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Topic: Dear Adobe
thermite
Posts: 231
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Could you make Adobe Reader start up slower? I'd like to have enough time to go get a sandwich before I read a one page document.



Adobe Updater is the single worst piece of software I have ever seen. Please f*** off with that.



Get your f***ing installers sorted out. Why do i need to CLOSE MY BROWSER to install a graphics app? I'm doing s*** with my browser, you know, during the tedious wait for your installer to finish.



Mouse wheel. Learn what it is.



Do you think its smart to put the names of the developers up when the product is taking forever to load?



I installed Acrobat 7, then had to restart my computer six times in a row -- once for each patch. It is not 2001. This kind of bulls*** is no longer acceptable.



Have you ever heard of consistency? Your users are designers, and are very keen on it…Just a suggestion.


http://dearadobe.com/

Also, dear QGL, don't tell me to buy a Magnum ice cream half way through typing a post in such a way that hitting 'enter' to create a line break in my post causes the advertisement to be clicked on. rawr
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Spook
Posts: 22598
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i quite like pdf as a format

its very nice looking and usually quite small in size
TicMan
Posts: 3653
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dear Adobe,

MAKE A MOBILE VERSION OF FLASH YOU c***S.

Love,
Everyone in the world with a mobile.
Minxy
Posts: 672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Man I hate pdf when trying to get research for uni assignments
Le Cock
Posts: 4815
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Agree on how slow the new adobe reader is.

thermite
Posts: 233
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was shocked, 8 years ago, to discover that PDF format was some kind of 'standard' for documents at University. I couldn't open them, I couldn't make them. But everytime they gave you a document or wanted you to submit a document it had to be a PDF. So all my asssignments had "Made with PDF Wizard 30 day trial ©" splashed across the document.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.infactah.com/uploaded_images/pdf-716986.gif
Jim
Posts: 8583
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was shocked, 8 years ago, to discover that PDF format was some kind of 'standard' for documents at University. I couldn't open them, I couldn't make them.
why not?
Raven
Posts: 3006
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
MAKE A MOBILE VERSION OF FLASH YOU c***S.

Woahhh... you're from... the past?

Flash Lite has been around since 2005.


How about:

Dear Adobe,

Contrary to what you may believe, 1 US Dollar does not equal 16 Australian Dollars. Fix your international prices, you greedy, money grabbing, price fixing a******s.

Sincerely,

Flex developer.
TicMan
Posts: 3654
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Woahhh... you're from... the past?


Flash Lite doesn't support Flash 9 so it's still a piece of s***.
thermite
Posts: 235
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jim, no software for it. I can create doc, rtf, html - most computers in the world can. So why do assignments have to be in a private format, that you can't edit, owned by one American corporation? Doesn't make sense.
It's also very hard to work with to get information from. It's like visiting a website with right-click disabled.
giririsss
Posts: 2957
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
most pdf's can be made easily, they cannot how ever, be edited easily. Look at the myriad of free pdf creaters.

That said, it's been easy to copy and paste from pdf to anything, for years. so no idea what your problem there is. they're even searchable now from search engines.
3dee
Posts: 2419
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dear Adobe,

Please allowing saving of Flash vectors drawings to Photoshop vectors drawings. Please tell me if this already exists lol.

Sincerely,

Ease-of-flash-vector-drawing-liking-photoshop-user...?
3dee
Posts: 2420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dear Adobe,

Contrary to what you may believe, 1 US Dollar does not equal 16 Australian Dollars. Fix your international prices, you greedy, money grabbing, price fixing a******s.

Sincerely,

Flex developer.

Nah that looks about right. /sarcasm...

Flex Builder Pro on Adobe Store
$1069AU
$699US

Oh and that $1069 is for the download. To get it posted is $1175... Over 100 bucks to post a small software box?????
Raven
Posts: 3007
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
It was even worse a few months ago when AUD1.00=USD0.96
thermite
Posts: 237
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so no idea what your problem there is.


If I remember when I get home, I'll dig out a PDF file from UQ I came across just last week that I couldn't highlight/select text in.

I think a lot of PDF documents are just a big bitmap or something.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thermite, depending on how the author sets up a pdf file depends on what you can do with it. you can lock it down, and make it act like a big bitmap if you will, just at much smaller a size. as for creating pdfs look at cutepdf, pdfcreator, primopdf etc.
thermite
Posts: 238
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah thanks for the advice, very relevant now 8 years later....
Mr Hardware
Posts: 3566
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no worries bra
demon
Posts: 3649
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe uni's chose pdf format to try & limit copy'n'paste plagiarism ;p

i've never had much problems with the pdf format myself. macromedia freehand usually opens them as fully editable files. just about all progs i use these days has a 'publish to pdf' option.
parabol
Posts: 4738
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For those of you who find Foxit can't render some of your more hardcore PDFs:

Use the light[er]-weight Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 Standalone purely for reading, the bloatier Acrobat 8.0 Pro for creating .. installed side by side. That way at least you don't have to wait 20 seconds to merely read a fkn PDF.

Piece of s*** Adobe. Also their UN-installers take longer to run than the installer.
Farseeker
Posts: 1437
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yep, Adobe Reader sucks. PDF as a standard rocks though, so I don't understand the complaints about it.. open ISO standard, selectable, searchable, compact, displays and prints consistently. It's basically just postscript (printer speak) + embedded fonts and images. The best PDF reader around is Preview.

If you're against PDF, I guess the alternative is .doc. - a proprietary format that requires Word - what, a ~$400 application? Unis should release as much of their stuff in open standard formats I reckon. As far as I can tell, Griffith nor QUT have a policy anything like it.

So Adobe... They've got a new Creative Suite coming by the end of the year... here's hoping it's slimmed down and mind-blowingly awesome. Will it happen? Probably not. They're just too big.
Minxy
Posts: 673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
All the "scholarly articles" or journal articles etc I find for uni are pdf, where I can't copy and paste important quotes/info or search for particular words in a document. It s***s me. Tried downloading pdf to word converter but most of the ones I've used so far have been useless
simul
Posts: 299
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dear Adobe,

Please change your pathetic 1 computer activation policy on CS3. I am sick of having to crack my legit copy of cs3 because I first activated it on a computer which is now broken. Whats the point in buying software if you have to crack it anyway to get it to work?

PS. Preview FTW
mooby
Posts: 4219
Location: UK
cant belive im posting to hunters thread but.... dear adobe, make an IE7 64bit flash player.
parabol
Posts: 4741
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So Adobe... They've got a new Creative Suite coming by the end of the year... here's hoping it's slimmed down

Just the use of the word "Suite" hints at mega-bloat.
Spook
Posts: 22599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mmmm, postscript
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I am sick of having to crack my legit copy of cs3 because I first activated it on a computer which is now broken. Whats the point in buying software if you have to crack it anyway to get it to work?

Have you even tried contacting your vendor to resolve the issue? If you're polite and professional about it, they might issue you a new key or allow you to reactivate your old one and just ask you to sign a declaration.

People who complain about PDF format are noobs. It offers the best compatability of any document format, can be compressed to suit your needs and prints excellently. As said it's also an open format and has awesome colour reproduction and embedding etc. There's plenty of free PDF makers that are good. The only real difference with Adobe Acrobat PDF's is that it has better compression and a few extra features.

My only beef with Adobe is bloat, over pricing and stability issues in Windows (especially with Adobe Illustrator).
Skitza
Posts: 8498
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Reader 9 is much faster than 8 although they install f*****y bloatware with it now as well..you fags adobe, where is the option not to install extra s***!

ps I like pdf.
taggs
Posts: 2212
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hunters thread


whut?
Jim
Posts: 8587
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jim, no software for it. I can create doc, rtf, html - most computers in the world can. So why do assignments have to be in a private format, that you can't edit, owned by one American corporation?
what's private about pdf though? adobe has patents on it but it's licensed free as long as the editing software complies with the standard. I just don't get why you perceive it as some locked format that you have to buy editors for. are you implying that all other pdf editors are too inferior to adobe's to be feasible?
sif greazy
Posts: 720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well them Jim whats a good free pdf editor?
simul
Posts: 300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Have you even tried contacting your vendor to resolve the issue? If you're polite and professional about it, they might issue you a new key or allow you to reactivate your old one and just ask you to sign a declaration.


No I haven't, purely because of time currently. It's not really a big issue, its just annoying that the trend of legal software is that you have to do all these steps to prove your authenticity (call me a hippie). Case in point would be Spore, DRM all over the thing, but it got cracked before it got released anyway, and the crack makes the setup process a lot easier. Its kind of like the old wives tale of "I finally bought a movie legally. I put it in and the first thing I got was an anti-piracy ad. I took it back to the shop and downloaded a version without the ad."
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2301
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have had node locked software from a few vendors stuck on dead machines before and could usually get it freed up in a day or 2. It's usually just a matter of: call their tech department -> give details of license/machine/company -> wait a day or 2 -> they call back to say the license has been freed up. But, then, the government isn't really into stealing software, so I guess I have it a bit easier. I usually find it helps to be thorough and give at least a computer name or something.

Also, what edition of CS3 do you have? Corporate edition doesn't have any kind of activation/node locking system. The education copy I have doesn't try to activate or lock either.
Jim
Posts: 8588
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well them Jim whats a good free pdf editor?
open office is ok
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 24827
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That's not an editor though is it? You can only publish to PDF with it, not edit existing PDF documents.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I tend to avoid editing PDF's. I find it's better to keep an open office/photoshop/in design/etc file as a working copy and just PDF it for publishing purposes.
Jim
Posts: 8589
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe you can't edit existing pdf's I never tried
you can definitely create or open a doc and save it as pdf, I've done it plenty of times

and let's say openoffice was the only other option in the universe available other than adobe's pay-for software, does that really support what thermite is saying about the pdf standard?
ccl
Posts: 190
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I use pdfedit (OS's ending in X only) when I need to delve into one.

In general (not everytime) I find that if one needs to edit a pdf, one of two things is true:

- The person who supplied the pdf is a dick
- You're doing it wrong.

Aside from editing, there are a ton of pdf creators. Openoffice, pdflatex. There are a million pdf thingamajigs on linux. It's really just windows that is gimped because office hasn't been able to export pdf (until now?).

last edited by ccl at 23:07:07 15/Sep/08
Farseeker
Posts: 1438
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ccl speaks the truth. If you have to, you can edit one page of a multi-page PDF in Illustrator pretty easily. When you open the PDF, choose the page to edit and re-save the original it keeps the multi-page PDF intact with your changes. I've seen people make edits in Acrobat Professional - Advanced Editing tools or something, it was pretty retarded though.

And of course opening in Illustrator is a way of pulling images/paths/whatever out of PDFs when you don't have the source files.
simul
Posts: 302
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have had node locked software from a few vendors stuck on dead machines before and could usually get it freed up in a day or 2. It's usually just a matter of: call their tech department -> give details of license/machine/company -> wait a day or 2 -> they call back to say the license has been freed up. But, then, the government isn't really into stealing software, so I guess I have it a bit easier. I usually find it helps to be thorough and give at least a computer name or something.

Also, what edition of CS3 do you have? Corporate edition doesn't have any kind of activation/node locking system. The education copy I have doesn't try to activate or lock either.


CS3 Master retail. Its not really a big deal, its more just a rant that these days its simpler and faster to install a pirated copy of software than a legit copy of software. Thanks for the info though, I might give it a shot tomorrow, I have been putting it off because the new laptop I am on at the moment is really just temporary until the new MBP's come out, so I am going to have to do the same thing again.
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