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thermite
Posts: 231
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Could you make Adobe Reader start up slower? I'd like to have enough time to go get a sandwich before I read a one page document. Adobe Updater is the single worst piece of software I have ever seen. Please f*** off with that. Get your f***ing installers sorted out. Why do i need to CLOSE MY BROWSER to install a graphics app? I'm doing s*** with my browser, you know, during the tedious wait for your installer to finish. Mouse wheel. Learn what it is. Do you think its smart to put the names of the developers up when the product is taking forever to load? I installed Acrobat 7, then had to restart my computer six times in a row -- once for each patch. It is not 2001. This kind of bulls*** is no longer acceptable. Have you ever heard of consistency? Your users are designers, and are very keen on it…Just a suggestion. http://dearadobe.com/ Also, dear QGL, don't tell me to buy a Magnum ice cream half way through typing a post in such a way that hitting 'enter' to create a line break in my post causes the advertisement to be clicked on. rawr |
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| #0 02:16pm 15/09/08 |
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Spook
Posts: 22598
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i quite like pdf as a format
its very nice looking and usually quite small in size |
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| #1 02:21pm 15/09/08 |
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TicMan
Posts: 3653
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Dear Adobe,
MAKE A MOBILE VERSION OF FLASH YOU c***S. Love, Everyone in the world with a mobile. |
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| #2 02:24pm 15/09/08 |
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Minxy
Posts: 672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Man I hate pdf when trying to get research for uni assignments
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| #3 02:26pm 15/09/08 |
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Le Cock
Posts: 4815
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Agree on how slow the new adobe reader is.
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| #4 02:36pm 15/09/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 233
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I was shocked, 8 years ago, to discover that PDF format was some kind of 'standard' for documents at University. I couldn't open them, I couldn't make them. But everytime they gave you a document or wanted you to submit a document it had to be a PDF. So all my asssignments had "Made with PDF Wizard 30 day trial ©" splashed across the document.
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| #5 02:37pm 15/09/08 |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 3563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #6 02:38pm 15/09/08 |
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Jim
Posts: 8583
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I was shocked, 8 years ago, to discover that PDF format was some kind of 'standard' for documents at University. I couldn't open them, I couldn't make them.why not? |
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| #7 02:44pm 15/09/08 |
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Raven
Posts: 3006
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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MAKE A MOBILE VERSION OF FLASH YOU c***S. Woahhh... you're from... the past? Flash Lite has been around since 2005. How about: Dear Adobe, Contrary to what you may believe, 1 US Dollar does not equal 16 Australian Dollars. Fix your international prices, you greedy, money grabbing, price fixing a******s. Sincerely, Flex developer. |
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| #8 02:53pm 15/09/08 |
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TicMan
Posts: 3654
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Woahhh... you're from... the past? Flash Lite doesn't support Flash 9 so it's still a piece of s***. |
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| #9 03:29pm 15/09/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 235
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Jim, no software for it. I can create doc, rtf, html - most computers in the world can. So why do assignments have to be in a private format, that you can't edit, owned by one American corporation? Doesn't make sense.
It's also very hard to work with to get information from. It's like visiting a website with right-click disabled. |
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| #10 03:43pm 15/09/08 |
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giririsss
Posts: 2957
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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most pdf's can be made easily, they cannot how ever, be edited easily. Look at the myriad of free pdf creaters.
That said, it's been easy to copy and paste from pdf to anything, for years. so no idea what your problem there is. they're even searchable now from search engines. |
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| #11 03:48pm 15/09/08 |
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3dee
Posts: 2419
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Dear Adobe,
Please allowing saving of Flash vectors drawings to Photoshop vectors drawings. Please tell me if this already exists lol. Sincerely, Ease-of-flash-vector-drawing-liking-photoshop-user...? |
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| #12 03:56pm 15/09/08 |
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3dee
Posts: 2420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Dear Adobe, Nah that looks about right. /sarcasm... Flex Builder Pro on Adobe Store $1069AU $699US Oh and that $1069 is for the download. To get it posted is $1175... Over 100 bucks to post a small software box????? |
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| #13 04:04pm 15/09/08 |
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Raven
Posts: 3007
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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It was even worse a few months ago when AUD1.00=USD0.96
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| #14 04:10pm 15/09/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 237
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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so no idea what your problem there is. If I remember when I get home, I'll dig out a PDF file from UQ I came across just last week that I couldn't highlight/select text in. I think a lot of PDF documents are just a big bitmap or something. |
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| #15 04:12pm 15/09/08 |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 3565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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thermite, depending on how the author sets up a pdf file depends on what you can do with it. you can lock it down, and make it act like a big bitmap if you will, just at much smaller a size. as for creating pdfs look at cutepdf, pdfcreator, primopdf etc.
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| #16 04:18pm 15/09/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 238
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah thanks for the advice, very relevant now 8 years later....
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| #17 04:21pm 15/09/08 |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 3566
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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no worries bra
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| #18 04:26pm 15/09/08 |
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demon
Posts: 3649
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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maybe uni's chose pdf format to try & limit copy'n'paste plagiarism ;p
i've never had much problems with the pdf format myself. macromedia freehand usually opens them as fully editable files. just about all progs i use these days has a 'publish to pdf' option. |
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| #19 04:26pm 15/09/08 |
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parabol
Posts: 4738
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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For those of you who find Foxit can't render some of your more hardcore PDFs:
Use the light[er]-weight Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 Standalone purely for reading, the bloatier Acrobat 8.0 Pro for creating .. installed side by side. That way at least you don't have to wait 20 seconds to merely read a fkn PDF. Piece of s*** Adobe. Also their UN-installers take longer to run than the installer. |
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| #20 04:27pm 15/09/08 |
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Farseeker
Posts: 1437
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yep, Adobe Reader sucks. PDF as a standard rocks though, so I don't understand the complaints about it.. open ISO standard, selectable, searchable, compact, displays and prints consistently. It's basically just postscript (printer speak) + embedded fonts and images. The best PDF reader around is Preview.
If you're against PDF, I guess the alternative is .doc. - a proprietary format that requires Word - what, a ~$400 application? Unis should release as much of their stuff in open standard formats I reckon. As far as I can tell, Griffith nor QUT have a policy anything like it. So Adobe... They've got a new Creative Suite coming by the end of the year... here's hoping it's slimmed down and mind-blowingly awesome. Will it happen? Probably not. They're just too big. |
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| #21 04:43pm 15/09/08 |
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Minxy
Posts: 673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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All the "scholarly articles" or journal articles etc I find for uni are pdf, where I can't copy and paste important quotes/info or search for particular words in a document. It s***s me. Tried downloading pdf to word converter but most of the ones I've used so far have been useless
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| #22 05:39pm 15/09/08 |
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simul
Posts: 299
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Dear Adobe,
Please change your pathetic 1 computer activation policy on CS3. I am sick of having to crack my legit copy of cs3 because I first activated it on a computer which is now broken. Whats the point in buying software if you have to crack it anyway to get it to work? PS. Preview FTW |
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| #23 05:42pm 15/09/08 |
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mooby
Posts: 4219
Location: UK
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cant belive im posting to hunters thread but.... dear adobe, make an IE7 64bit flash player.
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parabol
Posts: 4741
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So Adobe... They've got a new Creative Suite coming by the end of the year... here's hoping it's slimmed down Just the use of the word "Suite" hints at mega-bloat. |
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Spook
Posts: 22599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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mmmm, postscript
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I am sick of having to crack my legit copy of cs3 because I first activated it on a computer which is now broken. Whats the point in buying software if you have to crack it anyway to get it to work? Have you even tried contacting your vendor to resolve the issue? If you're polite and professional about it, they might issue you a new key or allow you to reactivate your old one and just ask you to sign a declaration. People who complain about PDF format are noobs. It offers the best compatability of any document format, can be compressed to suit your needs and prints excellently. As said it's also an open format and has awesome colour reproduction and embedding etc. There's plenty of free PDF makers that are good. The only real difference with Adobe Acrobat PDF's is that it has better compression and a few extra features. My only beef with Adobe is bloat, over pricing and stability issues in Windows (especially with Adobe Illustrator). |
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Skitza
Posts: 8498
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Reader 9 is much faster than 8 although they install f*****y bloatware with it now as well..you fags adobe, where is the option not to install extra s***!
ps I like pdf. |
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| #28 08:38pm 15/09/08 |
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taggs
Posts: 2212
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hunters thread whut? |
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| #29 08:53pm 15/09/08 |
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Jim
Posts: 8587
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Jim, no software for it. I can create doc, rtf, html - most computers in the world can. So why do assignments have to be in a private format, that you can't edit, owned by one American corporation?what's private about pdf though? adobe has patents on it but it's licensed free as long as the editing software complies with the standard. I just don't get why you perceive it as some locked format that you have to buy editors for. are you implying that all other pdf editors are too inferior to adobe's to be feasible? |
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sif greazy
Posts: 720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well them Jim whats a good free pdf editor?
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| #31 08:58pm 15/09/08 |
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simul
Posts: 300
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Have you even tried contacting your vendor to resolve the issue? If you're polite and professional about it, they might issue you a new key or allow you to reactivate your old one and just ask you to sign a declaration. No I haven't, purely because of time currently. It's not really a big issue, its just annoying that the trend of legal software is that you have to do all these steps to prove your authenticity (call me a hippie). Case in point would be Spore, DRM all over the thing, but it got cracked before it got released anyway, and the crack makes the setup process a lot easier. Its kind of like the old wives tale of "I finally bought a movie legally. I put it in and the first thing I got was an anti-piracy ad. I took it back to the shop and downloaded a version without the ad." |
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| #32 09:13pm 15/09/08 |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2301
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I have had node locked software from a few vendors stuck on dead machines before and could usually get it freed up in a day or 2. It's usually just a matter of: call their tech department -> give details of license/machine/company -> wait a day or 2 -> they call back to say the license has been freed up. But, then, the government isn't really into stealing software, so I guess I have it a bit easier. I usually find it helps to be thorough and give at least a computer name or something.
Also, what edition of CS3 do you have? Corporate edition doesn't have any kind of activation/node locking system. The education copy I have doesn't try to activate or lock either. |
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Jim
Posts: 8588
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well them Jim whats a good free pdf editor?open office is ok |
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| #34 10:01pm 15/09/08 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 24827
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That's not an editor though is it? You can only publish to PDF with it, not edit existing PDF documents.
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| #35 10:12pm 15/09/08 |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I tend to avoid editing PDF's. I find it's better to keep an open office/photoshop/in design/etc file as a working copy and just PDF it for publishing purposes.
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Jim
Posts: 8589
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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maybe you can't edit existing pdf's I never tried
you can definitely create or open a doc and save it as pdf, I've done it plenty of times and let's say openoffice was the only other option in the universe available other than adobe's pay-for software, does that really support what thermite is saying about the pdf standard? |
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| #37 10:51pm 15/09/08 |
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ccl
Posts: 190
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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I use pdfedit (OS's ending in X only) when I need to delve into one.
In general (not everytime) I find that if one needs to edit a pdf, one of two things is true: - The person who supplied the pdf is a dick - You're doing it wrong. Aside from editing, there are a ton of pdf creators. Openoffice, pdflatex. There are a million pdf thingamajigs on linux. It's really just windows that is gimped because office hasn't been able to export pdf (until now?). last edited by ccl at 23:07:07 15/Sep/08 |
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Farseeker
Posts: 1438
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ccl speaks the truth. If you have to, you can edit one page of a multi-page PDF in Illustrator pretty easily. When you open the PDF, choose the page to edit and re-save the original it keeps the multi-page PDF intact with your changes. I've seen people make edits in Acrobat Professional - Advanced Editing tools or something, it was pretty retarded though.
And of course opening in Illustrator is a way of pulling images/paths/whatever out of PDFs when you don't have the source files. |
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simul
Posts: 302
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I have had node locked software from a few vendors stuck on dead machines before and could usually get it freed up in a day or 2. It's usually just a matter of: call their tech department -> give details of license/machine/company -> wait a day or 2 -> they call back to say the license has been freed up. But, then, the government isn't really into stealing software, so I guess I have it a bit easier. I usually find it helps to be thorough and give at least a computer name or something. CS3 Master retail. Its not really a big deal, its more just a rant that these days its simpler and faster to install a pirated copy of software than a legit copy of software. Thanks for the info though, I might give it a shot tomorrow, I have been putting it off because the new laptop I am on at the moment is really just temporary until the new MBP's come out, so I am going to have to do the same thing again. |
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