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Topic: Tom Cruise on Scientology
paveway
Posts: 7000
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahahaha typo, thats f***ing awesome

bonus points for trog, whenever someone mentions the pope i think of the emperor
Saint
Cainer
Posts: 1960
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think it's a shame, because it seems to be more the people's reaction to the video, more than the video itself. Like I said in my first few comments, he doesn't seem any more wacked out than stupid religious people at church services.

I would disagree with that - and I'm not sure how you even know what stupid religious people at church services look like if you aren't religious and would never attend normal regular church services yourself.
infi
Posts: 7814
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Da Vincia Load was awesome.
B.Hardball
Posts: 7460
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I would disagree with that - and I'm not sure how you even know what stupid religious people at church services look like if you aren't religious and would never attend normal regular church services yourself.

Well in my other post I mentioned specifically those scenes where there's lots of carrying on and people are passing out and stuff... couldn't find anything on youtube though:/
Saint
Cainer
Posts: 1964
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Oh, didn't realise you meant those ones specifically .. I thought you meant any church service heh.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 13739
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
you're thinking evangelistic churches then.

church of christ, etc

Idol
Posts: 1729
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've seen people carrying on and crying and s*** in a normal church, creeped me the f*** out!!
typo
Posts: 5917
Location: Other International
I think it's a shame, because it seems to be more the people's reaction to the video, more than the video itself. Like I said in my first few comments, he doesn't seem any more wacked out than stupid religious people at church services.




hahahaha typo, thats f***ing awesome


No problems :)

I would disagree with that - and I'm not sure how you even know what stupid religious people at church services look like if you aren't religious and would never attend normal regular church services yourself.


Some of us have chosen to renounce our religion because it's f***ing stupid.

Child brainwashed into religion -> observes the stupidity of religion -> learns about science -> crisis of faith -> renounces religion.
Scooter
Posts: 1192
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I went to 'Church' (Sunday School) till I was 12, and Church till I was 14 and Boys Brigade (Think Scouts) till I was 17.

No-one (well maybe 1) are as Crazy as Tom Cruze.

I went because Mum did and I've actually read (a few versions of) the Bible through a few times over. It's a pretty interesting book. It's also fun when you meet churchies at a party, they say something stupid and you can correct them 1, because they're stupid and chances are whatever they're saying isn't real and 2. You can say where in the Bible they would be wrong, if it were all real.

/not religious.
//not ever going to go back.
chooney
Posts: 22
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

In case anyone needs a laugh and the other links are down here is a working one of our saviour celeb.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/celebrities/179436.html

I wish someone could fix him with some 9mm brain surgery.
We can only dream.
Taipan
Posts: 2380
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Since this little vid of Tom's hit the street so to speak I have done a s*** load of reading about Scientology. I was pretty blown away by Tom arogance in places and what seemed to be a pretty weak grip on reality. Of course this is only my opinion and in the wash up that won't really count for much.

I watched a number of video's covering all kinds of crap from interviews to outright harassment of critics of the COS. I was amazed that they can actually get away with the s*** they do. They seem to be to be totaly unhinged when it comes to people questionign their beliefs and casting dispersions on their cult.

I know it's not much and it may seem like over reacting to some people. But from here on out I will never knowingly buy, copy, rent or even recomend anything that has a scientologist in it. Call it my own personal little boycott but I am sure as hell not going to put my cash into the hands of these people.

Now there are peobably a dozen things out there I could find more reasonable reasons to boycott before this. However the COS thing has really struck a nerve with me, why you ask? Well I am not entirely sure.

This of course means no more Simpsons for me as Nancy Cartwright (the voice of Bart) is one and no more listening to Kate Ceberano (no great loss) as she is one aswell.

Anyway I know it might seem silly and over the top to some of you but f*** it they totaly diggust me.
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3255
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No more Travolta movies for you then...

But is that such a bad thing?

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2708/revisedov4.jpg
Taipan
Posts: 2381
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
LOL nah I guess not.

Actually a blanket boycott of everything that has some connection to Scientology is going to be pretty damn hard to maintain. For example I just read that James Packer is one so if thats the case how much of Australias media does he have a stake in?

I think I am screwed... I might have to down size the boycott to something more realistic like boycotting the obvious crap.

fpot
Posts: 14972
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
If I become a scientoligist will you stop posting on this forum?

:P
infi
Posts: 7824
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You're annoying, but not that annoying.
Spock
Posts: 671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
although im a christian i can still understand pretty much everyones views. also this is still funny - how could it not be

demon
Posts: 3193
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
scientology gives hax0rz sand in the vagina..



:P
Jim
Posts: 7166
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gawd
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 22445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha demon
parabol
Posts: 3951
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
chooney
Posts: 24
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
It seems the Internet Hate Machine has posted another message. Bit hard to understand with the modified voice.
anonymous replies to CoS
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5768
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
anon are going out pretty hardcore, be interesting to see how serious they are about it and how long they are willing to keep it up.

http://www.lightpostawareness.com/

They are pwning COS websites pretty hard as you can from in the link above, its not just 1 site, they have cained most of them and they have been down for most of if not the entire day.

I am keen to see how this develops as I have seen first hand how scientology can destroy people and ruin families.
Kat
Posts: 9596
Location:
Just wow!

I am sure he is speaking english... but I just don't understand what he is saying

http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress
J
Posts: 182
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't know what the hell he is on about.

If I had to bet, I'd put my money down that Tom Cruise is Bipolar.
His oprah moments, his depression moments, rapid cycling of emotional state occasionally.
He has such loosely associated/tangential sentence structure that makes little sense alot of the time, evidence of thought blocking.. Starts off towards a point, thought blocks and goes off on an incomplete tangent to the start of his sentences and ends it typically with 'you just know... like whatever.. etc. etc.'

He seems pretty elevated and grandiose.

Then again, I also think anybody who believes in Scientology has some underlying problem.
CHUB
Posts: 3869
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Then again, I also think anybody who believes in Scientology religion has some underlying problem.
Fixed.
Bah
Posts: 2696
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He is OT7, he is beyond all your petty "psychological" problems.
chooney
Posts: 25
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
The 11th of Feb
Anonymous has set a date for worldwide IRL protests against the CoS.
Idol
Posts: 1819
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha cool man it's like out of a mid 90's hacker movie
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5770
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKQ75F0XsA

Honk if you hate scientology for the lol

Was a fairly successful raid from the looks of it.


Also another example of why not to f*** with anon.
http://www.regimeorder.com/

last edited by rubba-chikin at 16:55:42 28/Jan/08
imitation
Posts: 2676
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I hope this anon thing takes off, i'm considering turning up at the Brisbane one (hasn't been mentioned there is one but all the other state capitals are, so I assume?) just to see what it's like. Certainly could gather momentum, but then unlikely to be bigger than Chocolate Rain...
chooney
Posts: 26
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
but then unlikely to be bigger than Chocolate Rain...

Some stay dry while others feel the pain.

Sorry couldn't help my self.
B.Hardball
Posts: 7503
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'd rather they took down Christianity first.
chooney
Posts: 27
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I'd rather they took down Christianity first.

With well over 2000yrs of brainwashing the masses even anon could not accomplish that with DDoS and protests. But its the thought that counts. Religion had its time in the past to control the masses but today it seems to hinder our progress as a united global race. Humanity is destined to fail if the average Joe Blo can't get a grip of his or her own life without needing to grasp at fictional characters to complete oneself or find meaning in their own lives.
Had a good quote from Manly P. Hall on religion but can't remember what book it was in. Something about religion being ok if it furthers development without f***ing with others s***. Too many public holiday beers.
natslovR
Posts: 5601
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
Hopefully this kerfuffle with scientology can help western democracies come to terms with what makes a religion, what makes it deserving of special treatment under our laws, and adjust laws to ensure that organisations or even individual fanatics can not abuse the legal system to take advantage of our tollerant societies.

There's been some interesting stuff going on in Canada at the moment, with complaints to the Alberta Human Rights commission. Check out the writeup as well as the interrogation of Ezra Levant here. Here's his awesome opening statement:



last edited by natslovR at 22:47:02 28/Jan/08
infi
Posts: 7882
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he thinks he pretty badass.
ama
Posts: 1
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
A video was leaked of Tom Cruise speaking about scientology. He comes across as totally crazy, ranting and raving about all sorts of nonsense.

Scientology get pissed and sic their lawyers onto sites which are hosting the video. Of course this never will work because for every video taken down, someone else will upload it somewhere else.

Scientology angers communities of people on the internet because we see it as damaging free speech.

That was the straw that broke the camel's back - so to speak

Here is some of the s*** that scientology has pulled in the past:
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
They have infiltrated their members into high ranking government positions and intelligence organisations. They use overwhelming legal power to silence anybody who opposes them. They use their contacts in government to get tax free status for their "religion" - although several European countries have denied their status, saying that they are a money-making organisation and not a valid church, religion or charity. The founder of scientology, L R Hubbard, even admitted - "if you want to make money - start a religion." He was sent to jail for 4 years found guilty of fraud.. he had stolen over $200 MILLION from the church.

Here is how they treat their critics:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81853779690652
This BBC reporter wants to find out more about scientology. A guy with his own camera crew turns up at the reporters hotel at midnight - even though he told nobody where he was staying. They send several people to follow him and film him 24/7 and everywhere he goes there are cars with blacked out windows following him. They also have intelligence files on their critics including personal information about their critics. Their (ex) leader, Ron Hubbard called this the "Fair Game" policy - google it for more info!

A few more examples of how scientology treat their critics/protestors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou82SuPR03o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xn7cNdtqwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EYS7SpFTEI

This is a REALLY good one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w9b_1Wpd7RU
Guy is filming through a fence
Scientology guy CREEPS up right behind him
Guy finished filming and steps back
Scientology guy then starts saying that he "aggressively barged into me"
Scientology guy calls police
Scientology guy complains about "chest pain" from the bumping
These people are actually TRAINED in how to intimidate you and incite you to get mad at them:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/critique.html

There are several forums and websites dedicated to ex-scientologists who have left the church. They are often followed, intimidated, threatened legally, framed for crimes etc. If they were born into the religion, they are usually cut off from the rest of their family.

We believe scientology is an evil, for-profit cult which likes to hide behind a "religious" banner. Several countries such as Germany, oppose scientology and agree with us that it is a profit-making organisation and nothing more. The church follows a strict hierarchy and to go from being a newly recruited scientologist to a higher-ranking member COSTS hundreds of thousands of dollars. Their reading materials cost around $300 each and CDs of their founder speaking are sold for $900. It is only when you get higher up in the church you are allowed to find out their "secrets" - such as Lord Xenu, the aliens, spaceships, volcanoes etc.. it's all a bit crazy!

A church would give you a bible for free
A mosque would give you a koran for free
No proper religion would CHARGE YOU MONEY for you to find out more about them. You could talk to a priest about anything, ask any questions you want and they will answer. If you ask a scientologist about their beliefs, they will deny it, then start to intimidate you, take your photo and put you on a watch list.

If you want to help, have a look at:
http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology

On February 10th, there are co-ordinated raids happening at almost every scientology centre in the world. Let me know where you're at and I'll find a raid close to you - or you can look it up yourself in the link above.

We are trying to raise awareness and change the public perception of scientology. Many people just think it's a harmless, wacky religion that the celebrities have made trendy. However, they don't realise the dark secrets and tactics used by the church to silence their critics.

One really important thing you can do it WRITE TO YOUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE. A letter or a phone call says a LOT. If enough people call up - something has to happen.

There are loads of posters and promotional materials on the site above (partyvan.info) - print em out, put them in public places. Start a chain email. Let your friends know. Send them links to the youtube videos. The more people you inform, the better!

That should help clear things up
infi
Posts: 7891
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
google vid is borked.
Idol
Posts: 1828
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah a few of those links don't work anymore!

On February 10th, there are co-ordinated raids happening at almost every scientology centre in the world. Let me know where you're at and I'll find a raid close to you - or you can look it up yourself in the link above.


Is there a raid happening at this place? link doesn't work

http://www.scientology-brisbane.org/
100 Brunswick St.
Fortitude Valley, Queensland 4006

I go past it sometimes.
ama
Posts: 2
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hope so
Taipan
Posts: 2398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Good post ama

I have spent a huge amount of time watching video's and reading over the past couple of weeks on the COS or as I call it the Cult of Scientology. These guys are rabid dogs when it comes to stamping out any form of criticism. The legnths they will go to is amazing and I honestly believe if they had the chance they would just knock people off ala Stalin or Nazi style.

Now as much as I would like to see this cult get a good kick in the ass. I have a real problem with us the general public doing what we accuse them of. We shouldn't be shutting down their wedsites with DOS attacks thus removing their right to free speech. What we should be doing is raising awareness so people understand the COS better.

In all honesty from everything I have viewed in video's the COS is their own worst enemy. The tactics they smploy to harass critics is so insanely over the top any normal person could help but see them as a pack of nuts.
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5773
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yes there is a brisraid happening.

The current anon hosting is either getting attacked or the hosting has refused to let them reside there. I presume they will relocate pretty soon.

I do have the bris info tho, PM me if you want it.
infi
Posts: 7893
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's just like one nation, by giving them all this free publicity you are giving them oxygen to expand.

Ignore the silly c***s imo.
Idol
Posts: 1830
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yup ok sunday feb 10 if there's one, I will go along.

Or if I don't I might order some pizza to there at the right time.

PS the next post will be from a scientologist ...

last edited by Idol at 17:06:07 29/Jan/08
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 22492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
In conclusion, the end.
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