn cheap.

What are you going to do with 500 meg?? Its useless... for everyone.

Well since 3 gig is all you will ever need, it would only cost you $32 on that plan.

That plan is only the starting plan, they will likely announce other 1.5mbit plans with higher usage limits. I would expect to see a 30+ gig plan for around $60 going by the current market.

Who are Exetel?

i'm with them. best ISP ever. fast, cheap and great service. unfortunately for you lot, they are only in NSW at the moment.

Fortunately people on cable dont give a f***

^ amen

your mum gave a f***, last night. OH!

i can't see this converting into any relief for cable customers. anything is possible i suppose.

There's also talk that Telstra will release full speed plans, which means 8mbit ADSL. ADSL 2 should be approved soon which basically allows for further distances from an exchange. Hopefully ADSL 2.5 is also approved which alows for speeds of upto 25mbit.

Yeah, but how many phone lines are actually going to be able to deliver that? Theres people at the moment who have enough trouble getting 512k or 1.5mbit to work well over their lines, how is 8mbit or 24mbit supposed to be possible?

Its possible in countries where the copper system wasnt neglected for years.

Telsra Man: Oh, Ziggy... we just realised that those copper phone lines we own are going to become real important when ADSL gets big.

Ziggy: Oh f***, Heh, Well, we own them all anyway, so its not like anyone else will take our business away from us.

Yeah, but how many phone lines are actually going to be able to deliver that? Theres people at the moment who have enough trouble getting 512k or 1.5mbit to work well over their lines, how is 8mbit or 24mbit supposed to be possible?

All that can get ADSL now + some that are currently deemed to far from the exchange. ADSL 2 extends the signal through better modulation and allows for upto 12mbit D/L while ADSL 2+/2.5 uses more spectrum doubling the download rate but you have to be within 1.5km from the exchange. SO everyone will be benefited by ADSL2 and those that live close enough to an exchange will benefit from ADSL2+.

while ADSL 2+/2.5 uses more spectrum doubling the download rate but you have to be within 1.5km from the exchange.

I'm 1 kilometre from my exchange and my Internode 1.5 m connection works superb. The wife cant figure out why I never want to sell our house. :) Bring on ADSL2!

$3/GB... thats pretty sweet. So $85/month to bring it up to the 20GB equivelant you get on Optus - and you pay less if you don't use as much.

I'm 1 kilometre from my exchange and my Internode 1.5 m connection works superb.

ping times to www.news.com.au please :)

i get 15-20gb a month off telstra cable, and it's a nice clean connection that doesn't play up a whole lot

especially a whole lot less problems since i moved, so this news doesn't really rock my boat

maybe if it makes my cable bill 10 bucks cheaper a month....

Well since 3 gig is all you will ever need, it would only cost you $32 on that plan.

That's what we in the industry like to call "minimal usage"

What are you going to do with 500 meg?? Its useless... for everyone.

Far from it; my grandfather rarely uses more than 200mb a month.

I'm 1 kilometre from my exchange and my Internode 1.5 m connection works superb.

ping times to www.news.com.au please :)

i get avg 50ms from cns on my 1500/256 on TPG 20gig 49/month

in 5 monhts i'll change if its cheaper somewhere

i'm on a 400mb plan here and I only go over it near the end of the month usually.

ping times to www.news.com.au please :)

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C:\Documents and Settings\Psycho>ping www.news.com.au

Pinging a1273.g.akamai.net [210.9.72.177] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 210.9.72.177: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 210.9.72.177: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=58
Reply from 210.9.72.177: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=58
Reply from 210.9.72.177: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 210.9.72.177:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 28ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Psycho>

I guess an average of 28ms is good then?

:P

get 15-20gb a month off telstra cable, and it's a nice clean connection that doesn't play up a whole lot

same here. cable for me has been grand.

What are you going to do with 500 meg?? Its useless... for everyone.

meh, ive got unlimted dl's and i reckon id only use 500mb a month (unless a service pack comes out)

C:\Documents and Settings\Alex>ping www.news.com.au

Pinging a1273.g.akamai.net [61.9.209.150] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 61.9.209.150: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.150: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.150: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.150: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61

Ping statistics for 61.9.209.150:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 10ms, Average = 9ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Alex>

My Connection is Slaw

Far from it; my grandfather rarely uses more than 200mb a month.

Now doubt an avid warcraft 3 player, it uses extreemly small amounts of bandwitdh. The lower latency a 1.5mbit connection offers would help a lot, and IIRC this particular ISP has great links to both Asia and America.

Is this the ISP that got started by the same guys who started Swiftel?

You sure do love talking about low latency links to Asia!

C:\>ping www.news.com.au

Pinging a1273.g.akamai.net [61.9.209.159] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61

Ping statistics for 61.9.209.159:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 10ms, Average = 9ms

akamai, no wonder.

Phsyco thats an awesum ping for adsl, considering your on a diff isp to the server as :well: as adsl.

im on telstra cable which news.com.au is hosted on so pretty quick for us.

C:\Documents and Settings\Nuklehead>ping www.news.com.au

Pinging a1273.g.akamai.net [61.9.209.159] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61
Reply from 61.9.209.159: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=61

Ping statistics for 61.9.209.159:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 9ms

edit:edited my retardedness

last edited by Fuknukle at 10:48:56 29/Oct/04

Phsyco thats an awesum ping for adsl, considering your on a diff isp to the server as was as adsl.

Yup, Internode rocks.

The truth is, all you ADSL tards have nowhere near as good connections as us cable folk.

So, why dont you all just get cable and stop crying.

ADSL is more likely to be available (a big factor if your moving), has a better range of providers with far better plans (you can't get unlimited cable, s***ty contract lengths etc), also cable can get overloaded depending on the usage of your area.

i probably would get cable if not for the long contracts, also pingwise i really dont see a difference between them two, i would only get it for speed

ffs, can't people get over whinging about the long contracts of cable plans, OMG 1 yr is too long. GET OVER IT. and i'm sure this will happen: I'm not going to be on the internet in a year so i'm not going to sign up.

stop making excuses to not go for cable. I'm sure if you move house the next people will want cable aswell so transfer it into their name. probably not that easy for the renters amongst you but meh.

I'd go for cable if it was in my area, alas I've only got one decent option in ADSL. 1 year is a long time, but prices are always falling, so I doubt you'd be worse off in a years time.

last edited by Se7eN at 20:22:44 29/Oct/04

benneth, you are an idiot, that is all

ffs, can't people get over whinging about the long contracts of cable plans, OMG 1 yr is too long. GET OVER IT.

That's just the sort of obsequious attitude that gets you poor bastards chained to a contract and put over a barrel. If you weren't so quick to "get over it", the telcos would do what they did with adsl, and offer more competitive terms. Look at you try and push your servility upon others, it's disgusting.

i'm with them. best ISP ever. fast, cheap and great service. unfortunately for you lot, they are only in NSW at the moment.

New ISPs are always like that ... lets see what happens when they reach 60% utilization at peak ...