ok, just got out of seeing this movie, and i thought it was great.

it wasn't a "oh, the world is going to end, let's upload a virus into the mothership" kind of america saves the day. no, america got themselves an ass whoppin.

the cast is great, with Dennis Quaid, Jake Gyllenhall and Ian Holm. It even had a storyline

The special effects were great, and not too over the top either.

Overall, a very enjoyable film

oh, and the chick is f***ing spectacular :)

Yar looks good, planning on seeing it on thursday.

I saw a post on IMDB about some dude who claimed it was pornographic because it showed NYC being destroyed a mere 3 years after sep11. Twas quite the s*** storm until he deleted his posts.

yes, but new york was still there. it was just colder :)

I wouldn't mind seeing it although I'll wait a while so there's no smacktards there to ruin it.

It looks like indepedance day without the funny black guy.

How did you see it when its not out till Thursday?

He works at the Garbo cinemas.

While we are commenting on movies, Shrek 2 ,looks pretty awesome :) ill be seeing this one...

last edited by Andrewus at 23:16:19 24/May/04

*waves his gold class tickets at everyone*

chermside, thursday baby!

I saw a post on IMDB about some dude who claimed it was pornographic because it showed NYC being destroyed a mere 3 years after sep11

ahhhhh, wtf?

*waves his gold class tickets at everyone*

chermside, thursday baby!

Ppfftt, Gold Class, IMAX is where its at!

indeed khel - you have converted me.

props!

I would have to say this is the most enjoyable movie I've seen all year (at least that I can remember off the top of my head, anyway). Just got back from seeing it and I thought it was awesome; I was thoroughly engrossed the whole way through. Dennis Quaid is just frickin' awesome and Jake Gyllenhall was great too.

I loved it, but I actually caught myself thinking 'wow, this would be so cool.. because we now have a chance to replace the SMTP protocol with something that doesn't totally suck'

it was near the end, when americas in an ice age and australia is relatively unscaved.

thread reviver!

Was pretty mad, could have focused more on what was happening as a whole though rather then just some d00d going into to save his son.

I would have to say this is the most enjoyable movie I've seen all year (at least that I can remember off the top of my head, anyway). Just got back from seeing it and I thought it was awesome; I was thoroughly engrossed the whole way through. Dennis Quaid is just frickin' awesome and Jake Gyllenhall was great too.

You and I both know that the best actor in the film was Emmy Rossum. ;)

i'd have to disagree with you trog on that note, i found the first half was incredibly well done, then it just hit a deadend and dragged ... it had some entertaining parts, but overall, the yawn factor was too high for the last hour or so

but, as a writer myself, i understand that it would be quite difficult to keep that sort of story entertaining ... i personally would have ended it for the human race or left the ending open so that there was a minor chance of survival, which would put the audience in a state of unrest but hopefully awe inspired by the rest of the film (it seems the movie was really created to provoke thought - this would have been a good way of doing it in my opinion)


i found the acting was quite good, however, the dialogue wasn't - this seemed to make the actors suffer despite their awesome performances


not a bad movie anyway, 5.8/10

my cousin told me it was complete and utter s*** and told me that if i went to go see it he'd kick my arse.

so i doubt i will, although it looks cool :P.

and a 5 POINT 8 rating eh?

haha

too complex for all.

yeah I thought it was pretty ordinary. What was the deal with developing a heap of characters, when not only were they trivial to the 'story', but even the main characters played second string to the CGI climate.

Also, the acting was craptastic, almost equal to the script and plot. There is no way that guy could make it all the way to New York.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wasn't the president's motorcade reported as missing or gone? Then he just appears out of nowhere at the end.

And how could the ice melt so quickly, when it is in such cold waters. Maybe if it somehow quickly floated down towards warmer waters it'd melt fast.

That said, the effects were pretty good, watching the tornado form in LA was cool, so was the tidal wave hitting new york. For me, those scenes came in close to being the most enjoyable part, however, I think the Nike soccer ad before the start stole the show.

Did I mention the acting sucked?

I thought it was great, but the ending was a tad abrupt and I would have liked to hear a bit more about other parts of the world.

Also, the acting was craptastic, almost equal to the script and plot. There is no way that guy could make it all the way to New York.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wasn't the president's motorcade reported as missing or gone? Then he just appears out of nowhere at the end.

you DO know that it's not that far between washington and new york, right?

also, the president didn't just re-appear at the end, that was the vice president who was now the president.

That fixed about 2 out of 10000000 holes in the story...

I agree it was so crap, GUYS if you want to see the best parts of the movie watch the trailer for it, trust me you wont miss much

Saw this last night at Indro as part of a NetOptions corporate promo. The acting was so so and the plot fairly ordinary. Politicians ignoring the scientist with the wild ideas but converted by the end of the movie is an overused cliche. I just didn't care if the prof made it to New York or not and was affected more about what happened to the three Poms than the stars Gyllenhall and Quaid.

However the effects were excellent. Seeing the snap freeze scenes, the weather patterns from space and the frozen New York made it worth while.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wasn't the president's motorcade reported as missing or gone? Then he just appears out of nowhere at the end.

See, if you'd paid attention to the movie, maybe you would have enjoyed it more :)

^^^

My favorite part was watching the flag freeze over, it was really well done, props to the FX guys

That fixed about 2 out of 10000000 holes in the story..

List the other 9999998 holes and I'll fix them too.

It was a good movie, a few things that bought the movie down though imo were:

***Spoilers***

- You didn't get to see the president die, you only get to hear about it. I guess though if you saw the president die the movie would be considered "controversial", at least they had the balls to do it and do it well in Mars Attacks though ;)

- Would have been good to see what happened to those guys in that weather station, you can only assume that they die but you don't see anything more of them after you see them drinking that scotch, if all those ppl in New York were able to survive by lighting fires in their offices then i wouldve thought these guys could've done the same.

- The CG Wovles were really really badly done, with all the awsome special effects they do with the storms, the wolves really sucked, they would've been better off using some of Jim Henson's puppets.

- The end of the movie was really bad, I wasn't expecting it to be that great but it was a bit of a let down considering how good the rest of the movie was, imo, far too many ppl survived, especially in NY... I guess if they ended the movie on a down note which i was hoping it was going to, it probably would've got much worse reviews than ending the movie like they did.


last edited by Nailbomb at 09:57:27 08/Jun/04

I thought it was pretty awesome, sounds like once again some people are expecting too much from the movie and not enjoying it for what it is. I went in there expecting a big budget, special effects driven disaster movie and thats what I got, so I was quite happy.

I didn't find the second half dragged at all, it followed the pretty standard formula for disaster movies. Some guy tells people in charge that bad s*** is gonna happen, nobody listens, bad s*** happens (cue uber special effects and destruction), then it follows a few people as they try and survive/escape the bad s***.

even the main characters played second string to the CGI climate.

Of course they did, thats the whole point of the movie, its a disaster movie so the star of the movie is always going to be the disaster.

The effects were awesome but the movie was complete ass. I don't wanna see a father trying to rescue his son, I wanna see carnage and s*** getting hammered.

I'm so glad I'm not one of these up-tight-hippie a******s who thinks that they're a movie critic, I couldn't imagine living through life critising every little detail about things

Just enjoy the movie for what it is, not for what you thought it was supposed to be.

I'm glad I can just watch a movie and enjoy it, then forget all about it and continue with my life, that is all.

last edited by teq at 11:11:53 08/Jun/04

So what you're saying is, no matter how bad the movie is you'll still enjoy it for what it is.

Wrong!!

8-)

I enjoyed it for the CGI, even the overall story was quite good but what lost it for me was it's lack of focus. The way it gave 'insights' into various characters in the film was poorly done and distracted from the father son story.

For example I found that although the mothers scenes in the hospital with cancer boy were ment to be emotional they came out to be very flat and annoying. As soon as you see cancer boy in the film you know that they were going to do some lame s*** like that, it was incredibly cheap IMO.

I enjoyed the movie when it was focused on the father or the son because that actually had potential for decent entertainment and the movie would've been excellent if it had simply focused on those two and the people who immediately surrounded them. Particularly after the climate had changed. All the other little stories were boring and cheap attempts at emotional scenes.

Also CGI does not a good movie make, I even thought it was quite a poor effort in some areas.

I enjoy a movie as long as I can get lost in it, and not be mentally aware that I'm watching a movie, that is all that a movie has to do for me.

Too many people survived against ridiculous odds.

I dont get how everytyhing "freezes" over. How does s*** like the marble floor which has no liquid in it freeze? Same goes with all the metal...metal doesnt just freeze...
Still, cool movie.

Astroboy and 290 missed the plot because they were too 'busy' with each other

**** SPOILERS ****






In response to 290; yes, you did miss some things.

Firstly, getting to NYC in the snow? Quite possible, he was in the artic (or possibly the antartic, memory ain't too good) at the start of the movie. He mentioned he had crossed large sections of the polar ice caps, so a stroll across a couple of U.S. states was nothing. Like saying Brisbane to Sydney is impossible when he'd already done Weipa to Perth.

Secondly, yes, the president was killed, and his vice-president was promoted to president. The significance of that was that the VP ignored the main characters predictions, but at the end of the movie he had learnt from his mistakes and listened to him.

Thirdly, there was no real mention of how much ice melted, but the idea was that entire chunks of the caps broke off and floated into warmer climates and melted. That was somewhat unrealistic how it caused tidal waves though.

Fourth, the acting was decent for a special effects driven movie.

Fifth, the stupidest parts were that the timberwolves survived where the humans had died, without the ability to clothe themselves, create fire or reason through behavioural thermoregulation. Also, the kid ran from the cold. CHASED by the cold. All I could think about was a 'Scooby-Doo' scene were he would run through a door into another one, and the frost would chase him through etc.


Overall, a decent movie, but nothing to write home about.

they are wolves you dick...they have a mad fur coat that clothes them. they live in the snow. thats how they survived.

they get chased down a hall wall by cold air

lol come on guys

yeah wolves live in somewhat artic conditions, but i never thought they were that hardcore, like that black kid beat one of them on the head with an object repeatedly and it seemed none the worse for wear.

I thought the movie was alright, the cgi effects were pretty cool, especially the tornados and that.

Also it wasnt really a tidal wave sort of thing that hit new york, it was more like the level of the ocean just raised like 500 meters in a few minutes. I thought that was alright because there was nothing to cause an actual tidal wave.

How can you think this movie was any good? Saw it last weekend was absolutely s***.

Too many people survived against ridiculous odds.

Yeh... like, at the end when they went over New York and you could see its 20 million inhabitants practically unscathed on the rooftops of the skyscrapers!

i thought they mustve been at a rave or something, matrix style.

Everyone i've spoken to said this movie was the worst thing they'd seen in 2-3yrs, including overtaking Blue Crush and Gigli. The fact that so many qglers like it reinforces it for me.

Thanks guys you make picking movies to not waste my money on 10x easier.

and a 5 POINT 8 rating eh?

yeah, i couldn't decide whether it was a 5.5 or 6 ... :\

Also it wasnt really a tidal wave sort of thing that hit new york, it was more like the level of the ocean just raised like 500 meters in a few minutes

Wow, and that's called, a tidal wave!

See, if you'd paid attention to the movie, maybe you would have enjoyed it more :)

I was too busy trying to figure why there is such a screenwriter shortage in america. And thinking about those tornadoes.

i thought they mustve been at a rave or something, matrix style.

More like Independence Day style.

more s***:
-the three guys at the start, until reading N-dude, I didn't know they were the main guys. Maybe they should have used real actors who are distinguishable from bums on the street. Also, THey didn't give a sense time passing, I couldn't tell how long the movie went for ie a few days, 6-8 weeks?

-wolves, why couldn't they have used real wolves? In moviemaking, you shouldn't always have to turn to dodgy CGI,

-they spent too long focusing on s***ty characters, like the dudes in Scotland and the kid in the hoispital, who the f*** was he?

-What were the odds of a ship heading down a street in New York? a)would it fit, b)why would it stop right outside their building?

-Wouldn't it be safer in a tall building, where there is actually food? I thought a storm that size would have snowed that small library in several times over.

-How come those dumb c***s were burning books, when in an old building such as that, there is all this quality timber that would burn for ages? Books would turn to cinder straight away, those guys are meant to be really smart.

-The cleaner in LA opening the door and there's nothing there was extremely annoying.

-The tidal wave thing, I thought it was good watching it form and spread through the city, just BS that they survived it.

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I'm glad I can just watch a movie and enjoy it, then forget all about it and continue with my life, that is all.

Half the reason we get s*** stories like this is because people accept the s*** they serve us, and pay for it.

-I couldn't have put it betterthan rev:

The effects were awesome but the movie was complete ass. I don't wanna see a father trying to rescue his son, I wanna see carnage and s*** getting hammered.

the three guys at the start, until reading N-dude, I didn't know they were the main guys. Maybe they should have used real actors who are distinguishable from bums on the street.

But you've seen movies before, right? Like, 5th Element?

Also, THey didn't give a sense time passing, I couldn't tell how long the movie went for ie a few days, 6-8 weeks?

You mean, except every time they said "its going to be only a few years" and then kept revising the time frame down telling you at every time how fast it was all happening?

-wolves, why couldn't they have used real wolves? In moviemaking, you shouldn't always have to turn to dodgy CGI,

This is my only complaint. I guess its cheaper/easier to have CGI wolves now than it is to actually train wolves.

-they spent too long focusing on s***ty characters, like the dudes in Scotland and the kid in the hoispital, who the f*** was he?

A sick kid who Quaid's wife didn't want to abandon. Were you watching the movie?

-What were the odds of a ship heading down a street in New York? a)would it fit, b)why would it stop right outside their building?

You mean, after the sealevel rises about 50 meters filling the streets of New York with water?

-Wouldn't it be safer in a tall building, where there is actually food? I thought a storm that size would have snowed that small library in several times over.

It did snow it over. At the end only the roof was able to be seen. Were you watching the movie?

Books would turn to cinder straight away, those guys are meant to be really smart.

That's why they were burning the BIG books!

-The cleaner in LA opening the door and there's nothing there was extremely annoying.

I disagree, I thought it was awesome and I thought the subsequent zoom out showing the devastation was awesome and eerily realistic-looking.

-The tidal wave thing, I thought it was good watching it form and spread through the city, just BS that they survived it.

I'm sure not everyone on the streets of NY made it into the library.

The fact that so many qglers like it reinforces it for me.

Good.. oh - you're being inexplicably sarcastic

I wasn't gonna bother rebutting some of the gripes people had but some of them are really funny.

haha, 290 got served....

no i didnt, he was joking:

That's why they were burning the BIG books!

I gotta admit, I did wonder why they were burning books when there were so many lovely wooden desks around. I think even the trolley they used to carry the books around on was wood?

Still, its the sort of movie where you're not meant to think about those things. These sorts of movies aren't about pondering the logistics of how a giant ship gets into the streets of new york, they're about turning off your brain and going "Phwoar, theres a giant ship in the streets of new york!"

did you notice that there was timber in the fireplace as well as books? don't you think you're being a little over the top if all you're left with is "they were burning paper not timber". don't you think it's time you moved on?

the three guys at the start, until reading N-dude, I didn't know they were the main guys. Maybe they should have used real actors who are distinguishable from bums on the street.

I knew immediately so i guess you're just stupid. Perhaps you wernt looking at their faces?

Also, THey didn't give a sense time passing, I couldn't tell how long the movie went for ie a few days, 6-8 weeks?

Once again, I found it quite obvious that it was all over a few days. The events the characters faced gave an idea as to the time passing. Ie the need for food, the girl needing drugs etc

wolves, why couldn't they have used real wolves? In moviemaking, you shouldn't always have to turn to dodgy CGI

I had no problem with the way the wolves looked..they looked scary and menacing like they were sposed to. Some of the stuff the wolves did HAD to be done in CGI eg jumping into the corridor and smacking into the wall. So they could have either trained real wolves and had CGI or simply done CGI and pleased the majority of people.

they spent too long focusing on s***ty characters, like the dudes in Scotland and the kid in the hoispital, who the f*** was he?

The dudes in Scotland discovered that the sea temperatures were changing...seems pretty relevant to me.

What were the odds of a ship heading down a street in New York? a)would it fit, b)why would it stop right outside their building?

Oh geez, I dont know, but the rest of the scenario was by all means probable.

Wouldn't it be safer in a tall building, where there is actually food? I thought a storm that size would have snowed that small library in several times over.

It was shown to be safe in taller buildings as the people on the rooftops at the end showed. Jake Gyllenhaal and pals just happened to be on the street at the time.

How come those dumb c***s were burning books, when in an old building such as that, there is all this quality timber that would burn for ages? Books would turn to cinder straight away, those guys are meant to be really smart.

Because they had ALOT of books and as someone else said, there was wood in there too. Hey, ever tried to start a fire f***face? You cant just hold a match to the wood, you've gotta start the flames going with something. The only other time when they were throwing heaps of books on was when the room was about to freeze over...how else would they have produced a lot of flames quickly? Quickly chuck heaps of wood on and watch the fire go out, or chuck on heaps of books and watch the flames go.

The cleaner in LA opening the door and there's nothing there was extremely annoying.

that is a matter of personal opinion, not a flaw in the film making

The tidal wave thing, I thought it was good watching it form and spread through the city, just BS that they survived it.

How far in land do you think they were? A fair amount of water was dispersed throughout the city. Where they were in the library wasnt exactly ground level either, there was a fair bit of water in the lower levels


You are yet to provide a genuine hole in the film. Other than ridiculous nit picking, you have nothing.

last edited by reload! at 16:47:42 08/Jun/04

why the f*** are people saying there were too many survivors. NYC has a population of what, roughly 20~ million?. I didnt see that many at the end.

It's a movie get over it, why sit around and winge about every bit of a movie u dont find 'perfect'.

You are yet to provide a genuine hole in the film. Other than ridiculous nit picking, you have nothing.

A tidal wave that size would have smashed the buildings to bits as it ripped through the streets, just like in Deep Inpact, I saw it at the movie so it must be real. ;)

- How could the temperature change so quickly, what was is 13 degrees in how many seconds...riiight

- Doesn’t an ice Age occur because the planets temperature drops because the sun heat being blocked?
BUT
I assuming this was because the gulf stream stopped, the temperature drop would happen slowly as I said above

- It pisses me off how there has to be 1 guy that no one listens to, that s***s me, all these movies have the same s*** in them. I found this that relates to what i said

Someone always knows whats going to happen but learns at the last moment and no one believes him until its to late.

The main character is always saved at the last moment and is always saved by a simple door.....in ID black woman in a tunnel saved by a door in the nick of time.....and the dog always lives.

They also wait till the last minute to help a friend and then always look back then run away in fear.

Someone is always killing them self for the group, and the others are always saying we can still help you as the sacrifice falls to his death.

There is always a bad reason to go out back into the danger.....of the ship must have medicine.....and flying wolves?

arhh! the animals always know we are screwed before we do.

Their is always some person who thinks they can make it and dies a horrible but humours death, eg tv guy standing in the middle of the streets hit by a billboard and the rich guys in the bus? Where would the bus go?

Cell phones always work, or cut out at the last moment.

their is always time for love, dude tell her how you feel.

The sweet old people always die peacefully or drinking some old bottle....and they never survive only the young.

There is always a horrible president or vice president who dosent know anything.

Minorities are always for variation or stereotype, and the rich finally connect with the poor during a disaster.....bum and rich kid, stripper and first lady?

- Phones work underwater? Well i'll be!

- Didnt they mention a typhoon over some country? All good and well but as the dictionary says "A tropical cyclone occurring in the western Pacific or Indian oceans." I was under the impression that it happens only over sea NOT land!

- The boat, now f*** me! Why did a huge boat happen to be in that area, they would go by navigational equipment and Im sure they would go, hey, let NOT go towards the buildings.

- If there is to be an ice shelf split, where would the splitting take place? Right smack through the centre of the scientists' camp, of course! and directly through the drill site as well - how convenient!

- That tidal wave in the wide shot was f***ing huge, and the library was pretty small, put 1 and 1 together and you will get them = f***ed

- They even changed facts to leave the AMERICAN audience feeling patriotic, "The director admitted that the SoL (Statue of Liberty) would have been knocked over, but wanted a more dramatic "American Landmark Remains Standing As A Beacon Of Hope"
Scientific....OK!

- The helicopter flying between two tornadoes in LA, what there is no wind near 2 f***ing huge tornadoes? I think there would be and it would make it kinda hard to fly

- I agree with 290, they focused too much on people that had nothing to do with the main story.

- "the fire in the chimney (open to all weather) didnt go out"

- Imdb - 6.2/10, and that is generous

And this post on Imdb says it all "i actually left the theater and demanded my money back...and got my refund too!

last edited by Astroboy at 17:35:46 08/Jun/04

- Didnt they mention a typhoon over some country? All good and well but as the dictionary says "A tropical cyclone occurring in the western Pacific or Indian oceans." I was under the impression that it happens only over sea NOT land!

Once again, if you payed attention to the movie, the explained this. Its evident you were to busy thinking about how hardcore your stupid crappy review was going to be instead of actually watching the movie and maybe even understanding it.

Ok, you can pick up on 1 point out of how many?...and i didnt even mention the wolves!

dude, i have a respones to every one of your questions, but its a waste of my time, because they are pretty pathetic, and trog took care of most of it.

You havent put any input into this thread on why you think the movie is good or bad, I have. I said I personally thought it was s***house because... So either give reasons to back up your opinion or f*** off back to your sold forum

last edited by Astroboy at 17:56:17 08/Jun/04

hahahahhaa, f*** off newb. Have a teary bceause someone put you in your place.

I thought it was quite evident that I liked the movie. Maybe on the intelligent people can understand it. Oh well, at least you can go to school tomorrow and maybe print out this page for show and tell!!

But once again, i dont need to bring points into this, because you already repeated what was covered, and trog has filled the blanks

- How could the temperature change so quickly, what was is 13 degrees in how many seconds...riiight

That was explained in the movie too. I dont know if its true or possible, but it sounded plausible enough that I was happy. I guess I was just too busy going "Phwoar, that helicopter pilot just snap froze!" and being impressed by the effects when the reall cold bit hit the city. I mean, after all, that was the point of the movie, it wasn't supposed to be a science documentary.

- Doesn’t an ice Age occur because the planets temperature drops because the sun heat being blocked?

An ice age occurs when things get really really cold. Does it really matter how they get really really cold?

- It pisses me off how there has to be 1 guy that no one listens to, that s***s me, all these movies have the same s*** in them.

Its a successful formula for disaster movies, even if you go back to movies like The Towering Infero, you'll find the same formula in place. When you go to see a disaster movie you should be expecting those things, as they are part of any good disaster movie.

- Phones work underwater? Well i'll be!

Really, you care about that stuff? Its a movie for christs sake. Just for the sake of being pedantic though, odds are the phone lines were under the ground, reasonably well protected and probably still working to some degree. And the phone he was using wasn't underwater, and cut out when it did go underwater.

- The boat, now f*** me! Why did a huge boat happen to be in that area, they would go by navigational equipment and Im sure they would go, hey, let NOT go towards the buildings.

Well there was nobody on board the ship, so we can assume they were either rescued or something happened to them. Either way, there was nobody on board to guide it and direct it away from buildings. Granted, its a bit much to believe it would casually float down streets and not end up smashed on top of/into a building somewhere, but once again, its just a movie, enjoy it instead of picking it apart!

- If there is to be an ice shelf split, where would the splitting take place? Right smack through the centre of the scientists' camp, of course! and directly through the drill site as well - how convenient!

It'd be a pretty boring movie if everything happened in places where nobody was. Hes the main character, of course the interesting s*** is gonna happen around him, thats how movies work.

- That tidal wave in the wide shot was f***ing huge, and the library was pretty small, put 1 and 1 together and you will get them = f***ed

The library was also pretty far into the city, the wave would have lost a lot of its force by the time it got there.

I can't be bothered going through the other points, I dont know why I was bothered going through the ones I did, I guess I'm just bored. Either way, all it comes down to is stop thinking so much and just enjoy movies. Sure theres movies that are there to make you think and are thought provoking, then theres movies like this where you just switch off your brain, sit back and enjoy the ride.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Im with caffinekhel

It's always funny watching the try hard cynical wannabe intellectuals try and pick apart a movie that even the director of said was total bulls***, and could never happen in reality.

All someone has to do to answer your f***ing ridiculously idiotic points is to quote them all in one block and write "you are a stupid f***ing f***** who enjoys cock" underneath it. To me, that would be the perfect answer to your stupidity.

Haven't seen he movie yet, will wait for it on DVD.

But, when you advertise a movie, "based on scientific facts" and then have so many holes and questions left by the viewer it seems kinda redundant.

"you are a stupid f***ing f***** who enjoys cock"

hrmm, a great point full of mature rebuttals

last edited by Astroboy at 18:16:06 08/Jun/04

Errr, the director is on record saying that the timeframe over which the movie happens is an impossibility.

You are a stupid f***ing f***** who enjoys cock.

Iv never seen any ad like that.......pics or lying!

Don't flatter yourself, if you walked into a kindergarden and some kid started speaking s*** to you, would you speak intellectually to them? No. Same applies to you here.

also, i was wondering if you could post your phd and other credentials so we know that you know what your talkinga bout in regards to global warming, and maybe the experiments you conducted to reach these conclutions......DR

Well maybe if you are going to pick at me about knowledge and maturity, you should run your posts by a spell check so you don’t look like an ass! And your last point could go for you as well. I obviously don’t have a PHD in anything, I made 1 comment about global warming and the rest of my points were based on stupidity and crappy directing and actors. It was one of those movies you see for the special effects and don’t expect much more

last edited by Astroboy at 18:27:07 08/Jun/04

rest of my points were based on stupidity

Wow, first time you've been right so far.

See, I can take things out of context too.

...on behalf of the screenwriter and director you assclown

Honestly, get a life!

Just show a small sign of maturity and let it go now, so you dont ruin this thread any more!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/

last edited by Astroboy at 18:34:08 08/Jun/04

Honestly, look my posts.

And f*** look at yourself too with that 'get a life' comment. You go see a movie and then come home and spend the time to type out easily some of the most stupid 'flaws' I have ever seen. It really is humerous to me. Next you'll be seeing rotk and coming home to your caravan and typing out things like "omg orcs don't exist lol i am spo smaerts" and expecting us to take you seriously and carefully answer your well founded claims.

Just die.

last edited by fpot at 18:32:35 08/Jun/04

I liked the movie only because that chick was f***ing hot and I came ok.

that chick was quite alright.

Good.. oh - you're being inexplicably sarcastic

Don't read between the lines you guys have notorious s*** taste in movies.

I can't beleive that this thread is in this state and clipto or typo haven't posted yet.

I wonder if some of you paying out this movie were even watching it because the things you point out are so stupid and often explained in the movie. Heres one example:

b)why would it stop right outside their building?

If you were actually watching it you would have watched the scene where it shows the front of the boat getting caught up on vehicle/bus reckage underwater.

Thank you applor for your insight into that, I dont know how heavy that boat would be but im guessing it would have alot more force and momentum behind it to not be stopped by a tiny bus.

Movie was alright, I thought it dragged on alot thouhg.. But the CGI was brilliant.

I'm still struggling to understand, why people are finding it so important to point out all the little points in a MOVIE that they find are unrealistic. Why not see the movie and take it as a "movie" not a documentary on science/animal movements or otherwise. Settle The f*** Down.

I'd reply but I've got to get out of the house, there is some cold air chasing me around in here.

That was explained in the movie too. I dont know if its true or possible, but it sounded plausible enough that I was happy. I guess I was just too busy going "Phwoar, that helicopter pilot just snap froze!" and being impressed by the effects when the reall cold bit hit the city. I mean, after all, that was the point of the movie, it wasn't supposed to be a science documentary.

Please, the movies explanations were ass. The movie was nothing more than a string of cliched plots interspersed with some nice special effects. It hurt me that they even tried to explain things. And even when you ignore the stupidity of the plot, it still doesn't make it a decent movie. I mean all it was was a big wave, a few chunks of ice hitting some japs on the head and some tornados. Seriously, the crap they show on fox8 like "when weather attacks" is cooler.

I can completely ignore the retarded psuedo science of it and yet i still can't see anything worth watching the movie for. It didn't even have a funny black guy.

What about the homeless dude?

I agree with 290

That's because you always agree with 290 based on your 'special' relationship

the fire in the chimney (open to all weather) didnt go out

Have you ever seen a real chimney? The top of them is covered with holes on the side so smoke can get out but water cant get in. Also the fact that there is a fair bit of heat going up that sucker would quickly evaporate any small amount of snow that gets in.

NO!!! nF is my special friend because he isnt stupid like the rest of you and has hit it right on the head!

Have you ever seen a real chimney?

Nah, i have only seen those fake ones

last edited by Astroboy at 21:30:23 08/Jun/04

Ok so snow and water can't get in, but what about cold? Wouldn't the cold put the fire out.

Khel forgot:

- "the fire in the chimney (open to all weather) didnt go out"

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. Why would it go out?

The fireplace at my parents has a big steel thing (the flue?) over the actual flames. Like, it could be bucketing rain and none would actually get into the fireplace. Even if it did, if you've got a big enough fire, its probably not going to go out!

Anyway, your attempts to discredit the movie on mere technical faults are amusing, but sadly not working. Its still a good movie! AHAH!!!!!!!

Ok so snow and water can't get in, but what about cold? Wouldn't the cold put the fire out.

The cold did threaten to put the fire out when the super-cooled air came in - they rushed to put more stuff on the fire.

Did any of you people WATCH this movie? So many of the complaints have been stuff that was quite clearly addressed.

Even if it did, if you've got a big enough fire, its probably not going to go out

Well i will listen to you when you see if your parents fire goes out during an ice age, then we shall argue

The cold did threaten to put the fire out when the super-cooled air came in - they rushed to put more stuff on the fire.

I assumed it was to keep them warm. Just like how the dad turned on the gas stoves.

These sorts of movies aren't about pondering the logistics of how a giant ship gets into the streets of new york, they're about turning off your brain and going "Phwoar, theres a giant ship in the streets of new york!"

We salute you.

I assumed it was to keep them warm. Just like how the dad turned on the gas stoves.

Purple dinosaur closet? Mushroom after the zygote, an apple in summertime?

I find disaster moofies very, very boring.
I doubt that this one is any different.

Not dissing anyone, just my personal opinion. :)

I'd reply but I've got to get out of the house, there is some cold air chasing me around in here.

that made this thread worth reading.

PS: the movie was fine, but won't be winning best screenplay of course - but for what it was, it was great.

everyone who is being pedantic about little insifnificant faults in the movie are just posting flame bait. If you didn't like the movie fine, but posting "OmG the Fire would have gone out due to the cold weather going down the chimney and smothering it" is unrelated to the actual movie! I'm sure that most of kill bill was bs, but that dosn't take away from the actual movie.

The day after tomorrow - CG, then rely solely on acting and plot development = pile of s***

Alot of you idiots are just going hey look pretty CG, watch about 10 seconds of that and going, it is good! Overlooking what makes a movie a good movie. Look at what films are going to go down in history as being the best of our time, the old black and white ones. Why? Because they didnt have special effects and all that bulls*** and they relied on a good story and the best actors of our time.

Edit: im not flaming the movie for the fun of it. I still say that the CG was awesome to watch but it wasnt enough to fill in the gaps of the bad acting and loose story.

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actually i appreciated the theme of the movie at its best. To assume we all have one opinion of the movie and one way of looking at it is silly. The only problem with the cg imho was the wolves, maybe a bit over done. But that didn't take away from the main themes that the movie was blatently pursuing.

I agree with you there. I mean part of the world is freezing over, there is a f***ing huge tidal wave heading into Manhattan. Tornados all through LA. Why the f*** not throw in some wolves for good measure!? AND make them look s***ty!

Look at what films are going to go down in history as being the best of our time, the old black and white ones. Why? Because they didnt have special effects and all that bulls*** and they relied on a good story and the best actors of our time.

I really hate watching the old classics, well mainly anything to do with a young Mickey Rooney, Shirley Temple or whinging ladies. Ever watch an old film with Mickey Rooney, FFS they're hard to get thru.

8-)

well what did u expect, tell me that. If you go there for plausable eyecandy then just go watch some porn instead to arrouse your senses. If you wanted good acting, imo it wasn't too bad. But if you wanted a good plot well it don't coming any better than what 'could' or 'might' happen. But the could and might are debatable so i won't go into that apart from saying that the world isn't flat, imagination knows no limits in the world of reality.

That was the good old days, when your dinner was there every night, women wouldnt question your authority and "certain folk werent allowed on the golf course" (futurama fans?)

I still havent seen the movie and with all these mixed view points about it i intend to go watch it and the punisher sometime.

Also, was this movie released tonight or something cause all the sudden there's a 100 or so posts in here. This thread is fairly old and you do know teq revived it. Whatever bitch on...

fggt.

futurama is awesome

The day after tomorrow - CG, then rely solely on acting and plot development = pile of s***

Why would you take the CG away from a movie that was all about its effects?

Thats like saying "Schindler's List - nazis - jews = crap movie".

i just saw it. i thought it was pretty cool. people who go to see movies like this one or, for another goo example, van helsing, expecting a brilliantly scripted, intellectual movie are time wasting whingers. ok, the science in it was not fictional. the only thing "unrealistic" about it was that it would happen aver a period of a few years, not a few days/weeks.

but the effects were awesome and i love storms, so seeing some f***-off massive storms was cool.

never mind rev evil - his brain has been fried by too many bulbs, not to mention his abuse of manhood at watching too many chick flicks and re runs of full house.

reload -

I knew immediately so i guess you're just stupid. Perhaps you wernt looking at their faces?

weren't they wearing hoods?

they looked scary and menacing

Have you seen Resident Evil? Their real dogs were better. But maybe you're right, perhaps next time they could even use CGI character, they'd probably have acted better

CGI and pleased the majority of people

oh yes, the idiots I forgot about the movie-going public.

The dudes in Scotland discovered that the sea temperatures were changing...seems pretty relevant to me

But any idiot could have said that in 5 seconds. Why develop some goon's character if his role is to deliver one line?

It was shown to be safe in taller buildings as the people on the rooftops at the end showed. Jake Gyllenhaal and pals just happened to be on the street at the time.

keep reading, I thought that an ice-age-sized storm would have produced more than five stories or so of snow.

Hey, ever tried to start a fire

yes books can be used to START fires. Imagine a bookstore catching on fire. Now imagine a same-sized timber store catching on fire. Which would burn longer and more intensely?

f***face

your petty name calling discredits your arguments because you are letting your emotions get in the way of logic.

Astroboy -

Didnt they mention a typhoon over some country?

actually, if my memory serves me, it wasn't just any typhoon, but the largest ever recorded in AUSTRALIA! Can we check the records and see just how many have actually been recorded in Australia?

How could the temperature change so quickly

I don't know, but i do know that last time I put an ice cube into a freezer it didn't melt very fast. even the fridge took some time, but that is just an analogy.

reload-

the fact that there is a fair bit of heat going up that sucker would quickly evaporate any small amount of snow that gets in.

any smallamounts? I shan't refute such a stupid comment, but its so hard to resist. No, I'll go onto the next remark.
A REAL chimney? ...must refrain... have to continue...


REV -

Ever watch an old film with Mickey Rooney, FFS

What about the Jimmy Stewart ones, the Hitchcocks, and heaps more. Of course there will be 10000 s*** ones, but there are some real good ones. Even recent films such as Jurrasic Park. I like how they still made the T-rex out of a giant robot instead of going straight to CGI, but back onto the subject at hand:

And the wolves? How the freak did they escape from the zoo?

But now, ladies and gentlemen, KHEL, for your enjoyment, we kindly ask that you switch off your brains as we present:













Nup, didn’t do much for me sorry.


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If you didn't like the movie fine, but posting "OmG the Fire would have gone out due to the cold weather going down the chimney and smothering it" is unrelated to the actual movie!

It was actually a fairly blatant troll i thought. Also, i just remembered the wolves. I mean really.

isn't typhoon just the american word for tropical cyclone? so they would be saying typhoon but meaning that there was a huge tropical cyclone in australia?

I thought the wolves, aside from being a bit lamely CGI, were a cool addition. I was especially happy that they used them instead of the usual disaster plot device for a challenge and have some random guy go insane inside the library and try and eat their skin or something.

yeh i thought the wolves looked cool too. they looked much nastier and scarier than real wolves. you could full on smash the wolves in to stuff which you couldnt do if they were real, for animal cruelty reasons.. pfft. so no choice really. the ghey part was how obvious it was; it felt contrived. ok quick shot of bad ass wolves, then quick shot of them escaped, next thing theyre on the ship lookign to eat ppl.

It was shown to be safe in taller buildings as the people on the rooftops at the end showed. Jake Gyllenhaal and pals just happened to be on the street at the time.

actually, didn't you notice when the eye of the super-cell came over new york, it froze from the top down?
you know, because the super cooled air was being pulled down from the troposphere.

ny smallamounts? I shan't refute such a stupid comment, but its so hard to resist. No, I'll go onto the next remark.
A REAL chimney? ...must refrain... have to continue...

As i already stated, and i repeat f***face, why would snow get down the chimney? Chimneys have worked forever in countries where it snows and rains...they have a cover so s*** cant get in...YES! SMALL AMOUNTS! I dont care how much it is snowing, it just means more would be hitting the street level. Did you see how big the library is 290? A considerable amount of snow built up around it so that only the roof was showing.
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~aikeda/eastcoast/nypl.jpg
Notice how big that f***er is? If the snow goes all the way to the roof, I dont see why that is too un acceptable.
Also, they were wearing goggles but you could still see their faces. They opened their mouths too and this thing called speech came out. When someone talks one day, and then again the next, they sound the same.


z0r I wasnt saying it was be safer in the tall buildings, i was simply stating that people survived in other buildings as well.

Why? Because they didnt have special effects and all that bulls*** and they relied on a good story and the best actors of our time.

Are you kidding me? Some of the old black and white films I've seen have acting so bad they make you cringe.



Also, yes Funky you are right.
Typhoons are just Cyclones in the northern hemisphere, they rotate in the opposite direction.
Japan gets quite a few typhoons.

Chimneys have worked forever in countries where it snows and rains

What about countries that have had ice ages? The point I was trying to make, which obviously goes over your head, is A small fireplace would not continue burning in that type of temperature. If the whole building freezes, why wouldn't the fireplace? A few books may burn at 300`C, thats not enough to protect it from an ice age, regardless of the size or position of the holes.

They opened their mouths too

sorry, I should have recognised the allignment of his teeth and matched them with that actor's dental records.

I wasnt saying it was be safer in the tall buildings

The newer buildings would be more insulated, and cold air tends to remain down low, so I'd have thought buildings with food instead of books was a better place to stay.

I remember them stating something about ground temperatures of -130 degrees, therefore a 300 degree fire would continue id assume.

I see you guys haven't yet realised the futility of what you are discussing, the technical merits of a deliberately over-the-top film.

Perhaps when we hit page 15.

in before page 15

pfffft. sif need food.
some books taste good. also, on that note, funniest line in the movie "Hey, stop arguing, there's a whole section down here on tax law we can burn!"

Some of the old black and white films I've seen have acting so bad they make you cringe.

I've seen some pretty bad colour ones as well, take, ooohhh... This one for example.

ground temperatures of -130 degrees, therefore a 300 degree fire would continue id assume.

Look what happens when 25 degree water (or whatever temperature water is) hits an 800`C house fire. Not much initially, but it can be extinguished.

This wasn't water :)

whats so bad about the acting?

Dennis Quaid is quite a good actor and I though the dude that played his son was also very good. I don't think the movie was a character or plot driven movie but that doesn't make the acting bad.

The fire probably would've gone out but who the f*** cares, it's not like there is any real possibility of weather like that ever occurring anyway. Seriously you didn't like the movie but you don't have to convince other people not to like it as well, let them have their opinion.

Classic fpot

Errr, the director is on record saying that the timeframe over which the movie happens is an impossibility.

You are a stupid f***ing f***** who enjoys cock.

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Don't flatter yourself, if you walked into a kindergarden and some kid started speaking s*** to you, would you speak intellectually to them? No. Same applies to you here.

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Honestly, look my posts.

And f*** look at yourself too with that 'get a life' comment. You go see a movie and then come home and spend the time to type out easily some of the most stupid 'flaws' I have ever seen. It really is humerous to me. Next you'll be seeing rotk and coming home to your caravan and typing out things like "omg orcs don't exist lol i am spo smaerts" and expecting us to take you seriously and carefully answer your well founded claims.

Just die.

Bahahaha "caravan", bahahaha "kindergarden kid"... made my afternoon.

I don't remember reading FPOT, I hope it wasn't directed at me because I refuse to see ROTK so I can't see that happening.

It looks like a waste of time.

It was directed at Astroboy actually but you two are equally stupid in my eyes. Well, maybe Astro is 0.8% more stupid.

edit: and arguing about pointless s*** in this thread doesn't seem like a waste of time to you?

last edited by fpot at 17:50:31 09/Jun/04

I made 1 comment about global warming and the rest of my points were based on stupidity

I think you can safely say that all of your points where based on stupidity … your stupidity.

Some of the old black and white films I've seen have acting so bad they make you cringe.

Some of them are so bad they made Eddie Murphy cringe.

You idiots who are arguing about the fire going out cause of the cold are idiots. Anyone whos even read the back page of a physics book knows why that doesn't work. Same with the whole super freezing thing outside, year 8 science is all thats needed to show how stupid it is, but like i said arguing over how retarded the science of a stupid movie is retarded. That said i might have enjoyed the movie more if i could suspend my disbelief.

I think you can safely say that all of your points where based on stupidity … your stupidity.

Oi I already implied that :P

Look what happens when 25 degree water (or whatever temperature water is) hits an 800`C house fire. Not much initially, but it can be extinguished.

Just to be pedantic, it is not the temperature of the water that extinguishes the fire, but the fact the water 'smothers' the fire and deprives it of oxygen, and furthermore wets the yet-unburnt objects, and making them more flame-retardant to prevent the fire spreading.



Anyway, the movie was a decent 'Leave your brain at the door' movie. Are you all trying to show your intellectual dominance over the screenwriters? It isn't hard, look at movies like Tomb Raider or Half Past Dead or some s*** like that.

I spent most of the movie laughing at the disasters when they impacted specific people, like scooter-guy in Japan and stupid newscaster who gets nailed by a sign. It was an outwardly funny movie. Or at least that's how I watched it.

Oi I already implied that :P

Oh :( I missed it

This wasn't water :)

sure it was

typo: and i made a point saying that it was the directers and crews stupidity, not mine you f***ing idiot. Why not read the thread before you come in like a smartass.

Bottom line, the movie was s***

Im growing a kindergarden in my front yard

last edited by Astroboy at 22:10:22 09/Jun/04

wouldn't the better point to make be that there was no smoke visible coming from the library, even though the fire was still going? also, i didn't see any section of the roof that looked remotely like a chimney that wasn't covered(blocked) by snow ... suffocation by smoke?

i haven't seen this point brought up yet, but i only skimmed the pages

I said their voices sounded the same, not that I could identify their teeth you tard 290.
I didn't hear your other responses sorry, your voice was muffled by astroboy's cock

one of them new silencer cock's eh? i've heard mixed reports

making them more flame-retardant to prevent the fire spreading.

Not unlike the ice freezing the fireplace which will extinguish the flame. Go try light a match in a freezer.



typo -

I think you can safely say that all of your points where based on stupidity … your stupidity.

fpot -

Oi I already implied that :P

typo -

Oh :( I missed it

Who are you to call anyone else stupid?

Also, how come there was no condensation s*** coming from their mouths that usually does in really cold places?

bottom line:
Pretty s*** movie making and directing all over, which just adds to the pathetic acting and even worse editing.

Go try light a match in a freezer.

ok, it works - next test please.

Go try light a match in a freezer.

hahahaha

Not unlike the ice freezing the fireplace which will extinguish the flame. Go try light a match in a freezer.

You are an utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter retard. Utterly f***ing retard. f***ing utterly retarded. You, are a retard.

Arhh,, you got to love irony kindergarden boy!

No s*** it'll light, but how long a fire burn for, again i was simplifying it because i dont think you understand how cold it would have been in the movie, or how frozen books burn.

You are an utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter retard. Utterly f***ing retard. f***ing utterly retarded. You, are a retard.

The ironic thing is I have spoken to actual mentals who have come into work, and they have a larger vocabulary than you... "daauuuhhhh, utter, utter, utter..." Its pretty sad if you have to repeat a word eight times in one line to get a point across.
nb I won't include a line about you still being in primary school as judging by the posts I've seen of yours, I have no doubt that you do have a few wires crossed.

i thaught teh moffie was good

nuff said

Look what happens when 25 degree water (or whatever temperature water is) hits an 800`C house fire. Not much initially, but it can be extinguished.

what N-dude said, and also remembering theres a LOT of energy dispersed because the water changes form from a liquid to a gas.

No s*** it'll light, but how long a fire burn for, again i was simplifying it because i dont think you understand how cold it would have been in the movie, or how frozen books burn.

it will burn for as long as you keep feeding it fuel, be it paper or wood.

so whats your point exactly?

my point is, as i've said many times over the past few pages, paper does not burn for a long time. When the father comes into the room (I imagine that's what he was doing, his acting failed to convince me), the fire was going well. It was books, they burn out very fast, now if I remember training correctly, fire needs three things: oxygen, fuel and heat. That's it in layman terms. Where is the heat, the fabric flag froze still, the cold stopped people in their tracks, it froze the helicopter's fuel lines or some s***, now my point is, and I reiterate, How can a fire stay alight in the conditions they were in?

It is some chemical reaction that converts other energy into heat energy...

fire doesnt 'burn' on heat....

because its allways a nice 20+ degree's in hollywoodland

they weren't out in the open...
much insulation in between them and the outside air.

However I do agree they went a bit far in having the ice 'chase' them all the way to the doors outside their room.