Did this tonight a personal best 1 X 3 plate deadlift (140 kgs). This was done a the end of a one hour core strenght workout!

Worst camera angle for deadlifts ever! Hard to see your back, but looks like you gotta lot of bend in it, especially on the way down.

Yeah i try to resist as much as possible on the way back down! Still bent my legs though.

Edit:- How you going with your training Billy?

You don't put it above your head?

I'm doing well mate. I had a WEAK session just tonight... deadlifting 5x5 at 115kgs, trying to keep perfect form using sumo technique. Shoulder injury has prevented me from doing anything heavy on chest/shoulder exercises:(

For my 5x5 here's what I do:

Squats: 115kg (booyah! got my PB on Sunday!)

Deads: 115

BO Row: 75 (stopped adding weights cause my back is big enough)

Standing shoulderpress behind head: 52.5

Bench (decline to prevent shoulder pain, and I do heaps more reps and superset with dumbbells): 70kgs

Umm, do more than just one?

Ummm, hi sandy_sally question mark

Lightweight babbyyyy

Umm, do more than just one?

yer lets see you do more than one after an hour of core strength training.

Standing shoulderpress behind head: 52.5

egads! I hastily went from 20 to 25kg with the regular shoulder-press and ended up hurting my lower spine a bit. Been sitting at home for the last week waiting for it to get better.

I guess that's the price one pays for getting into it too quickly from a half-year break :/

Oi parabol - i'm not ignoring you - just in study mode and not answsering emails (but yes i am posting on qgl:(

Lightweight babbyyyy

Haha Ronnie Coleman!

Edit:-

Billy i know how it feels mate. I had a flat week last week, didn't feel motivated, whinge and bitched like a girl during training. Guess everyone has weak sessions, apart of training.
What shoulder injury have you got? Some tendonitis? I have a little bit in my left should that shows up every now and then. But since i've been going strength training its improved heaps. But rest has helped also!

last edited by Boofe at 21:33:57 10/Jun/08

Oi parabol - i'm not ignoring you - just in study mode and not answsering emails (but yes i am posting on qgl:(

Nah that's cool. What I mentioned now happened after I emailed you .. so I figured I'd mention it now, hoping someone might encourage me to keep trying or tell me what I'm doing wrong :)

I'm just surprised people can lift such heavy weights. Does everyone start highish to begin with from a natural physique point of view or as low as me when starting off (20kg-ish?)

last edited by parabol at 21:33:18 10/Jun/08

I'm just surprised people can lift such heavy weights. Does everyone start highish to begin with from a natural physique point of view or as low as me when starting off (20kg-ish?)

I started around the 60-70kg mark on the deadlift. It takes time to build up strenght. I've been doing core strenght training for around a year now so i've pretty much doubled my original starting weight.

Start as low as you need to, to get the technique right.

Where do you train boofe?

Hey billy, behind the neck shoulder press isn't good for shoulder injuries, in fact its a major cause of them. The details allude my memory..something to do with rotator cuffs etc.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=behind+the+neck+press+injury&meta=

http://www.fitflex.com/behindneckpress.html

last edited by Le Cock at 22:06:23 10/Jun/08

Where do you train boofe?

Your Local Fitness Studio at yerongpilly on fairfield road.
I train with my bro ravnOs.

Their website:- http://www.lifesciencehealth.com.au/

Boofe: your hips are coming up too early and its letting you bend and lift with your back. I'd recommend as a way of making sure that you lift with your legs is to start your lift with your arms already fully extended and tense and focus on maintaining that tension. That way when your legs come up your back should stay straight and your shoulders back.

I'd almost say that you should never deadlift unless you're in front of a mirror. It's not posing it's watching your own form.

Boofe I think your thighs are a bit to weak to be lifting that much weight. I'm no expert though so dont flame me if i'm wrong.

Concentrating on some squats and the 45 degree machine thingy to strengthen your thighs as well as ass muscles will help make your deadlifts a bit steadier.

edited cause i cant type

last edited by Le Infidel at 06:42:53 11/Jun/08

last edited by Le Infidel at 06:44:50 11/Jun/08

Infidel makes a good point, are you squatting as well because if you're not you're going to struggle with that kind of weight (with good form)

DONT MESS WITH BOOFE GUYS

HE'LL LIFT YOU UP

DON'T MESS WITH MAXE GUYS

HE'LL PAY OUT YOUR SHOES

DON'T MESS WITH DAN GUYS

OR DO, SEE IF I GIVE A f***

you're not you're going to struggle with that kind of weight (with good form)

I didn't struggle with it. It felt strong all the way through the movement. Plus we were going for our one lift max yesterday thats why i only did one rep! However, yes i could have used my legs a little more, but i did start in the squated position.

Plus the training me and ravn0s do doesn't focus on muscle mass but muscle strength. We have done a incline leg press workout maybe 2-3 times this year. Most of our training focuses on overall core body strength and cardio.

WHY AM I SHOUTING

WHY IS MY PENIS SO SMALL

Doesn't look right boofe, can't pinpoint it because the angle is retarded

Edit: and you're not mix gripped you silly f***

last edited by jmr at 09:34:03 11/Jun/08

Doesn't look too bad... what are you squatting?

Edit: and you're not mix gripped you silly f***

LOL woah... there's an added 20kg's right there! (or better form;)

Hey billy, behind the neck shoulder press isn't good for shoulder injuries, in fact its a major cause of them. The details allude my memory..something to do with rotator cuffs etc.

Yep I'm aware of that as a general rule, but my shoulder injury is gheeeyyy, and when it was worst, it meant i couldn't raise my arm up directly in front of me. Any movement where my shoulder isn't properly set in place is very painful, and doing shoulder press behind my head makes it much easier to keep my shoulders in the correct place, and takes all (well most) of the pressure off the front of my shoulders:)

Just don't do lat raises (rotator cuff rape)

haha you losers, stop talking about my rotator cuff - it's not my f***ing rotator cuff!!!

What makes you think I was talking to you ;p

Edit: and you're not mix gripped you silly f***

haha the mixed grip doesn't feel comfortable to me... So i don't use it.

Doesn't look too bad... what are you squatting?

Last squat i did was a couple of months ago either 100kg or 110kg cant remember!

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haha you losers, stop talking about my rotator cuff - it's not my f***ing rotator cuff!!!

haha my bad :P

Whoa man squats should equal deads

its true

looks like you're doing the lift in 2 stages, first with quads and then with your back. Need to be doing both stages at once.

Watch the little man:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/GluteusMaximus/BBDeadlift.html

^ yep that was the exact problem I was having... my back was much stronger than my legs and I was doing it in two stages as jmr pointed out to me. I was squatting about 100 and dead'ing 130 - 140

I changed my stance to sumo and massively dropped the weights from ~140 (one rep with the same form as you) down to about 80 and built my way up again. Now I squat 115 and deadlift 115 both with almost perfect technique (keeping in consideration that I have TERRIBLE hamstring flexibility).

Sure I don't look as tough as I used to when I had more plates on the bar, but my body in general has felt far better with good form. I'm in no hurry to be in the powerlifters club so I'm happy building the weights slowly with good form.

Kewl ill give the sumo stance a go!

Jmr i have done squats about 4 times in the last year so im not sure what weight i would be doing now.

lol squat more often!!!

With Sumo, it feels f***ing WEIRD the first few times you do it. And you'll walk like a duck for a week, but after you get over that you'll quickly realise why it's so much better for form. It's heaps easier to get your arse lower and get your legs to do much more work. A big guy at my gym who deadlifts ~240 with sumo style was giving me pointers, and he said sumo will work your gluts and hams much more than conventional stance, which takes a lot of pressure off your back.

edit: quick steps for sumo

1 LOW WEIGHT! You'll build up quickly
2 Put your feet at about the outside markers of the bar so your shins hit the bar just inside the markers
3 Angle your toes slightly outwards (the big guy said that one inch difference in your toe angle will decide whether or not you get the weight up. I got a hip injury because I was too wide, so start narrow and work outwards slightly)
4 In the stance, straighten your legs and stretch your arms vertically down to the bar so you can feel the tension on your hamstrings
5 Grab the bar and then squat so your arse is really close to the ground and your knees are up beside your body
6 Arch your back and (the right way!) and lift!!!!

You'll find it's much easier to keep your back in a good position, your legs straight and the bar closer to your shins and legs.

last edited by B.Hardball at 11:43:18 11/Jun/08

yeah you won't be able to do anywhere near as much weight straight up as the initial lift part of the sumo dead is comparatively very difficult.

there are so many other exercises you can do that work the legs without the high risk of doing your back or hip or whatever

haha

boof..goto www.bodybuilding.com and ask on there..dont waste your time asking the people on here..

or go to http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html for vids on almost any exercise you can think of and how to do them

boof..goto www.bodybuilding.com and ask on there..dont waste your time asking the people on here..

Why? You'd just get a larger overall population of people looking at the video, but I'm pretty sure the proportion of people who actually know what they're talking about would be the same;) Besides, they'll say the same thing that has been said - the video is from the wrong angle to really be able to critique the lift.

And they're alot less likely to be able to goto the gym with you

b.hardball, ask your gym question on here if you like..but if i want a proper answer from people who know what they are talking about i'd go to that site..

Hence why i never ask anything about gym on here..Only talk to people are who in that area and have the skills and experience to give me a correct answer, not a "i goto gym every day i know thats right" answer from the people on here..

Damo is right, the only question we should be asking on this forum is "hay guys whens the next QGL?"

Hence why i never ask anything about gym on here..Only talk to people are who in that area and have the skills and experience to give me a correct answer, not a "i goto gym every day i know thats right" answer from the people on here..

lol... you can tell that about people just from them posting on the internets? If you really want help, ask the staff at the gym - that's what they're there for. I know what I'm talking about, and when I don't, I'll admit it:p