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Topic: iTunes question
MoGs
Posts: 693
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Am trying to add a music directory from a portable device to itunes but unfortunately it doesn't allow to add the directory, rather it asks for me to add the folders singularly. Am i doing something wrong? Is there an easier way to add this directory?
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tequila
Posts: 2657
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just drag it to the "my music" icon in itunes?
works from here..

this is why i hate itunes btw, its not intuitive
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27410
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
A directory is a folder?
Hogfather
Posts: 3096
Location: Cairns, Queensland
In computing, a directory, folder,[1] catalog, or drawer[2] is a virtual container within a digital file system, in which groups of files and other directories can be kept and organized.
MoGs
Posts: 694
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
a directory that holds music folders in it trog. So really i just want all the subfolders to display in itunes...

tequila you recommend any other programs instead? Winamp? Sonic? Foobar?
Hogfather
Posts: 3097
Location: Cairns, Queensland
trog is just being argumentative, he knew what you meant.

I really don't understand our beloved bandana boy lately, he is so angsty and contrary.

Are you taking the drugs trog? Do we need to hold an intervention?
MoGs
Posts: 695
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol @ hogfather

Doesn't trog wear the bandana to hide the drugs? An intervention ... bahahahah.
VRBones
Posts: 865
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
He hides his drugs in the bandana ... oh wait, no ... that's the EEG gel ...
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27411
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

trog is just being argumentative, he knew what you meant.
No I didn't, I wasn't sure if it was a typo and he meant 'files', not folders

So you want to add a parent directory which contains other directories which contain a bunch of files?

I seem to be able to drag my 'mp3' directory (which has that sort of thing) into my iTunes. Are you drag/dropping or using some 'add folder' menu item?
MoGs
Posts: 696
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I try both options but it's not allowing me to continue ... will check again.
sparrow
Posts: 469
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Sounds like he needs to get laid.

Also, agree 100% with teq about itunes being unintuitive, I have spent the last two nights fighting with itunes, finally trying to organise my music and update my ipod. After two days of this organisation process, trog mentions that I can drag and drop music straight onto my ipod without going thru the painful itunes syncing process. Talk about waste of time.
rubba-chikin
Posts: 6408
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've had itunes crap itself and just showed the not allowed icon thingy when attempting to drag tunes onto my iphone... had plenty of free space no idea what its problem was.

Closed and reopened itunes and it worked again *shrug*

Presumably you've tried something as simple as that already... hopefully.
BillyHardball
Posts: 9398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ugh... in terms of intuitiveness

1) label mp3s correctly or gtfo
2) don't mistake "intuitive" with "what I have learned other programs can do"
3) rtfm

This applies to a lot more than just iTunes.

On topic: Highlight all the subfolders and drag/drop in iTunes?? Alternatively, in the same directory you want to put in iTunes, just create a folder called "music" and cut/paste all the subfolders in there.
MoGs
Posts: 697
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thanks Billy i'll try that.
Mantorok
Posts: 3578
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
don't mistake "intuitive" with "what I have learned other programs can do"
Isn't it intuitive for a Windows application to behave like every other Windows application?
BillyHardball
Posts: 9400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not sure if I understand the question, but the obvious answer it iTunes isn't a Windows application...
demon
Posts: 4463
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it is confusing when people use 'directory' & 'folder' in the same sentence... they're the same thing but when you use 2 different terms in the same sentence it makes it look like you mean a different meaning for directory... which can be more than a file partition.
Mantorok
Posts: 3579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but the obvious answer it iTunes isn't a Windows application
Funny, I could've sworn there was iTunes for Windows.
I was a teenage hand model
Posts: 265
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You guys are way off. It's a secret lab where they take the brains out of zombies and put 'em in the heads of other zombies to create a race of super zombies.
Chakas
Posts: 2824
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It all makes so much sense now...
MoGs
Posts: 698
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Drag and drop worked. Cheers fellas.
Joanna
Posts: 1252
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I really don't understand our beloved bandana boy lately, he is so angsty and contrary.


Totally... Goes on his power trips too, removing threads just because he doesn't like the content.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27414
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Lies!

Except that MJ ghost thread. But that was completely justified.
BillyHardball
Posts: 9401
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Funny, I could've sworn there was iTunes for Windows.

Why would you expect something made by Apple to operate the same way as Microsoft programs? Just because you can use it in Windows doesn't mean that it automatically should operate the same as other programs.
Mantorok
Posts: 3580
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Why would you expect something made by Apple to operate the same way as Microsoft programs? Just because you can use it in Windows doesn't mean that it automatically should operate the same as other programs.
I don't expect it to behave like MS programs, I expect it to behave like every other application written for Windows regardless of who developed it. No-one has these sorts of complaints about Adobe software.
TicMan
Posts: 4852
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
iTunesFolderWatch is also pretty handy
3dee
Posts: 3938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
regardless of who developed it.

We are talking about Apple here...
whoop
Posts: 14189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Does iTunes work any differently on a Mac? I'm just curious if maybe Apple have crippled it in some way or changed the way it behaves.
3dee
Posts: 3940
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
iTunes on Mac works and looks very very similar but I think iTunes is too much of a port to Windows (they even use NIB files for the interfaces / windows, not a more supported format on Windows).

The other thing is that Windows kinda sucks for custom drawing whole entire programs with full on reskinning unless you do it really well.
simul
Posts: 527
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Does iTunes work any differently on a Mac? I'm just curious if maybe Apple have crippled it in some way or changed the way it behaves.


Nah, its close to the same as on the mac interaction wise. Its just on osx you can copy things around and between programs via drag and drop between them, which isn't that common in windows environment. I tend to agree they should make it fit in with the windows environment a lot better, at least to fit in with how the windows interaction works.

To be fair though, exactly the same can be said for Microsoft on OS-X though: MSN Messenger, MS Office and all the other OS-X M$ programs are amazingly dodgy and such a freaking awful interface even compared to their windows counterparts.
Hogfather
Posts: 3106
Location: Cairns, Queensland

The other thing is that Windows kinda sucks for custom drawing whole entire programs with full on reskinning unless you do it really well.

I have no idea what this sentence means.
3dee
Posts: 3950
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Got to do with programming...

Essentially, instead of just letting Windows do its own highly optimised window drawing (rendering to screen), iTunes has to override this and paint everything itself and if not done efficiently, can lag the app and sometimes not work properly.

Obviously on Mac, the iTunes UI is just the native operating system styling and doesn't have to "owner draw" (as its called in Windows).

last edited by 3dee at 09:34:37 09/Jul/09
redroses
Posts: 1
Location: Mackay, Queensland

Thanks for replying, everyone. It appears we have a decent cross-section of people here and a lot of well thought-out discussion.
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Hogfather
Posts: 3218
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Ignoring the spam, I missed your last comment there 3dee!

It sounds like you are just saying that Apple sucks at Windows development?
BillyHardball
Posts: 9477
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That's why I'm switching to a Mac.
3dee
Posts: 4096
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It sounds like you are just saying that Apple sucks at Windows development?

Quite possibly. Its just that Owner Drawn applications often are worse than just letting Windows do its thang.
Midda
Posts: 3774
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think Apple intentionally make their software do retarded things, because they know that if they get the majority market share, people will start making virus for Mac, and people will wonder why they left Windows.

True story.
Hogfather
Posts: 3220
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Nah, I don't think its the owner draw stuff at all that makes iTunes so slow. Its just s***ty (absent) programming of worker threads interfering with the interface. An example:

1. Plug in your iPhone.
2. Click on it in iTunes.

What happens? The interface hangs for a few seconds while the app interrogates the connection to the phone and gets all the information it needs to display the details screen.

There is no user feedback that the click has been successful or is doing ANYTHING until the task is complete - not even a simple change in selection in the tree. This makes the app feel like an unresponsive, sluggish piece of s***- despite the operation itself being completed pretty quickly!

I am 96.3% sure that this is because the work associated with the click event is being directly handled by the interface event thread (the OnClick event in .Net terms).

I run a tiny development house and I wouldn't send an $8,000 application to a client that behaved like that. I'd be too embarrassed to stick our logo on it when the solution is so simple.

last edited by Hogfather at 14:52:54 27/Jul/09
3dee
Posts: 4097
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah iTunes could be seriously optimised on both platforms. It does that modal PnP detection on Mac too ><
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