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mongie
Posts: 5483
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Microsoft get people to rate their "new OS" - Mojave...
Its actually vista. http://www.mojaveexperiment.com |
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| #0 09:43am 20/08/08 |
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exo
Posts: 8077
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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A carefully orchestrated PR exercise garners better results than everyday realworld examples? Well I never!
Lame. |
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| #1 12:02pm 20/08/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5484
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I think the point was, the people's dislike towards Vista has more to do with what they've "heard" than their own experiences.
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| #2 12:28pm 20/08/08 |
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Opec
Posts: 5213
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I reckon they should do the same experiment for Plasma vs LCD tvs
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| #3 12:29pm 20/08/08 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 6908
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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most of those people look like they wouldnt even know how to turn on a pc, let alone know anything about vista.
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| #4 12:31pm 20/08/08 |
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nF
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Posts: 14451
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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surely this proves the counter point though.
ie, that vista is a failure. when you need to do a stunt like this to promote a product. |
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| #5 12:34pm 20/08/08 |
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exo
Posts: 8078
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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than their own experiences. Sure, but this wasn't their own experience - this was Microsoft carefully exposing people to Vista in a controlled setting. This was a Microsoft-delivered experience, not a user's own experience. |
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| #6 12:35pm 20/08/08 |
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Scooter
Posts: 1428
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I couldn't stand hearing that tripe any longer so I closed it early.
Did they actually give it to the people to use at home/Work with various applications? Or only on their Demo laptop in the demonstration room? Had sound off aswell (at work) but did the people in question use computers for anything intense (lack of better word) or do they just use it as a word prossor/outlook. For a while we had the exact same computer specs as the Secretarys (with the exception of Dual Screens) for all our 3D point cloud work and Detail Survey reduction. We often had to wait ages (well ~5min) to rework a TIN which should only take mere seconds because of this. We now have Slightly better computers (and a whole 2GB of ram, which is apparently Massive amounts!) The point of this rambling is that if all they did was show off 'Perdy Buttons' on a beefed up machine of course it's going to look good and run smooth. 5min playing around in windows is a drop in the water compared to what makes a good OS. Unfortunatly our next upgrade (set for first quarter next year) is moving onto Vista with out any significant spec boost. Hopefully the SP's will be better for when we do. |
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| #7 12:38pm 20/08/08 |
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d0mino
Posts: 3376
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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remember everyone having a mega cry when xp was introduced? everyone was all 'windows 2000 for lyfe'.
history repeats itself. |
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| #8 12:42pm 20/08/08 |
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Scooter
Posts: 1429
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Could that have anything to do with the fact that XP was s*** when it was first introduced?
SP's ring any bells? |
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| #9 01:05pm 20/08/08 |
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demon
Posts: 3590
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i reckon most people's 'dislike' towards vista isn't from crappy experiences... it's coz it costs heaps, delivers f*** all & xp still does the job. it's kinda like expecting people to buy a new car of exactly the same model but it's a different colour & costs more.
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| #10 01:07pm 20/08/08 |
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Python
Posts: 210
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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red goes faster demon
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| #11 01:14pm 20/08/08 |
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nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14452
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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remember everyone having a mega cry when xp was introduced? everyone was all 'windows 2000 for lyfe'. i don't remember there being a experiment like this for xp. |
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| #12 01:15pm 20/08/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5485
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Everyone knows that there is a general distaste for the word "Vista". I didn't need this website to see it...
Yes Vista is similar to XP, but it is a far better OS. I find the XP gets slower and slower as you use it, while Vista stays quick for a long time. |
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| #13 01:19pm 20/08/08 |
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nF
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Posts: 14454
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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I find the XP gets slower and slower as you use it, while Vista is slow to begin with. |
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| #14 01:33pm 20/08/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 151
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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They should do like the "No more Whoppers thing" except "No more Windows"
customer: "Hi I'd like to buy Windows" sales guy: "Sorry we don't sell Windows anymore" customer: "that's fine.." |
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| #15 01:36pm 20/08/08 |
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Midda
Posts: 2612
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i don't remember there being a experiment like this for xp. There were also no where near as many people frequenting the internet when XP came out. Now with the internet a norm in every household, people's opinions spread like wildfire, valid or not. Not saying Vista is any better or worse, it's just something to consider. |
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| #16 01:40pm 20/08/08 |
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Kat
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The page takes ages to load.. much like vista
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| #17 01:45pm 20/08/08 |
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demon
Posts: 3591
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha a 'far better os' coz it 'stays faster, longer'... a carefully measured experiment in benchmarking i'm sure. you're on crack mongie.
i also find that xp slows down as you gunk it up with random programs n s***... but hey! it's xp... so i can just re-install it without any authentication bs... even on a different machine. |
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| #18 02:00pm 20/08/08 |
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eighty-eight
Posts: 866
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha mongie faster for longer? even though there was some test somewhere (wish i could find the link again) that xp sp3 is the fastest MS OS.
heres a post i made a while ago on here.
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| #19 02:11pm 20/08/08 |
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Spook
Posts: 22372
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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f***, i actually like vista and agree with mongie;
i must be wrong i find vista to be fast and stable as, once ive turned off all the gay no issues with drivers for anything (even old joypads), not even for 64bit drivers |
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| #20 02:25pm 20/08/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5486
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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so i can just re-install it without any authentication bs... even on a different machine. Um.. dude, XP has activation. |
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| #21 02:47pm 20/08/08 |
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thermite
Posts: 152
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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no microsoft product really requires a legit serial number - you can just ring them and they will give you one.
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Midda
Posts: 2613
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Vista Cons: Can't say I really agree at all. My system is over 3 years old, and is nice and snappy running Vista 64bit, as well as NEVER having a single hardware compatibility issue. The only software incompatibility I've encountered was when I tried to install Metal Gear Sold 2. I didn't bother trying to troubleshoot it. And browsing networks is WAY faster for me on Vista than it ever was on XP. Everything pops up almost as fast as browsing a local folder, which is more than I can say with my experiences with XP. Overall, I don't think Vista is better or worse than XP. I can understand people's hesitation to upgrade to Vista, as it doesn't offer much of an advancement, but I can't say I ever regretted installing it. |
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eighty-eight
Posts: 867
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah i never regret installing bloat.
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Spook
Posts: 22374
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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my computar is so powarful it eats up the bloat
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Martz
tubby
Posts: 1605
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I dunno what you guys are talking about, I purchased Vista 64bit Ultimate and have no issues apart from TF2 crashing sometimes on map changes which doesn't bother me as I usually play on static map servers. No compatability issues, everything works. Runs faster than my XP 32bit machine.
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mongie
Posts: 5487
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There isn't really any reason to use 64bit windows anyway - but yeah - there is no issue with speed or compatibility with Vista... especially post SP1.
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Martz
tubby
Posts: 1606
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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3+ GB of ram is cool though.
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nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 14456
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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There were also no where near as many people frequenting the internet when XP came out. Now with the internet a norm in every household, people's opinions spread like wildfire, valid or not. get f***ed, 2002 wasn't exactly the dark ages. |
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| #29 05:42pm 20/08/08 |
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Morgan
Posts: 3606
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Vista is fine. I didn't like it at first because features/things I'd want weren't where I wanted them to be, so it frustrated me. I turned off UAC and changed a few things around, it's find now. Rarely I find a program that I used on XP that doesn't work on vista.
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icewyrm
Posts: 2022
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The next windows will be different, and hated even more.
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parabol
Posts: 4658
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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remember everyone having a mega cry when xp was introduced? everyone was all 'windows 2000 for lyfe'. After a service pack or two, XP became very stable and grew in popularity. After SP1 Vista is still crap and hated as ever. Plus I don't remember there being so much talk about downgrading an OS as there has been with Vista->XP. The misleading "Vista Ready" crap on low-end hardware didn't help either. is nice and snappy running Vista 64bit, as well as NEVER having a single hardware compatibility issue. My audio glitched and skipped. It's easy to blame the manufacturer for "crap dirvers" but my Audigy 4 has run flawlessly in XP and Ubuntu. The audio problems are widespread too, not just for me. Oh and Vista x64's mandatory driver signing is complete and utter bulls***. I'm unable to install a couple of hardware drivers that are fundamentally x64 compatible ... only because the developers (open-source) didn't have the resources to go through the financial and developmental hurdles of MS driver signing. At least give the option of allowing the user to bypass signing .. fkn d*******s. |
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