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Nathan
Posts: 3525
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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| #180 08:00am 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 435
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nathan, did you root your device to get that or is that android 1.6 or?
326 PPI is awesome. looks really nice tbh. but ur missin out on widgets! last edited by iTOM at 08:27:14 31/Jul/10 |
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| #181 08:27am 31/07/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3526
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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nathan, did you root your device to get that or is that android 1.6 or? Its called "WidgetLocker" on the marketplace, costs $1.99 and doesn't require root. I'm running 2.2, but it works on 2.1 as well. As you might guess from the name, its a replacement lockscreen that lets you stick any of your installed widgets on the lockscreen. The messages widget is from the "Handcent SMS" application - the up/down arrow actually work right on the lockscreen which is great, can quickly flick through messages. The time+date widget and weather widget are from the stock install. The fish in the background are from the animated "Aquarium Live Wallpaper" application. looks really nice tbh Yeh definitely, LG did a great job on the iPhone screen. From what I've read the Android 2.x series simply doesn't support higher than 800x480 which is why we haven't seen any movement in resolution on Android phones. Android 3.0 is expected to address this in October with support for 1280x720 displays. I suppose we'll start seeing actual hardware ship early next year. |
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| #182 08:36am 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 436
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Thanks Nathan, I'll check it out. Handcent is great - there's nothing better than the 'quick reply' ability (for others, it pops up the sms to reply while your phone is locked).
Edit: Along with other functionality too. |
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| #183 08:35am 31/07/10 |
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natslovR
Posts: 6799
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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So I've received two calls on my 4g (it's been off for 24 hours while the bodyguardz dries) and the first call dropped out after barely two minutes. I looked at my hand and I was holding it with my right hand fingers gripping across the left gap.
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| #184 08:41am 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 437
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Nathan, are you aware of an app that replaces the Android 2.1 'slide down' unlock function (apart from Lock 2.0)? It's quite frustrating that it can unlock itself.
edit: I guess there is no point to a thin phone when you need a bumper :< edit2: Don't worry - Widgetlocker does what I need :) last edited by iTOM at 08:50:19 31/Jul/10 |
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| #185 08:50am 31/07/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3527
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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Nathan, are you aware of an app that replaces the Android 2.1 'slide down' unlock function (apart from Lock 2.0)? I think perhaps you're referring to some part of HTC's Sense UI? I dont have a Desire. As far as I can tell, I do not see any way with WidgetLocker to slide down to unlock. |
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| #186 08:52am 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 438
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Sorry - I got confused. I hate the slide down ><
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| #187 08:54am 31/07/10 |
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Opec
Posts: 6681
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So I've received two calls on my 4g (it's been off for 24 hours while the bodyguardz dries) and the first call dropped out after barely two minutes. I looked at my hand and I was holding it with my right hand fingers gripping across the left gap. Ah oh that't not good :/ This is what I was worrying about the new iPhone...... Is it a consistent thing? Or maybe you're in a bad reception area?. Cause I'm need to decide what I need to get for my mum soon... |
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| #188 09:07am 31/07/10 |
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natslovR
Posts: 6800
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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I've never had problems sitting at my PC and talking on my phone (3g) before, which is where it happened. When looking at it now (sitting at my desk where I got the dropped call) it has 3 bars when held up or on my desk and and 2 bars when on my desk near my speakers (out of 5). I'm pretty sure the 3G reported full bars in here always - no way to check now my old sim doesn't work. |
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| #189 10:33am 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 440
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I think perhaps you're referring to some part of HTC's Sense UI? I dont have a Desire. As far as I can tell, I do not see any way with WidgetLocker to slide down to unlock. hmm, i found an option under look & feel > slider How did you remove camera & the blank item opposite it from your lock screen? |
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| #190 11:09am 31/07/10 |
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3dee
Posts: 5560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Telstra messed up my data pack. They gave me the original 500MB pack instead of the 50% discounted 1GB. Heads be rollin'! |
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| #191 11:35am 31/07/10 |
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weedy
Posts: 325
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Lets get a few things straight the iPhone 4 is not leading the market in phone OS development the first version of android came out with folders and its taken iphone this long just to get that functionality in ios4. iPhone 4 still doesn't have widgets thats easily my favorite feature in my phone. The only think Apple has going for it is its warranty imho. My HTC has been in the shop for over 1 1/2 months so i doubt ill be getting another one. Optus advised me they are going to credit me back the money i pay for each month the phone is getting repaired. I was thinkin bout getting Apple iphone 4 but after seeing the antenna issues on youtube i aint going to now. Its important to consider when your buying a phone its not just about the OS but the manufacturer as well, i wont get another HTC but ill will probably get a Motorola as my old Razr has been a absolute life saver in the past 5 years when other newer phones are failing. My HTC first had no bluetooth out of the box, took it back same day and got a replacement, within 6 months speaker had died, now its 12 months as wireless is dead. I'm lucky i got an extended warranty make sure you do the same if your getting HTC. |
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| #192 12:07pm 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 442
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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WOrked it out - change the slider layout. I've actually disabled the slider and now with 'easy wake' I press teh optical button twice and it unlocks my phone :D
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| #193 03:17pm 31/07/10 |
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Charlie
Posts: 1770
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Lets get a few things straight the iPhone 4 is not leading the market in phone OS development the first version of android came out with folders and its taken iphone this long just to get that functionality in ios4. iPhone 4 still doesn't have widgets thats easily my favorite feature in my phone. I had folders on my 3g running pre 3.0 with an app (non store app don't give me the "but you had to jailbrakeeeeeeeeeee shouldn't neeed to" crap, I need to root my Android to have it do things I want also). RE the HTC warranty, the new ones come with 24 months I believe. I'm not really happy with HTC either, if I get another android I'll be looking elsewhere. |
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| #194 04:42pm 31/07/10 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 10939
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I phoned Optus and they've stopped being dicks with their new plans and won't charge to tether. |
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| #195 05:28pm 31/07/10 |
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Eds
Posts: 9508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Reasons I did not get a desire after trying it for 3 weeks
* From what I have read it is the only platform that does not require approval or testing to be published to the market place, leading to the crappy ad filled apps I saw * Speakers were very tinny and rather staticy at large volumes * Very difficult to read in daylight, which was really frustrating. * Battery life was average, I did expect more * My experiance setting up exchange was quite painful but eventually got there but had outgoing issues for a while that no one could solve. * It was almost....TOO customizable, for me personally I couldnt give a s*** about half the customizations. Just saying, while the iPhone 4 is not perfect, neither is the desire and Android |
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| #196 10:46pm 31/07/10 |
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3dee
Posts: 5562
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Apple doesn't let through information stealing "photo" apps to millions of users. |
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| #197 11:27pm 31/07/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 443
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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From what I have read it is the only platform that does not require approval or testing to be published to the market place, leading to the crappy ad filled apps I saw this may be the case, but all the apps ive installed are recommended by forum users/websites, i don't just casually download random apps from the market place (as you probably don't download random exe files from the internet ;) ) |
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| #198 12:06am 01/08/10 |
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euphoria
Posts: 1789
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Yes, but your PC has AV and firewall to warn you when any app starts doing stuff it shouldn't. A phone with untested apps is going to need the same as well. Damn, I may have just solved my own personal iPhone or HTC Desire dilemma. |
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| #199 08:17am 01/08/10 |
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Skitza
Posts: 9091
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Tried the death grip last night on the iPhone 4 and on Telstra you can see it happen in front of you so it's not all bs, whether ot not you get dropped calls is another thing. In two minds now. |
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| #200 09:12am 01/08/10 |
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Eds
Posts: 9509
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How are you holding it ? As I said I only dropped 1 bar so I would like to try and replicate it
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| #201 09:14am 01/08/10 |
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deadlyf
Posts: 1091
Location: Queensland
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Apple doesn't let through information stealing "photo" apps to millions of users.Was that sarcasm or are you forgetting that app that uploaded peoples photos to the interwebs for online storage and then proceeded to have a total lack of security so anyone could view your personal pics. But yeah it's hard to really separate Android from HTC at the moment which is a shame since HTC is the worst phone manufacturer on the market. The Android platform on Motorolla and Sony phones doesn't get as much press because they aren't releasing a new version every 5 minutes which is probably what helps to contribute to them making quality devices. Before HTC started shipping with Android no one in their right mind would touch them. Actually when you think about it Android fits well with HTC since a HTC phone has a life expectancy of about 6 months it coincides nicely with Android OS updates. |
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| #202 10:16am 01/08/10 |
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Eds
Posts: 9510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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since HTC is the worst phone manufacturer on the market. you don't know a lot about the HTC history. remember O2? imate? other smart phones like that? that was all HTC I still have a few old HTC phones here still going strong, there is nothing wrong with them at all. last edited by Eds at 10:34:54 01/Aug/10 |
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| #203 10:34am 01/08/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3528
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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Apple doesn't let through information stealing "photo" apps to millions of users. Apple reviewers are not magic, nor do they have any specific policy guarding your privacy? I'm not sure why you quoted "photo"; you are referring to one of many real applications that have hidden behaviour that can upload your information - ie, spyware. Often this is done under the guise of targetted advertising. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100728/ap_on_re_us/us_tec_techbit_apps_privacy "Lookout found that nearly a quarter of the iPhone apps and almost half the Android apps contained software code that contained those capabilities." A phone with untested apps is going to need the same as well. Android is actually far better than your PC's anti-virus software and Apple's model, because during install it will tell you exactly what capabilities the software has. Does your wallpaper application want permission to read your SMS? Then dont install it. Neither Apple nor Google have strict rules about what information applications can read from your phone that I know of, but at least on Android you are told exactly what each application has permission to do on your phone. Tried the death grip last night on the iPhone 4 and on Telstra you can see it happen in front of you so it's not all bs, whether ot not you get dropped calls is another thing. In two minds now. From what I've read its been well established overseas that the iphone4 "death grip" will reduce signal strength by 20dB; whether that actually causes problems depends on the signal strength in your location. If you have less than 4 bars, it will probably drop the call. |
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| #204 04:35pm 01/08/10 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 10949
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If you have less than 4 bars, it will probably drop the call. Found this site quite interesting: http://www.metalev.org/2010/07/android-vs-iphone-4-signal-strength.html Not sure how it works though... cause I often when I talk on my phone there are only one or two bars. |
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| #205 05:08pm 01/08/10 |
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3dee
Posts: 5567
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I downsized 1080p Star Trek to 960x400 (1:1 resolution) and the picture is pixel perfect and crystal clear. I can barely make out the details. |
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| #206 06:03pm 01/08/10 |
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Martz
Posts: 2870
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Will this antenna issue be fixed in the near future or are apple planning on selling these things as they are till iphone "5"???
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| #207 09:36pm 02/08/10 |
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Charlie
Posts: 1785
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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since HTC is the worst phone manufacturer on the market. I'd second this, atleast for the Desire. I'm loving the OS and whatnot but the phone is starting to give me the s***s. Crashes, takes ages to pickup wifi and 3G, headphone out is s***, loudspeaker is worse then my programmable casio calculator in school 15 years ago, can't view the screen outdoors etc etc. |
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| #208 09:43pm 02/08/10 |
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Skitza
Posts: 9093
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How are you holding it ? As I said I only dropped 1 bar so I would like to try and replicate it I was holding it with all 5 fingers just spread evenly around the phone and abit in my palm, hard to explain, how you normally would hold the phone :) I cupped it and even held it tight near the split area on the left hand side and I was watching the signal bars drop. You let it go and it starts to come back. |
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| #209 10:22pm 02/08/10 |
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Mr.Bumpy
Posts: 301
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Thought I'd give a heads-up to those considering switching or re-contracting with Telstra. IPHONE 4: Telstra bumping plans to 6GB So basically you can swap out the data on the plan for a browsing pack of your choice and pay only 50% - great for those wanting to go on a lower priced cap, but get a much higher data cap for not much more. I'm tempted myself, but I think I'll go for the $49 Business Cap Plan which has $400 worth of calls and text plus 200MB of data (extra 1Gb data free every month for length of contract if you sign up before August 31st!!!). The handset is $149 upfront for the 16GB iPhone 4 or $299 for the 32GB. |
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| #210 03:59pm 04/08/10 |
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funky
Posts: 740
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Charlie - that's pretty odd, I haven't had any of those problems with my desire? Hasn't crashed once, wifi turns on when I walk in the door at home, 3G turns on as soon as i touch the widget (maybe a half second delay), headphones have worked perfectly, loudspeaker works (it isn't great, but who the hell uses loudspeaker anyway) and my screen is viewable outdoors on max brightness, sure it's a bit reflective but if you can't view the screen outside at all you are doing it wrong.
anyway, the iPhone 4 sure is sexy, and I was looking at it too, but decided to try the android thing this time around! |
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| #211 04:28pm 04/08/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3538
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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Pretty sweet deal on data Mr.Bumpy, anyone know if the 50% off data is restricted to iPhones ? |
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| #212 04:30pm 04/08/10 |
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Python
Posts: 603
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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Hrmm
I'm looking at getting a new phone, currently on a blackberry storm (work phone :E) but I'll be getting a new one soon! I get to pick whatever phone I want including the iphone 4. So many good new phones now :O |
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| #213 04:36pm 04/08/10 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 10962
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How the hell could you juice 6gig in a month on an iPhone?? |
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| #214 05:06pm 04/08/10 |
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Mr.Bumpy
Posts: 302
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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How the hell could you juice 6gig in a month on an iPhone?? People who tether... |
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| #215 05:27pm 04/08/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3539
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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Or you could just stream a lot of music / video |
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| #216 05:35pm 04/08/10 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 18504
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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stupid question, but can't you buy the iphone 4 online with Telstra? I went to the site and couldn't see it, but I probably missed it. |
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| #217 05:47pm 04/08/10 |
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Eds
Posts: 9514
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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No you can't, store only at the moment
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| #218 06:22pm 04/08/10 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 10963
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How the hell could you juice 6gig in a month on an iPhone??People who tether... Given the speeds, I would have thought using 6gig is even a stretch when tethering regularly??? Or you could just stream a lot of music / video That's a LOT of streaming, especially considering some sites like YouTube don't count... If streaming audio at 128kbps, my calculations (which could be wrong) work out that you need to stream almost 4 hours of audio per day seven days a week to hit 6gig... which seems strange, considering you'd be using an mp3 player to do it. |
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| #219 07:13pm 04/08/10 |
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BillyHardball
Posts: 10964
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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stupid question, but can't you buy the iphone 4 online with Telstra? I went to the site and couldn't see it, but I probably missed it. Apparently if you buy online with Optus you get the first two months of the plan for free. |
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| #220 07:13pm 04/08/10 |
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Eds
Posts: 9515
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah, and a crap network to boot
Given the speeds, I would have thought using 6gig is even a stretch when tethering regularly??? I was downloading tethered at around 280kb/s today ,easy to chew threw it :) |
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| #221 07:40pm 04/08/10 |
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3dee
Posts: 5575
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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6GB on a laptop ain't hard. |
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| #222 08:45pm 04/08/10 |
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jmr
Posts: 6818
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I've seen 500KB/sec Tethered
You can chew THROUGH it |
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| #223 08:50pm 04/08/10 |
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3dee
Posts: 5576
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I was smashing over 5mbps on the train on my iPhone the other day on the SpeedTest app. |
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| #224 08:57pm 04/08/10 |
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jmr
Posts: 6821
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So yeah 3 hours Billy :)
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| #225 09:03pm 04/08/10 |
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jmr
Posts: 6822
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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s*** I just hit 2mbit up !
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| #226 09:06pm 04/08/10 |
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Mr.Bumpy
Posts: 303
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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s*** I just hit 2mbit up ! Whoah, that's faster than my iPrimus Kahuna Plus ADSL2 connection, which maxes out at 512k upload. |
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| #227 10:16pm 04/08/10 |
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iTOM
Posts: 463
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I've seen 500KB/sec Tethered I had my android wifi hotspot on and my mate used his iphone and speedtested at 1200kb/s, optus network! |
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