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Topic: Bitorrent issue
Tiny
Posts: 1127
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I am having trouble downloading torrents.

Basically it all started when i reinstalled my OS from xp home to xp pro.

I do not think this is the problem. Using azereus i expereince constant port problems. Or at least Azereus informs me with its error pop up message, saying the port is blocked - check your router and firewall. The strangest thing is it randomly opens up again and the download resumes for a while before it drops out about half an hour later.

I run a wireless shared net connection through a netgear wgr614 wireless router. I even tried port forwarding - although i am not sure i pulled it off correctly , i am a little hazy with it.

It was working fine before i reinstalled my OS. I have no firewalls on, only anti virus. Any ideas how to fix this? ( it does not matter which port i choose in azereus, i get the same issue).
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whoop
Posts: 11067
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you realise windows xp sp2 has a built in firewall right? also check that upnp is on, forwarding the correct ports. If not, forward them manually.

edit: also doesn't assureus change the default port every time you install it? I forget, it's been ages since I used any bittorrent program

last edited by whoop at 01:04:15 20/Mar/07
Insom
Posts: 1325
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
At a glance that router doesn't have uPNP, but it well might.

Does restarting the router have any effect on the messages? For instance I have experienced weird NAT issues with a couple of Netgear router/modems after they have been running for awhile.

P2P tends to go through ports quickly and the router/modem appeared not to be releasing used NAT ports for re-use quickly enough. So existing connections continued fine (easiest way to tell was IRC which continued uninterrupted) but it became impossible to make any new ones.

But this issue would be affecting your other Internet apps as well - Web sites would not load and so on. In any case firmware patches mostly fixed it, or getting the P2P program not to open so many goddamn connections.

Also Netgear has this dopey DOS protection, turn that s*** off.
reso
I can't read
Posts: 3975
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Try uTorrent with the 'Automatically add XP Firewall rules' checked.
Creepy
Posts: 627
Location: USA
Have you applied LvL Lord's TCPIP.SYS hack yet?
Tiny
Posts: 1128
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its a WGR614 v 5. It has upnp. It is enabled and i even went as far as to add the port manually into the allow list.

I have the windows firewall turned off. Turning this off disables all the windows firewalls right?

Insom i couldn't find any setting for that DOS protection in my router settings.

Furthermore the NAT/Firewall test in azereus tells me the port is ok. But it cannot be because i am not getting any transfer at all. I also have not exceeded my monthly limit so i am not cappped. And with the massive list of seeds and peers i get it has to be something on my end stopping it.
Creepy
Posts: 628
Location: USA
www.portforward.com for tips specific to your router

If you haven't, consider applying the patch here...or at least read up on what happened with BT and Windows XP SP2: http://www.lvllord.de/

Also, I recommend not using UPnP. It's only useful for places where you don't have control over the firewall. If you are the admin, you can set up your own policies which work more efficiently. :)
Spook
Posts: 18113
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
first of all, get rid of azerus, its junk

install utorrent

turn off upnp
u can leave windows firewall on, check the rule for it in utorrent (make exception)

get some skills and learn to port forward

set your ip to be static and setup your port forward rule to that static ip

profit
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14439
Location: Ireland
spook laying the smaq
Two&Eight
Posts: 172
Location: UK
I'm having the exact same problem, and I've narrowed it down to my inability to forward ports. The link above is excellent, and am at least partially sure that anyone with some motivation could self teach themselves. I don't give enough of a s***, so no warez for me.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 1552
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
uTorrent and Bitlord FTW!
TicMan
Posts: 1731
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also, change the default port that your using - it's becoming common practice for ISPs to block those ports to stop the juarez.
Tiny
Posts: 1129
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I switched to utorrent. It fixed the problem. I took spooks advice and enabled windows firewall, Utorrent still works. Thanks for the help.
parabol
Posts: 3097
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Congratulations on the fix. utorrent usually "just works" (or user error is to blame).

Also, 12 posts in and not a single correct spelling of Azureus. I'd like to hear you guys pronounce it :)
Jim
Posts: 5522
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I like azureus, works like a champ in windows and linux, never have a problem with it
Spook
Posts: 18116
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i see you like your software like your vehicles
bloated and resource wasting

you stinx at torrenting jim, sorry

last edited by Spook at 13:30:18 20/Mar/07
Psycho!
Posts: 5914
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I know I am a dumb f***er and I have done all that the utorrent support site indicates, I have set the static IP and stuff that Spook said but when I start to d/load something it is going soooo slow its estimating DAYS for s*** to get here?? WTF..I thought this torrent thaing was fast?

any hep appreciated.. :(
parabol
Posts: 3099
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
WTF..I thought this torrent thaing was fast?

1. Where are you downloading from?
2. How many seeders are there on that torrent?
3. If you do "Options->SpeedGuide->TestIfPortIsForwardedProperly", does it pass the test?
4. Did you cap your upload speed to less than 6kB/s inside utorrent? (Important!)

If the above questions have ok answers, then I'll again paste some magic values from experience:

In Options->Preferences->BitTorrent:

1. Set the global number of connections to 300.
2. Set the number of connected peers per torrent to 250.
3. Set number of upload slots per torrent to 6.
4. Click on the Scheduler menu, make sure the scheduler is off.
5. Click on the Connection menu, make sure your Max upload and download rates are both set to 0.

Report back.
Spook
Posts: 18123
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if its not the fastest dling experience on the net, you arent doing it right

i regularly see 800kb/s+ on my private tracker site
Jim
Posts: 5525
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
azureus rocks
TicMan
Posts: 1739
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm with Jim - headless azureus Linux client is the cheese.

Also I heard that you shouldn't set your max upload to 0 or infinity because it'll just flood your outbound and virtually stop your downstream, something to do with that A in ADSL.
koopz
Posts: 6129
Location: Queensland
first of all, get rid of azerus, its junk


quoted for truth


azureus rocks



on a dedicated box that doesn't haveto do anything other than dl linux isos - yeah is sure works well there. run it on your gameing puter/workstation/server and it's poo.


much hate towards people who host new Heroes eps linus isos on their corp (work) servers using Azz (also known as Ass for some reason :P )
Creepy
Posts: 632
Location: USA
Isn't Azureus now "dead" and reborn as some new media thingo? Or was that just the Mac OS port..?
Jim
Posts: 5527
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nah it rocks on my gaming/workstation computer
Creepy
Posts: 634
Location: USA
http://www.zudeo.com/app

I knew I'd seen something about this before...
Tael
Posts: 2743
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also I heard that you shouldn't set your max upload to 0 or infinity because it'll just flood your outbound and virtually stop your downstream, something to do with that A in ADSL.
You shouldn't set your upload speed to your maximum upload bandwidth on ANY connection. This is because you need upload bandwidth to send requests for what you want to download.
parabol
Posts: 3101
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also I heard that you shouldn't set your max upload to 0 or infinity because it'll just flood your outbound

It's perfectly fine if you're in the trouble-shooting phase, as you're troubleshooting because your speeds are crap and you haven't received much data, hence you don't have much to send to others and can't really max out your upstream.

Once you have your other settings correct and solved your download speed problem, you should then set your torrent upload speed to about 75% of your maximum upload speed.

Usually for single-stream upload traffic like FTP, you could go up to 90% since it's predictable one-connection-only traffic, but with BitTorrent .. every new connection the client makes to a peer will max out your upstream momentarily before the BitTorrent client and/or TCP can successfully throttle it, hence the more conservative ~75% value.
This is because you need upload bandwidth to send requests for what you want to download.

Not to mention sending TCP ACKs.
Jim
Posts: 5536
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://jason.qgl.org/images/azureus.jpg
icewyrm
Posts: 1751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
downloading some heroes thar jim?
Alize`
Posts: 462
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jim I'm jealous :(
Jim
Posts: 5537
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
linux distros
I blank them out so as to not show favour toward any one distro
icewyrm
Posts: 1752
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nice sharing btw
parabol
Posts: 3103
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
linux distros
I blank them out so as to not show favour toward any one distro

Ah yes, the good ol' 350MB USB-stick distros.
Creepy
Posts: 636
Location: USA
No upload speeds! You dirty leecher Jim!!
Spook
Posts: 18138
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sif not giving back to the community

jims a taker
Jim
Posts: 5538
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
not everyone shares my love of linux distros
you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
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