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Topic: Grey Pages (Reverse Lookups based on phone numbers)
brett
Posts: 1022
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
(I hate it when trog's right)


ok let me lay this out for those of you who's shoe size is higher than your IQ.

whitepages.com.au - Enter a name/address, get a phone number as a result.

greypages.com.au - Enter a phone number, get a name/address as a result.

simple, yeah?
http://www.teq.cx/
"Remember, rape and pillage, then burn."



from a post by me on page two, explaining it a little better.
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Lits
Posts: 2938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
is it meant to work, or is it just there for show?
Ditch
Cock Gobbler
Posts: 2754
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
pfft, still waiting for something cool.
existence`
Posts: 3918
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This f#!kn' blows

teq f#!kn' blows
imitation
Posts: 2168
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
www.whitepages.com.au ..... .... ... .. .
Stez
Posts: 1685
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wtf does it do? nothing?

If u already have their name, address, and phone number, wtf are u searching for?
brett
Posts: 1023
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
http://greypages.com.au/xml/?number=YOURPHONENUMBER&areacode=07

last edited by teq at 23:00:33 11/May/04

last edited by teq at 23:00:43 11/May/04
brett
Posts: 1024
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I'm quite aware of the whitepages.com.au, but you can't type in a phone number and get the address corresponding to it, or the persons name etc ;)

P.S. silent numbers wont work.

last edited by teq at 23:03:13 11/May/04
Stez
Posts: 1686
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ok that's pretty cool.

simply put: put a phone number in and it gives u name and address.

wasn't there a "black pages" a few years ago that did this, but it got shutdown? or they started selling it?
Khel
Posts: 7606
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Aren't reverse lookup directories like that illegal?

Edit: After a bit of googling, it seems theres laws against it in the UK, but its not strictly illegal in Australia. At least, I'm assuming its not illegal in Australia because I didn't find anything that says it is and this online store is selling a reverse lookup phone book on cdrom.

last edited by Khel at 23:09:38 11/May/04
Hemerage
Posts: 13330
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is this similiar to what the old black pages did?
Or did that do more...

Should be able to track my mobile!
Burgz
Posts: 36
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pity they listed my family living at xxxx st east, when we are just the normal street ie: not east (street name hidden)

last edited by Burgz at 23:07:09 11/May/04
imitation
Posts: 2169
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Aren't reverse lookup directories like that illegal?


You used to be able to buy a reverse look up program from like harvey normans or something so I doubt it.
nat
Posts: 793
Location:
s*** thats scary...its got my home address and that of all my mates =\

i fear im gonna be murdered *deadlocks sliding windows*
épic™
Posts: 932
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Search took a total of 26.151883 seconds.

mmmmmmmmmmmk
shrapse
Posts: 2538
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Please be aware that the database currently being used is remote, this will be fixed shortly.
natslovR
Posts: 3685
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
reverse lookup directories are not in themselves illegal, but there was a case a few years back where a telstra subsidary sued one reverse lookeruper for copyright violation claiming that they couldn't send white page directories off overseas to have key-monkies type them in as that was piracy. They won.

Also, the data is well and truly stupidly out of date or just wrong. I checked my parents phonenumber which they've had for over 10 years and it belongs to someone else in a different suburb.

last edited by natslovR at 23:57:55 11/May/04
Dogmatix Man
Posts: 754
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The last one of these online got taken down, I believe. Don't expect this one to hang around forever.
E.T.
Posts: 484
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I give less than a few days....
brett
Posts: 1025
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I've already asked for the copy of the database, which I hope to receive in the next week or so (3gig)

its not what you know, but who you know
Parag0n
Posts: 8012
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
its not what you know, but who you know


e-pal sexual relationships unite
natslovR
Posts: 3687
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
once you've got the db you could set up a distributed computing project to validate and update it against whitepages :-)

10,000 PCs making 4 checks per day at random times - wouldn't take long at all - considering whitepages returns multiple entries to a query not just one, and four per day, they'd never know.
clipto
Posts: 1225
Location: Other International
10 000 is a lot, you can always just get a up to date cd with a reverse look up thing for personal use.
Erik-the-Red
Posts: 1309
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you can always just get a up to date cd with a reverse look up thing for personal use
yes, when the database is 3gb.

dvd perhaps :)
Ditch
Cock Gobbler
Posts: 2755
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
A total of 2 records were found.
Search took a total of 54.487172 seconds.


haha speed demon
clipto
Posts: 1226
Location: Other International
yes, when the database is 3gb.

dvd perhaps :)


Thats the size of this database, which is surely optimised for speed, not compressed...
Erik-the-Red
Posts: 1311
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thats the size of this database, which is surely optimised for speed, not compressed...
read the post above and say that again please
Reverend Evil
Posts: 7910
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Why would this type of thing be illegal????? Can you look up people thru silent numbers????? If not then it's exactly like The White Pages.

I think it's awesome for the times when you miss a call and then use the number to find out who it was. Why ban such an awesome service?

8-/
brett
Posts: 1026
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
its nothing like the white pages, its indeed the exact reverse of the white pages.
Stez
Posts: 1687
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if this gets taken down i'll be asking for a copy of the database off u teq :)
Ditch
Cock Gobbler
Posts: 2756
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
its nothing like the white pages, its indeed the exact reverse of the white pages


explain....
Hashy
Posts: 930
Location: New South Wales
explain....

Hmm, I don't see a "phone number" field.
brett
Posts: 1028
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
ok let me lay this out for those of you who's shoe size is higher than your IQ.

whitepages.com.au - Enter a name/address, get a phone number as a result.

greypages.com.au - Enter a phone number, get a name/address as a result.

simple, yeah?
Boxhead
Posts: 9334
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
why on earth do you need it? unless you're a stalker or some s***...
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 14627
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
simple, yeah?
Imagine, if you'd put it in the first post, and given this thread a meaningful subject, it might not have been so painful!

(in case the subtle hint is missed, DO IT)
natslovR
Posts: 514
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
why on earth do you need it? unless you're a stalker or some s***...
Well, for example, if you are running a business, you can look up the person calling you based on their caller ID and answer the phone "Hello Mr Boxhead, how's the weather today in Assville? What can i do for you today?"

That's what businesses use reverse lookup phone services for.

Why you would need one of these on the net if you are not a legit business? So when someone's pranking you you can find out where they live. When that chick gives you a phone number on a night out you can check if it was a false lead. And when someone lists their phone number in a for sale advert, you can phone them, check that they are out, then go round and flog whatever it is they were going to overcharge you for.
brett
Posts: 1029
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
and for stalking.. lets not forget the stalking
Opec
Posts: 1752
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Also, the data is well and truly stupidly out of date or just wrong. I checked my parents phonenumber which they've had for over 10 years and it belongs to someone else in a different suburb.


I'll have to agree there, it returns the result of my parent's place and my place and she only been there for about 2 years and we've been at our place about 3. Yet it can't find the number of our office which has been here for the last 5 years and yes the number is listed in the whitepages.

last edited by Opec at 20:58:19 12/May/04
GumbyNoTalent
Posts: 4740
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well, for example, if you are running a business, you can look up the person calling you based on their caller ID and answer the phone "Hello Mr Boxhead, how's the weather today in Assville? What can i do for you today?"
Go to the back of the white pages and ther have all the first 4 digit exchange locations, so you can tell where the land line is calling from, oddly enough assville isn't listed, are you sure they have an exchange.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 14628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"Hello Mr Boxhead, how's the weather today in Assville? What can i do for you today?"
Hahha, does boxhead really live in Assville?!! What a loser!
HERMITech
Posts: 1044
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I checked my own phone number which I've had for almost 2 years now an its not listed as mine.
Nice to see that it's updated
HerbalLizard
Posts: 2795
Location: Queenstown, New Zealand
Its interesting to find that my number has been reallocated
Boxhead
Posts: 9335
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hahha, does boxhead really live in Assville?!! What a loser!
Go Ireland... :p
Furgle
Posts: 591
Location:
Just check my silent number and it's showing someone else's name... Now I know why I keep getting calls for some smelly arab named A. Seumanutafa from Zillmere
Loki
Posts: 4308
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if your number is silent, and the previous owners wasn't, then it remains as the previous owners I think [i.e it doesnt update as silent nor change it to yours]...

Well I kinda tested it and it seems to be true.
Furgle
Posts: 592
Location:
yeah, that's what I suspected.

I always respond with "ain't no taliban here mate" whenever they call.
Skitza
Posts: 5407
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Doesnt work very well.
mooby
Posts: 1801
Location: UK
I got a few address ok. A mates i dont know where he is living now but have his diggits.

I dont see how these could be illegal. All the information is freely avalible.
koopz
Posts: 4913
Location: Queensland
wow - that just explained why telemarkers keep ringing up from Hong Kong asking for Mr Hei
clipto
Posts: 1227
Location: Other International
I dont see how these could be illegal. All the information is freely avalible.


I had a brief look for black pages and found nothing on the court case that got the last Australian website similar to this removed so I suppose I can only speculate. If something is freely given away in the form of the whitepages telephone directory, does the telephone company surrender their exclusive right to the supplied information? Clearly the white pages is only intended to be for personal use.

Personally I consider my phone number to be just that, mine. If the phone company assumes I am ok with them distributing it, I would expect them not to claim exsclusive rights over the information. Not a really big deal right now, but stuff like this will overlap into the huge databases of personal information that everyone is beginning to amass on us.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 14634
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There was something on Slashdot (I think it was) a while back about this sort of thing - someone wanted to copyright the information in a phone book, even though it was public domain.

[ Pause for Google... ]

Ah, here it is:

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/06/034221.shtml?tid=103&tid=99

Obviously that's US law stuff, but its still interesting, and I imagine it is similar problems to what would happen over here - although one obvious difference is the Telstra Factor - they've historically been the only ones maintaining a list, because every single person with a phone (until very recently) was going through their network.
Kat
Posts: 2399
Location:
Now I know why I keep getting calls for some smelly arab named A. Seumanutafa from Zillmere


Well finding YOUR phone number was easy
Furgle
Posts: 596
Location:
That's my old optus number. I switched back to telstra so I can use their faxstream duet thingy.

Just be happy everyone here doesn't know your number...

last edited by Furgle at 21:27:24 12/May/04
Reverend Evil
Posts: 7921
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
I still don't understand why this is illegal or wrong.

It's the same as having a phone book in front of you, but just the opposite. If I wanna stalk someone I can still open a page in the phone book and pick a name and it'll show their addy and phone number.

So what's the big deal if you know someone's number and then be able to find their address with it. Now if this thing can give out addy's for silent numbers then I can fully understand why it would be banned.
existence`
Posts: 3925
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^wins

lock the gammin thread

it cant give the details out for silent numbers, its f***ing retarded and the guy should fail life

last edited by existence` at 23:25:25 12/May/04
Hardball, Billy
Posts: 2212
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Boxhead just gave me an idea....

why on earth do you need it? unless you're a stalker or some s***...
Boxhead
Posts: 9340
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Boxhead just gave me an idea....
Stick, you can't stalk the dood that is already stalking you... oh s***
hast
Posts: 335
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is like napster but for phone numbers. :) I wonder if the greypages would be covered under "fair use" if you already had a license for the whitepages.
enfusion
Posts: 1
Location: Victoria

The data on GreyPages is _very_ recent :)
DigitaL
Posts: 1687
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you may be 'new' here so il give you reasoning. but it is against the rules to revive a thread that is over 2-3 days old. and in your case its 3-4 months
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