So I put Vista Business on my box at home, and I'm having a real problem getting it to do networking. I have a Telstra Wireless Modem/Router that I'm wired into using a switch along the way. It's all automatically DHCP'd and such, and thus far I've never had any problems with a variety of operating systems. However, the Vista box refuses to co-operate with the router and give it net, to the point where I can't even ping the router.

I can't find any solutions on Google, the only one I found suggested disabling TCP checksums, but my install doesn't have that option anyway.

BTW, posted on my linux box on the same network.

NFI... Firewall would be the only thing I can think of that would stop a ping, also check that it has established a IP if using DHCP.

Yeah, the firewall is off. It does get a valid IP, and shows up in the router.

I had the vista beta up & running on my wireless router but that was ultimate and I used static IP's. I would be checking your stuff isn't trying to use IP v6, when I installed the v6 stack on my XP box I had no end of trouble with stuff trying to use it instead of the other normal tcp/ip stack and nothing would connect to the internet. Want to know how odd the problems I encountered were? well here's one, firefox would work just fine, close it, open it up again and lo-and-behold it was now trying to use ipv6 whereas the previous session was using the old tcp/ip stack. My computers are posessed.

last edited by whoop at 21:27:24 20/Feb/07

So I put Vista Business on my box at home

There's your problem.

Members who "purchased" and "installed" Vista on their machine is not welcome to post here regarding their Vista woes... just my opinion.

So I put Vista Business on my box at home


There's your problem.

What's his problem?
compare
Business version has networking center

The Network and Sharing Center puts you in control of your network connectivity. It's a place where you can check your connection status, view your network visually, and troubleshoot connection problems.

so theoretically he should be able to network s*** MORE EASILY with business as opposed to home which lacks the network center.

Members who "purchased" and "installed" Vista on their machine is not welcome to post here regarding their Vista woes... just my opinion.

Not sure what you're trying to imply here but if you're tring to say he didn't pay for his version of windows and isn't welcome to post here let me ask you this, Do you own YOUR version of windows?
\/\/\/ was I talking to you?

last edited by whoop at 01:29:39 21/Feb/07

Do you own YOUR version of windows?

I do! Want to see the receipts?

If I was going to pirate Vista, don't you think I'd get run Ultimate, and not s***ty Business. It doesn't even have solitaire.

Yeah, the networking centre is absolute bulls***. Makes things far harder.

Do you own YOUR version of windows?

Actually, yes. It came with my laptop.

same as typo for me :)

tho not vista, just xp

i had probs with my wireless as well, never got it fixed
a mate also had problems with his wireless BSODing

mine said it would authenticate and 'connect' fine
but DHCP would fail to 'identify'

Wait, does your Vista box successfully get a DHCP IP?

Yeah, it does successfully get a DHCP address. The other thing I just noticed then, was although the box has been on for over an hour, and I've sent numerous requests around the network, I've sent out 100,000 packets and not received a single one. Which seems really counter-intuitive, considering I was assigned a valid IP address. Peculiar.

nobody loves u

not getting any packets

Update:

Turning off IPv6 completely by changing the registry gave me the ability to ping and pull up the router, but not to access any internet related resource. For reference, what was changed was adding this line to the registry:

In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters
add the DWORD entitled "DisabledComponents". Set the value to 0xFF.

On closer inspection, it doesn't actually say I've received no packets, simply that I have received no bytes. Browsing my router's configuration page does not apparently count as using these "bytes". I'm at a bit of a loss to find the logic in a lot of these new Vista "features".

Why'd you nuke the registry value? Why not just remove it from the tcp stack? I'll admit the beta I tried was the ultimate beta so some of the stuff I mention might not be possible with your version, same as when I went to try to do some stuff on my friends' laptop only to discover he had xp home and some s*** wasn't even there/crippled.

had probs with my wireless as well, never got it fixed
a mate also had problems with his wireless BSODing

He's not trying to use wireless, I just mentioned it to say that I had it working & vista connected to the internet fine, didn't try ethernet because the computer is half way across the other side of the house.

I say remove ipv6 from the tcp stack and use a static IP.


\/\/\ in that case I guess I can't have removed it, wonder what I did.

last edited by whoop at 22:11:27 21/Feb/07

What I did was what I thought to be the only way to remove IPv6. From what I've read, the releases don't have the ability to uninstall it. Putting a static IP doesn't help me to get to the net.

try adjusting your network card speed and duplex, ie set to 100/full rather than auto

Thought I should post on here the solution to my problem, in case anyone else has it in future.

After several calls to Telstra, Microsoft and email correspondence with Motorola (router manufacturer), I decided to try and put in a different network card. I didn't think one of the old ones (circa 2000) would work with Vista, but it did, and solved all my problems. This is despite the fact that the motherboard with built in NIC has "Vista-compatible" on the box, and I was using Vista-specific drivers, it was bested by an old piece of crap.

To digress slightly, I'm very unimpressed with Telstra tech support. This is the time-line:

Call 1: Technician refuses to help with Vista at all, despite me telling him it states on the website that they support Vista. He calls me a liar.

Email: Send off an email support when I receive more information about the router, the reply I receive is just my question sent back to me. There was no text, support or content in the email.

Call 2: This technician refuses to help me with Vista.

Call 3: Hang up. Call directly back, and that technician tells me that he'll help me, no problems, and has no idea why I was refused or ignored. Can't solve my problem, so states he'll get L2 support to give me a call the next day.

And I never heard from them again. Way to go, wankers.

Only some are vista trained, the ones that aren't should put in for a second level support but I wouldn't wait for a reply considering how much extra work vista is causing.

you say motorola, so you have cable. then you say telstra say they support it.
yet the website for bigpond cable system requirements.

Clearly state, for
Cable WIFI,
Windows 2000* (SP4) and XP* (SP1 & SP2, 32bit).
Cable 1 port,
Windows 2000* (SP4) and XP* (SP1 & SP2, 32bit). Mac OS X v10 to 10.4.

BigPond Cable Technical Support service

BigPond offers Technical Support 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, to BigPond Cable Members with the following systems:

Operating System Windows 2000 (SP4)
Windows XP (SP1 & SP2, 32bit)
Mac OS X v10 to 10.4

http://my.bigpond.com/internetplans/broadband/cable/sysreq/default.jsp

Dont see vista mentioned there anywhere.
The Wireless NextG cards are about the only Vista supported equipment at the moment.

f***ing link.

Note that they say on this page that existing customers that upgrade to Vista will have working cable. It also says, beneath that, that new customers do not have support. f***ing a******s.

Edit: I'm an existing customer. Cock-lodger.

I uninstalled Vista and went back to XP last night. Hooray for s***ty nvidia and creative drivers and vista