sif there is a god.

stupid christians.

religions are for the weak minded.

By trog

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but i agree fully :P

damm f***** trollers

That is harsh.
You should respect all forms of religion, at least the ones that don't go around and kill people and think that ir is all within their religious rights.

sif QGL isn't my religion. :)

wtf happens when we die? do we really sit on clouds all day looking at god?

hell sounds pretty scary though :(

what made u bring this up StreX?

prolly sumthin ud care not to share or just trying to start a giant bitch session?...cause i can see the bitches comin

And i think religions are not for the weak minded but the strong minded. Do you think it would be harder to live within a strict set of rules and follow a code of ethics than do whatever you want. If you can't work that one out you truly are stupid.

Heheh ! Way to stir the pot Mr StreX ! ;o]~

AsIfSCIENCEDuzznRoxJ00!!

whar are laws yeti??
do we get to follow them if we want.


religions were invented for the human minds fear of death

Yeti Skinner maybe ur stupid for believing what u do :S

i say ur stupid for believing....
u say im stupid for not believing....

i can see us agreeing :S (let alone anyone for that matter)

I am not saying you have to beleive if you don't want to. All I am saying is that people should not just go around paying out people just because of their beleifs. If they are wrong so be be it, but if they are right... You are in a lot of trouble.

There really isn'y any right or wrong. If you believe in religion, then thats fair enough. I couldn't care less.

It's only those who try to force their 'beliefs' on everyone else that annowy me.

asif the church isnt just a big money spinner for the f***en pope.. seriously people think that if they sin then go to church and pay money they will be saved. it is in the churches best interests to sign people up for the church. for every poor kid they brainwash that is an infinite number of generations to follow that will have the same beleifs, and the same inkling to donate money each week, so mr pastor can intsall a t3 to download his kiddy porn. this equals = more money than microsoft will ever earn.

its the biggest joke going :D

And i think religions are not for the weak minded but the strong minded. Do you think it would be harder to live within a strict set of rules and follow a code of ethics than do whatever you want.

no i think living within rules is really easy... if you cant make up your own mind on what is good and bad then the church is for you.

really most people who bag religion dont have a clue about it.
religion is something that is very deep and means alot to people who follow. it's hardly something you can just dismiss and BS without at least having a look.

people who commit to religion hardly ever stray from it cause of all the good things it brings to their life, without a doubt there are some cases where war and killings have been waged in the name of extremists who use religion to attempt to justify their wrong doing, but it's this small minority that give everyone the bad name.

look past stereotypes and consider the facts, if your willing to look for them.

repent your sins! before it's to late! AAAAHH!!

/me pissbolts to the nearest church

good idea, i dun wanna burn, do u? :P

nah seriously, i was just thinking about how much bad s*** has happened throughout history, all in the name of religion (esp christianity).
for example:
pedophilic christian priests.
spanish destroying south american civilisations for the christian cause.
the murderous crusades.
crazy muslim jihads.
etc etc.. it is endless.
just because a group of dudes wanted to prove that theirs is the one 'true' religion.

some ppl are fanatical about religion, and they have lost sight of the true roots that it was based on (TALIBAN f*****S).

Sifthissongduzzenrule

you speak of rastafari, but how can you justify belief in a dog that's left you behind? you've simply filled the gap between the upper and lower class and your faith merely keeps you in line. an amalgamation of jewish scripture and christian thought. what will that get you? not a f*** of a lot. take a look at your promised land. your deed is that gun in your hand. mt. zion's a minefield. the west bank. the gaza strip. soon to be parking lots for american tourists and fascist cops. f*** zionism. f*** militarism. f*** americanism. f*** nationalism. f*** religion.

That is harsh.
You should respect all forms of religion, at least the ones that don't go around and kill people and think that ir is all within their religious rights.

what you think christians havnt killed anyone for there religion.....

yeah they have, but it wasnt christians worldwide, it was a few in rome who got so overwhelmed with the power they had (ie government and church were almost the same thing), that they decided to mis-interpret a passage which went something like "you can dispence gods wraith" (i'll look it up later if u really want) and then went on a crusaide.

this is something which without a doubt any christian church will tell you they are sad that it happened and simply do not approve of it under any cercumstance. the people who went on the crusaide were christians, however it wasnt instigated by christians world wide, small minority giving the majority a bad name sorta deal once more.

whooooooooooooooooooooooooa boy I'm so not touching THIS thread with a bargepole at risk of destroying my carefulyl cultivated image as a left wing non-narrow minded person.



*cough* religion is responsible for more death and misery throughout human history than any oother element you can care to name; as a concept spirituality is healthy however it continues to be undermined by the very human frailties it seeks to rise above. Plus many priests are a bunch of baby raping hypocrite scumbags.

Stop wasting your time thinking you'll have a good time in the afterlife - enjoy yourself NOW

beleive in what you want to beleive, whoever said ' just dont try and force your beliefs on other people' is right

why just christians, why not the church of england, buddist, shinto...you guys ams teh tard

Hey - I'm sure *I* didn't write that. There's a typo in it too, so it couldn't have been me.

GOD FOREVER!

It is always the extreme minority that give everything a bad name. You hardly ever hear the true opinion of the majority because they don't speak up or act in extreme ways. It is always the vocal minority.

Maybe Religion is something that was created for humans to try and make them feel better. I mean. They "believe" in "a" god. And they always say "god" is looking after me. SO therefore they are relaxed and no longer worried/bothered AND everything works out. MAYBE infact there is no god but the whole "religion" thing works that way. Its a state of mind. Putting their trust into something thats not there. MAYBE they are just believing in themselves.... there is a thing such as Karma.

f*** i hate ppl trying to force religion on us! :@
it means s*** to them cause they are f***ing brainwashed imo.

and Ad im 100% with u m8! MONEY f***ING MONEY!

religion has done jacks*** for me! seen more bad than good.....cause NOTHING good has happened.

dunno how the hell u can believe is "god" who is da bomb but he lets bad s*** happen :S dont make sense to me AT ALL!

and IF there is a god im going to hell cause i say f*** it all!

i knew id get pissed reading this but i love it :P eheh

There's another thing to think of too. If heaven is going to be populated by badly dressed bible toting mormons, jehovah's witnesses and paedophiles, I'll stick to eternal damnation.

Anyway, some KFC, a few mates over to watch an eternal supply of episodes of (Australian) Temptation Island (9.30pm on Ch 7 every Tuesday) is my idea of heaven. Somehow I don't see Elder Mantra sharing my idea of a good time once I pass the pearlies.

HeMEraGe: How can you really expect God to just bless you with everything you want if you don't even show a little respect. If I started bad mouthing you and saying stuff about you, and then suddenly asked you for a car or something, would you seriously just give me one?

nah i dont want s*** from "IT".........

but im sure other ppl in family and relatives etc believe and havent been "blessed" ......but they get their fair share of s***!

Everyone get their fair share of "s***". You just got to look at it as a way of being told to do something differently. You can't just say you beleive in these things, you have to actually show that you do in some way.

i wouldnt expect for god to give you a car just because you asked, but if i was a nun who devoted her life and body to god, i would expect a bit of devine intervention when the vikings were raping and pillaging the whole convent.

ppfft u can look at it that way.....

You can't just say you beleive in these things

good cause i dont believe...thats that

Alot of those Religins have some part of their written stuffs saying something along the lines of , "God is Within you"

I take that to mean YOU are the GOD. In death you go to wherever you want to go, as you wont be thinking about it in the way we think now cause you'll have no brains and no chemical reactions happening... So really you wont be thinking. So it dosn't really matter where you end up cause you litterly wont care.

But what is the most likly thing is that when you die, that's it. No more.

HOWEVER the Universe being Infinate in Size, and infinate planets and whatnot with an infinate time line, there is bound to be, at some point in time, a creature that is exactly how you where when you died, so in essence that creature would be you.

But surly there can't be infinate amount of planets in infante time.. Or can there...

I sure know that If there was a Heven/hell or whatever I'd get bored of it after about 1/2 an eternity and want to experince something else, but what have you got to experince when you have done everything?

Death is really a blessing..

Belive what you want to beleive, just dont try and make me beleive the same thing by knocking on my door, preeching in the street, littering pamphlets, this list goes on ... k, thx, bi

Death is really a blessing..

Okay Osama, your new turban is waiting in aisle 6.

all that really needs to be said to all the ppl that do and dont believe is...........

HOW DO U f***ING KNOW!

nobody knows jacks***! so its all assumtions and brainwashing imo

damn im getting no work done :S but ill just sit here refreshing every 2 mins :P

Say what you wanna say
I'm not listening anyway
I'll believe what I wanna believe
true to myself
that's how it's gotta be.

I like this game :)

f*** religion only causes problems

heh, sif i have the time to start egging these aethists on :)

jesus had 40 wives.

comon TUNG SING IT OUT LOUD!
:p

dan, that last quote is exaclty how i feel in regards to this whole religious issue. wd.

what song is that btw?

Pennywise - Badge of Pride

Jesus was black

jesus was in da hood

hold on let me pull out some christian hard rock, punk, and death metal quotes...

or not

Jesus Shuttlesworth?

He got game, that dude.

he also wears an oversized novelty clock around his neck

No that's Flava Flav.

Anyone with gold teeth that ugly gets banned from the pantheon of religious headmen.

anyway, what about those HINDU fellows that bear a striking resemblance to TUNG?
are they all going to hell too?

strex, dont ask me about religion, because my views get flamed by faget chrsitans and faget aethists alike :p

ALLLSOO:

Religon is in almost every civilization that has existed. It is(was) needed to band people together under a common goal set, so that they could create laws and rules that govern their people and thus have a Civilization that worked as a whole. Now that civilizations are set in stone (well maybe something softer ;P) Religion isn't really needed, that is why we are seeing a slow dwindling of religions of all kinds, some civilizations faster then others.

Anyway that is my unprofesional opinion

f*** it ...... who cares :P

f*** THE SYSTEM!

asif the church isnt just a big money spinner for the f***en pope.. seriously people think that if they sin then go to church and pay money they will be saved. it is in the churches best interests to sign people up for the church. for every poor kid they brainwash that is an infinite number of generations to follow that will have the same beleifs, and the same inkling to donate money each week, so mr pastor can intsall a t3 to download his kiddy porn. this equals = more money than microsoft will ever earn.

Cool it's a sort of pryamid scheme.

yeah they have, but it wasnt christians worldwide, it was a few in rome who got so overwhelmed with the power they had (ie government and church were almost the same thing), that they decided to mis-interpret a passage which went something like "you can dispence gods wraith" (i'll look it up later if u really want) and then went on a crusaide.

Ah so I guess Germany, France and just about the rest of europe = rome after all they were the ones running around killing people. They didn't even bother to see what faith they were with leaders saying things such as "god knows his own". Christisns started anti-semitism long before Hilter's great great great grand dad was a sperm in his father's balls. If fact many crusaders wanted to go around killing them instead. Oh and we can't forget Pope Urban the 2nd's wonderfull line "It's okay to kill people just not christians".

this is something which without a doubt any christian church will tell you they are sad that it happened and simply do not approve of it under any cercumstance. the people who went on the crusaide were christians, however it wasnt instigated by christians world wide, small minority giving the majority a bad name sorta deal once more.

What about witches and heritics I remember when I told a christian freind that christians burned heritics she said no they only burned witches hahaha that was funny. The fact is most christains probably know more s***ty hymns than history that's assuming they aren't just posers who don't even go to church I've gone to church a lot more that them.

And lastly there's a quote something like this "I'd rather go to hell, in heaven I shall enjoy the company of begars and monks. While in hell I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings and princes". And the best one "It's better to rule in hell than to serve in heavan". Now I'll leave you to you're slavey to your gods who will fail you when you need them. While I rely on myself and my freedom.

Heaven seems like such a pissweak place to be anyway. I bet you they don't serve really spicy food in heaven, it'd be all tofu and textured vegetable meat substitute crap.

ah gobo you have brought up an interesting point: tofu must of surely been created by the devil, therefore god must exist

Yeah I was thinking along the lines of "Eddie McGuire exists, thus God exists" only 5 mins ago.

So at last count Heaven is populated by paedphiles, mormons, jehovah's witnesses, vegetarians and islamic/christian fundamentalists who paradoxically think that killing people is a way of guaranteed entry into paradise.

Gee hold me back from entering that place.

Lets just have lots of anti-religious song lyrics !! coz they r00l !

They all claim that they have the truth
That'll set you free
Just give 'em all your money and they'll set you free
Free for a fee

They all claim that they have 'the Answer'
When they don't even know the Question
They're just a bunch of liars
They just want your money
They just want your consciousness

Chorus
All religions suck
All religions make me wanna throw up
All religions suck
All religions make me wanna BLEAH

Back to you Dan :o)

no fair, theres too much anti religious lyric stuff :(

I can beat that you quake grapple heaven buond sucker:

Welcome to the Church of Suicidal
We'll have a sermon and a wonderful recital
But before we go on there's something I must mention
An important message I must bring to your attention
I was in meditation and prayer last night
I was awakened by a shining bright light
Overhead a glorious spirit, he gave me a message and you all
need to hear it
"Send me your money," that's what he said
He said to "Send me your money"
Now if you can only send a dollar or two
There ain't a hell of a lot I can do for you
But if you want to see heaven's door
Make out a check for five hundred or more
"Send me your money," do you hear what I said?
"Send me your money"

Now give me some bass, um yea that's how he likes it
Now give me some silence, for all you sinners
Now give me some bass, yea that was funky
Now take them on home Brother Clark, send me your money
Here comes another con hiding behind a collar
His only god is the almighty dollar
He ain't no prophet, he ain't healer
He's just a two bit goddamn money stealer
Send me your money
Send it, you got to send it
Send me your money
You hear what I'm saying?
Send it, send it
Send me your money
How much you give is your own choice
But to me it is the difference between a Porsche and a Rolls Royce
I want you to make it hurt when you dig into your pocket
Cause it makes me feel so good to watch my profits rocket
Send me your money
Now dig in deep, dig real deep into your pocket
I want you to make it hurt!
We'll take cash, we'll take checks
We'll take credit cards, we'll take jewelry
We'll take your momma's dentures if they got gold in them
So whose gonna be the next king of the fakers
Whose gonna take the place of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker?
See my momma, she didn't raise no fool
Couse you can't put a price on a miracle
Amen

I say believe what you want.

Fair enough it's incredibly easy to come to the conclusion that There is no god... Look at all the bad s*** that constantly happens... where is god?

I simply believe that there must be SOMETHING out there bigger and better than us... whether it's god, aliens, or whatever, something must be out there.

I sort of can't really help but believe in Heaven etc... it's just too hard for me to try and think of what you will see / feel etc when you die... where does my personality go when I die?

/me whirrs his grapple at gobo ! Don't mess with me ! I have another browser window open with all the dead kennedies lyrix !!! ;o)

You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive

You say, 'God loves you. Come and buy the Good News'
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive

Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials

Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a bible
God must be dead if you're alive

Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?

You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool

You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Ku Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag

Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your c***, Anita
Cos God must be dead
If you're alive
God must be dead
If you're alive

Here's some lryics from some of those try hard satanists e.g. = losers.

TRICK OR BETRAYED
They will say that he loves you, he don't
From their bible they're controlled
His descent they expect in our life
They'll be waiting till they die
Disembark from their path of belief
If in turn will set you free
Cannot live with the fact that they're wrong
That there is no truth in god

Trick or betrayed
Their faith ends in pain
Rip up their bible before is too late
Time we undo unity
For it is for fools
In this world we don't need

Trick or betrayed

I think you should know
They know it's true
That their book is a hoax
Join us to see through the light
Christ is a scheme and will ruin your life

Trick or betrayed

Why insist on the cross died for us
His infliction never was
They assume that his death brought them life
To be dead will change their minds
When you see what you feel is not real
Disappointment is revealed
Cannot live with the fact that they're wrong
There is no such thing as god


DEICIDE
No lord shall stand before myself

I can strike the light and see through the truth
For I'm the Deicide, Dominus, what could you do
Thou has failed you now, once again and always will
On the cross, forgotten son, a sacrifice it had to be done

Chorus:
Died for me, well that's too bad I don't believe
Killed by sins of the evil what I am
Your destruction, reasons of a world in pain
Blind disciple, you will never live again

Wage of death, course of life
Unsematic birth of the Deicide
Eyes of pain, pleads of death
As you're put to rest

Three days to rise
If he lives again he is sure to die
I killed jesus
Just to see him bleed on his pulpis throne
I am evil
I'm the Deicide and I killed the lord
No more reasons
I will kill the world in another form

I rule this world

NAIL HIM

(Lead - Brain)

I can strike the light and see through the truth
For I'm the Deicide, Dominus, what could you do
Thou has failed you now, once again and always will
On the cross, forgotten son, a sacrifice it had to be done

Repeat chorus

EDIT: so there's areholes on both side of the fence.

Your personality, Pharacyd, is made up from all the experinces you have gone through, It is justa pattern of chemicals in your brain that is your memory.
Other factors like radiation and other damageing things also effect these patterns and your personality.
Your mother and fathers DNA aslo had a large impact for your personality.

Hopefully before you die you will procreate and pass your DNA onto your offspring, which is sorta passing on a bit of your personality. Then you would raise this child in your own way, further imprinting your personality onto the child.

As for your individual personality. It no longer will be there when you die, as your brain ceeses to function. So if you want enternal life you can only do it at the mircoscopic scale, by passing on your DNA and making sure your child passes on thiers and so on...

It isnt really a hard concept to understand that when you die you no longer think/feel. Therefor you are no longer you. As you dosnt exist anymore...

meh its all open to interpretaiton

as a christian people think i am obliged to believe in a greying old man sitting on a cloud somewhere, but what i believe is something a little more deeper. all religions seem to have common strands which made me first start questioning my religious upbringing, i was taught tolerance which helped me research more intoother religions to see what makes them tick, and funnily enough i came up with a common ideal 'be good to one another'.

here are the fundamentals of my belief. science will one day explain everything, including god. of course it wont take away anything from the power of whatever god is, but it will explain it in reasonable terms (not reasonable now maybe, but certainly in the future)

okay, i dont believe in the old testament as written fact, i believe it should be taken as a guide. god creating the world in 7 days is mroe a reference to the magnitude of what was reequired to bring about this universe into being. i believe in the soul as an energy force (what some people call chi, or life force). heaven/hell/current state are not physical things one being deep down one beinh high up, i think they are different dimensions, different states of reality. transcending is merely your energy force moving into a different state.

i dont know what god is, it could be this greater energy force, it could be sentient, it may not, but even physicists are stumped as to the origin of the universe. i believe in the big bang, in evolution, and in quantum and astrophysics, but every physicist is stumped as to what was before the big bang, what put the fundamental laws of physics in place to start this chain reaction, could this be the essence of what god is? could 'god' be the fundamental laws of the universe? or an inter-universal being that toyed around with a bit of quantum physics and made a little petri dish for us to live in... who knows

i do believe in a certain spirituality (whether that is just an extension of our sensory being, i do not know) but i believe in a transcendant state that is in effect 'perfect' or, without flaw. it doesnt have to be eternal bliss, but if you dont have anything to worry about, isnt that bliss anyway?

science is a tool of understanding, religion is as well, and both have to evolve for society to evolve, you cant kill religion the same way you cant kill science, beucase both are needed to focus the other. science is focusing religion imo to see what has happened in the past wasnt just a magic act, and that the old scriptures are a little exaggerated (going through 30-40 translations would do that to ya as well), and religion is focusing science to see the possibilty of the human body and mind, i mean i believe in scientific explanations for miracles, i believe its an ability stemming from extra sensory abilities, religion is just a nice way of presenting it.

all in all, the main point is - be nice to each other, so we can further society.


and yes, i finally took the bait :)

Well i'm sorry but Jedi is the ONLY religion. Nuff said

O if a God Exists I dont think it would do Anything to f*** up its perfectly planed Universe. So praying, preaching, killing, stealing, helping wont make God angery or happy or whatever. The God put all those things in place to make the universe run. It is the natual Order of things.

its an imperfect universe, of courseimperfect thigns will happen. the least we can do is make it more comfortable for ourselves, id rather lead a happy life than one filled with violence and hate 'just because its possible'

Also Good and Evil are entirlly relative to the view. In one cultre sacrifces could be considered evil, where in another it could be considered A Godly gift to be sacrificed.
It all depends on how you've been brought up, as it is the people and things around you that determin what is good and evil...

And i think religions are not for the weak minded but the strong minded. Do you think it would be harder to live within a strict set of rules and follow a code of ethics than do whatever you want. If you can't work that one out you truly are stupid.

I agree Yeti

I personally do believe in God, however it is up to the individual if they want to be a christian, buddist, muslim or even athiest.

Some ppl see religion as a weakness, and well thats thier choice but really as Yeti said before it takes a strong mind to follow the rules etc of the bible. If ppl see that is a weakness then they have no idea.

whats good and evil?

there is a general defintion of good, that applies for most people. good is what you would want others to do to you. evil si the absence of the such said good

to be good to someone is not to cause discomfort (in any of its forms)

its an imperfect universe, of courseimperfect thigns will happen

Who says it is imperfect?

It runs, things happen. Sounds fine to me.

it has flaws. its obviously imperfect

the fact that our universe will one day cease to exist already shows its imperfect

i belive in myself and the things i can do, i am who i am today because of the things i have choosen todo in my life

sif god, I AM GOD!@(!&%_!&%

THERE IS ONLY ONE RELIGION!

"And your calling me out of order? I'm not the one out of order, YOUR out of order!..The hole freakin' systems out of order! You want the truth? You really want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! For when you reach over and put your hand in a pile of goo, it was your best friends face! YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO! WELL FORGET IT MARGE, ITS CHINA TOWN!"

SIF THE SIMPOSONS AMS NOT TEH BEST RELIGIUN!!!

Why does a Universe that ceeses to exist be imperfect?

And what are the 'flaws'?


I think that is a relative term.. to what you belive is perfect.

From what I'm gathering. To you a perfect universe would be one that dosnt degrade or change.. It would be a motionless stale universe with nothing happening..

Religion only exists becuase of peoples fear of things they dont understand things like death how the universe was created and why they exist.

when people say "relgion is for weakminded people" they are probably meaning that it is a lot easier to follow somthing that is already defined and then to think for your self.

exactamundo

dictionary: religion

Tollaz0r what you are saying isa s flawed as some of the religious arguments. saying somthing is perferct because it exists is stupid

As far as I'm concerned you can worship at the altar of the goatse.cx man's rectum for all I care, just as long as you dont ask me to or harm anyone doing so.

Of course, what established belief system can honestly claim to have never hurt the innocent?

Cept the order of the Stonecutters.

Haha you just know Strex was rubbing his hands together when he wrote that initial post thinking "watch the s*** fly on this one".

Stay tuned for his next one: "All black haired people are mentally retarded".

No I'm saying that the Universe is what it is. Perfection is only percieved by the person who says something is perfect.

EDIT: I'm gunna make this damn sig smaller.. Later.

perfect implies without flaw.

wouldnt you agree that if the universe was perfect, things would neither be created nor destroyed?

religion is just an oldskool way of trying to explain things. science is the logical thought out way. both do the same job, with different interpretations, thus one must focus the other

hahahaha gobo :)

i was sitting here at work, and i go "f*** this forum is boring, what's something controvesial...?"

presto!

sif i dont know which buttons to push to get you fellas going :) but this has actually turned out to be a pretty interesting conversation (but just wait till the kids f*** it up when they get home from school).

Tung, that depends on what you consider a flaw..

Umm, it is already been proven that god DOES NOT EXIST.....

The babel fish. nuff said???

"Sorry for the Inconvenience"

Nuff said ;)

christianity isn't even a real religion... it's more of a "do it yourself" religion... just make it up as you go.

Pfft, you're all crazy.

Don't you know that some guy flew around and created the whole universe in six days. amd then on the seventh kicked back with a brewski?

And then, a virgin magically gave birth to his son. Also, a giant bright star appeared, and people follwed that to the virgin giving birth.

When this person (who's mother was a virgin) grew up, me turned water into wine, and cured blindness by touch! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, and then they killed him, AND THE MAN WHO WAS BORN BY A VIRGIN RESURRECTED HIMSELF!#@!!!!!#! JESUS CHRIST IT'S A MIRICLE!!!

It all makes perfect sense to me.

.......

His name was David Copperfield.

StreX - Religion is for the weakminded and is stupid, but you gotta remember - Its to stop the weak minded fools from going insane.
We'd have a bunch of crazies out there if they couldn't say they that their god was the best and they worshipped something perfect blah blah f***ing blah
on the flip side of that a lot of people ARE crazies cause they justify religion as reasons to be total f***wads.

I think of it this way, everyone should be able to practice any religion they want (as long as it doesn't involve breaking laws..) but if anything stupid is instigated from that religion, we go at it with a big axe :)

I used to be christian but considering the bible is full of such s***
(Eg, we're not allowed to go to the bathroom, for it is a sin - if a woman gets raped, its her fault - even more, if a woman gets raped and gets pregnant, its HER fault cause she wouldn't have become pregnant if she didn't want to become pregnant, hence wanted to be raped - If a woman is raped in the town center, she is to be put to death - If you have a female slave-concubine thingy with you as a guest in someones house, its their right to rape them.. whole heap of bulls*** like that)
its just stupid :)
My 'belief' is so much more simple, get off your f***ing knees and stop praying for someone to save you and start saving yourself.

so many innocent people have died in the name of god.
the crusades etc.
in some religions the sun is god, and poeple sacrificed others to apease the sun. sounds stupid hey ? the sun isnt god ? its just a big firey ball of gas. and christian god? hes just like there.. all around us.. no thats air, or your conscience, or nothing..

god is just a way of rubbing a rabbits foot for good luck, its the same thing.

beleiving in god is nothing more than believing in good luck, depends who u r sacrificing ur virgins to.

i in no way endorse religion. personally i think im better than it. i dont need to believe in good luck, only hard work.

totally agree with last two posts about religion being used as an excuse or reason for wars and death and f***wadery.

You should never ever take religious views from someone else.. You should read the text, extract whatever meaning you can from it, and whether or not you believe it, or it applies to you.

Religion went wrong when the 1st person tried to hold themselves above the norm and preech THEIR interpretation.. ultimately the only evil that comes from religion of any kind, is what we humans make of it.

Cool, that's the religion problem solved. Just tghink of those thousands of years of debate and millions of lives that could have been saved if people had access to qgl.org.

Tomorrow's topic of debate: the meaning of life.

lol Gobo, i agree with you.

LOL ...

Hmm anyone got Stephen Hawking's ICQ? Maybe while we're at it we can get this Unified Theory of Everything nailed over the weekend :)

Bah, I couldnt be bothered to read this whole thread...

All the readers go get "Why I am not a Christian" by Bertrand Russel...

Im not a religous person, but I understand why people are religous and why they look to it and love it. Jehovas witnesses, that guy on queen street mall, people handing out pamphlets for their religion, these things dont annoy me at all, the people are just trying to get more people in on their religion.

No what pisses me off is when JWs bring around children to try to get you to convert.

Many people hear about Jehovah's Witnesses when they learn that a Jehovah's Witness has refused a blood transfusion. The Watchtower Society forbids members from receiving blood transfusions because they believe this is a form of "eating blood," which was forbidden to the Old Testament people of God.

Jehovah's Witnesses also believe it is wrong to serve in the military, to vote, to salute the national flag, or to express any sort of citizenship in this world, since they believe the world will be destroyed and replaced by Christ's kingdom.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not observe Christmas, Good Friday, Easter or family birthdays, believing these celebrations to be pagan festivities. Most Jehovah's Witnesses also avoid dancing, movie-going and watching television.

hahah at least when i donate blood it wont be saving some book bearing jehova.

i believe in the following

1. my godliness
2. the immaculate conception (ie mine)
3. tung's enormous dong
4. ziggy's enormous pr0n stash
5. cheap bandwidth

i think most of the following are viable, that last one is just pure faith though

hehe Gobo...

go the S.T =)


I like religious people. They're often polite, upbeat and positive. Sure, there's bound to be religions that inspire the opposite and worse in people, but hey - that's life.

I work with a Christian bloke, and he's a Saint. Awesome to work with, always helpful, and he actually gives a damn about our customers needs. The poor guy puts himself out in all kinds of ways for both customers and staff alike. This attitude prolly explains why his f***ups go totally un-noticed by the boss and others.

This isn't exactly going to prompt me to goto church this Sunday (there's beers to be drunk, and a computer to play around with :) but I'm not about to dis him for it either. The guy is no fool. He helps more people minute for minute than any person posting on this board ever will. He makes his own judgements, and stands by his mistakes.

In a stressful industry where I see so many 'pass the buck' I really find this to be refreshing.

Religion is a funny thing. I'm not about to pick up all that s*** I left back in Sunday School, but I still believe in one commandment:

Do as you would be done by

My parents always told me "Once you know what God is... you don't need religion". I think they were deffinately onto something.

You're all such a sad bunch of people

as i said, religion is based around one principle, just be f***ing good to everyone, and you will be happy.

being good to people around you shouldn't require a religious justification
its just treating someone how you'd wish to be treated yourself
I think anyone figures out thats the way to go

Only problem with that is... some people are just pricks..

The closer I am to death, the closer I'am to believing

direct quote from the satanic bible:

The Devil has been the best friend that the church has ever had. How else could the church threaten its followers for all these years?

not that i'm a satanist (but i have read the satanic bible), all religions are a load of s***. religious ppl are still worshiping something that is not in the here and now. i think they should get with the times.

thankfully, australians rn't as religious as they were 20 or 30 years ago, and for good reason. there are no wars here in the .au. all of the wars are driven by religion.

its a waste of time if you ask me. the only 2 religions that are good are as follows. qgl and a nice tasty c***.

the only 2 religions that are good are as follows. qgl and a nice tasty c***.

amen

Whenever people ask me what religion I am I say I have no religion, but If I did it would be budism. They worship no god and their goal is to find the path to enlightenment(or some s*** like that).

I, am enlightened.

dinosaurs

but every physicist is stumped as to what was before the big bang, what put the fundamental laws of physics in place to start this chain reaction, could this be the essence of what god is? could 'god' be the fundamental laws of the universe?

if we decide that god is the start of the chain, in order to give a beginning to the chain
then why couldn't we have chosen a simple explanation and said that the universe is the beginning of the chain

naughty tung, creating all these surplus entities :)

there are many theories about what was before the big bang

one is that it was the collapse of a previous universe only to explode again in our big bang

sif there is a god.

stupid christians.

religions are for the weak minded.

agreed. god is the biggest load of s***

Well, this thread is one way of stir up a cauldron of s***... Just make sure that you don't tip the pot. :)

all of the wars are driven by religion.

now, this is the kind of unsubstantiated, over generalised dribble I expected from this forum. There's probably more on this thread, but I couldn't be stuffed reading all of it, got things to do, like sell a turbans with laced with obscene amounts of itching powder.... Though some wars have been started due to religion, but not all.

Anyway here's the obligatory deep insight... an interesting quote I've found a long time back...

"Atheism has never created an artistic masterpiece, healed a fatal disease or evem calmed a fear. Atheism has still never given us the answers to our existance, peace to a troubled mind or even dried a tear."

Quite true really.

one is that it was the collapse of a previous universe only to explode again in our big bang

But that still dosen't explain how everything started. Like what provided the matter for the very first big bang. The universe after all is not unchanging and has limits... Though I guess we'll never find out... some things can't be answered by mere mortals.

Jesus had 40 wives.

agreed. god is the biggest load of s***

Not believing is something is choice (faith), religion is not about right or wrong, GOD/Devil (good/evil), Christianity is not religion. Religion is about spritual enlightenment *insert hippy lovefest*, religion was used to teach values and law, only Christian based religion use fear to enforce their belief system (Hell).

GOD is just a word for a higher being, some religions have lots to choose from, some have none as you the individual strive for perfection, grass hopper.

Finally small story, when my grandma was little girl (1920's) she was not allowed to go see a movie called "Of Things to Come", in which it depicted man flying to the moon, swimming underwater, flying in jets etc etc. My Great GrandMother lived to be 96 and died in 1978, she saw man walk on the moon, caught a jumbo to England and like to watch under water doco's. What she thought was impossible was truely possible.

yea or maybe your just an idiot talking bulls***

great quote fish

also the onus isnt on people to proove god exists, teh onus is on people to disprove god's existence

Anyway here's the obligatory deep insight... an interesting quote I've found a long time back...

"Atheism has never created an artistic masterpiece, healed a fatal disease or evem calmed a fear. Atheism has still never given us the answers to our existance, peace to a troubled mind or even dried a tear."

Quite true really.

I would rather have no answer, than the wrong answer.


(you may quote that for your children)

er fish, religion doesn't doesn't do those things you quoted.
Humans do
duh.
its that kind of crap that i really, really hate, that peoples beliefs make them inferior/etc.

Oh, if anyone wants a laugh by the way, read through like umm leviticus or whatever in the bible theres some funny stuff in there (E.g, people with flat noses, who are lame or blind arn't allowed to worship at the altar of god.. ooh some god right there, or women are worth less than men, and a woman is less pure if she has a daugther than a son, I've never heard such utter bulls*** in my life, unless it comes from people like john howard)


I dunno.. Does anyone here agree that humans could (EVENTUALLY) solve anything (cept for stuff that was lost in the ages etc that isn't recoverable) because thats the strength of human will?

also the onus isnt on people to proove god exists, teh onus is on people to disprove god's existence

umm yes..
so the onus is on you to also disprove HOGSlaskasDASIASLAKW#'s existence
unless of course you want to accept that one exists

Yeah what's with that statement? We build our knowledge by proving the existence of things. We don't start knowing every possible thing, and then slowly disprove them as we go.
Sorry taco, but that is some illogical problem solving methodology you have there.

O if a God Exists I dont think it would do Anything to f*** up its perfectly planed Universe. So praying, preaching, killing, stealing, helping wont make God angery or happy or whatever

basically things would be perfect, however WE stuffed it up, we strayed from god thru sin, this world was ment to be perfect, but we ruined it.

so bascally sin = death, however thats where jesus (son of god) comes into the picture, he came to earth, and basically taught the people the errors of their ways. then he died on the cross as the ultimate sacrafice, he died for all of our sins so that we could have the chance of eternal life in heaven.

i really dont think that anyone is going to change anyones opinions here, but it's worth sharing. i'll offer religion and answer peoples questions, but i'm not forcing anyone to believe it.

also who here believes archimedies existed (yes the smart dude)??? there is actually more factual documents to prove that the bible is true than there is to prove that he was ever around. consider that?

basically things would be perfect, however WE stuffed it up, we strayed from god thru sin, this world was ment to be perfect, but we ruined it.

err.. whatever.

i suppose we have also f***ed up this world by polluting our oceans and cutting down our forests??

so where the f*** in the bible does it say dont cut down forests and drive cars which pollute the environment. NO f***ING WHERE.

come back when you have got some game :)

Jcnot4me

also who here believes archimedies existed (yes the smart dude)??? there is actually more factual documents to prove that the bible is true than there is to prove that he was ever around. consider that?

wow this archimedies guy must be very sparse

i dont see many factual documents showing the events of genisis being true

Then again we could just be being sparse here with our definition of what constitutes factual

of course the bible, is probably historically correct
and there is little doubt that there was a historical jesus

from jc not for me.com

You Christians are stuck living in your "glory days" of yesteryear, never realizing most of that stuff never even took place. If you Christians weren't so pathetic, you'd be funny. You are just like the 850 prophets of Baal, dancing and prancing and trying to get your gods to do something- ANYthing, except this time the role of Elijah is filled by modern Atheists, Agnostics and Freethinkers. Get your god off the friggin toilet and have him DO something, for Christ's sake!!! Please, Christians, enough is enough- it’s way overdue for you guys to put up or shut up. The best evidence FOR a miracle IS a miracle. That is as obvious as the nose on your face. Less talk, more action. Come on, move a mountain- even a cigarette butt or a feather--- we're still waiting!!!

Mark Smith - Jcnot4me

its a hast link, but its very safe

other than the fact, that whoever made the site was prolly suffering from some mental disorder

Don't you think that if God did do sort of miracle, it would be all too easy for people to change their ways and follow His laws? The point is that you need "Faith" and beleive in those things which you can't see but just know are there.

Don't you think that if God did you do sort of miracle, it would be all too easy for people to change their ways and follow His laws? The point is that you need "Faith" and beleive in those things which are can't see but just know are there

my point exactly !
thats why HOGSlaskasDASIASLAKW# doesnt reveal his nature to anyone

The thing is how do you know whether it is a miracle or something you don't understand yet?

If I showed a hologram to some african tribe guy and told him it was from god, I could probably convert him.

If someone showed something more advanced to you and told you it was a miracle, it might work also.

honestly how can you guys bag any religion when most of you have clearly demostrated you have no f***ing clue what you are talking about

Neither does the church!

honestly how can you guys bag any religion when most of you have clearly demostrated you have no f***ing clue what you are talking about

religious threads end up always being so stupid :)
no-one really knows what their arguing about
well at least i dont :)
i mean what exactly is a god?
(especially since you seem to know all the answers)

heh this thread has boilded down to about 4 or 5 guys all saying the same thing and going 'yeah, f*** yeah we are right...we understand all religions and all their concepts'

just what ive noticed...im not very religious

i guess i misjudged you vsft
maybe one of the resident experts on religious matters will be able to explain to me what a god is?

The Watchtower Society forbids members from receiving blood transfusions because they believe this is a form of "eating blood,"

Their loss human blood tastes good.

i dont see many factual documents showing the events of genisis being true

Yeah where are the Dinosaurs it doesn't say "an on the 8th dath he got bored and made big lizzards with big sharp pointy teeth". I think evolution pretty much f***s over any argument for truth in the bible.

an on the 8th dath he got bored and made big lizzards with big sharp pointy teeth

heh
ahhahaahahhah :)

dammit where is squarkyd or yeti skinner to tell us what god is?

maybe one of the resident experts on religious matters will be able to explain to me what a god is?

God is a word that is used in the english translation of the Old Testament. In hebrew, the original language of the old bible, the word in that place is "Elohim" which in jewish means "People of the sky" (notice the plural).

How it ever went from being "People of the sky" to "One dude in a white robe" is beyond my knowledge, but shows what peoples beleifs and interpretations can do to scripture.

"People of the sky"

is a pretty loose term
wouldn't that make astronauts gods?
im pretty sure that astronauts are not meant to be regarded as gods

maybe i should better define my question

what is god's nature?

Perhaps god/s are astronauts. And if an astronaut went to another more primitive planet he would also be considered to be god by them, especially if he did something like give them medicine or something.

God's nature? Do you mean supernatural or physical etc... ? I think my above speculation answers what I think.

Nature

The essential characteristics and qualities of a person or thing: "She was only strong and sweet and in her nature when she was really deep in trouble"

(we all all know where i got this from)

Have you seen "The Chariots of the Gods" Goa'uld? Cause that the sort of thing it talks about. You're not a Raelian please don't be a Raelian?

My feeling is that they were a bunch of scientists from another planet that came and did something here.... parted the land from the water, cast light upon earth, set up an ecosystem. Thus you get the creations metaphors.

SD Gundam... of course I've seen Chariots Of The Gods, who hasn't?
And yes I've read several books by Rael. I tend to find it believable, though even if Rael's story is the truth, that doesn't mean the story given to him by Yahweh is the truth, does it.

My skepticism prevents me from growing my hair long and letting these guys control my thoughts before I have more proof than just one man's testimonial.
So I'm not Raelian - for now.

Hurrah for Buddhism

haha sounds like a few of you should join the church of scientology

No-one is goign to be converting that can't already beleive form there own free will. You have to want to beleive and then good things will happen to you. This is a pointless debate that should end here.

wasn't that scientology cult proven to be a scam by some dude who just wanted to make money?

yup

Here's a compelling argument for Atheism.



Good to see the ugly dude from Milli Vanilli kept in the music biz.

heh, this thread rocks, whoever created it is a genius!

the thing that really s***s me about christianity, is the way the americans interpret it.
like christmas time, the nativity scene...
a beautiful mary is draped a lovely clean blue robe, holding a glowing clean happy perfect child, while a happy farm animals look on with big smiles singing christmas carols. all this happens in a nice warm perfectly tidy stable, with f***ing SNOW falling outside.
forgive me if i am wrong, but isnt bethlahem in the f***ing middle east?!
it is snowing in america that time of year, so it must be the same for the rest of the world....right?

hmmm...americans must be pretty pissed off at the fact that their holy saviour was born in the land of dirty arabs!

the only thing more humorous than a christian, is an american christian.

heh, this thread rocks, whoever created it is a genius!

omg the self-praisal :D

the only thing more humorous than a christian, is an american christian

nuff said

with f***ing SNOW falling outside.

HAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!! SO TRUE!!!

Yeah where are the Dinosaurs it doesn't say "an on the 8th dath he got bored and made big lizzards with big sharp pointy teeth". I think evolution pretty much f***s over any argument for truth in the bible.

But there is a religious cartoon/website that says its not true!!

/end sarcasm

Imagine you are some cheating CS fag on the dole. You sit at home playing CS or downloading porn. Your dole office is in some big building and some bunch of fanatics fly a couple of planes into it/drop a couple of bombs on it or something and suddenly you aren't getting paid anymore.

Next day some guy walks up to you with an ak in his hand and says: "bet ur pretty pissed off about those guys flying those planes into your dole office. Have I got a deal for you."

Your 18 or 19 you play CS all day or dload pr0n so your social skills aren't real great so you don't get laid often. Besides you wouldn't mind trying an ak in real life.

The guy says, "listen, I'll give you this ak and you can go shoot those guys who destroyed your dole office. Even better than that if you die while doing it you'll have 30 virgins all wanting to have sex with you anyway you want it in the afterlife."

"I mean c'mon surely you don't just die and thats it?"

You say: "I'll get to practice your mad ak skills and get laid at the end of it anyway?"

Guy says, "Tell me that isn't a good deal."

So you pick up your ak and head off and go try headshot some people or try run em over with yer jeep and at the end of the day you'll get laid by 30 hot chicks.

Theres ya religon and reasonining. Most of these guys get recruited when they are at this stage of their lives, young and easily influenced. Problem is they don't grow out of this mentality and anyone past this age that join up are just stupid.

Goa'uld:

Have you read VALIS by Phillip K Dick?

If not you should hes the same guy who wrote Bladerunner and Total Recall got all this weird Elohim stuff and other things.

i want to f*** a young italian nun.

is it available on tape?

VALIS, not the nun

i do science at uni and in every subject that was about evolutionary theory the lecturers made a point of saying it was just a theory (albeit the most accepted one for creation and what not)

and that you didn't have to accept it, if you didn't want to

of course you still had to learn it even if you didn't believe it

(Eg, we're not allowed to go to the bathroom, for it is a sin - if a woman gets raped, its her fault - even more, if a woman gets raped and gets pregnant, its HER fault cause she wouldn't have become pregnant if she didn't want to become pregnant, hence wanted to be raped - If a woman is raped in the town center, she is to be put to death - If you have a female slave-concubine thingy with you as a guest in someones house, its their right to rape them.. whole heap of bulls*** like that)

your f***ing KIDDING!? does it really say that in the bible? If so, f*** that.

I dunno, I'm not exactly an every sunday Church Go-er, but I do believe in higher power.

Take a step back and have a quick look at the human structure. We are designed PERFECTLY to pro-create, to further our existence. You have the penis, the vagina, blah blah blah, baby comes out in 9 months... pro-creation. Look at the human body, if taken care of, it works perfectly, stomach digests food that we need to live etc etc etc... maybe i'm just rambling but I sort of can't put my thoughts into words :D

People say that humans came from apes, that came from tiny organisms that have been in the making for millions of years... the universe came from "The Big Bang"... where did the big bang come from? think BEFORE the big bang, who made that? what happened there... sure there's a scientific reason for it, such as "Gas entered the blah blah blah, molecular destruction blah blah blah" but where did the gas come from? where did ALL of that s*** come from?

Science relates around other entities coming together to make something different... where did all the other entities come from?

Sorry if the above doesn't make sense, I can't really describe what I'm thinking... but like I said before, there MUST be a higher power that has some sort of plan for us... this isn't some big f***ing accident

So just because you haven't learnt the science behind it you jump to the conclusion it was caused by the supernatural?

who cares what started the bang?

it has dick all to do with our lives today, and simply putting it down to "god" doesn't really change anything

evolution isn't there to disprove god, its the religious stories that contradict each other that bring the doubt

where did ALL of that s*** come from?

you can't find an adequate explanation of the origin of something
so you create another entity to be responisble for its origin
of course then we have the issue of this new entity(God) and its creation

we could easily say that god doesn't need a creator
but then, we could just of easily of said the universe does not need a creator, and thus we have destroyed the argument for the existence of God because the universe needs a creator
(overly simplistic argument.. ie the universe may have certain properties that forces it to need a creator, and god doesnt? .. of course we would need to know what these properties were :) )

or we could just create another entity called
HOGSlaskasDASIASLAKW#
and say it created God

and then repeat until desired

the moral of the story
creating surplus entities is bad .. ok

Here are a couple of quotes I thought were funny ... they may even relate to this topic somewhat !

There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. --Douglas Adams

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. --Douglas Adams

Is there not something a trifle absurd in the spectacle of human beings holding a mirror before themselves, and thinking what they behold so excellent as to prove that a Cosmic Purpose must have been aiming at it all along? --Bertrand Russell

The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest. --Kilgore Trout

I'm astounded by people who want to 'know' the universe when it's hard enough to find your way around Chinatown. --Woody Allen

Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen and that is the basic building block of the universe. --Frank Zappa

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. --Albert Einstein

my ego keeps the universe from collapsing in on itself

- me

i beleive in quad

I believe in fairy-winkles.

Pharcyde, that s*** in the bible is indeed true

true in a metaphorical sense...
But you cant take the bible literally... thats how people get killed

thats the problem Rommel, so many tards take it literally, I think the bible has some decent enough (even though obvious) things to say
its just when retards go OOH PURTY PAPER

I'm gonna go out on a limb here - who is familiar with the bible code?

bible code?

bible code? i'm a christian and i dont have a clue what ur on about lol

In about 1994 some mathemeticians discovered that if you put the original hebrew bible (Torah) into a computer, it becomes a kind of a "find-a-word" puzzle.

Embedded into the bible is a 2-dimensional array of equidistent codes which spell out different important world events. A search for the word "John F Kennedy" (in heberew) is crossed with the name of his killer, the word 'assassin', and the date.
Hundreds of events and names were found with relevance to each other.

They calculated the probability of such an anomoly being just a fluke. They tested hundreds of novels, and scriptures, and even the new testament, and none of them showed this computer 'code'.
Only the Old Testament and the Dead Sea Scrolls showed this property.

When the bible was originally copied, if someone stuffed up one line in it, the whole page had to be destroyed. It's almost as if this was intended to keep the syntax of the code correct through the generations.

For some people this is more evidence that God exists, for others this is more evidence that he doesn't.

Anyway the main mathematician found the name of the Israeli prime minister in the bible on his community and also found things that said an assassin would kill him. He warned Yhitzak Rabin (sp?) about it, and the prime minister cancelled a trip he had planned.
The mathematician double checked the date of the assassination in the bible and also found diagonally written "you have delayed it" or something.
And a year later Yhitzak Rabin was assasinated.

The trouble is it is very hard to find things in the code unless you know what you are looking for. And another drawback is that it doesn't work in the english translated version of the bible, plus all the dates need to be adjusted to the old hebrew calander.

The theory is that the bible is more than just a book, it is something that is supposed to reveal more information as time goes on... like a timelock security system.

You can read the basics when you learn how to read.
You can find out a bit more when you develop the technology and mathematical knowledge to search large 2-dimensional arrays.

Who knows what will happen if some other technology comes along and processes the bible?

If you don't believe anything I've said, do a google search for "bible code" and I'm sure you'll find some more credibility to this.

You should see the movie "The Omega Code" It is basically along the lines of this Bible Code that was mentioned.

so someone/something knew he was gonna find it
misinterpret it / not read it all
and tell him and delay it

hmm

That sounds like coincidence to me Goa'uld bit like an infinte nuber of monkeys on an infinite number of typewritters. Really big book with lots of words treated as 2d array spells out what ever you want. Make it infinitly big and the entire history of the universe will be worded out diagonly, to the atom if you run it thru a computer.

The bible codes were a bad joke. You can find similar things in any text you like.

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/torah.html

BIBLE CODE ISNT THAT POWERFUL COMPARED TO
[ben@tuxwall ben]$ grep -ia "kennedy*assassinated" /dev/urandom
Ìíö=?ÿSµ¼y¶?k`-¥>4f³ºåzGa0A1X¹ió=íµÃG[N¡ä]¼¿Ìør3njzæáH¨é|§¬'Ñ[î7FÙå¾<Æ9YíAÏ©c¹+Û¡Vî·ù~óξ¢­8Ó-fro:Å?×SL.ëI©ùÖÌüQ)*;q,2Ù¥0Zå ìÐÆÓ?î­*»{ïŵGE
(abridged version of the output)

now all we have to do is break the secret code of /dev/urandom to unlock the secrets of the universe

OMG OMG OMG

LINUS TVARDOS HARDCODED THE PAST, PRESENT AND THE FUTURE INTO THE LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM

look here u go ...

in the begining god created 2 people

god created adam and eve

they had 2 kids kane and able

kane killed able

the left adam and eve

couple of years later he comes back with a bride with whom he had kids with

ok now how the f*** did kane get a bride if god only created 2 people where the f*** did the bs woman kane found come from ... huh ... nowhere?

the answer is there is no answer because its bs and the person shouldnt have existed !!!!

there u have it folks a fatal error in the bible in the first chapter religion is bs

BTW i dont h8 people who believe in religion, infact i respect your views and honour your devotion however i dont believe in it

THE END

fark strex, u musta been bored if u thought this post was actually a GOOD idea.. All i know is that my whole family's christian but me, i'm a firm believer in Jebus, god of dod, he saves me whenever i call him..well, most of the time. SaAaVe Me JeEeBuUuUuUuS!!?!? he's my hero, i'm tryin to get him to sign my panties.

yea religion sucks ass its for the weak and miss guided people who need somthing to get them through life its a big lot of s*** ,,,yea god made my great grandfather haha what alot of s*** who is god there is no GOD you tools you just beleive every thing your told ,,think about it where is he som wanker wrote the bible to suck yous all in ,,"oh god lets have a few more dinosaurs hey come on bring them back your the man arnt you cant you click somthing and then its there rofl ,,,,,,,,RELIGION causes wars its the greatest bit of s*** in this world!"

And when floods sweep through low lying areas and destroys everything that a family owns, They look to their faith and they have hope. Thats what is good about religion.

Keep in mind im not religious, thats just an observation

oh man god is as bad as sollog hahahah but then again who the f*** is god !