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Reverend Evil
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The article is shamelessly ripped from WHIRLPOOL
Telstra's competitors will now be able to offer ADSL over the copper loop network at a price set by the competition regulator. The ACCC yesterday siezed control of pricing for copper access, making it a "declared service". The move was welcomed by Optus, which has been pushing for the ACCC to regulate the service. Line sharing allows one phone company to offer voice services over the copper line, with another (such as Optus) offering ADSL on the same line. "Optus is continuing to explore its options for residential DSL. Today's announcement certainly helps to create a positive climate," said Optus' Paul Fletcher. The development is important for competition because it opens the possibility of competitors building competing residential ADSL networks to Telstra's own ADSL network. Currently, all residential ADSL ISPs use Telstra's ADSL access to connect customers to their ISP network. As a result, they are forced to pay high prices to Telstra for the ADSL access, and speeds are limited to 1.5Mbit per second. Telstra responded furiously to the decision, saying it was not what the market wanted, and the ACCC was wrong to assume "it takes three to tango." The ACCC said the majority of submissions it received supported declaration of line sharing. |
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tref
Posts: 675
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Wow. That's some interesting news.
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| #1 01:34pm 31/08/02 |
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1612
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It is. Finally Telstra may be beginning to get the message that customers arn't herds of livestock milling around mindlessly waiting to hand money over like cows.
O.K. that was a poor analogy. But still, serves the bastards right. |
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| #2 01:41pm 31/08/02 |
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tref
Posts: 676
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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All the A.C.C.C has to do now is confiscate the rest of Telstra's well abused powers, distribute them fairly and fix all the other f***ed up s*** Telstra has done over the years.
Isn't it funny how the spin-doctors work though. They announce a profit of 3.5 billion, though down from last time, they still pass the news on like it's a tragedy, to justify the next bombing run of customer shaftings to raise the profits for shareholders. |
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Denny
Posts: 1683
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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*Denny watches his stock portfolio crumble*
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Hemerage
Posts: 2566
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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it woulda started crumbling a year ago i woulda thought
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Swiss_Cheeseman
Posts: 570
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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I love the ACCC, they actually fight for the consumers. There arnt that many large organisations that do that nowadays.
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1613
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There probably are, but the media likes to focus on stuff that is irritating and such.
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HerbalLizard
Posts: 633
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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For once ACCC got off they're arses. Props to ACCC that they didn't do it sooner.
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| #8 02:42pm 31/08/02 |
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Tpyodemon
Posts: 1649
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Thats what it was created to do.
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HerbalLizard
Posts: 635
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What for them to sit on their arses until the whole australian population complains about something. Then they might consider some form of action to reslove it.
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1614
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Something wrong with that?
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| #11 02:53pm 31/08/02 |
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HerbalLizard
Posts: 637
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What I am saying is look at the volume of complaints about telstra that ACCC has recived over the years and its only now that they have decieded to do something about it. But late not that its a bad thing but should have done it sooner.
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| #12 03:01pm 31/08/02 |
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Dogmatix Man
Posts: 602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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This is most certainly good news. Like the thread title says, the ACCC have finally come through.
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fpot
Posts: 6161
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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sifn't promote to news item.
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| #14 03:42pm 31/08/02 |
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Nathan
Posts: 2010
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There's one thing I dont get - in the SMH article, it says
The Federal Govt owns 51% of Telstra. If they 'welcome' the move, why didnt they institute it themselves? |
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1615
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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They cant veto decisions made by Telstra. I suppose they have a controlling interest, but they dont set Telstra policy.
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dais
Posts: 3886
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Telstra responded furiously to the decision, saying it was not what the market wanted. Of course, we want to keep getting reamed in the arse! |
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| #17 04:26pm 31/08/02 |
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Gunman-187
Posts: 73
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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the market like being bent over, why do you think we have so many customers. And our tech support is never here because they are help the kiddies porn phone sex lines...
because tahts telstras main fundrasier. |
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Denny
Posts: 1686
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Nats: the goverment would be welcoming it becuase it is another step toward enabling them to sell of Telstra completely. As long as Telstra had a stranglehold on the copper network then they had far too much power.
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pilsudski
Posts: 546
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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This sounds all nice and rosey but when will it actualy fall through?
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trog
Posts: 8327
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'd probably feel really stupid if I'd bought Telstra shares - would have been nice in a non-deregulated market, but now its just getting worse and worse. I want to see the federal government buy back its shares! The voters would love it! At least, the ones that didn't buy shares.
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tref
Posts: 678
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It all depends on what side of the fence each individual/group sits on really. Simple peasants like my- self who just use the service and nothing more get overcharged and overshafted, and get provided with bareboned product (no frills - just barely working).
Shareholders are quite happy to take a little shafting because they know the dividends will be sweet. The Government is generating massive profits from Telstra which is why they continue to let the shaftings (3gig,wholesale pricing dillemas,BPA price increases, etc etc) go on, but on the surface must appear to be concerned with the general users views. *cough* Alston - my god what a joke. Also, a lot of groups/companies are in bed with Telstra and have their hands tied due to possible withdrawal of financial support/sponsorship. Summary - it's a completely f***ed up Liberal government supporting a disgustingly capitalist monopolistic corporation until something pops under the pressure ie. Us. |
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pilsudski
Posts: 548
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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isnt it ironic that the goverment is meant to be a representation of the people/taxpayers yet they are shafting us through telstra as they feel ?
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