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existence`
Posts: 6639
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hey guys
this is my pc amd 64 3000+ 1gig ram (upgrading to 4gig) 8600GT with the new ram, will my pc run age of conan alright? the new ram is only gonna run at ddr 400 or w/e gay speed it runs at, not the DDR2 stuff i dont really want to spend 800bux + on a new system, but maybe the time has come? thanx guys |
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| #0 11:42am 05/06/08 |
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STEALTHy
Posts: 101
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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dont know what the AMD chips run like, but if u turn the res & detail down a bit should be ok.
i run a Q6600 (quad 2.4) 2gb DDR2 800 8800GT and it runs very nicely on 1600x1200 full detail. and i assume ur running vista if ur gonna upgrade to 4gb ram right ? |
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| #1 06:19pm 04/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6640
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Wasnt planning to, should I? im running vista atm.
does vista handle ram alot better? im out of the hardware loop -_- |
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| #2 06:26pm 04/06/08 |
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4370
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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4gigs of DDR is pretty expensive. ~$155 for a 2gb kit.
It might be worth looking in to buying a new system :/ |
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| #3 06:28pm 04/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6641
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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dont know what prices youre looking at reso but www.msy.com.au lists 4gig DDR 2 kits for under 100 bux
If i get a new system im gonna get 4gig ram asus p5k SE mobo 9800GTX card and e8400 cpu 160gig seagate 7200rpm drive ASUS P5K-SE - $103 Seagate SATA 250G -$63 E8400 INTEL - $218 4G Kit-800(2x2G) A-data - $91 Coolermaster Extreme 550W - $72 512M 9800GTX Leadtek - $362 = $909 dollars, that makes me qq how |
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| #4 06:45pm 04/06/08 |
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parabol
Posts: 4377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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dont know what prices youre looking at reso The "4gigs of DDR" prices, as reso mentioned. DDR2 is way cheaper but no use if the system doesn't support it. Especially when you said: i dont really want to spend 800bux + on a new system and the new ram is only gonna run at ddr 400 or w/e gay speed it runs at, not the DDR2 stuff :) |
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| #5 06:53pm 04/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6643
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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SO, you're saying i should spend MORE money on 4 gigs of DDR 400, when i could buy DDR2 that will run IDENTICALLY and essentially act as DDR 400 ram?
or is this new DDR2 ram not backward compatible like the whole of DDR ram has been since it came out? |
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| #6 07:07pm 04/06/08 |
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parabol
Posts: 4378
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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is this new DDR2 ram not backward compatible Not compatible, it's a new standard and the pin-out is also physically different so it wouldn't even fit. |
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| #7 07:19pm 04/06/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5223
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I have a similar system... sorta...
Athlon x2 3800+ 2GB Ram 8600GT. It runs pretty s***. I have lots of detail turned down and I get 20-40FPS. In busy areas it drops to 5-10FPS. I'd be just getting a video upgrade to start with, at least you can move it over to a new system. Gigabyte 3870's are ~ $169 at CA. |
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| #8 07:23pm 04/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6644
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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whats a 3870? any good mongie??? fill me in brother - im googling it now
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| #9 07:27pm 04/06/08 |
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³dee
Posts: 2156
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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the only way you'll get your whole 4gig to work is with a 64-bit version of vista or xp.
32 bit windows requires a portion of the capacity of a 32-bit address to be reserved for devices and whatnot. So anything above [x] address doesnt count as availble room for normal memory addresses so it chops of at about 3.5gb or something. last edited by ³dee at 19:50:29 04/Jun/08 last edited by ³dee at 19:50:47 04/Jun/08 |
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| #10 07:50pm 04/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6645
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i see
well im putting vista on regardless, so yeah |
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| #11 08:56pm 04/06/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5224
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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3870 = ATI card.
About to be superceded, but for $169 its pretty good value. I'd say it would run AoC without any problems. Then, if you upgrade... you can have up to 4 of them with CrossFireX :D |
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| #12 09:29pm 04/06/08 |
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deadlyf
Posts: 84
Location: Queensland
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I have practically the same specs except I run at 1680x1050 for WS. I did the whole turn on high and turn off shadows thing and it sits me at about 60fps. |
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| #13 09:30pm 04/06/08 |
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Reverend Evil™
Posts: 15717
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Definitely recommend a 9800GTX card. They kick a lot of ass and are damn cheap.
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| #14 11:02pm 04/06/08 |
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parabol
Posts: 4380
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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well im putting vista on Ok, looking forward to the "How do I get X working on Vista" threads. |
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| #15 11:07pm 04/06/08 |
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Definitely recommend a 9800GTX card. They kick a lot of ass and are damn cheap. They're hardly worth the extra cost considering how close to it's performance the 8800GT's and GTS 512 are. I take that ^ back... they're pretty damn cheap! last edited by reso at 23:52:36 04/Jun/08 |
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| #16 11:52pm 04/06/08 |
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groganus
Posts: 542
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i run amd x2 6000+ dd2 4gig 8800gts 512
i play on high settings everything maxed 1680x1050 windows vista 64bit 50-60fps on average can drop to 30-40 in some graphic intense areas (but that is still quite playable and generally i dont even notice the drop when it happens) had 6 man group doing SOTB's (low level group dungeon) and didnt have any graphical lag at all. open areas are fine aswell. only problems i get is when im in a closed area with lots of *fire* (one particular house in the nobel district gives me terrible frames) i was playing the game originally on dd2 2gig, the difference from that and 4gig was considerably better load times (which is kind of important considering the world is instanced) |
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| #17 12:04am 05/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6648
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hmmmmmmmmmm
i think what im gonna do is this this week, upgrade my motherboard, cpu and ram to what i said then in another week or 2, do the PSU, HDD and video card my next question is, theres alot of "generic" brand s*** around now. like a generic video card is 50 bucks cheaper then the same vid card in asus version is it still worth going with the best brands? or are those days sorta over in pc hardware? thanks guys |
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| #18 07:05am 05/06/08 |
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Reverend Evil™
Posts: 15719
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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remember you'll have to format again if you chuck another hdd in there. you should do the hdd and mobo at the same time.
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| #19 07:22am 05/06/08 |
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defi
Posts: 2490
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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I am in the same boat but my current system is slighty better:
I have a: - x2 3800+ - 7600gt - Upgrading this arvo do i get 9800gtx $350, 8800gt or 9600gt $220 - 1gig ddr2 - Upgrading this arvo to 4gig Ddr2 Will have to upgrade to Vista aswell i guess. What i want to know is which vid card for the dollars. I can almost buy two 8800gt's and SLI forthe price of the 9800gtx. |
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| #20 09:25am 05/06/08 |
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TicMan
Posts: 3334
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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My specs are; E8400, 2Gb DDR2, 512Mb 8800GT and am able to run AoC at 1680x1050 on High settings with shader model thingie on 3.0 and all the glam features with a constant FPS of around 45-50.
My vote would be a single awesome video card over SLI'ing 2 cheaper cards. Out of that list though, I wouldn't bother with the 9600GT. |
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| #21 09:43am 05/06/08 |
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defi
Posts: 2491
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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so the 9800gtx is a good card? I can afford to go up to that budget really
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| #22 09:49am 05/06/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5225
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Its an OK card. Its not a lot faster than the current 8800GT's.
The nVidia GTX 280 and 260 come out on the 17th. I'd wait for the associated price drop on all of the other cards. |
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| #23 10:16am 05/06/08 |
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Obes
Posts: 6191
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yet what of the R700s due Q3 this year ?
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| #24 10:50am 05/06/08 |
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boba
Cainer
Posts: 3076
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol ati
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| #25 10:53am 05/06/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 Launch = July/August 2008 (GDDR5 Delays)
ATI Radeon HD 4870 Launch = 18th June 2008 (Delayed to 23rd) ATI Radeon HD 4850 Launch = 18th June 2008 (Delayed to 23rd) ATI Radeon HD 4650 Launch = Unknown ATI Radeon HD 4400 Launch = Unknown |
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| #26 10:58am 05/06/08 |
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ctd
Posts: 6120
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ATI had a pretty good run for a bit back around the radeon 9600's and etc.
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| #27 11:27am 05/06/08 |
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mongie
Posts: 5228
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I think you'll find ATI becoming stronger in the near future. They are moving more towards distributed processing... it will all become quite interesting in the near future I feel.
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| #28 11:42am 05/06/08 |
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defi
Posts: 2492
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Ended up buying:
- x2 6000+ - 4gig ddr2 800 - 8800gt Runs like a dream, and enjoying the combat system compared to wow. |
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| #29 07:24pm 05/06/08 |
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Obes
Posts: 6194
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I am with mongie on this one.
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| #30 07:30pm 05/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6649
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i am picking all this shizzle up tomorrow
costing $775, pretty happy with that price, from www.msy.com.au Coolmaster Extreme 550W PSU 20x Sata Samsung DVD 512MB 8800GT ASUS Seagate Sata 250GB 4GB kit 800 A-DATA INTEL E8200 ASUS P5k-SE |
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| #31 08:30pm 05/06/08 |
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Reverend Evil™
Posts: 15720
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Looks nice but I still would have gone the 9800GTX
8-) my specs atm - 9800GTX - nVidia XFX mobo - Intel E8400 3.0GHz - 4gig DDR2 RAM I'm hoping to grab another 9800 card and going SLI down the track maybe. My mobo supports 3 gfx cards but thats f***ing silly LOL |
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| #32 09:03pm 05/06/08 |
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existence`
Posts: 6650
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah that card is like an extra 150 bux i didnt really wanna spend
iv looked at heaps of benchmarks and the 9800gtx is marginally better, not really worth 150 dollars when youre a 3rd year apprentice :) |
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| #33 09:19pm 05/06/08 |
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Reverend Evil™
Posts: 15722
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Okies
I agree and I'm sure this upgrade is gonna be awesome anyway from what you have already. As long as you have fun that's the main thing. 8-) |
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| #34 09:31pm 05/06/08 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 6499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol anyone done this?
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| #35 07:55pm 06/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1934
Location: Other International
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bloody lol @ that! anyone know if they do prepaid of this? cant find anything on it. I'm in europe and having troubles with my aussie cc and they dont want to give me a cc here cause im not a citizen or some crap!@%$
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| #36 08:01pm 06/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1935
Location: Other International
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ah well, instead of asking dumb questions i just went out and bought it will see how it goes
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| #37 09:35pm 06/06/08 |
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Jim
Posts: 7979
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I saw play tokens being sold on the same site I bought my cd key:
http://www.playyet.com/gamecard.php?cPath=2051_2052 |
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| #38 10:31pm 06/06/08 |
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STEALTHy
Posts: 102
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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similar setup to mine exis, Asus P5K-SE rocks for a cheap board. Not too bad for overclocking if u wanna squeeze a bit more outta ur chip aswell, just need a bigger heatsink/fan.
I ended up getting a higher clocked 8800GT (cant remember brand was Z something) coming in at 700mhz / 2000mhz out of the box, seems to run a bit better than my mates so just somethin u might wanna consider. what kindof case are you getting aswell? youll need a decent sized one to fit ur vid card, i found my antec 900 series very nice.. cooling is awesome. if u wanna go all out coolmaster make some stupidly awesome cases which come with a nasty price tag. one last thing - youd be nuts to get a 250gb with the price of the 500/750gb atm imo, but all in all thats a very decent budget PC. |
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| #39 12:45am 07/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1936
Location: Other International
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what in the f*** ... http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=14651&page=25
cant login due to authentication issue |
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| #40 03:53pm 07/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1937
Location: Other International
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Well isnt this game a piece of s*** ... after login issues I gave up so gave it another go today. Logged in fine had a bit of a game, quit and went back into it after about 4-5 hours later only to get a black screen when i clicked play after that long verifying of files part.
No way to exit so i alt+f4, then it does this http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2384/f***youconanom7.jpg Think im gona cancel this subscription, too bad cant refund the game though |
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TicMan
Posts: 3348
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There's an option to do a scan of local files and repair them, maybe that might help.
I'm a but dirty over the twice weekly maintenance at 9pm our time.. that is enough to make me want to give it up. |
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| #42 01:13pm 08/06/08 |
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DM
Posts: 631
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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I'm going to get an upgrade soon so conan runs better but not sure about the graphics card just yet. the 8800 and 9800 seem to run about the same, with the 8800 apparantly doing better at higher res with AA turned on. That and i'm running on the budget so the less i spend the better. Not sure what i'm gonna get though. any ideas?
Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ 4GB DDR2 Ram Asus M2N-SLI Motherboard |
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| #43 06:06pm 08/06/08 |
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groganus
Posts: 546
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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what res do you plan on running it on ?
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DM
Posts: 632
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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1440x900. Max my wide screen will allow. Unfortunately all the reviews i've been able to find are always in stupid reses like 1280 or 1600. Why don't they do wide screen tests?
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| #45 07:09pm 08/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1942
Location: Other International
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This game is so random it just amazes me :D
So here I was playing this game on a laptop, 2.2ghz core 2 duo, 3gb ram, 8600mgt 256mb and vista. The performance was kind of ok, I didnt really feel that it ran like s*** till fighting in the keep in tortage where it would drop to like 5fps. Once I got out of tortage the fps was unbearable so started to google. Googleing showed that people have in short done this: - set quality to high - set shader 2.0 - disable shadows voila an increase of an extra 10-20fps so its playable now! To those that have gone out and upgraded or thinking about it try the settings, the game looks quite good at these settings so can get away without upgrading. as per: http://forums-us.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=36047 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=146088&page=45 |
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| #46 01:50am 09/06/08 |
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groganus
Posts: 547
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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im sorry, but i refuse to disable shadows in a game.
i dont care if it still looks "quite good" |
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| #47 08:01am 09/06/08 |
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Le Infidel
Posts: 1954
Location: Other International
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Thats fine then, but I refuse to waste hundreds of bux just to make the game run when I can just run it on my laptop.
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