i recently downloaded a movie called the haunting in conneticut and yesterday i was sent an email from bayTSP via my isp, for those who do not know bayTSP is a copyright infringement company. i downloaded the torrent from the pirate bay, i suggest not downloading from them again and no this is not another one of them scams saying stop torrenting coz it's bad just torrent from somewhere else. a great program to use is "bit che" just google it, it searches like 30 different torrent sites for the torrent u want but dont download off of sumotorrent or torrentportal coz the files may aswell be called didyouaskforencodedporn?wellyougotitlol.f***you... if someone else has had this email sent to them please get back to me.

private >>>> public torrents

someone will undoubtebly say usenet >>> torrents

It's illegal to download movies like that, FYI.

piratebay is now a pay for moofies site

The problem was your computer was broadcasting an IP address

thanks for the protip.

what you mean i can be held accountable for my actions? This is outragous!

yuo are very bad at torrenting (CammoCablamo)

This isn't my problem, if some website has a click here to download free movie, then i'm just following instructions...

why is the government punishing me for torrenting? I BLAME THE GOVERNMENT.

Eminem told me to download the audio in mp3!! ... I blame rap music!

but if it was a liberal government than you'd thank them for taking a s*** on your face, AMIRITE INFI?



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i wish usenet could be dumbed down a bit for noobs like me

it really isn't hard.....

If you're not using both PeerGuardian and SafePeer, you're doing it wrong.

it's not simple at the same time.

i just dont know what the good usenet sites are.

they are the ones you pay for

Torrenting makes baby jesus cry

Ewww at using Azureus.

l2demonoid and thank tpg for my 150 gig limit.

you can't get dumber and easier to use than easynews.com - it has a full web interface so you don't even need a news client

yea or get grabit and find a decent newz site. no harder than using any torrent client / tracker.

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i do not understand the pricing for that easynews

the Liberals would never restritct our torrenting liberties...Freedom, Liberte!

If you're not using both PeerGuardian and SafePeer, you're doing it wrong.

I have used Peergardian and haven't had any repercussions

this is great, mods are sleeping.

Peergaurdian isn't gonna mask your IP so they can't tell what torrents you're leeching.

how do people even get on private trackers?


can someone send me secret codez?

Peerguardian doesn't work in windows 7 :(

But theres block lists you can download and load into uTorrent which do basically the same thing.

qgl is the new pirate bay

what isp u with
?

Go back to school and learn how to construct a sentence. My head exploded from the frustration of trying to read the OP.

Delete this spam already, he's just advertising 'bit che'.

pinky he edited his post to add that bit in

that might just mean he sucks at advertising

how do people even get on private trackers?


can someone send me secret codez?

i would say that you would have to be invited by an existing member who has an invitation to offer you.
i'd dare say that you would have to keep your share ratio up so strangers would be relunctant to give you an invite. if your account is dogs balls then they can suffer for inviting you in the 1st place.
and friends would be reluctant because they know what a leeching snatcher you are.
best bet, 'take your ass down to blockbuster, and hire your ass a video' !!!!!

Contact your ISP and tell them if they send you another one you will cancel your account.

it's not simple at the same time.

i just dont know what the good usenet sites are.

Usenet is incredibly easy to use, you just have to pay for a decent service. Well worth it imo.

Peergaurdian isn't gonna mask your IP so they can't tell what torrents you're leeching.

o rly?

and what pray tell should one use if one wanted to mask said ip?

just for s***s ands giggles you understand...

Dunno. I'm sure it's prolly something complicated. If it wasn't you could do whatever the hell you wanted on the net without fear of being caught.

Peerguardian does protect your IP from torrent applications attempting to connect to your computer from other users - but it doesn't protect your IP from the tracker. By definition of the torrent protocol you have to connect to a tracker to find other users, then connect to those users to download the file parts.

Anti-piracy companies are monitoring the public trackers. If your computer requests tracking information for the file 'Terminator Salvation.avi' for example, the anti-piracy interests will send your ISP a copyright infringement notice.

What is not clear to me is how far the anti-piracy companies go to ensure that the requested file is actually copyrighted material (just because it's called xxxx.avi doesn't mean that it is xxxx). Also, is a connection to a tracker enough to prosecute?

Then there's the issue of sharing (distribution). Your IP is listed on the tracker as a source for a file - but it doesn't mean that anyone can connect to your computer to get that file. You could have a firewall blocking all incoming ports, for example.

So there is a ridiculous amount of untested grey area, legally speaking. I think it's going to be the big 'iiNet' type court cases that will determine the future of torrents. It's unfortunate if piracy kills the torrent protocol because I think it's a great decentralised downloading system that can only help to spread out the internet from key nodes and increase the speed and reliability in general. I would like to see more sites embracing torrent downloads as preferable to downloading from their webserver.

If you don't want to get in trouble for breaking the law, don't break the law.

I thought it was generally the sharing of the data and the distribution angle that they busted people for, not so much the downloading but the fact you're uploading to other people at the same time and hence distributing it yourself. Thats where stuff like Peerguardian comes in, because it blocks the dodgy IP addresses and won't download data from them or upload data to them. Sure they could query a tracker and get your IP address, but without any proof that you're actually uploading or downloading anything I'd imagine they would have a hard time making a case.

without any proof that you're actually uploading or downloading anything I'd imagine they would have a hard time making a case.

If the prosecutor says you did it, then you did it. The judge isn't going to tolerate you trying to bulls*** some nerdy technicality that he doesn't appreciate. That's how judges are. He's going to the pub afterwards with the prosecutor, not with you.

If the prosecutor says you did it, then you did it. The judge isn't going to tolerate you trying to bulls*** some nerdy technicality that he doesn't appreciate. That's how judges are. He's going to the pub afterwards with the prosecutor, not with you.

Fail at understanding of legal proceedings.

The Judge would give a lengthy talk to the jury (public representation) about the law involved and the issues with finding the defendant guilty or not guilty. A case like this would be used to test one or more specific aspects of copyright law in order to set a precedent for future cases.

Contrary to your statement, such a case would be very very precise and technical.

wow thermite you're an idiot

In my opinion it all depends on the site that you're downloading from. If you look at it and feel that it's dodgy (i.e. possible government front) then trust your gut. I only have a couple of torrent sites that i use and have been using for years. If you're scared about the whole public torrent sites then i suggest that you sign up for ones that offer invitational only memberships. Although you'll have to remember that upload/download ratios will come into account.

In my opinion it all depends on the site that you're downloading from. If you look at it and feel that it's dodgy (i.e. possible government front) then trust your gut. I only have a couple of torrent sites that i use and have been using for years. If you're scared about the whole public torrent sites then i suggest that you sign up for ones that offer invitational only memberships. Although you'll have to remember that upload/download ratios will come into account.

It's not governments trying to catch people. It's the mega-rich movie studios lawyers. They hire firms who spend their whole time trying to find IP's that are downloading/sharing movies so they can attempt to screw them.

ok time for that Pic again.




http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/ggb777/piracy.jpg

Pinky, Mr Hardware - have you been in a situation like this before? I have. I gave a lengthy testimony and nothing the prosecution said made sense - I pointed out the wrongness of everything they said. The judge gives no talk - the judge hardly talks at all. All I heard him say was "I don't see how the police could be wrong" or something like that. I didn't even hear if I was guilty/not guilty at the end - couldn't actually hear what the judge had said. Took me 2 weeks to find out when they sent me a letter saying to pay a fine. The judge and prosecutor were co-workers, in the same building, I don't see how this could ever go fairly.

So contrary to your statements - you're both naiive and don't understand the purpose of the courts or how society works.

Well... Mr Hardware. Once again. You never have anything to argue other than to spurt unfounded insults. Please see the forum guidelines.

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What is not clear to me is how far the anti-piracy companies go to ensure that the requested file is actually copyrighted material (just because it's called xxxx.avi doesn't mean that it is xxxx). Also, is a connection to a tracker enough to prosecute?

This is why I don't get why people think newsgroups are safer. I mean currently they are safer because there isn't as much interest in them from the MPAA and such however unlike a group like TPB who never actually have any of the offending material on their servers newsgroups host the files themselves. If TPB can be done for hosting files that link to files that may or may not be what they claim to be then surely if the MPAA ever went after a newsgroup service they would be proper f***ed.



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I'm fairly certain the combined value of the contents of every qgl (ausgamers?) poster's hard drive would exceed the gross world product by a fair amount.

As a consumer this is brilliant, any content I want for the cost of a standard broadband connection.

From a business perspective it's pretty astounding that such rampant piracy and blatant, publicly flaunted breaches of copyright and IP has been allowed to flourish and indeed become a profitable business for a lot of people. There's definitely going to be a lot of movement on this in the coming years.

On a side note, you're stupid for using public torrents for your day to day stuff. Sites like demonoid are not private. Applications like peer guardian do not protect you from anything, you're still reporting to the tracker that you have x amount of y file, they only need to query the trackers.

Newsgroups are considered safer than public trackers because you use encrypted connection to connect to the news server, the news server company claims it logs no more than is required to bill you or protect itself from you spamming, and they believe they are protected by common carrier protections like telephone companies and the postal service

news server companies have handed over user records to the US law enforcement in the past to do with child pornography, worms and valve. These known events involve the uploader to news servers, not downloaders.

I've never heard of a newsgroup downloader getting a c&d letter.

So pretty much use torrents until you get a C&D letter, then switch to newsgroups. haha

Pinky, Mr Hardware - have you been in a situation like this before? I have. I gave a lengthy testimony and nothing the prosecution said made sense - I pointed out the wrongness of everything they said. The judge gives no talk - the judge hardly talks at all. All I heard him say was "I don't see how the police could be wrong" or something like that. I didn't even hear if I was guilty/not guilty at the end - couldn't actually hear what the judge had said.

gold
just gold

So contrary to your statements - you're both naiive and don't understand the purpose of the courts or how society works.

this is like icing on a cake made of gold, but instead of icing, it's gold

that's thermite.

if the courts are as corrupt as you claim they are thermite then gordon nuttall would be a free man. he would have just had a beer with the judge and walk away scott free.

Sweet. If I need a defense in a court case, pffft to lawyer, I'm bringing a slab of beer for the judge!

Well, contrary to your contrariness I actually do have experience in court cases relating to engineering and traffic offenses. I have also had experience with Jury Service in County Court, although I didn't make the final Jury selection I heard that case and experienced quite a bit of the legal proceedings of what was a complex case.

On top of that I lunch with my lawyer every other Thursday.

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