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Topic: Avalanche Chooses "Generic" American Actor to Voice Mad Max,...
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 5903
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Mad Max was a bit of a surprise to see out at E3 this year, and I'd be lying if I said I'd never wanted to play a game based in that universe -- it's ripe for the videogame picking, after all with everything the first two films gave us.

What thoroughly irked me during the presentation of the game by new developer, Avalanche Studios (it was originally being worked on by KMM's in-house, Sydney-based games studio), was that Max was voiced by an American. In fact, it was really uncomfortable to sit through given the studio talked passionately about treating cars and car-combat in the game with respect given the movie heritage and its impact on pop-culture.

I asked them after the presentation what the decision behind that was, and if they'd change it, but was met with "we wanted someone generic", and a bit of a shrug regarding any sort of reverence to the character in the same way they're giving vehicles.

So we've started a petition.

Max is an important part of Australian cinema and pop-culture history, even globally. The character's man-of-few words persona made (admittedly US-born) Mel Gibson's Australian accent a hugely memorable and significant factor of the films. All we're asking is that Avalanche look for an Australian voice-actor who can channel the stoic film icon, and treat the property with the respect it deserves. If you feel the same way, please check out our petition on Change.org and get as many people involved as possible.

For more on the game, check out our game page and stay tuned for impressions of what Avalanche is doing beyond ignoring the importance of Max, soon.
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natslovR
Posts: 8225
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Even a kiwi speaking aussie would do
Fasty
Posts: 69
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

How much of the rest of the game seemed true to the movie universe? The quick e3 trailer didn't really give me a Mad Max vibe at all. Indeed, it all felt rather "generic".
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 21401
Location: Wynnum, Queensland

I'd rather go with an American voice. I always cringe when I hear an Aussie accent in movies when all the other accents are American. Just sounds wrong.
groganus
Posts: 2585
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The worst version of the mad max films are the ones the Americans dubbed... Sadly most the people outside of Australia heard this poor dubbing rather than the original Australian Actors voices.. :(
Fasty
Posts: 70
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

That's called cultural cringe, it's not a good thing, and worthwhile getting over. Took me a while to do too.
eski
Posts: 1644
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Yeah, the voice actors in FF13 and Uncharted 3 were f***ing horrid, and the chick in Uncharted was an Aussie, yet she didnt sound like anyone I've ever met.
Fasty
Posts: 71
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Just read the petition, really well written! Signing right now.
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 4232
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you might want to also get a post up on /r/gaming/ might get more exposure/signatures..

just a suggestion.
deadlyf
Posts: 3154
Location: Queensland

Why can't they just make the game the way they want and you not buy it?
justrev
Posts: 441
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

If we spoke another language we would hear our own accent on all translated games, it's not right that we don't have Australian casts for more games.
I am so sick of hearing Americans telling me what to do.
Sometimes I turn off the voices and use the closed captioning
HurricaneJim
Posts: 1453
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

The appropriate accent for the character;

In World of Tanks they have pseudo Belarusian-American voice acting for all the tanks, Weird in American Tanks, totally wrong in British tanks, Stupid in Russian, insulting in German and really dumb in French and Chinese tanks.

Having Max as an American is just pig ingnorant.
Fasty
Posts: 72
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Actually... remembering the TERRIBLE accents and voice acting in Just Cause 2, maybe we should be thankful they're not including an "Australian" one in Mad Max
tel
Posts: 134
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I was horrified when i heard that they dubbed the Mad Max movie for an American release, talk about ruining a cult classic. Same with the game, it won't be the real Mad Max will it.
groganus
Posts: 2586
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I was horrified when i heard that they dubbed the Mad Max movie for an American release, talk about ruining a cult classic. Same with the game, it won't be the real Mad Max will it.


You do understand that its a cult classic all over the world, not just in Australia.. Thus the dubbing is part of the classicness... We Australians are just snobs and don't like our s*** meddled with, but to everyone else this is going to seem normal.]

I'd love to see Australian voice work in lots of games, but we don't really have that many big studios around any more that could potentially lead the way with this kind of thing.

I'm perfectly fine with MadMax being an american in the game, id rather see the game have success world wide than just itty bitty Australia.. lets face it, we will be the only ones who care.
mouser
Posts: 4
Location:

I want John Jarratt to voice this
ThunderBunny
Posts: 13
Location:

whats wrong with not wanting our s*** meddled with? this is another axample of americanisation. we have to put up with their annoying accent in every form of media. why cant we insist on keeping ours untouched. ignorance!
Deemsee
Posts: 27
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Dev's are pissing all over a lot of IPs right now....Batman Origins, Metal Gear V, not much surprise they are doing it again. Has even a single petition ever work in these circumstances? Nope.

I'm pretty sure that the creator of the characters, James McCausland, is an Aussie - this is the guy you want to protest to the Devs!
Deemsee
Posts: 28
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Sorry for the double post - but this s*** makes me livid.

Vote with your wallet people. I'm pretty sure there is a line in Mad Max (one of 'em) ...'Money talks...bulls*** walks...'
E.T.
Posts: 4634
Location: Queensland

This guy could pull this off I reckon

http://www.youtube.com/embed/grh0tlJtViw

last edited by Dan at 13:14:00 19/Jun/13
Scooter
Posts: 6260
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Can you imagine someone trying/having an 'Aussie Occa' accent in a game?
f*** listening to that noise, generic is fine by me.
ThunderBunny
Posts: 14
Location:

I don't recall anyone whinging about the british sas characters in COD actually having british voices. Infact they worked well and would be an insult if they were any other accent than what is fitting to the characters. The assumption that an Australian voice for an Australian character can be nothing other than some westie bogan is absurd.
kos
Posts: 2737
Location: Germany

Can you imagine someone trying/having an 'Aussie Occa' accent in a game? f*** listening to that noise, generic is fine by me.

Why does it have to be 'Aussie Occa' or nothing with Australian accents though? It's just that it's primarily used to push a stereotype.

It is possible to have an authentic Australian accent without the person talking exclusively out of their nose and constantly saying things like "yer a f***in' carrrnt, mate".
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 5904
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

We're getting off topic here - last time I watched Mad Max, he never sounded like that, nor said s*** like "yer a f***in' carrrnt, mate"
kos
Posts: 2738
Location: Germany

But that was the point. People are saying that they'd rather generic American over people talking like that, as though it's the only option if you have an Australian actor voice the character.
Dan
Special Text
Posts: 14448
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It really is bollocks that Australian actors can't be handled just fine in a big budget game, there just seems to be a big corporate focus-group mentality that they won't be as popular to the primary US market.

Sadly the only good remotely recent example I can think of is Chloe Frazer in Uncharted, voiced by Claudia Black, completely non-bogan, natural and refined Australian accent that didn't ham it up.

It's kind of s*** that they didn't have Yvonne Strahovski with her natural accent as Miranda in Mass Effect, as other humans in that game have an assortment of accents, so wouldn't have been out of place.Edit: I'm a derp, she did, and it seems it was so not out-of-place that I recalled it incorrectly.
Taipan
Posts: 4254
Location: USA

The worst version of the mad max films are the ones the Americans dubbed... Sadly most the people outside of Australia heard this poor dubbing rather than the original Australian Actors voices.. :(



Yep i totally agree, i had the misfortune of seeing the american dubbed version for the first and last time only just last week and it was frigging horrible.

Who ever said even a kiwi would be ok needs a kick in the balls. No kiwi ever sounded ok .... ever. Actually that would have to be a troll surely.
fpot
Posts: 22969
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

Zoe Bell sounds pretty alright to me.
Hollow Gr4m
Posts: 19
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

WTF man. How can people be against having an Australian Accent, talk about self hate. There are plenty of nice aussie male accents you could use, something along the lines of Hugh Jackman or something. I thought Miranda was Australian in ME2? Is she seriously meant to be something else? Sounds completely Aussie to me.
Hollow Gr4m
Posts: 20
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Also this isn't just about accents, this is the best chance Australia has EVER had to be put on the video game map, finally a game could be set here and no, they f*** it up, just so stupid. I'm so disappointed.
Dan
Special Text
Posts: 14449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

You're right about Miranda Hollow Gr4m. I feel like a knob for being that wrong, but kind of vindicated by the fact that she obviously seemed completely natural in the game, and proves the point for me that Max with an Australian accent should be similarly fine.

I might look into matters more and see if I can drum up an article on Australian voice actors in videogames. I didn't play it, but Strahovski did her Chuck/Dexter cali accent in The 3rd Birthday, and I recall Anna Torv puts on the faux-British fantasy accent as Nariko in Heavenly Sword (which amusingly was replicated by every-game US voice actor Jennifer Hale for PlayStation All-stars).

As for who could actually play the voice of Max. Surely there's no shortage of viable candidates in the US film industry. Not going to be delusional enough to think they could spring for someone like Guy Pearce, or Eric Bana, but someone like Ryan Kwanten, or Liam McIntyre, or probably half of the Spartacus cast for that matter.
WetWired
Posts: 6189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

What kind of accent is in the new movie? I guess that would dictate what the game voice should be?
ravn0s
Posts: 17120
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
tom hardy is the new mad max. not sure if he's using his brit accent or not.
ThunderBunny
Posts: 15
Location:

tom hardy in a bain mask playing humungus would work for me: "just walk away, and we will spare your lives".
Taipan
Posts: 4257
Location: USA

Lol i think youre onto something there bane as humungous would be spot on :-)
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 4236
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think News.com.au read QGL
Taipan
Posts: 4258
Location: USA

I was about to mention that myself, just ran across the story and saw that Steve got a mention.
ThunderBunny
Posts: 17
Location:

Avalanche Studios said the new game was a "different take" on the Down Under post-apocalyptic classic.

So call it something else!
Mives
Posts: 25
Location: Victoria

Why not have a British accent Captain America? Indian accent Punisher? Swedish accent for Wolverine? Doesn't fit does it. Max Rockatansky is as much a super hero here in our pop culture as anything else created and pushed around the world. He is Australian, existing in a post apocalyptic Australia. The films have been and continue to be marketed as such. Dubbing or not.

Petition signed.
Deemsee
Posts: 29
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

eski, that's Claudia Black - definitely an aussie - and dead set gorgeous too. She was told to play a quasi aussie-south african - brit and she nailed it too.
Taipan
Posts: 4259
Location: USA

She's a Brisbane girl isnt she?
ravn0s
Posts: 17126
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nope, she's from sydney.
Khel
Posts: 20904
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I actually always thought she was from New Zealand. How unaustralian of me.
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 5905
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

We're going to be on ABC Radio Broken Hill shortly to discuss the petition

http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 4239
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
We're going to be on ABC Radio Broken Hill shortly to discuss the petition

has this happened?
eski
Posts: 1650
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Can we not do this? The rest of the world saw the US dub and doesnt care about Australian accents and Avalanche have a horrible track record on VA. It just make Australians look like crazy people who can't tolerate other accents.
shade
Posts: 113
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

you realize they didn't even FILM the latest one in australia but africa, a VA for a game is really insignificant when you consider that fact. Our high dollar is really making it bad for foreign companies to come here
kos
Posts: 2752
Location: Germany

shade you're looking at it from and economic standpoint, whereas the argument here is from a cultural standpoint.

I would consider the location of filming to be distantly secondary to the setting, theme and actors/characters. Movies are filmed in all sorts of weird locations without it affecting the culture or theme of the stories (eg. the many movies filmed in Australia - in the 1990s and 2000s when the dollar was low - that were very much American).
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