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thermite
Posts: 4496
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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magic e makes it cayche
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| #40 09:58am 22/03/10 |
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Nathan
Posts: 3372
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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I say 'kaysh' but I'm aware that the correct is 'cash' - if I was in Europe I'd say 'cash' I'm in this boat. Everyone I know says kaysh, though I have previously read online that cash is correct. Googling it more, it seems its not as clear-cut as I thought. |
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| #41 10:54am 22/03/10 |
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thermite
Posts: 4497
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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OK listen to how an american pronounces any word..... vehicle... nuclear... diabetes... I wouldn't really pay attention to what they say.
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| #42 11:11am 22/03/10 |
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Hogfather
Posts: 5531
Location: Cairns, Queensland
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OK listen to how an american pronounces any word..... vehicle... nuclear... diabetes... I wouldn't really pay attention to what they say. And yet you have a Danny Zuko avatar ... |
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| #43 11:15am 22/03/10 |
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greazy
Posts: 3141
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I like how everyone bashes the Americans for their odd pronunciation of words and different spelling yet they can't see that the english language is a warzone of languages and what the American's are doing is simplifying it in a logical way (blonde -> blond etc).
Stop being such ra-tards. |
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| #44 11:32am 22/03/10 |
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Midda
Posts: 4889
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How do Americans say "diabetes?"
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| #45 12:01pm 22/03/10 |
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thermite
Posts: 4498
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If you don't know already, it doesn't matter, it won't make sense to you.
last edited by thermite at 12:38:28 22/Mar/10 |
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| #46 12:38pm 22/03/10 |
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greazy
Posts: 3142
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #47 12:10pm 22/03/10 |
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infi
Posts: 15239
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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kash-ay
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| #48 03:11pm 22/03/10 |
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Gesthemene
Posts: 729
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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cache = "cash" according to the Oxford English Dictionary. However, I normally pronounce it as "caysh" to differentiate between the problem a client was having and what they need to pay me. Cachet is pronounced "cashay" as some people here have indicated. It is a term indicating some form of prestige or a distinguishing mark or seal. |
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| #49 03:33pm 22/03/10 |
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Bonez
Posts: 189
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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System cache is pronounced "Cash" as in cold hard The database behind the company I work for's software is pronounced "Cashay" |
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| #50 04:07pm 22/03/10 |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2990
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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they can't see that the english language is a warzone of languages This is so true. The English language has a pretty twisted past. Imagine Proto-Germanic and Latin had a retarded baby. That retarded baby then got raped by French and gave birth to a whore. That whore then found away to absorb bits language from other languages like a whore who can absorb DNA from the ejaculate it guzzled, and proceeded to guzzle as much as it could. The basis for what we now call English first arrived in England when Anglo-Saxon tribes began settling in England around the time the Roman Empire was declining. During this time, the language absorbed some Latin and some Celtic languages while displacing them. Things were going pretty well for Old English, when the Norman conquest occurred in 1066. With Norman nobility now ruling over England, Old English became marginalised and was only used by commoners. French was used as the language of the court, and Latin was used in the church. The English then went around colonising, trading and invading; absorbing man words as it went. The language also absorbed a lot of Old Norse as a result of Viking attacks and invasions over the years. The heavy presence of Latin and French for so long is the reason why English is so rich in synonyms. For example, look at the words we have for meats. What we call live animal is very different from what we call it as a food stuff, like 'cow' and 'beef'. The low-class worker in the field used the word 'cow' came from, the Norman nobleman in his castle chowed down on some 'beef'. It's also interesting to note with synonyms that words which come from Old English tend to be more 'common', whereas those from French or Latin tend to sound more educated or higher-status. For example, 'fire' is from Old English and is of Germanic origin; flame and conflagration come from French and Latin respectively. The status difference is a result of French and Latin having been high status languages in the past, while Old English was low status. The reason English pronunciation is so retarded is due to the Great Vowel Shift which began about 500 years ago. When I was a cub, I was taught that it was caused by the printing press. The invention of the printing press made printed type far more common and affordable. More people than ever before were able to afford printed material, and more people learned to read. It is thought by some that people started to pronounce words based on how they looked, as their spelling was heavily influenced by French. There would have been other significant factors involved too; such as the adoption of English as the main language of England. With all the high-class people of England now speaking English, they would have done so with a French accent. This accent would have become prestigious, and people would emulate it. As for all the silent letters in words like 't' in listen and 'gh' in bought; it varies. The spellings of a lot of English words were changed to look more French. In the case of the silent 'gh's as in 'sight' or 'bought', the 'gh' used to be pronounced as a glottal throaty sound. This is a pain in the ass to do and this sound did not distinguish these words from existing ones, the sound was gradually phased out. I remember one of my lecturers once saying that when the printing presses were first brought to England, they were all operated by Dutch or German people, and they modified a lot of spellings to look more like the spelling of their own language. They could also make more money, as adding a few letters here and there would allow them to charge more. This may have been a joke though; sounds silly but Dutch people ARE arseholes who would do this. As for our old friend 'cache', it came to English from the French word "cachet", which AFAIK is pronounced like /kęʃeɪ/ (kash-ay). |
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| #51 06:45pm 22/03/10 |
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Gesthemene
Posts: 730
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You forget (or fail to mention) that French (like Italian, Romanian and quite a few others) are Romance Languages. As in, they were derived from Latin. In essence, French originated as badly mispronounced, lower class provincial Latin. |
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| #52 06:58pm 22/03/10 |
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Dodgymon
Posts: 1524
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #53 07:04pm 22/03/10 |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2991
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You forget (or fail to mention) that French (like Italian, Romanian and quite a few others) are Romance Languages. As in, they were derived from Latin. In essence, French originated as badly mispronounced, lower class provincial Latin. This is also true. As the Roman Empire spread, they enforced the use of Latin in their new territories. Language, like genetics, is divergent; so Latin used in Europe diverged and changed to become the wacky Romance languages we know and love today. By 1066, Norman-French and Latin were distinctly different languages. Kudos on knowing that Romanian is a Romance language. Very few people know this and assume it is a Slavic language. |
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| #54 07:19pm 22/03/10 |
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Gesthemene
Posts: 731
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Actually, the Romans didn't enforce it, they were quite happy for the provincials to keep whatever language/dialect they had. However, because it was desirable to emulate them, a lot of the provincial nobles hired tutors to educate their sons in Latin, in order to gain a better standing in the empire. As for knowing that Romanian is a Romance language, I've got a bit of an advantage. I studied Latin for 6 years at school and university :) |
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| #55 07:43pm 22/03/10 |
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skythra
Posts: 2019
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I say 'kaysh' but I'm aware that the correct is 'cash' - if I was in Europe I'd say 'cash'Thats a pretty good summary. I also hate people who say ROOTERS. I don't care. Rou like HOUse. Route, routing. I don't know. It just bugs me. I used to giggle back in highschool when they said "rooter" because i figuted none of them could get laid so it was the only time they could use root in a sentence. |
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| #56 08:17pm 22/03/10 |
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Bonez
Posts: 190
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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I say 'kaysh' but I'm aware that the correct is 'cash' - if I was in Europe I'd say 'cash'Thats a pretty good summary. I also hate people who say ROOTERS. Route, I used to live on Rt 2 (route 2 pronounced root) but the only reason it was pronounced root was because the goat ropers in the area had no idea about the English language and the only way to communicate with them was to speak honky. |
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| #57 09:29pm 22/03/10 |
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Insom
Posts: 3318
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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not sure if this was a troll but it's 'cash', it's pronounced like the french
'caysh' is strictly by bogans, for bogans as for route the deal seems to be 'rowt' for networking and 'root' for any other use including roads (again, french) |
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| #58 12:38am 23/03/10 |
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skythra
Posts: 2021
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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a had no idea about the English language and the only way to communicate with them was to speak honky.Shut up, you're named after a TV show. 'caysh' is strictly by bogans, for bogansShut up, you're a name which doesn't even have the full word. |
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| #59 06:16am 23/03/10 |
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Thimes
Posts: 3759
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Char-kei, roll that rrrrrrrrr |
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| #60 07:19am 23/03/10 |
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skythra
Posts: 2031
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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router != rooter just fyiwait s***, hold on, why? My lecturer has been talking about a physical hardware peice which is connected by data transmission cables which takes input data and sends it to another data transmission cable. Can you explain if that is a rooter (like my lecturer calls it) or a router like I have been calling it since before i knew what a packet was? |
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| #61 08:48am 23/03/10 |
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Insom
Posts: 3319
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Shut up, you're a name which doesn't even have the full word. oh snap |
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| #62 09:14am 23/03/10 |
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Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2992
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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According to Wiki, "rooter" is Aussie/UK pronunciation, the other way is American. The American pronunciation sounds better, that's what I use.
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| #63 09:34am 23/03/10 |
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skythra
Posts: 2036
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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oh snapdon't get too cocky, i used that call because i had no good comeback. oh wait, thats why you ironically said.. |
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| #64 10:09am 23/03/10 |
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