Optus pricing:

Can't see any info there about handset repayments though???

hmmm I really, really wanted an iphone 4 - mainly because I rekon they look awesome sauce and secondly because 'it just works' heh I know that's lame, but frankly I'm not going to customise the fuck outta it like you can with android phones.

and realistically apple have the runs on the board with the 3g and 3gs being awesome phones and there are apps for nearly everything!

The plans don't mention an MRO. Where'd you get that idea, or why is Telstra not mentioning this?

teq's already walking around like a half open pocket knife in anticipation for this, he'll be there at midnight for sure

loools, I'll be @ Telstra getting one this Friday come 9am ;)

I'll be waiting for the white one. My poor black 3G can just keep chugging along till then.

I'll be waiting for the white one. My poor black 3G can just keep chugging along till then.

Did you see there are production issues with the white one? It won't be ready until the end of the year/next year. something about there is no carbon in white plastic therefore it is weaker and it's causing some sort of production issues.

I'll try to find the article I read with the info

my 3gs has turned to shit since ios4 came out.

locks up at least once a week and 3-4 times a week the UI lags so bad it is easier to just turn it off and reboot it than to wait for it to catch up.

absolute rubbish, but i guess it just works.. oh wait a second.. it doesn't

My 3GS is fine. Maybe try a Restore??

Just got this email from Optus.

http://heardy.net/qgl/iphone4.xps

I used the internal document printer within win7 to create that file

EDIT and there was this in the SMH - http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/iphone/iphone-4-australian-launch-guide-20100727-10t65.html

That Optus $59 plan looks the goods .. generally use my work mobile for all calls but NEED it to trade on the WoW auction house. I am the only one in my family that does not have an iPhone - I give in to the beast!

http://www.cnet.com.au/optus-and-apple-release-iphone-4-pricing-339304800.htm

Just called optus and my contract expires in December, and apparently I can only break contract in september. Now my wife will have an iphone 4 before I do :(

optus has the worst 3g network this side of jupiter
fuck optus and their blackholes that they know about + won't fix
I'm going to pay the extra $10 for a service I can actually use where ever I might be

Heya, why are you guys interested in iPhone 4?

It just seems to me like such a poor choice considering the Android handsets available now.

I read Heardy's comment about aesthetics, and that's a pretty good reason if you think the phone looks good. At the end of the day you have to use the bastard though, and Android phones are a lot more flexible.

Heardy, you say that you don't want to 'customise the fuck' out of it but noone is making you do that. Yeah, it's an option for those that like to hack, but I haven't even touched any of my HTC Desire customisation features or rooted the phone (yet...I'm a hacker at heart, I will eventually no doubt).

Just to be clear for the TL;DR people: I can't think of any functional reason why you would prefer and iPhone 4. Feel free to enlighten me.

The main reason to get an Android handset is that Android has all the momentum now and the development system is very open compared to Apple. It doesn't matter that you are not a developer, what matters is that it's attracting more and more developers who are making applications that you can use!

Source: AdMob Metrics

Heardy, you say that you don't want to 'customise the fuck' out of it but noone is making you do that. Yeah, it's an option for those that like to hack, but I haven't even touched any of my HTC Desire customisation features or rooted the phone (yet...I'm a hacker at heart, I will eventually no doubt).

I haven't done any customiation on my Nexus One and I reckon it kicks the living shit out of the iPhone even just from the perspective that I never have to use iTunes to do anything with it ever. The only area I reckon it falls down in is games quality and variety but I don't really care about that that much and I reckon it'll get resolved soon anyway.

It just seems to me like such a poor choice considering the Android handsets available now.

Just to be clear for the TL;DR people: I can't think of any functional reason why you would prefer and iPhone 4. Feel free to enlighten me.

my iPhone connects to my macbook, my mac mini, my airport express
I can control different music zones in the house, I can play media from the couch using any iphone in the house, from anywhere using the wireless 'net provided by the express

I can tell my mac mini, via my iphone over wireless, to "turn on" the speakers that are plugged into the airport express and play music from any itunes library in the house

the "me.com" service is completely in a league of its own
being able to track your phone anywhere, disable it, wipe it's contents, play a sound to it even if its on silent mode should you lose it down the side of the couch or in your backyard/car/where ever

Pinky, while I'm still planning on checking out an Android phone before I get the iPhone 4, I highly doubt I'll be swayed. Some of the reasons are that I already have the iPhone set up exactly how I want it, I've used iTunes for years and I quite like it, and I've already invested cash in apps to do what I want to accomplish. On top of that, I am definitely considering getting an iPad (most likely the 2nd gen), which means better integration. As for functionally, I have tinkered with trog's Nexus, and it's a nice phone and all, but it's simply not as nice to use as the iPhone.

Also, while I appreciate the importance of what Google and Android stand for, I'm not buying a device for ideological reasons. I respect when people do that, but, personally, I'm all for Apple's domination of the world if it means I keep getting beautiful shiny devices that really suit my life and productivity.

As for that graph you posted, I'm pretty sure it's been posted before and we all decided it was quite misleading based on the way they collected their data.

my iPhone connects to my macbook, my mac mini, my airport express
I can control different music zones in the house, I can play media from the couch using any iphone in the house, from anywhere using the wireless 'net provided by the express

I can tell my mac mini, via my iphone over wireless, to "turn on" the speakers that are plugged into the airport express and play music from any itunes library in the house

the "me.com" service is completely in a league of its own
being able to track your phone anywhere, disable it, wipe it's contents, play a sound to it even if its on silent mode should you lose it down the side of the couch or in your backyard/car/where ever

Sounds like lots of hard work over nothing.

MatchFixah, do I need to refer you to that billion page thread where all the android users was asking basic questions like "how do I get rid of these Telstra ads?"

iPhone car key looks another good reason to get this phone