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Topic: recommend me an isp
LiquidWax
Posts: 84
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well the old lady has told me that she's not going to pay for optusnet cable anymore because of the cost ($80/m) or whatever it is, so i'm forced to look for something cheaper. can someone recommend me an ISP (adsl or something like that) for around $60 a month with reasonable speeds, reliability and around the same data allowance per month (12gig)

Thanks for your help in advance.

and before i get told to go to Broadband choice i was just interested in your guys opinions about isp companies. It's all well and good to throw what you want in a webpage and it spits out companies but there are so many out these days that I don't know if half of them are good or not.

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Paveway-3
Posts: 2226
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i pay $67 a month for 10gb unlimited on optus, obviously she wants you to go a fair bit cheaper
Tung
Posts: 2768
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
iinet rock

60 bucks a month, 5gig/5gig peak, off peak

50 bucks a month, 10gig/10gig 1500/256, upgradeable to 8000/1000 if your area supports it but you pay 30 bucks a month line rental
parabol
Posts: 1137
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well, you can read whirlpool's broadband survey here if you want to get a quick feel for what people think about the different major ISPs.

I usually recommend iiNet or Internode as they are the most competitive and won't try to screw you over with changes in terms and conditions. If iiNet makes changes to their plans, they usually allow people to stay on their old ones.

So yeah:

iiNet: 1.5Mbit-8Mbit (10GB peak + 10GB offpeak) @ $50 if you bundle
Internode: 512Kbit (15GB quota) @ $50

Just stay away from Telstra unless you want to be shafted in the near future.
Spook
Posts: 12931
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
iinet

although make sure u got a tesltra phone line first (as i just discovered)

iinet easily;

u can check for yourself at www.whirlpool.net.au
and then go to broadband choice

its a bit frsutrating really that iinet never bothered to check my phone line provider until after i had signed up

luckily i hadnt disconnected optus cable first;
Eds
Posts: 7353
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Internode for the win.

HOME-512-Value $49.95 512k / 128k 15 GB

Internode have possibly been the best ISP I have ever dealt with, their service is always fast and I am yet to have a dropout in the 7 months that I have had it, the staff are helpful and friendly as well.
Spook
Posts: 12932
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
slow speed though :(
Eds
Posts: 7354
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Slow speed with internode? wtf
Spook
Posts: 12934
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
512k / 128k


ugly

im more a 1500/256 or faster kind of guy

last edited by Spook at 13:20:37 27/Apr/05
Psycho!
Posts: 5009
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Internode have possibly been the best ISP I have ever dealt with, their service is always fast and I am yet to have a dropout in the 7 months that I have had it, the staff are helpful and friendly as well.


I'll second that. Internode for the win.
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I did have a couple of drop out problems with my Internode...discovered it was the ADSL router i had purchased from them.They overnighted a new one to me,and about every 3 or 4 days for 2 weeks they would contact me to see how it was going and if i had any other problems with it.Can't go past good afterhour service!!
smart
Posts: 1840
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
netspace 1500

doing good connection deals atl 60 for 10g

refer my username if sign up!
Hashy
Posts: 1920
Location: New South Wales
refer my username if sign up!
If ever there was a reason not to trust someone's advice, this is it.
mongie
Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au

http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au

all you need.
Eds
Posts: 7355
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spook, that was for his price range, he could always spend $150 like me and get 1.5/256 unlimited.

Internode is also going to have 24000/1000, its available in some areas but not many, but they are updating all the time!
mongie
Posts: 3085
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
internode are actually cheaper on their own exchanges than on telstra ones (24Mbit costs < than 1.5Mbit) so, keep an eye out for when they do your exchange.
stinky
Posts: 662
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
AOL
rogue_squirrel
Posts: 189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i never had any problems with netspace. resonably priced to.
parabol
Posts: 1138
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
keep an eye out for when they do your exchange.

Internode has ADSL2+ friendly hardware in only 4 exchanges, soon to cover another 40 or so. iiNet covers 90, and about to cover another 120. So I don't think I'll take Internode seriously until they can offer high-speed access to more than 300 people :)
Crudler
Posts: 369
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
iinet fo lyfe
Eds
Posts: 7357
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
parabol, I have read (it could be wrong, it was from another forum) that internodes 24000mbs equipment is costing more than what the 8000/12000 stuff iinet is rolling out. Also I asked a internode rep on wp about it, and he reckoned that they are rolling out hard and fast come july, so hopefully that is acurate.
Dodgymon
Posts: 860
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Eds. There is no such thing as hard and fast roll outs as Internode aren't the ones installing the DSLAMS. Tel$tra have to do it, and most of the exchanges are in SA.

I completely agree with Internode having awesome after sales service however service is not something I require.

I think anyone with half a clue would be mad NOT to go with IINET.
Jem
Posts: 3439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i dont care what anybody says, i love my tpg connection
Dodgymon
Posts: 861
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you also lubs teh man sauce!
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 564
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yea Eds....3rd quarter of the year for brisbane,then Internode will truely fly!!!
Eds
Posts: 7360
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
where is the unlimited or flatrate plans with iinet? I see lots of quotas.....f*** that.
Seven
Posts: 373
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
Internode for the win. You can't beat quality.

Just as a side note, they have s***loads of free content which I have been taking advantage of LOTS - http://adsl.internode.on.net/unmetered

Correct me if I'm wrong but iinet doesn't provide that. I've downloaded the WoW patches and videos, other game trailers, steam content and listened to Chronix Radio all without ticking over my quota.

Also, there's no worrying about whether you're on peak or off peak times, just get on, do your thing and enjoy it.
parabol
Posts: 1140
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
where is the unlimited or flatrate plans

You're joking right? They scrapped their 256, 512 plans and offer only 1.5-8Mbit at pretty much the same price, and you expect them to offer unlimited plans at this high speed when most other companies don't offer unlimited even at 256 or 512 without some sort of AUP or shaping. Wake up buddy!
Correct me if I'm wrong but iinet doesn't provide that

Maybe you didn't bother actually trying to look:

ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au

There are your game patches, trailers, some linux distributions. Yes, it's not updated as aggressively or as extensive as other ISPs FTP servers, but hey, you get so much quota that it's usually less hassle to get them off non-free servers than search the FTP.

Oh, and http://trance.ii.net -- several streams to choose from: trance, dnb, jazz, classical, psytrance, alt.rock, chronixradio, virgin radio, vocal trance. All free currently.
there's no worrying about whether you're on peak or off peak times

You do know the whole idea about off-peak time, yes? They give it to you for free as most people don't even use the internet at that time. Think of it as a bonus. Don't believe me?

iinet: 1500/256 -- 5GB peak + 5GB offpeak -- $59.95
Internode: 1500/256k -- 5 GB -- $59.95

Notice how iiNet just gives you an extra 5GB because they can and doesn't cost them that much? You're telling me you'd prefer to stick with just 5GB than 10GB? OK. Each to their own.

[/iinet_pimp_#2005133]

Usually an admin steps in to lock at this stage *shrugs*
Reverend Evil
Posts: 11123
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Optus 20gig/40gig off peak
$97.15

Accept no substitutes.
Spook
Posts: 12945
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dont listen to rev
optus sux

ABANDON SHIP EVERYONE

(i really hate their 28k service, its totally unusable)
and their upstream sux massively also
hef
Posts: 1365
Location: Queensland
i have some free AOL cds around if u want :)
parabol
Posts: 1141
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Let's talk about ... Optus

  • Ever changing terms and conditions (for better and for worse)
  • Shaping of 20-28.8k (guess which speed they really implement)
  • slow 128k uploads on cable. 128 / 256k (very expensive!!) on DSL
  • No free content! Not to game servers, FTP, anything

  • Rev, please stay with Optus, it'll keep dslam ports in the hands of those who actually want it.

    * request admin to lock thread to shut me up *

    Cheers.

    last edited by parabol at 12:39:48 28/Apr/05
    0z
    Posts: 526
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland

    Well cant say much about node hear good things about them tho.
    ive been with iinet for about year and half on the 12/12 old plan, speeds allways great pings rock 10ms first hop, yeah there ftp could be updated more, but i get free brisbane pipe quota so meh its all good.

    /i miss docsis cable sniff.


    last edited by 0z at 13:28:35 28/Apr/05
    Spook
    Posts: 12946
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    id be very surprised if otpARSE's 28k service is even 20k
    feels more like 1.5k to me
    Greazy
    Posts: 2911
    Location: Germany
    tpg - $50 for 1500/256(or 125? not sure) and 20gig cap. Cant get any better.
    Hashy
    Posts: 1930
    Location: New South Wales
    id be very surprised if otpARSE's 28k service is even 20k
    feels more like 1.5k to me
    It feels like 1.5kbps?

    1.5 kilobit per second?
    Spook
    Posts: 12947
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    yes;
    it sux ass
    Eds
    Posts: 7362
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Um, internode's flatrate allows you to download around 30gig ever 7 days without being slowed down and that also applies to internodes 1.5-12000 plan.

    Spook , I honestly couldnt see a plan with iinet that isnt capped to some pissass speed after a certain amount.

    I think ill stick with my near unlimited and not shaped to dialup speeds internet connection with awesome staff and heaps of free content.
    parabol
    Posts: 1142
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    see a plan with iinet that isnt capped to some pissass speed

    64kbps? Which just happens to be the same speed that Internode cap you at? Nice one!

    So a month of Internode Flatrate would be like this?

    Day 01-07: Download 30 GB
    Day 08-15: Shaped to 64kbps
    Day 16-22: Download 30GB
    Day 23-29: Shaped to 64kbps
    Day 30-31: -repeat-

    So each month you can get 60 + ((2/7)*30) = 68GB, taking into account that half that time you'll be using the internet at 64kbps.

    iiNet for the same price ($90) gives you 80GB a month, after which you get shaped. Note that you can wait until the last day before using up all you quota, so you don't have to spend half the month capped. You ALSO get 1.5-8Mbps (as fast as your line/exchange will let you), as opposed to 512k.

    Normally I don't mind so much when people prefer other ISPs, sure, it's their choice and competition is excellent for everyone! But you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

    last edited by parabol at 20:51:59 28/Apr/05
    Eds
    Posts: 7363
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Errr, ,maybe you should check out internodes flatrate, because it isnt a straight cap to a set speed. Internode's flatrate plan do not "shape" to a set speed.

    Maybe you should read This>

    Before mouthing off....
    TiT
    Posts: 741
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Internode


    HOME-512-Value $49.95 512k / 128k 15 GB
    HOME-1500-Value $69.95 1500k / 256k 15 GB

    I am with Ozemail which is intergrated with IInet now.

    But once my 6months are up going to Internode

    Plus with IInet you need to go with there line rental and i dont want to pay 30 bux for line rental when we dont even use the phone!


    That my say!
    Reverend Evil
    Posts: 11131
    Location: Wynnum, Queensland
    There's nothing wrong with Optus if you dont go over the cap and the upload speed is also fine. I don't host files and if I'm using a file sharing proggy I use netlimiter to cap the upload speed anyway. Also 20gig peak and 40gig off peak is enough to grab whatever I want for the month. The only bad thing is the price I guess but worst of all is the s*** speed if you do get capped.

    Apart from that I've never had an issue with them in the past 3 or so years.
    Tanaka Khan
    Posts: 568
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Eds = 1
    parabol = 0
    parabol
    Posts: 1144
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    o_O

    Now that's interesting, Eds! I'm not sure what page I've been looking at all this time.
    parabol tries to put the pin back in
    Eds
    Posts: 7367
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    I cant tell if your being sarcastic or not.
    parabol
    Posts: 1145
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Don't worry, I'm not :)

    I've been coding for 15 hours straight. Bit grumpy ...
    Eds
    Posts: 7368
    Location: Brisbane, Queensland
    Heh, I wasnt trying to be smart, I was just meaning, there is no one with a flatrate system like internodes. It rawks.
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